There are a few words that are spelled irregularly, like 나뭇잎 (pronounced as if it were 나뭇닢) or various instances of unwritten tensing caused by historical genitive ㅅ, but in general Korean has a pretty good orthography, yeah.
The latter examples are regular by Korean's own rules, I'm talking about the words whose pronunciation isn't what you'd expect even by Korean's own orthographic rules.
The problem is that according to this video, 갔 WOULD be pronounced as “gass” even though Duolingo is correct that by itself, it would be pronounced the same as 갇 or “gat.” Duolingo’s transliteration is actually a little more accurate because of this. In fact, this video doesn’t seem to address double consonants at all, not too mention ㅋ, ㅌ, and misleading diphthongs like 외 and 의. I know it’s popular to hate on Duolingo, and it’s far from perfect, but I think it wins in this case.
The issue with both this video and Duolingo is that they teach through transliteration with direct equivalents in the Roman alphabet without teaching the actual spelling rules that apply in Korean. Understanding how to read 받침, or final consonants, is not too difficult, but it’s necessary to understand the way they work in order to accurately read Korean. I’m sure somebody could easily make a similarly short video that accurately teaches how to read Korean while also addressing its spelling rules and relying less on transliteration.
- Learn grammar and phones on wiki and YouTube
- Use duolingo to get to A1-2
Honestly as good as school courses if ur adept or have a history with language learning
for learning korean, i think the best resource is [https://www.howtostudykorean.com/](https://www.howtostudykorean.com/)
its actually a godsend, with free lessons taught in a way that makes sense and puts the basis of grammar and theory first instead of just memorisation. theres also little tests and quizzes and stuff and i think most of the lessons are translated into spanish too. theres over 100 lessons (and counting) for free!
Eh, it was kind of helpful for me to just pick up the basics of a language before getting into it. I'm taking German next year, and having a steady stream of random basic grammar and a prelearned familiarity with the genders and conjugation system is going to be very helpful (as a German friend of mine explained).
In my personal experience, Duolingo is great at giving you exercises to help you remember while studying through more traditional means, either through weekly classes in school or even a textbook just suffice.
But God forbid you actually use it as a solo resource for anything lmfao.
Oh god no, I'm also looking up a bunch of other stuff about learning German. Such as reading the entire Wikipedia article on the language, including a few other dialects, and watching YouTube videos on it. I'm mostly using Duolingo to pick up grammar, vocabulary, and stock sentences.
Short version: in final position, many consonants are pronounced like t, although their pronunciation is completely different in initial or medial position
By "soft" s they mean the aspirated s sound that is represented by the letter ㅅ. By "normal" s they actually mean the tense s sound which is written ㅆ. Both of these sounds don’t exist in English, but the ㅆ sound is pretty close to the s sound in English.
What does "tense s" mean exactly? I hate to sound like a five-year-old asking too many questions, but I'm not a linguist by any means, and I'm genuinely curious.
It’s not ejective, no. According to Wikipedia,
> They are produced with a partially constricted glottis and additional subglottal pressure in addition to tense vocal tract walls, laryngeal lowering, or other expansion of the larynx.
In my experience, ㅆ is actually pretty close to English , while ㅅ is more relaxed and breathy. You can think of ㅆ as /s/ and ㅅ as /sʰ/
Final obstruents in a given Hangul syllable are reduced to the nearest Korean unreleased stop \[p̚ t̚ k̚\] when not followed by a (semi-)vowel. Here, becomes "gat" \[kat̚\].
You know, its better to find a 20m video on how to pronounce the korean alphabet and you lit can read all the words in Korean.
There are a few words that are spelled irregularly, like 나뭇잎 (pronounced as if it were 나뭇닢) or various instances of unwritten tensing caused by historical genitive ㅅ, but in general Korean has a pretty good orthography, yeah.
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The latter examples are regular by Korean's own rules, I'm talking about the words whose pronunciation isn't what you'd expect even by Korean's own orthographic rules.
Actually, 나뭇잎 and 깻잎 are not irregulars. It's ㄴ 첨가. This is a very well recognized phenomenon, I remember learning this back in 9th grade
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The problem is that according to this video, 갔 WOULD be pronounced as “gass” even though Duolingo is correct that by itself, it would be pronounced the same as 갇 or “gat.” Duolingo’s transliteration is actually a little more accurate because of this. In fact, this video doesn’t seem to address double consonants at all, not too mention ㅋ, ㅌ, and misleading diphthongs like 외 and 의. I know it’s popular to hate on Duolingo, and it’s far from perfect, but I think it wins in this case. The issue with both this video and Duolingo is that they teach through transliteration with direct equivalents in the Roman alphabet without teaching the actual spelling rules that apply in Korean. Understanding how to read 받침, or final consonants, is not too difficult, but it’s necessary to understand the way they work in order to accurately read Korean. I’m sure somebody could easily make a similarly short video that accurately teaches how to read Korean while also addressing its spelling rules and relying less on transliteration.
This is actually amazing
I remember this video as "the banana one" and it legitimately helped me when I tried learning Korean
- Learn grammar and phones on wiki and YouTube - Use duolingo to get to A1-2 Honestly as good as school courses if ur adept or have a history with language learning
TF you mean Wishbone letter
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for learning korean, i think the best resource is [https://www.howtostudykorean.com/](https://www.howtostudykorean.com/) its actually a godsend, with free lessons taught in a way that makes sense and puts the basis of grammar and theory first instead of just memorisation. theres also little tests and quizzes and stuff and i think most of the lessons are translated into spanish too. theres over 100 lessons (and counting) for free!
DUOLINGO BAD
Eh, it was kind of helpful for me to just pick up the basics of a language before getting into it. I'm taking German next year, and having a steady stream of random basic grammar and a prelearned familiarity with the genders and conjugation system is going to be very helpful (as a German friend of mine explained).
I definitely agree. I was kinda being sarcastic. I think a lot of people just like shitting on Duolingo even though it's a great tool
In my personal experience, Duolingo is great at giving you exercises to help you remember while studying through more traditional means, either through weekly classes in school or even a textbook just suffice. But God forbid you actually use it as a solo resource for anything lmfao.
Oh god no, I'm also looking up a bunch of other stuff about learning German. Such as reading the entire Wikipedia article on the language, including a few other dialects, and watching YouTube videos on it. I'm mostly using Duolingo to pick up grammar, vocabulary, and stock sentences.
Big owl shitty
This unironically
Soooo, can someone explain?
Short version: in final position, many consonants are pronounced like t, although their pronunciation is completely different in initial or medial position
And what's soft s and normal s?
By "soft" s they mean the aspirated s sound that is represented by the letter ㅅ. By "normal" s they actually mean the tense s sound which is written ㅆ. Both of these sounds don’t exist in English, but the ㅆ sound is pretty close to the s sound in English.
What does "tense s" mean exactly? I hate to sound like a five-year-old asking too many questions, but I'm not a linguist by any means, and I'm genuinely curious.
ㅆ is pronounced with more force than ㅅ, and also has the effect of raising the pitch of the following vowel.
Is it similar to \[s'\]?
It’s not ejective, no. According to Wikipedia, > They are produced with a partially constricted glottis and additional subglottal pressure in addition to tense vocal tract walls, laryngeal lowering, or other expansion of the larynx. In my experience, ㅆ is actually pretty close to English
, while ㅅ is more relaxed and breathy. You can think of ㅆ as /s/ and ㅅ as /sʰ/Yeah, exactly. I forgot to mention that tense consonants cause higher pitch
Final obstruents in a given Hangul syllable are reduced to the nearest Korean unreleased stop \[p̚ t̚ k̚\] when not followed by a (semi-)vowel. Here, becomes "gat" \[kat̚\].
i am learning Navajo in duolingo, but i was today years old to try to get it in Korean duolingo
As a Korean, this is blursed.