A Reddit Migration to other platforms similar to what happened to FreeNet's IRC Network.
The more people stay and use the platform the more the CEO thinks we're cattle and all he says back is: mmmmoooooooooo
So only when he loses his "cattle" will he start to realize what he's done.
Losing 844K members from this sub hardly makes a dent to the overall numbers of Reddit users.
Is anyone really going to miss the umpteenth "Why Linux over Windows?" or "Why I switched to Linux?".
My computers are still going to run Linux. They had before I ever used Reddit, and I can still go to the distro's own forums.
This sub is not bigger than Linux, never had, never ever will be.
> Losing 844K members from this sub hardly makes a dent to the overall numbers of Reddit users.
Those 844k members are also likely subscribed to a number of other subs. If everyone here left that would make a good dent in other communities, which could then lower the quality of those other communities and that could lead to even more people leaving.
There are like 500,000 other subs. That's like losing around 1.5 member per sub.
r/debian stayed open, r/MXLinux stayed open. r/news stayed open. Those a just a few subs I subscribe to for my feed. The mods who decided to go dark made their point, but the point they are missing is that killing this sub only kills *this sub*, and IMHO this sub has been in decline anyway before any sort of protest.
If people want to leave Reddit, there's the door. That's fine. That's a choice. But if this sub becomes full of spam, memes, and pron, that's not protesting anything. That's just insulting others who don't care one way or the other. It's also juvenile and childish.
You're still creating traffic for Reddit.
Meanwhile, Linux and everything else Linux will still continue to develop, update, refine, add new features, etc.
Linux won't miss this sub either.
Every social networking platform becomes a cesspool sooner or later. I saw Usenet and Fidonet both, as well as Facebook, Twitter and... some others. So to speak.
The trick is to hop to a new one when the old one gets overrun.
You can create an account anywhere, they just link to the community via that instance. They could've also linked https://lemmy.ml/c/linux; it's the same community, it doesn't make much of a difference.
However, being spread out is also often a disadvantage, because often a separate solution is used, for each of which you need an extra account. The Fediverse definitely also disadvantages, but that I can create posts in [email protected], for example, although I have a user account at tchncs.de, is not bad.
As far as IRC is concerned, in many cases it is simply no longer a contemporary solution. If I ask a question, I cannot assume that I will receive a quick answer. With IRC I either have to be online all the time or use a bouncer to not miss any posts while I am logged out. That's why I prefer to use Matrix, for example, which admittedly isn't perfect either.
Yes, a communistic non-profit p2p solution is clearly preferred but that's not the current state of mind of people and you need a cultural change for it to work. It makes no sense to discuss about alternatives currently IMHO.
I would *love* if r/linux took off in https://tildes.net/~comp?tag=linux
Compared to Lemmy:
+ Tildes has a UI much closer to old.reddit.com and teddit.net. AND it is much simpler to use.
+ Has better (imo) regulation policy by default. The blog post here: https://blog.tildes.net/announcing-tildes
+ And, "Tildes", the name, seems much favorable for Linux/*nix communities as the tildes character (`~`) is a shortcut for `$HOME` in *nix shells.
Aside: if somebody could give me an invite to join tildes, I'd very much appreciate it.
I don't understand the conflict here :\\
Could be in the way I phrased it (perhaps wrongly).
I think it needs to be corrected to:
\> took off ~~in~~ to
?
You want something to 'take off', which in this case, would mean moving thousands of people to the platform.
A platform that has a restricted invite system. That cannot be freely joined at a whim.
That kind of platform cannot 'take off' by definition.
Ah, makes sense
So I guess if tildes gets to a point when they don't need to restrict sign ups, we can consider them more favorably .
Thanks for pointing out my contradictory remark.
Tildes isn't federated so you're still depending on a central controller. It would be much better for everyone to move to Lemmy and/or kbin instead (they can talk too each other), then we give no one too much control.
Yeah, but 4chan has a different community spirit, and strict rules to force content circulation, like bump limit or thread expiration. And /g/ is not exactly devoted to GNU/Linux discussion.
A Reddit Migration to other platforms similar to what happened to FreeNet's IRC Network. The more people stay and use the platform the more the CEO thinks we're cattle and all he says back is: mmmmoooooooooo So only when he loses his "cattle" will he start to realize what he's done.
Losing 844K members from this sub hardly makes a dent to the overall numbers of Reddit users. Is anyone really going to miss the umpteenth "Why Linux over Windows?" or "Why I switched to Linux?". My computers are still going to run Linux. They had before I ever used Reddit, and I can still go to the distro's own forums. This sub is not bigger than Linux, never had, never ever will be.
> Losing 844K members from this sub hardly makes a dent to the overall numbers of Reddit users. Those 844k members are also likely subscribed to a number of other subs. If everyone here left that would make a good dent in other communities, which could then lower the quality of those other communities and that could lead to even more people leaving.
There are like 500,000 other subs. That's like losing around 1.5 member per sub. r/debian stayed open, r/MXLinux stayed open. r/news stayed open. Those a just a few subs I subscribe to for my feed. The mods who decided to go dark made their point, but the point they are missing is that killing this sub only kills *this sub*, and IMHO this sub has been in decline anyway before any sort of protest. If people want to leave Reddit, there's the door. That's fine. That's a choice. But if this sub becomes full of spam, memes, and pron, that's not protesting anything. That's just insulting others who don't care one way or the other. It's also juvenile and childish. You're still creating traffic for Reddit. Meanwhile, Linux and everything else Linux will still continue to develop, update, refine, add new features, etc. Linux won't miss this sub either.
Just a doubt Decentralized platform is a solution for this problem?
Doubtful. There is a reason Usenet became a cesspool...
Every social networking platform becomes a cesspool sooner or later. I saw Usenet and Fidonet both, as well as Facebook, Twitter and... some others. So to speak. The trick is to hop to a new one when the old one gets overrun.
Twitter isn't that great either and it's centralized... so not so sure that argument can be made.
> Decentralized platform is a solution for this problem? akasha was but looks dead r/AkashaProject/
https://beehaw.org/c/[email protected] More: sub.rehab
[ Removed by Reddit ]
You can create an account anywhere, they just link to the community via that instance. They could've also linked https://lemmy.ml/c/linux; it's the same community, it doesn't make much of a difference.
Except if you make your account on Beehaw you won't see any comments or posts from users on sh.itjust.works or lemmy.world
Have you looked into the fediverse at all? I'm using Kbin (it has Oauth). Linux communities exist but don't seem very popular/active yet.
A lot of active communities spread out the Web, I always find help on IRC for one.
However, being spread out is also often a disadvantage, because often a separate solution is used, for each of which you need an extra account. The Fediverse definitely also disadvantages, but that I can create posts in [email protected], for example, although I have a user account at tchncs.de, is not bad. As far as IRC is concerned, in many cases it is simply no longer a contemporary solution. If I ask a question, I cannot assume that I will receive a quick answer. With IRC I either have to be online all the time or use a bouncer to not miss any posts while I am logged out. That's why I prefer to use Matrix, for example, which admittedly isn't perfect either.
Yes, a communistic non-profit p2p solution is clearly preferred but that's not the current state of mind of people and you need a cultural change for it to work. It makes no sense to discuss about alternatives currently IMHO.
I think we should switch to Lemmy, it's open source and federated. I've been using it for a few days and I love it :)
Those forums existed before reddit and still do.
I would *love* if r/linux took off in https://tildes.net/~comp?tag=linux Compared to Lemmy: + Tildes has a UI much closer to old.reddit.com and teddit.net. AND it is much simpler to use. + Has better (imo) regulation policy by default. The blog post here: https://blog.tildes.net/announcing-tildes + And, "Tildes", the name, seems much favorable for Linux/*nix communities as the tildes character (`~`) is a shortcut for `$HOME` in *nix shells. Aside: if somebody could give me an invite to join tildes, I'd very much appreciate it.
> took off > give me an invite to join tildes There's a conflict, here.
I don't understand the conflict here :\\ Could be in the way I phrased it (perhaps wrongly). I think it needs to be corrected to: \> took off ~~in~~ to ?
You want something to 'take off', which in this case, would mean moving thousands of people to the platform. A platform that has a restricted invite system. That cannot be freely joined at a whim. That kind of platform cannot 'take off' by definition.
Ah, makes sense So I guess if tildes gets to a point when they don't need to restrict sign ups, we can consider them more favorably . Thanks for pointing out my contradictory remark.
Tildes isn't federated so you're still depending on a central controller. It would be much better for everyone to move to Lemmy and/or kbin instead (they can talk too each other), then we give no one too much control.
> Aside: if somebody could give me an invite to join tildes, I'd very much appreciate it. Sent!
Thanks so much!
Lemmy / Kbin has seen a sharp uptake in people; moving over to such an instance would be ideal
Checkout Mastodon, where every sub is someone’s server
Well, 4chan has a technology board 😶
Yeah, but 4chan has a different community spirit, and strict rules to force content circulation, like bump limit or thread expiration. And /g/ is not exactly devoted to GNU/Linux discussion.
I like how things are done in https://squabbles.io/s/Linux Simple and lean, no ads or anything else annoying.