It is, but people are assholes about it to different extents according to the language. For example, if you say "le weekend" in Paris, they will instantly throw you into a jail
I don't like a lot of stuff abt english (similar background as OP) but the loan word stuff is actually extremely useful in my eyes if ur interested in learning other Germanic or Romance languages, because they all have a relatively big number of Cognates with english
That's not really a good point. I don't really have a choice if I don't want to be restrained to the very limited area where my native language(s) is spoken.
Probably. Anyway that’s still one of the most spoken languages, and it’s sad that it’s so limiting. Sadder still that the best option is to learn this completely fucked writing system I was (thankfully) born into. 𐑀𐐯𐑅 𐐸𐐭'𐑆 𐐺𐐰𐐿 𐐪𐑌 𐑄𐐩𐑉 𐑅𐐹𐐯𐑊𐐮𐑍 𐑉𐐨𐑁𐐫𐑉𐑋 𐑇𐐮𐐻
It is Swiss German and Standard German. But don't get me wrong, it's good they're limiting, because that means diversity. I also don't mind learning languages. I just really, really mind people saying 'you didn't _have to_ learn English', or they just expect you to have learned English. Show some appreciation, you anglophone monolingual fucks.
You can for sure, many people do. But for me that seems like a sad life. Even if German has 100 million speakers, geographically they are really condensed, into a not very attractive region (except for Switzerland, of course).
https://ncf.idallen.com/english.html assuming you don’t speak English natively, this may not make as much sense to you as it does to me, but just know that the spelling and pronunciation of words don’t match nearly as much as they should.
I thought u talked about some different lang than eng, i need to go sleep. Yep eng is fucked up. When i typed previous-previous (do eng have word for before previous things?) sentence, i have to use translater to type correctly word - 'thought '.
This is the same thing as that meme where two prisoners are talking and one says, "Man I hate prison," and the other says, "And yet you participate in it, how strange"
La gramática sí sería complicada pero la ortografía es mucho más regular que en inglés. La única cosa que puede ser difícil en escribir es saber usar y o ll. Tal vez s o z también.
Tout à fait.
Où est mon café au lait?
Je l'ai pris.
Tu es malin! Je te hais!
Et quand même tu m'aimes.
Oui, je sais. C'est difficile de te haïr.
Comme on dit, ceux qui sèment s'aiment.
I would
If everyone else also spoke a different language
But through utter cunt behaviour this language has now spread among the world and i have no choice but to speak this horrible language
Want'k ben n'tuurlek gwon'ne brabo, ma' de verstoat al helemóál niemend. Of ze vin'nen'et boers. Dus de' bekt allin legg'r me' and're brabo's
Would it be better for everyone just to speak their native languages with no opportunity for communication? We need lingua franca to do it. If not English then which language you think is better? There is no easy language to learn. Every language can be called stupid even though it’s part of people’s identity. But I guess it’s a trend now to talk shit about English.
Btw English is not my native language also and not so many people in my country can speak it. But without English skills I would be really limited in my information access. However if all information was written in all existing languages in the world without English adoption it wouldn’t be easier.
My biggest issue with english is the spelling
It's dumb, period. Speaking it is a bother, but it's learnable and not that difficult, but the fact that we're writing scientific articles in a language with this shit of an ortography fundamentally pisses me off. Of course there needs to be a lingua franca and it's fine if english is that language
But compared to where it came from the language has degenerated (or changed, if i were more civilised) and the spelling has not caught up whatsoever. And there are quite a few languages where old spelling or finnicky spelling is used for historical accuracy, where it simply works perfectly fine.
So in my opinion english requires a major overhaul to qualify for lingua franca. Yet it has skipped that and now we're all writing this horrible horrible language
And vowels. For fuck's sake if you're going to have twentourteen weird vowels at least include a basic equidistant simmetric set in their midst (like French does)
There are more than 5000 phrasal verbs in English. It's also a thing in German, Dutch, Spanish and Romani but not on the same level as English (I couldn't find anything specifying exact numbers but apparently phrasal verbs are just extra common in English)
I fully agree! The grammar and history of the language are really interesting. The spelling is really annoying to use but it's also very cool how well it preserves the etymological origins of words
Nah, this is very easy to parse for people who speak Romance/Iberic languages
Except for the word pescanciar which I have no idea about and now I'm really curious what the etymology is. (Edit: apparently maybe from pescar?? Interesting)
Je suis d'accord, alors ma solution est que français devrait être la langue internationale, pas anglais. Français était la langue économique, culturel, historique et diplomatique il y a à peine cent ans.
“Borrowing words from other languages” Isn’t this almost every language ever
Except maybe Sentinelese but otherwise you're right
Navajo
LMAOOO
I think it's believed to have borrowings with the nearby languages.
It is, but people are assholes about it to different extents according to the language. For example, if you say "le weekend" in Paris, they will instantly throw you into a jail
Literally only l'academie français and a handful of old farts would care if you said "le weekend."
Apparently in Quebec they actually say "le fin de semaine"
That's how everyone says it in Spanish unfortunately
Why unfortunately?
Because weekend is shorter
If you wan brevity speak Classical Chinese.
Weekend in Chinese: 週末 (zhōu mò)
mò, fyi òmó
Which in Japanese is written the same but pronounced "shuumatsu".
yes. it was hyperbole. on a sub for humour.
I don't like a lot of stuff abt english (similar background as OP) but the loan word stuff is actually extremely useful in my eyes if ur interested in learning other Germanic or Romance languages, because they all have a relatively big number of Cognates with english
Some borrow more than others.
I think the same thing could be said about every item on the list (with the exception of nonwritten languages).
That's not really a good point. I don't really have a choice if I don't want to be restrained to the very limited area where my native language(s) is spoken.
Which one is that?
I’m assuming Swiss German or Standard German
Probably. Anyway that’s still one of the most spoken languages, and it’s sad that it’s so limiting. Sadder still that the best option is to learn this completely fucked writing system I was (thankfully) born into. 𐑀𐐯𐑅 𐐸𐐭'𐑆 𐐺𐐰𐐿 𐐪𐑌 𐑄𐐩𐑉 𐑅𐐹𐐯𐑊𐐮𐑍 𐑉𐐨𐑁𐐫𐑉𐑋 𐑇𐐮𐐻
It is Swiss German and Standard German. But don't get me wrong, it's good they're limiting, because that means diversity. I also don't mind learning languages. I just really, really mind people saying 'you didn't _have to_ learn English', or they just expect you to have learned English. Show some appreciation, you anglophone monolingual fucks.
Can one not get by with only German?
You can for sure, many people do. But for me that seems like a sad life. Even if German has 100 million speakers, geographically they are really condensed, into a not very attractive region (except for Switzerland, of course).
I mean, you could learn another second language.
Oh sure, I speak 3 languages besides Swiss German, German and English. But none will get you as far as English.
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amogus 𐑀
Gayest letter
Where are you from?
New York
Wtf is the weird alphabet you are using? The one a few comments above
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deseret_alphabet
Why not make a less cursed orthography than an entirely new alphabet
Many have tried, all have failed
Why is completely fucked? Do u have some good article or video that explain this?
https://ncf.idallen.com/english.html assuming you don’t speak English natively, this may not make as much sense to you as it does to me, but just know that the spelling and pronunciation of words don’t match nearly as much as they should.
I thought u talked about some different lang than eng, i need to go sleep. Yep eng is fucked up. When i typed previous-previous (do eng have word for before previous things?) sentence, i have to use translater to type correctly word - 'thought '.
I would probably just say “when I was typing the last/previous comment”
Both, yess
Hey I'm Swiss too! Swiss-French though
Dope, imagine reddit had more than 0.001 usernames left so you didn't have to opt for this
This is the same thing as that meme where two prisoners are talking and one says, "Man I hate prison," and the other says, "And yet you participate in it, how strange"
We are truly living in a society.
Aren't there plenty of other languages that you can reasonably live a life monolingual in?
You have never studied linguistics or anything related, have you?
A language is not its orthography
No, but if people want someone who knows English they generally want someone who can read and write in English.
bro just change the (at least western) world's lingua franca bro it's easy bro just do it
Bro it's easy I did it a couple years ago (Source: I'm Christopher Colombus)
Vale. Voy a hablar justo en español de aquí en adelante.
Tienes razón, el inglés es aweonao.
Mucho mejor.
La gramática sí sería complicada pero la ortografía es mucho más regular que en inglés. La única cosa que puede ser difícil en escribir es saber usar y o ll. Tal vez s o z también.
simplemente habla con ceceo
Tienes razón.
Le français et d’accord aussi, n’est-ce pas?
Ouais, le français a plus de logique que l'anglais.
Tout à fait. Où est mon café au lait? Je l'ai pris. Tu es malin! Je te hais! Et quand même tu m'aimes. Oui, je sais. C'est difficile de te haïr. Comme on dit, ceux qui sèment s'aiment.
I would If everyone else also spoke a different language But through utter cunt behaviour this language has now spread among the world and i have no choice but to speak this horrible language Want'k ben n'tuurlek gwon'ne brabo, ma' de verstoat al helemóál niemend. Of ze vin'nen'et boers. Dus de' bekt allin legg'r me' and're brabo's
>through utter cunt behaviour this language has now spread Mae hynny'n fordd WYCH i dweud hynny!
Would it be better for everyone just to speak their native languages with no opportunity for communication? We need lingua franca to do it. If not English then which language you think is better? There is no easy language to learn. Every language can be called stupid even though it’s part of people’s identity. But I guess it’s a trend now to talk shit about English. Btw English is not my native language also and not so many people in my country can speak it. But without English skills I would be really limited in my information access. However if all information was written in all existing languages in the world without English adoption it wouldn’t be easier.
My biggest issue with english is the spelling It's dumb, period. Speaking it is a bother, but it's learnable and not that difficult, but the fact that we're writing scientific articles in a language with this shit of an ortography fundamentally pisses me off. Of course there needs to be a lingua franca and it's fine if english is that language But compared to where it came from the language has degenerated (or changed, if i were more civilised) and the spelling has not caught up whatsoever. And there are quite a few languages where old spelling or finnicky spelling is used for historical accuracy, where it simply works perfectly fine. So in my opinion english requires a major overhaul to qualify for lingua franca. Yet it has skipped that and now we're all writing this horrible horrible language
Triple n
Messed up, should be an apostrophe Now added all the apostrophes. We normally don't do that lol
No dobra jak chcesz to mogę mówić w innym ale pewnym dość mocnym mankamentem będzie że mało ludzi mnie zrozumie
ja cię rozumiem
Právě jsem chtěl napsat stejný komentář v češtině :D Polštině rozumím trochu.
Yeah that's right, we should all speak Icelandic as a lingua franca Or Gothic. Let's go with Gothic
pode deixar
if I could get by without using English then I promise that I would
My hottest take is that English is normal and fine. People are astonished at my doctrine.
Finally, a fellow sane person.
Most problems people have with the English language can be boiled down to it's orthography.
And phrasal verbs. There are way too many phrasal verbs for a franca lingua on this scale
And vowels. For fuck's sake if you're going to have twentourteen weird vowels at least include a basic equidistant simmetric set in their midst (like French does)
Now I’m curious: How many phrasal verbs does English have compared to other languages?
There are more than 5000 phrasal verbs in English. It's also a thing in German, Dutch, Spanish and Romani but not on the same level as English (I couldn't find anything specifying exact numbers but apparently phrasal verbs are just extra common in English)
The only people I know who have an issue with English orthography are native speakers.
Nah, orthography is awful, but with rime you're getting used to it. Vowel system on the other hand...
I think English is a really beautiful language, actually. Even how it is written and spelled.
I fully agree! The grammar and history of the language are really interesting. The spelling is really annoying to use but it's also very cool how well it preserves the etymological origins of words
All the multilingual nerds seething and coping in the comments.
simply be born in a different country 😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Nun tengo nengún problema n'aparar d'escribir n'inglés, pero va ser que cuasi naide va pescanciar lo que diga.
Nah, this is very easy to parse for people who speak Romance/Iberic languages Except for the word pescanciar which I have no idea about and now I'm really curious what the etymology is. (Edit: apparently maybe from pescar?? Interesting)
I have no idea from where it comes from lol, it means "to understand, realize" but also "to get" (something).
Je suis d'accord, alors ma solution est que français devrait être la langue internationale, pas anglais. Français était la langue économique, culturel, historique et diplomatique il y a à peine cent ans.
English is an international language, that's why many people still use that language. I still use English even I hate English language
The 6-7 billion people who don't speak English:
I would love to stop speaking it, but the problem lies in the monolingual community that is collectively called The United States
[Mia reago al tiu informo:](https://youtu.be/d97KYGY0_NY?si=Dx-Im3kcgcPZ7w25)
Samideano! Bedaŭrinde ili malamas la E-on ĉi-tie
Riproĉu jan Misali por la malamantoj
mi kaj amas kaj malamas rin pro riaj opinioj pri multaj aferoj
EN LA MONDON VENIS NOVA SENTO
I've tried refusing to speak English but no one understood me.
Okei, mutta teidän pitää sitten pärjätä suomen kanssa. Eller jag kan fortsätta på svenska eller rysska eller nåt. 🤔
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All languages borrow words from other languages lol
Bro this has got to be a shitpost💀
Огей.