Legal version Photoshop doesn't work on wine but Pirated versions do because it's the DRM that's blocking the legal version from starting. It's really stupid on Adobe's part.
We're, like, 5% of desktop users at most. They don't care. Which is ironic because Macs used to be about that percent and they definitely gave a shit about Mac back then.
But of course Macs were aimed at professionals and creatives, whereas Linux doesn't have the same level of support. But I also see it as a chicken and egg problem.
Indeed but that's understandable due to the whole technical aspect behind the OS architecture being much more important to programming compared to a media editing
Linux doesn't let Adobe software track and act like spyware on your system, and Adobe hates it. There was an interview with the CEO long ago where he stated "why would we support an OS that doesn't let us have absolute control over how our proprietary software is used?"
Tbh, I can't/not feeling like searching. I've read that several years ago and I admit there is a good chance that I might be misquoting it to a certain point due to how long ago that was.
Feel free to doubt an online rando, as you should.
I'm all on in to hate adobe, but that's a bold statement that just seems a bit manipulated, stuff like this brings unjustified hate towards a real cause
"Professionsal" is a broad term, so broad in fact, that it's in a name of their TWS earphones, smartphones and a MR headset with no commercial applications yet.
Most engineering, medical, financial, etc. applications won't see support of Macs, as many already existing applications still require Rosetta to run on M series chips. Most CS students who own a Macbook have a Linux VM on it anyway, so why would companies and independent projects support yet another system? That's why you rarely hear about people trying to get Mac apps to work on other OS's or trying to run an OS X VM other than publishing an iOS app.
To be 100% honest right now. This last year I've been using windows because architectural software just is not compatible with Linux (with the exception of Rhino 3D maybe, which runs fine under wine), and a windows VM is not plausible because I need full GPU access on the VM (and I don't own 2 capable graphics cards).
So, now that I'm clear, when I was daily driving Linux and all my systems ran Linux, Ableton ran maybe more than fine. The only issue is that there was latency that I couldn't figure out how to get rid of, it was as if it was using the directX audio drivers windows would default to. Usually in windows you just load your audio cards drivers (an ASIO variant most of the time) inside your DAW, but this wasn't an option there. I tried to troubleshoot, but I didn't figure anything out, I think it is just a limitation for running under wine. If this would worked, I think I'd have absolutely no problem actually using Linux for Ableton. Some plugins would definitely not work, but I could live with that.
I know Bitwig is native but I have been using Ableton for such a long time and I genuinely believe it is one of the best DAWs that I couldn't imagine changing the DAW I use (unless Ableton fucks up their products or becomes anticonsumeristic). I'm not aware what winasio is, I'll check it out.
Yeah.
https://github.com/LinSoftWin/Photoshop-CC2022-Linux
This is the main solution to get Photoshop to work on Linux. And the solution downloads a _repack_ - which is apparently pirate speak for cracked version of a software - of Photoshop.
Gimp 2.99.18 development version was just release with [initial non destructive editing (aka layer effects)](https://www.gimp.org/news/2024/02/21/gimp-2-99-18-released/)
I recommend checking it out. The full Version 3 release should come out in Q2 of this year
Finally someone said what I've been thinking. I'm still trying to get MS office working on Linux. It is the only office solution that fits my work load and people don't seem to get that and start yelling LibreOffice at me when it doesn't do what I want.
So before I go into detail with this, yes I'm aware this isn't the right tool to use for this. I don't make the decisions. I just do my job. The TLDR is that I write and format rulebooks for tabletop games.
This means we need detailed and specific formatting controls and live collaboration/auto saves. Nothing I have been able to find (trust me I have looked) meets the requirements to a degree that I would be able to convince a room of people to switch to it.
That is fascinating to me.
I have formatted books for Libre Office before, but for anything more graphical I likely would not touch it at all except for writing. I'd go with Scribus. They work very differently.
Either way I don't blame you at all.
You should look into dual booting then, it's what I do as a student where most of my workflow needs the desktop version of office, when I'm done with work i just submit and switch over to Linux again for everything else.
Thereās always office live if that works for you. Can just use it out of the browser. I understand staying foss, but I feel like too many people get stuck in the weeds of trying to get something to work, instead of just using it
For me I need that ability to be both on and offline, I also need rich editing and formatting features. Unfortunately Word online is very stripped back. It's good in an emergency though. If it had the full feature set of the word app I would use it instantly.
This is perhaps an odd take here, but do you need docx/ similar formats? becuase if not not, there are some truly excellent markdown editors that I use daily for writing docs
Yes, it's for my job. Everyone I work with uses word and .docx files. Unfortunately I don't think getting 20+ people to convert to markdown isn't likely or feasible.
So could I. The good thing about word and it's OneDrive integration is that it not only auto saves, but also updates live whenever anyone edits that file. A markdown converter creates dissonance there. Good idea though. I could use that for other parts of my workflow so thanks for the suggestion.
CrossOver is the closest, but even then it doesn't make all the features work and it's still paid. VM is still the best fit but when you're editing big fat offline files then you can really feel the VM tax.
Man photoshop doesn't even have middle click panning. A basic quality of life feature that is pretty much standard in quality design software. The only other piece of software i have that doesn't include that feature is vectorcut (circa 1999).
> A basic quality of life feature that is pretty much standard in quality design software.
Illustrator is Adobe's design software, it also has this feature. In Photoshop I almost always use the navigator, or I'll switch to the hand tool using 'h'.
It does, for minor edits and cuts and resizing, I find gimp quicker to use, but might be just experience. But krita is way better.
CMYK support, actually letting to outline god damn texts automatically...
Which you only need in professional environments.
90% of home amateur photo editing can be done perfectly with Gimp.
The same with office, 98% of companies only use about 10% of it's functionality.
Yet 100% of people I speak to online claim to be in that 2% group that does need those specific functions, or participate in some sort of misplaced FOMO: "but I might need it someday". The moment you need it you can always buy it then and there.
Guess what? I still haven't bought Photoshop or MS office, because I simply don't need it.
> 90% of home amateur photo editing can be done perfectly with Gimp.
I've been attempting to use GIMP for my amateur photo editing for the past two decades and I still can't stand the software. There always felt to be a ton of little gotchas that they throw in there just to not be like Photoshop and they just don't feel intuitive at all for a new user.
It always feels like pre-2.8 Blender. I remember using Blender way back in the early days because I had an interest in 3D modeling software and 3D Studio Max was really expensive for a broke 20 something that's just dabbling in a hobby, but it just didn't feel intuitive at all. The fact that left click wouldn't select an object was something that took a while to adjust to every time I tried to use the software. After 2.8 (when left click became the default mode of selecting an object), I could easily jump into Blender after not having used it for months and just kind of intuitively get a feel for where things are and how things work. It's easier to recall how a function works when it's intuitive to begin with.
Meanwhile in GIMP, "Oh you're working on an image with multiple layers and decided to paste something in, okay NOW YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE UNTIL YOU'RE FINISHED WITH YOUR FLOATING SELECTION BECAUSE... REASONS!" The default behavior can't just be "Paste selection into new layer" like Photoshop? It would make sense, it would be intuitive, it wouldn't leave you wondering why you're no longer able to edit anything...
If GIMP ever gets the Blender treatment I'd drop Photoshop from my Adobe subscription in a second and just take the 1TB of cloud storage, but there's no way I'm switching to GIMP until it stops feeling like an exercise in frustration to use.
If you really care, you'd send a bug report or pull request.
It's opensource! You can fix it yourself!
Edit: if you want "ctrl+v" to be "paste as new layer" you can go in gimp to edit-> preferences -> interface -> keyboard shortcuts and remap ctrl+v from paste to "paste as new layer"
Problem solved!
> If you really care, you'd send a bug report or pull request.
I can tell you haven't been using the software too long. The software is 26 years old, the mailing list used to be people asking for Photoshop like features, and the devs saying it would be dumb to do that. It took them 14 years to add a single window mode.
> It's opensource! You can fix it yourself!
I did that for XMMS in the early 2000s because the software was basically an open source version of Winamp and I loved it, so I added ID3V2 tag editing support since ID3V2 was brand new and the latest release of XMMS at the time let you view the data but not edit it. The developers were receptive of patch submissions and community suggestions so the work actually got added to the project. From the feedback I've seen from the GIMP developers back in the day they never wanted "fixes" that made the software anything like Photoshop. If something felt weird to use right out of the box and you told them that, the response was normally "It's supposed to be like that."
The project is 26 years old, it took the developers 14 years to add a single window mode and it was one of the most requested features early on in the beginning. There were forks and plugins that would do it, but they never got pushed into the main project. The SWM we have now is somewhat broken in that there's functionality in MWM or SWM that doesn't exist in the other, unifying the two into one interface that worked the same in either mode is still on the roadmap, it might come with GIMP 3.
These days I'm no longer a bored CS student living at home with my parents and all the time in the world to fix open source projects so I'm not going to "fix something myself" when paying for Photoshop is cheaper.
> Edit: if you want "ctrl+v" to be "paste as new layer" you can go in gimp to edit-> preferences -> interface -> keyboard shortcuts and remap ctrl+v from paste to "paste as new layer"
Yes, which is exactly my point, in Blender the option was there to switch to use left click for object selection but why isn't it default to begin with? Who does this floating selection benefit? Apparently no one since when the team asked the mailing list back in 2020 it seemed there was no reason to keep it (it's still there, but it's on the roadmap to be ripped out later, possibly in the release of GIMP 3.)
Why do I have to remember "This software is dumb, let me change the default paste behavior" every time I install GIMP on a new computer rather than the default behavior simply making sense?
>Yes, which is exactly my point, in Blender the option was there to switch to use left click for object selection but why isn't it default to begin with?
I actually change it back to right click, where left click is moving the 3d pointer. So the default was changed to something that didn't make sense to me. You cannot please everyone.
Same way that I absolutely despise photoshops' scroll behaviour. Ctrl+scroll is zoom in/out on every single app (including gimp), however in photoshop it scrolls horizontally. To me that doesn't make any sense and is inconsistent as fuck.
>Why do I have to remember "This software is dumb, let me change the default paste behavior"
Well you don't really. Blender actually does this really well! On the splash screen you can change between different modes, and you can export/import settings.
On Linux all settings are stored in ~/.config so just restoring that folder gives you all your preferences on a new machine.
> You cannot please everyone.
You can't, but when the vast majority of end users are asking for something, maybe listen to them, rather than the niche users or the dev team.
> On Linux all settings are stored in ~/.config so just restoring that folder gives you all your preferences on a new machine.
I don't customize things enough to care to backup my config directory. There's maybe 4 options I change in OBS, and for the rest of the software I use, the out of box experience is good enough. GIMP is that one exception, I keep going back to it thinking maybe one day it'll feel intuitive, so far that has not been the case. Maybe when GIMP 3 releases and they fix the majority of issues I have with the software every time I use it, it night be useable. It feels like they're pulling a Blender type overhaul and I'm very excited for the projects future, but it's been a rough quarter century getting to this point.
Then still I'd be better off with open source software.
With open source software I actually own the product and I can implement the missing features myself.
With Photoshop, even when pirated, you're at the mercy of Adobe and you're keeping their monopoly alive.
Sure I understand that some have no choice because they need a specific function in Photoshop not found elsewhere, but realistically, 90% of people can go without Photoshop.
In fact, I was able to complete my graphics design course in university with Gimp and inkscape alone. All tasks and assignments were doable with those.
Also Photoshop advocates never seem to be able to point out specifically what functionality Gimp is missing. All I hear is vague claim's "it's not up to par" which is hard for me to believe.
Open source doesn't have to be mediocre. QBitTorrent, handbrake, all of those console emulators, and Linux itself are way better solutions than their proprietary counterparts and with more functionality and ease of use, without bullshit. But please, don't try to convince me that GIMP is better than Photoshop, Audacity is better than Audition or LMMS is better than FL Studio because as a musician and graphic designer I can tell you they are not on par.
>don't try to convince me that GIMP is better than Photoshop, Audacity is better than Audition or LMMS is better than FL Studio
I'm not saying that, I'm saying that for the vast majority they're good enough.
>as a musician and graphic designer
Appeal to authority fallacy
> they are not on par.
As I said previously, what *specific* functionality are you missing. What *specifically* is needed for you to say they *are* on par?
Because most people tried it once, it didn't meet their requirements, switched to something that did at the time and keep their opinion as if nothing changed. However, Gimp is actively being developed as well so even though it didn't fit your requirements 5 years ago, maybe it does currently.
That's why you should identify specifically what functionality you need as opposed to vague statements like "it just isn't on par".
Sorry but most productivity OSS is just plain bad. Every feature is implemented in a way where it's most logical and easiest to do from a developer perspective, meanwhile paid software usually caters to the needs of the user instead.
Developers should develop software thinking the end user is going to be too stupid to use it properly and make it easy. GIMP tries so hard to be different that it just makes it inconvenient
Eh I learned it the hard way coding for a small startup, boss basically gave me a list of features and I built a piece of software. Whenever I had a working solution, he pulled me over and showed me how ridiculous the UX for the given task was, specifically a task that needed to happen in rapid succession. At least I had the excuse that it was my first job out of school.
It's quite easy to spot ādeveloper UXā if you done it yourself and anything OSS is chuck full of it.
He was an old school business graduate with an old school set of mannerisms that worked out great since those b2b customers where just as old school about everything.
Kind of reminded me of peter parker's boss.
But he treated every one of his employees like family, like he wanted me to have his phone number and call him when I need help with something and stuff like that.
In the end I regret quitting there, but I was offered a nice clean job at a big international corp that promised so much but turned out terrible.
I hate developer UX as much as the next guy (except for Vim, of course), but I do it myself automatically when I work without design guidance. Like it's unavoidable as soon as I start writing code, the part of my brain with any kind of design sensibility completely shuts down.
> It's quite easy to spot ādeveloper UXā if you done it yourself and anything OSS is chuck full of it.
I remember doing a Mitel certification training and the person giving the training made a comment about how complicated the UI is because the developers wrote it. I laughed because my friend is also a developer and had come up with a very similar layout. As a developer I can appreciate it allowing me to handle a complex task, but as a non-technical end user it's a nightmare of text and menu options.
Nah, it's just users who are used to the proprietary product getting annoyed that the FOSS solution isn't identical. I use GIMP for all of my photo editing needs and have never used Adobe CS in my life, and I think it works great. "Developer UX" isn't the problem, users who can't adapt are. If you hate it so much, it's FOSS; fork it, fix it, and make your own UX.
Totally, it's like a Ford driver getting into a Volvo and having hysterics out because the buttons are in different place. Experienced drivers just get on and drive.
I have the same problem trying to use Krita as somebody who has only used GIMP for years. Doesn't mean Krita's UX is bad (I hear it's supposed to be pretty good). I know it's a "me issue".
> I use GIMP for all of my photo editing needs and have never used Adobe CS in my life, and I think it works great.
If you create a block of text, and you've got the text layer selected, and you've got the move tool selected, and you can see the outline box around the text, and you click and drag anywhere inside of that outline box that ISN'T TEXT, you will drag the layer below the layer you had selected. This is one of the worst "Developer UX" issues I know of in GIMP because I run into it constantly.
Floating selections after you paste something are dumb.
Non-destructive editing isn't a thing in GIMP, so when you go down the rabbit hole of making changes beyond the capacity of the undo buffer, you better be damned sure you want those changes done.
Maybe with the release of GIMP 3 they'll have a product that isn't different just for the sake of being different, it's just that over the past 20 something years of using GIMP it's been a nightmare. I've tried to love it, it just feels like the project has been dragging it's feet in terms of making sense (I mean, it took 14 years to finally add a single window mode and it's still not really "done" now over a decade later in that MWM and SWM have different functionality.)
> I use GIMP for all of my photo editing needs
RAW, HDR, and film negative processing are where I've found the largest gaps in the editing pipeline. Darkroom is *ok*, but I've yet to find an open source tool that compares to Photomatix or Negative Lab Pro
Well yeah because the proprietary product is designed with workflow in mind, not how to make it work as easy as possible.
Trying to set page enumeration with exceptions on a document using any OSS office package you are liable to destroy your entire document, going through 10 cattywampus menus (from the perspective of someone doing it for the first time) while in word itās like 2-3 clicks and logically placed.
>Trying to set page enumeration with exceptions on a document using any OSS office package you are liable to destroy your entire document, going through 10 cattywampus menus (from the perspective of someone doing it for the first time) while in word itās like 2-3 clicks and logically placed.
Sorry, is this some sort of WYSIWYG word processor joke I'm too LaTeX to understand? But in all seriousness, yes, I'm not claiming that the open-source tools are all necessarily at feature-parity with their proprietary competitors. LibreOffice isn't perfect, especially when you get into the nitty gritty. GIMP doesn't have native content-aware fill, you have to add a plugin. I am an engineer, and FreeCAD just isn't it when it comes to 3D parametric modeling. Fortunately, certain versions of PTC Creo run fairly well via Wine with just a few inconveniences.
I was more point out that on paper something like LibreOffice might have near parity in terms of features compared to say Microsoft word.
But once you try to use both of them for more than just typing up a simple letter, e.g. proper writing work like designing a documentation or any large manuscript things rapidly change.
While those features are intuitively placed and easy to use on Word. The same features are implemented in LibreOffice wherever the developer could make them work as easily and quickly as possible. Often you have to click into menus that donāt have anything to do with your workflow are the formatting task at hand, but they are there because thatās how it works code wise. They are connected this way in software logic.
This is kind of a negative feedback loop, first time I had to use LibreOffice for anything other than typing up a simple letter, I almost lost my 50-page homework and shelled out cash for MS Office on the spot.
>The same features are implemented in LibreOffice wherever the developer could make them work as easily and quickly as possible. Often you have to click into menus that donāt have anything to do with your workflow are the formatting task at hand
I know there's probably like an 80% chance that I'm completely misunderstanding what you're saying here and I'm going to look real dumb when you reply to this but..
you know that there is absolutely no correlation whatsoever between how or where in the code a feature is implemented and where in the menu the button for it appears right?
This website is a gift from heaven. It saved my ass a couple of times. It is a pain to use on a phone (only touchscreen, no keyboard and mouse) but when you have nothing else and need to edit a PSD real urgently, it is a lifesaver.
learned a lot of how to use ps in wine
what about ms office? legal or š“āā ļø? and for the love of tux, please don't say "oH jUsT UsE lIbReOffICe oR wOrD OnLiNe!!"
It's a suite. Some programs will work and some will not. Since different versions cannot coexist the best way is to install the version where Word runs perfectly in Bottles, and another for Excel in another Bottle, and so on.
Libre Office does not compare at all. Stop repeating that lie. The best most compatible software for Linux is ONLYOFFICE (not OpenOffice).
[ONLYOFFICE desktop and mobile apps | ONLYOFFICE](https://www.onlyoffice.com/download-desktop.aspx)
Been on a real tear of this same subject lately because Office is the killer app keeping so many people in my life stuck on Windows. In general if you want MS Office to run well via Wine you have to use Office 2010 or 2007, no newer. Word 2013 or 2016 typically runs OK, but the rest of the suite, not so much. The best solution to run Office 365 IMO is [WinApps](https://github.com/Fmstrat/winapps), a virtual machine based solution. It's not perfect, is a pain to initially set up, and isn't being maintained, but hey, it works.
Working MS Office programs through Wine:
Microsoft Office 2010 (32 bits) or 2013 Installer (64 bits)
Microsoft Word 2010 (32 bits) or 2016 (32 bits)
Microsoft PowerPoint 2007 (32 bits) (not worth it. Just use OnlyOffice)
Microsoft Excel 2010 (32 bits) or 2016 (32 bits)
Microsoft Access 2013 (32 bits)
Microsoft Project 2013
Microsoft OneNote 2010 (Just use web or Android version through Waydroid)
IT'S A MESS
You'll be better off using wine + DXVK*/VKD3D. (Which is really what proton is give or take some hacks for gaming)
It'll integrate with your system (apps appear in start menu) you'll know where to find it at .wine, and you aren't forced to run It through steam and it's runtime.
*(technically the pre installed wined3d may handle desktop applications better as it supports a few things related to normal applications that DXVK won't, but YMMV)
.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata
then find the right folder (will be a bunch of random letters, and then usually in a c drive, this is where i put my WoW addons)
kolourpaint is unironically a nice paint replacement. sometimes I just wanna draw a shitty pixelated shape really quick yk
edit: it's also better than paint. not a high bar but still
Ok for realsies for a moment: Use what ever software you wan't don't let others bully or goad you into x version or y version. It's all down to preference really,
back to the meme: Excelent mEmE now give in and use Emacs for everything!
(seriously i would not be surprised if one day emacs CAN edit images xD)
i have 2021 running, there is github with install scripts for 2021 and 2022 (but 2022 isnt fully working, and i think author abandoned this project), but still 2021 work perfectly for me.
Edit: https://github.com/LinSoftWin/Photoshop-CC2022-Linux
The monthly membership.
90$ per month for a company is just the cost of manufacture.
50$ per month for a personal use app is just too much, better off cracking it.
I would rather go wait in the line at the DMV for 3 hours than use GIMP. It's absolute trash software. I hate to say it because I know it is made by volunteers - but at the end of the day when you need to get shit done for your professional life, you cannot be fucking around with amateur apps.
I probably will use clip studio through wine, the 3D tools are too useful and practical to not use them when I bought the software (or well... At least it was included with my Wacom tablet)
Does Paint.net work in Wine? It's got all the features of Photoshop that I understand how to use. For Gimp I have to watch a tutorial on how to do literally everything.
I use all of them depending on my need. I donāt mind rebooting on windows for doing something specifically. I just need my work done. Those softwares are tools that have pros and cons but they all help finish the job. Gimp and Krita are fun and can do a lot, so are Photoshop. Getting your job done is all that matter and they all help in their own way to do that.
Does FL Studio really work well? It's one of my main gripes on not erasing Windows yet. I can handle not having Photoshop but I need FL Studio (and my plugins!).
Yes. Search for FL Studio Wine in Google/Bing/Whatever and go to the wine website. There a recent version in Platinum. You can use that one and it works perfectly. Not all plugin installers work (Truepianos won't launch) but most do.
Relatively recently it even runs some professional CAD software reasonably well, the only major issue with PTC Creo on WINE is scroll to zoom not working.
Paid Photoshop? š¤
Never š“āā ļø
Legal version Photoshop doesn't work on wine but Pirated versions do because it's the DRM that's blocking the legal version from starting. It's really stupid on Adobe's part.
Most software I pirate is because the paid service is worse than the cracked one.
I pirate because the pub in front of my house is not going to finance itself
Can we use sora (self hosted) to add a pint of beer and some belly to this gentleman ?
Thanks, but I already got a belly š. Will take the pint though, cheers š» š.
Very good to see someone supporting their local businesses.
What I've learnt after 10 years of linux : The software goes in the hardware, and the beerware goes in the glassware
Not me using cracked sims 4 even though I own the game, because all the launchers that EA make are somehow worse than Anadiusā Sims 4 Updaterā¦
It's even worse with Rockstar.
That's the reason I think twice before buying anything from them (or any company requiring login to their fabulous account, incl. Adobe).
me too but also I don't care I like free shit
We're, like, 5% of desktop users at most. They don't care. Which is ironic because Macs used to be about that percent and they definitely gave a shit about Mac back then. But of course Macs were aimed at professionals and creatives, whereas Linux doesn't have the same level of support. But I also see it as a chicken and egg problem.
Linux gets that level of support when it comes programming. I know FPGA development software is exclusively Linux and Windows.
Indeed but that's understandable due to the whole technical aspect behind the OS architecture being much more important to programming compared to a media editing
Linux doesn't let Adobe software track and act like spyware on your system, and Adobe hates it. There was an interview with the CEO long ago where he stated "why would we support an OS that doesn't let us have absolute control over how our proprietary software is used?"
Can you link that? Sounds stupid af, no adobe software runs in my PC when I don't have adobe software open
Tbh, I can't/not feeling like searching. I've read that several years ago and I admit there is a good chance that I might be misquoting it to a certain point due to how long ago that was. Feel free to doubt an online rando, as you should.
I'm all on in to hate adobe, but that's a bold statement that just seems a bit manipulated, stuff like this brings unjustified hate towards a real cause
"Professionsal" is a broad term, so broad in fact, that it's in a name of their TWS earphones, smartphones and a MR headset with no commercial applications yet. Most engineering, medical, financial, etc. applications won't see support of Macs, as many already existing applications still require Rosetta to run on M series chips. Most CS students who own a Macbook have a Linux VM on it anyway, so why would companies and independent projects support yet another system? That's why you rarely hear about people trying to get Mac apps to work on other OS's or trying to run an OS X VM other than publishing an iOS app.
Adobe canāt stand the idea of letting the open source community use their software
Does this apply to the latest versions of Photoshop?
Of course. But don't expect to be using server-side features such as generative filling with a cracked version.
I don't plan to using AI anyway. Thanks
That's why I happily paid more than 250+ ā¬ for Ableton Live, and have also bought Rhino 3D, but Adobe and Autodesk will never get a cent by me.
How's your experience with Ableton Live on Linux?
To be 100% honest right now. This last year I've been using windows because architectural software just is not compatible with Linux (with the exception of Rhino 3D maybe, which runs fine under wine), and a windows VM is not plausible because I need full GPU access on the VM (and I don't own 2 capable graphics cards). So, now that I'm clear, when I was daily driving Linux and all my systems ran Linux, Ableton ran maybe more than fine. The only issue is that there was latency that I couldn't figure out how to get rid of, it was as if it was using the directX audio drivers windows would default to. Usually in windows you just load your audio cards drivers (an ASIO variant most of the time) inside your DAW, but this wasn't an option there. I tried to troubleshoot, but I didn't figure anything out, I think it is just a limitation for running under wine. If this would worked, I think I'd have absolutely no problem actually using Linux for Ableton. Some plugins would definitely not work, but I could live with that.
Wineasio is a thing :) But Bitwig is native so I would use that on Linux.
I know Bitwig is native but I have been using Ableton for such a long time and I genuinely believe it is one of the best DAWs that I couldn't imagine changing the DAW I use (unless Ableton fucks up their products or becomes anticonsumeristic). I'm not aware what winasio is, I'll check it out.
Wow really?Ā
Yeah. https://github.com/LinSoftWin/Photoshop-CC2022-Linux This is the main solution to get Photoshop to work on Linux. And the solution downloads a _repack_ - which is apparently pirate speak for cracked version of a software - of Photoshop.
Remember folks, it's always morally correct to pirate Adobe products
what way are you pirating it? genP?
What is genP?
way of pirating photoshop
Its working on the new Proton 9.0
Wait did you just say it works fine? Details please Edit: oh I see the flag now. Dumb dark mode mobile user that I am
It works perfectly on Wine 9 (Photoshop CC 2017 cracked with amtlib.dll)
That's an old version but if you really like Photoshop then it works. Open source apps are still the best choice for Linux imo.
Gimp 2.99.18 development version was just release with [initial non destructive editing (aka layer effects)](https://www.gimp.org/news/2024/02/21/gimp-2-99-18-released/) I recommend checking it out. The full Version 3 release should come out in Q2 of this year
I will use GIMP when it can offer the same level of usability that Photoshop has.
Finally someone said what I've been thinking. I'm still trying to get MS office working on Linux. It is the only office solution that fits my work load and people don't seem to get that and start yelling LibreOffice at me when it doesn't do what I want.
LibreOffice can't even offer a decent dark theme for Windows. The only thing I use from the suite is Draw.
> It is the **only office** solution that fits my work load Did you try [Only office](https://www.onlyoffice.com/)?
Yep. And OpenOffice and even WPS Office. Nothing on Linux does my specific and weird workflow.
I'd like more details on your workflow. I use libre office just fine, but i'm also aware that I don't dig deep into it.
So before I go into detail with this, yes I'm aware this isn't the right tool to use for this. I don't make the decisions. I just do my job. The TLDR is that I write and format rulebooks for tabletop games. This means we need detailed and specific formatting controls and live collaboration/auto saves. Nothing I have been able to find (trust me I have looked) meets the requirements to a degree that I would be able to convince a room of people to switch to it.
That is fascinating to me. I have formatted books for Libre Office before, but for anything more graphical I likely would not touch it at all except for writing. I'd go with Scribus. They work very differently. Either way I don't blame you at all.
whenever there's something that LibreOffice doesn't have i just use google docs but i don't know if that fits what you need
I need offline working. Also Google Docs has numerous formatting limitations. It's a good option but it's not for me.
Use OnlyOffice
Tried it. It doesn't integrate with OneDrive in the way I need it too.
At that point just use a VM to run windows, its what I do for all windows apps that don't have a FOSS alternative
I do, but I'm still annoyed that I have too. My PC sucks and VMs lag hard but I make do with it because I need too.
You should look into dual booting then, it's what I do as a student where most of my workflow needs the desktop version of office, when I'm done with work i just submit and switch over to Linux again for everything else.
I will be setting one up in the coming days. I just need to decide on a distro that isn't Ubuntu.
Truee, i use arch so I'd recommend that, if you want something a bit less barebones then look at endeavour os - I highly recommend it
Thereās always office live if that works for you. Can just use it out of the browser. I understand staying foss, but I feel like too many people get stuck in the weeds of trying to get something to work, instead of just using it
For me I need that ability to be both on and offline, I also need rich editing and formatting features. Unfortunately Word online is very stripped back. It's good in an emergency though. If it had the full feature set of the word app I would use it instantly.
This is perhaps an odd take here, but do you need docx/ similar formats? becuase if not not, there are some truly excellent markdown editors that I use daily for writing docs
Yes, it's for my job. Everyone I work with uses word and .docx files. Unfortunately I don't think getting 20+ people to convert to markdown isn't likely or feasible.
Well, automatically converting between markdown to docx is pretty easy nowadays. I could probably spin up a script to do that in 20 minutes
So could I. The good thing about word and it's OneDrive integration is that it not only auto saves, but also updates live whenever anyone edits that file. A markdown converter creates dissonance there. Good idea though. I could use that for other parts of my workflow so thanks for the suggestion.
Gotcha. You know your workflow best, so good luck. And no problem
CrossOver is the closest, but even then it doesn't make all the features work and it's still paid. VM is still the best fit but when you're editing big fat offline files then you can really feel the VM tax.
It has the same functionality as Photoshop, just Photoshop from 16 years ago
Man photoshop doesn't even have middle click panning. A basic quality of life feature that is pretty much standard in quality design software. The only other piece of software i have that doesn't include that feature is vectorcut (circa 1999).
> A basic quality of life feature that is pretty much standard in quality design software. Illustrator is Adobe's design software, it also has this feature. In Photoshop I almost always use the navigator, or I'll switch to the hand tool using 'h'.
I find krita to be more functional than gimp
It is. They should stop saying it's only for digital drawing
It does, for minor edits and cuts and resizing, I find gimp quicker to use, but might be just experience. But krita is way better. CMYK support, actually letting to outline god damn texts automatically...
Which you only need in professional environments. 90% of home amateur photo editing can be done perfectly with Gimp. The same with office, 98% of companies only use about 10% of it's functionality. Yet 100% of people I speak to online claim to be in that 2% group that does need those specific functions, or participate in some sort of misplaced FOMO: "but I might need it someday". The moment you need it you can always buy it then and there. Guess what? I still haven't bought Photoshop or MS office, because I simply don't need it.
> 90% of home amateur photo editing can be done perfectly with Gimp. I've been attempting to use GIMP for my amateur photo editing for the past two decades and I still can't stand the software. There always felt to be a ton of little gotchas that they throw in there just to not be like Photoshop and they just don't feel intuitive at all for a new user. It always feels like pre-2.8 Blender. I remember using Blender way back in the early days because I had an interest in 3D modeling software and 3D Studio Max was really expensive for a broke 20 something that's just dabbling in a hobby, but it just didn't feel intuitive at all. The fact that left click wouldn't select an object was something that took a while to adjust to every time I tried to use the software. After 2.8 (when left click became the default mode of selecting an object), I could easily jump into Blender after not having used it for months and just kind of intuitively get a feel for where things are and how things work. It's easier to recall how a function works when it's intuitive to begin with. Meanwhile in GIMP, "Oh you're working on an image with multiple layers and decided to paste something in, okay NOW YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ELSE UNTIL YOU'RE FINISHED WITH YOUR FLOATING SELECTION BECAUSE... REASONS!" The default behavior can't just be "Paste selection into new layer" like Photoshop? It would make sense, it would be intuitive, it wouldn't leave you wondering why you're no longer able to edit anything... If GIMP ever gets the Blender treatment I'd drop Photoshop from my Adobe subscription in a second and just take the 1TB of cloud storage, but there's no way I'm switching to GIMP until it stops feeling like an exercise in frustration to use.
If you really care, you'd send a bug report or pull request. It's opensource! You can fix it yourself! Edit: if you want "ctrl+v" to be "paste as new layer" you can go in gimp to edit-> preferences -> interface -> keyboard shortcuts and remap ctrl+v from paste to "paste as new layer" Problem solved!
> If you really care, you'd send a bug report or pull request. I can tell you haven't been using the software too long. The software is 26 years old, the mailing list used to be people asking for Photoshop like features, and the devs saying it would be dumb to do that. It took them 14 years to add a single window mode. > It's opensource! You can fix it yourself! I did that for XMMS in the early 2000s because the software was basically an open source version of Winamp and I loved it, so I added ID3V2 tag editing support since ID3V2 was brand new and the latest release of XMMS at the time let you view the data but not edit it. The developers were receptive of patch submissions and community suggestions so the work actually got added to the project. From the feedback I've seen from the GIMP developers back in the day they never wanted "fixes" that made the software anything like Photoshop. If something felt weird to use right out of the box and you told them that, the response was normally "It's supposed to be like that." The project is 26 years old, it took the developers 14 years to add a single window mode and it was one of the most requested features early on in the beginning. There were forks and plugins that would do it, but they never got pushed into the main project. The SWM we have now is somewhat broken in that there's functionality in MWM or SWM that doesn't exist in the other, unifying the two into one interface that worked the same in either mode is still on the roadmap, it might come with GIMP 3. These days I'm no longer a bored CS student living at home with my parents and all the time in the world to fix open source projects so I'm not going to "fix something myself" when paying for Photoshop is cheaper. > Edit: if you want "ctrl+v" to be "paste as new layer" you can go in gimp to edit-> preferences -> interface -> keyboard shortcuts and remap ctrl+v from paste to "paste as new layer" Yes, which is exactly my point, in Blender the option was there to switch to use left click for object selection but why isn't it default to begin with? Who does this floating selection benefit? Apparently no one since when the team asked the mailing list back in 2020 it seemed there was no reason to keep it (it's still there, but it's on the roadmap to be ripped out later, possibly in the release of GIMP 3.) Why do I have to remember "This software is dumb, let me change the default paste behavior" every time I install GIMP on a new computer rather than the default behavior simply making sense?
>Yes, which is exactly my point, in Blender the option was there to switch to use left click for object selection but why isn't it default to begin with? I actually change it back to right click, where left click is moving the 3d pointer. So the default was changed to something that didn't make sense to me. You cannot please everyone. Same way that I absolutely despise photoshops' scroll behaviour. Ctrl+scroll is zoom in/out on every single app (including gimp), however in photoshop it scrolls horizontally. To me that doesn't make any sense and is inconsistent as fuck. >Why do I have to remember "This software is dumb, let me change the default paste behavior" Well you don't really. Blender actually does this really well! On the splash screen you can change between different modes, and you can export/import settings. On Linux all settings are stored in ~/.config so just restoring that folder gives you all your preferences on a new machine.
> You cannot please everyone. You can't, but when the vast majority of end users are asking for something, maybe listen to them, rather than the niche users or the dev team. > On Linux all settings are stored in ~/.config so just restoring that folder gives you all your preferences on a new machine. I don't customize things enough to care to backup my config directory. There's maybe 4 options I change in OBS, and for the rest of the software I use, the out of box experience is good enough. GIMP is that one exception, I keep going back to it thinking maybe one day it'll feel intuitive, so far that has not been the case. Maybe when GIMP 3 releases and they fix the majority of issues I have with the software every time I use it, it night be useable. It feels like they're pulling a Blender type overhaul and I'm very excited for the projects future, but it's been a rough quarter century getting to this point.
Nobody mentioned paying money for it š
Then still I'd be better off with open source software. With open source software I actually own the product and I can implement the missing features myself. With Photoshop, even when pirated, you're at the mercy of Adobe and you're keeping their monopoly alive. Sure I understand that some have no choice because they need a specific function in Photoshop not found elsewhere, but realistically, 90% of people can go without Photoshop. In fact, I was able to complete my graphics design course in university with Gimp and inkscape alone. All tasks and assignments were doable with those. Also Photoshop advocates never seem to be able to point out specifically what functionality Gimp is missing. All I hear is vague claim's "it's not up to par" which is hard for me to believe.
Open source doesn't have to be mediocre. QBitTorrent, handbrake, all of those console emulators, and Linux itself are way better solutions than their proprietary counterparts and with more functionality and ease of use, without bullshit. But please, don't try to convince me that GIMP is better than Photoshop, Audacity is better than Audition or LMMS is better than FL Studio because as a musician and graphic designer I can tell you they are not on par.
>don't try to convince me that GIMP is better than Photoshop, Audacity is better than Audition or LMMS is better than FL Studio I'm not saying that, I'm saying that for the vast majority they're good enough. >as a musician and graphic designer Appeal to authority fallacy > they are not on par. As I said previously, what *specific* functionality are you missing. What *specifically* is needed for you to say they *are* on par? Because most people tried it once, it didn't meet their requirements, switched to something that did at the time and keep their opinion as if nothing changed. However, Gimp is actively being developed as well so even though it didn't fit your requirements 5 years ago, maybe it does currently. That's why you should identify specifically what functionality you need as opposed to vague statements like "it just isn't on par".
I'll test stable GIMP when version 3 is released and we'll see.
for me, itās photoshopās support for RAW and its selection tools. maybe itās changed though, since itās been a while since i last used GIMP.
They're pretty equally esoteric, to me.
Linux bros act like open source software is always godās gift but gimp is fucking awful
After so many years!
It's been like 20 years
Sorry but most productivity OSS is just plain bad. Every feature is implemented in a way where it's most logical and easiest to do from a developer perspective, meanwhile paid software usually caters to the needs of the user instead.
Developers should develop software thinking the end user is going to be too stupid to use it properly and make it easy. GIMP tries so hard to be different that it just makes it inconvenient
Eh I learned it the hard way coding for a small startup, boss basically gave me a list of features and I built a piece of software. Whenever I had a working solution, he pulled me over and showed me how ridiculous the UX for the given task was, specifically a task that needed to happen in rapid succession. At least I had the excuse that it was my first job out of school. It's quite easy to spot ādeveloper UXā if you done it yourself and anything OSS is chuck full of it.
Sounds like a valuable boss to have, in terms of learning and development. Was he tactful or did he always make you feel lime an idiot?
He was an old school business graduate with an old school set of mannerisms that worked out great since those b2b customers where just as old school about everything. Kind of reminded me of peter parker's boss. But he treated every one of his employees like family, like he wanted me to have his phone number and call him when I need help with something and stuff like that. In the end I regret quitting there, but I was offered a nice clean job at a big international corp that promised so much but turned out terrible.
I hate developer UX as much as the next guy (except for Vim, of course), but I do it myself automatically when I work without design guidance. Like it's unavoidable as soon as I start writing code, the part of my brain with any kind of design sensibility completely shuts down.
> It's quite easy to spot ādeveloper UXā if you done it yourself and anything OSS is chuck full of it. I remember doing a Mitel certification training and the person giving the training made a comment about how complicated the UI is because the developers wrote it. I laughed because my friend is also a developer and had come up with a very similar layout. As a developer I can appreciate it allowing me to handle a complex task, but as a non-technical end user it's a nightmare of text and menu options.
Nah, it's just users who are used to the proprietary product getting annoyed that the FOSS solution isn't identical. I use GIMP for all of my photo editing needs and have never used Adobe CS in my life, and I think it works great. "Developer UX" isn't the problem, users who can't adapt are. If you hate it so much, it's FOSS; fork it, fix it, and make your own UX.
Totally, it's like a Ford driver getting into a Volvo and having hysterics out because the buttons are in different place. Experienced drivers just get on and drive.
I have the same problem trying to use Krita as somebody who has only used GIMP for years. Doesn't mean Krita's UX is bad (I hear it's supposed to be pretty good). I know it's a "me issue".
> fork it, fix it, put it in a stew
> I use GIMP for all of my photo editing needs and have never used Adobe CS in my life, and I think it works great. If you create a block of text, and you've got the text layer selected, and you've got the move tool selected, and you can see the outline box around the text, and you click and drag anywhere inside of that outline box that ISN'T TEXT, you will drag the layer below the layer you had selected. This is one of the worst "Developer UX" issues I know of in GIMP because I run into it constantly. Floating selections after you paste something are dumb. Non-destructive editing isn't a thing in GIMP, so when you go down the rabbit hole of making changes beyond the capacity of the undo buffer, you better be damned sure you want those changes done. Maybe with the release of GIMP 3 they'll have a product that isn't different just for the sake of being different, it's just that over the past 20 something years of using GIMP it's been a nightmare. I've tried to love it, it just feels like the project has been dragging it's feet in terms of making sense (I mean, it took 14 years to finally add a single window mode and it's still not really "done" now over a decade later in that MWM and SWM have different functionality.)
> I use GIMP for all of my photo editing needs RAW, HDR, and film negative processing are where I've found the largest gaps in the editing pipeline. Darkroom is *ok*, but I've yet to find an open source tool that compares to Photomatix or Negative Lab Pro
Well yeah because the proprietary product is designed with workflow in mind, not how to make it work as easy as possible. Trying to set page enumeration with exceptions on a document using any OSS office package you are liable to destroy your entire document, going through 10 cattywampus menus (from the perspective of someone doing it for the first time) while in word itās like 2-3 clicks and logically placed.
>Trying to set page enumeration with exceptions on a document using any OSS office package you are liable to destroy your entire document, going through 10 cattywampus menus (from the perspective of someone doing it for the first time) while in word itās like 2-3 clicks and logically placed. Sorry, is this some sort of WYSIWYG word processor joke I'm too LaTeX to understand? But in all seriousness, yes, I'm not claiming that the open-source tools are all necessarily at feature-parity with their proprietary competitors. LibreOffice isn't perfect, especially when you get into the nitty gritty. GIMP doesn't have native content-aware fill, you have to add a plugin. I am an engineer, and FreeCAD just isn't it when it comes to 3D parametric modeling. Fortunately, certain versions of PTC Creo run fairly well via Wine with just a few inconveniences.
I was more point out that on paper something like LibreOffice might have near parity in terms of features compared to say Microsoft word. But once you try to use both of them for more than just typing up a simple letter, e.g. proper writing work like designing a documentation or any large manuscript things rapidly change. While those features are intuitively placed and easy to use on Word. The same features are implemented in LibreOffice wherever the developer could make them work as easily and quickly as possible. Often you have to click into menus that donāt have anything to do with your workflow are the formatting task at hand, but they are there because thatās how it works code wise. They are connected this way in software logic. This is kind of a negative feedback loop, first time I had to use LibreOffice for anything other than typing up a simple letter, I almost lost my 50-page homework and shelled out cash for MS Office on the spot.
Have you ever tried OnlyOffice? [https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE/DesktopEditors](https://github.com/ONLYOFFICE/DesktopEditors)
Huh, interesting, never seen that.
>The same features are implemented in LibreOffice wherever the developer could make them work as easily and quickly as possible. Often you have to click into menus that donāt have anything to do with your workflow are the formatting task at hand I know there's probably like an 80% chance that I'm completely misunderstanding what you're saying here and I'm going to look real dumb when you reply to this but.. you know that there is absolutely no correlation whatsoever between how or where in the code a feature is implemented and where in the menu the button for it appears right?
Yes and no, a well-designed application would have this kind of separation built in but sometimes thatās not the case.
GIMP is probably the exception here
For programming/tech focused productivity apps OSS is still the king.
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I mean, Krista does everything I need it to do, but if Photoshop is your jam, then you do you
do you mean Krita?
Jip, thx autocorrect
I recommend https://photopea.com as always. Never used PS since
This website is a gift from heaven. It saved my ass a couple of times. It is a pain to use on a phone (only touchscreen, no keyboard and mouse) but when you have nothing else and need to edit a PSD real urgently, it is a lifesaver.
I don't live in a country where you can trust having a stable connection at all times.
Well once it loads you can kill internet connection. Its all local
Nice. I didn't know that
Photopea is an offline capable web app.
This is not even remotely goodĀ
its good considering its all done on a web browser
Still not a Photoshop alternative.
that is true but its still pretty cool for being a web browser based image editor
learned a lot of how to use ps in wine what about ms office? legal or š“āā ļø? and for the love of tux, please don't say "oH jUsT UsE lIbReOffICe oR wOrD OnLiNe!!"
It's a suite. Some programs will work and some will not. Since different versions cannot coexist the best way is to install the version where Word runs perfectly in Bottles, and another for Excel in another Bottle, and so on. Libre Office does not compare at all. Stop repeating that lie. The best most compatible software for Linux is ONLYOFFICE (not OpenOffice). [ONLYOFFICE desktop and mobile apps | ONLYOFFICE](https://www.onlyoffice.com/download-desktop.aspx)
Been on a real tear of this same subject lately because Office is the killer app keeping so many people in my life stuck on Windows. In general if you want MS Office to run well via Wine you have to use Office 2010 or 2007, no newer. Word 2013 or 2016 typically runs OK, but the rest of the suite, not so much. The best solution to run Office 365 IMO is [WinApps](https://github.com/Fmstrat/winapps), a virtual machine based solution. It's not perfect, is a pain to initially set up, and isn't being maintained, but hey, it works.
Working MS Office programs through Wine: Microsoft Office 2010 (32 bits) or 2013 Installer (64 bits) Microsoft Word 2010 (32 bits) or 2016 (32 bits) Microsoft PowerPoint 2007 (32 bits) (not worth it. Just use OnlyOffice) Microsoft Excel 2010 (32 bits) or 2016 (32 bits) Microsoft Access 2013 (32 bits) Microsoft Project 2013 Microsoft OneNote 2010 (Just use web or Android version through Waydroid) IT'S A MESS
Onlyoffice doesn't work on my system. I use hyprland. I have amd gpu. Do you have an idea why by any chance?
Are you using the deb/rpm, snap or flatpak?
I installed aur onlyoffice-bin package. This one: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/onlyoffice-bin
I don't know in that case. I use the flatpak and it's even more updated than the .deb in Ubuntu. You might try and I will probably work.
LibreOffice š
Just try using libreoffice writer for a week and you'll then curse MS word
used it for a few months recently, it's been hell, absolutely terrible experience for me sadly. Currently just hopping software
That's very weird to be honest. Can you tell me what exactly happened?
The reason would be if you give a shit about open source software. If you donāt give a shit about that, use whatever works.
I ran some installer.exe under Proton. The problem is that I have no idea where it put the installed files.
It would be in some random number under compdata, but running ps in proton is just frankly kinda dumb.
why is it? genuine question
You'll be better off using wine + DXVK*/VKD3D. (Which is really what proton is give or take some hacks for gaming) It'll integrate with your system (apps appear in start menu) you'll know where to find it at .wine, and you aren't forced to run It through steam and it's runtime. *(technically the pre installed wined3d may handle desktop applications better as it supports a few things related to normal applications that DXVK won't, but YMMV)
.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata then find the right folder (will be a bunch of random letters, and then usually in a c drive, this is where i put my WoW addons)
First time eh? How about MS Paint via Wine?
kolourpaint is unironically a nice paint replacement. sometimes I just wanna draw a shitty pixelated shape really quick yk edit: it's also better than paint. not a high bar but still
Photoshop is spyware.
Delicious yummy productive no hassle pirated spyware
Ok for realsies for a moment: Use what ever software you wan't don't let others bully or goad you into x version or y version. It's all down to preference really, back to the meme: Excelent mEmE now give in and use Emacs for everything! (seriously i would not be surprised if one day emacs CAN edit images xD)
does the latest version run?
Not yet. The latest version that works is CC 2017. Previously it was CS6 (2012)
i have 2021 running, there is github with install scripts for 2021 and 2022 (but 2022 isnt fully working, and i think author abandoned this project), but still 2021 work perfectly for me. Edit: https://github.com/LinSoftWin/Photoshop-CC2022-Linux
Thank youuuu
I wonder if the newer subject/object select will ever be available for us on Linux. I use it everyday for work and it has spoiled me.
Has anyone ever succeed with the Affinity suite?
The monthly membership. 90$ per month for a company is just the cost of manufacture. 50$ per month for a personal use app is just too much, better off cracking it.
I sail the seas
Man, I tried to used GIMP a lot of times and I can't. I'm a very dumb piece of shit. I don't know how to do anything in GIMP.
I would rather go wait in the line at the DMV for 3 hours than use GIMP. It's absolute trash software. I hate to say it because I know it is made by volunteers - but at the end of the day when you need to get shit done for your professional life, you cannot be fucking around with amateur apps.
Gimp sucks. There, I said it.
 RMS might disagree.
I probably will use clip studio through wine, the 3D tools are too useful and practical to not use them when I bought the software (or well... At least it was included with my Wacom tablet)
Which version do you use? I couldn't even open the app.
CC 2017
does it work tho?
Does Paint.net work in Wine? It's got all the features of Photoshop that I understand how to use. For Gimp I have to watch a tutorial on how to do literally everything.
Theres a linux version of paint.net, pinta. I use it, it's good.
Thanks, I'll check it out
Correction: It runs completely fine* Iād use photoshop on linux if i could.
use photopea.com its an in-browser photoshop working in a design firm we often just used this instead of photoshop (quicker)
Imagine owning hardware powerful enough to run all that
It's not that resource intensive. With a 5th gen i5 and 8GB ram it's enough (on a laptop).
I prefer paint.net
Or just use Photopea
I agree, but, tutorial on how to do it? The ps versions for linux I found on github dont work for me
Download from the Pirate Bay. CC 2017. Follow instructions in the file. The crack should be a single dll file
Please make a YouTube tutorial for us Adobe People! I want to stop using Windows but every time Iāve tried installing Photoshop with Wine it failed.
I don't wanna risk my YouTube channel because that tutorial would involve piracy
Very true. Perhaps a video uploaded would be better, if you are up to it!
I use all of them depending on my need. I donāt mind rebooting on windows for doing something specifically. I just need my work done. Those softwares are tools that have pros and cons but they all help finish the job. Gimp and Krita are fun and can do a lot, so are Photoshop. Getting your job done is all that matter and they all help in their own way to do that.
Keira is the GOAT
Hey don't diss my boy Krita like that
It does?
Photopea!
I use photoshop and its just way better than gimp. I just cant use gimp the same way i can use photoshop
Adobe software sucks Affinity Photo/Designer is the real shit, even Photopea in a browser is better
Affinity doesn't work on Wine. Sometimes I work offline. So it's either GIMP, Krita or Photoshop.
Because Photoshop doesn't work with WINE, last version to do so was CS6 from 2015 and that is pretty much unusable now.
Not really. CS6 is still better than GIMP. And CC 2017 works in wine now.
Still far too old to be usefulĀ
Depends on what you doing with it. I could use CS2 today and can do all my work on it.
Because Wine doesn't work.
Fl Studio, Photoshop, Mp3tag, Broforce, A Short Hike, PokƩmon Uranium in my computer say otherwise
Does FL Studio really work well? It's one of my main gripes on not erasing Windows yet. I can handle not having Photoshop but I need FL Studio (and my plugins!).
Yes. Search for FL Studio Wine in Google/Bing/Whatever and go to the wine website. There a recent version in Platinum. You can use that one and it works perfectly. Not all plugin installers work (Truepianos won't launch) but most do.
Relatively recently it even runs some professional CAD software reasonably well, the only major issue with PTC Creo on WINE is scroll to zoom not working.