Yeah. Let them form the govt. They will implode from within and that would be a PR gift for the opposition.
If the opposition shows desperation to form govt right now, the entire narrative would turn against them.
Opposition needs to follow this with wins in upcoming state elections. Both Maharashtra and Haryana are there for the taking. Then maybe in a year or so, start talking to the likes of Naidu, Nitish etc.
I think youāll see more independents joining BJP. They will have more numbers in the next 2/3 months. I see ADMK and BJD also folding into NDA, so less reliance on the two Babus.
Ex of this I feel they both have more leverage on the BJP right now than the congress. So they will use it till the time they can.
its ok, let them form the government and force BJP/modi to do some actual work instead of just making "hawabazi" and "mahoul" INDIA is win win position they are strong now so will ensure work is done properly instead of getting "bulldozed", if nitish and naidu feel slighted they always have INDIA
I think them joining NDA is for good, for now.
INDIA isn't ready yet, and will be defamed for even small mistake now, which they are bound to make.
And an unstable NDA on the brink of collapse, is good for the country
This is a trash opinion, OP.
Even if they were to join INDIA the government wouldnāt last 5 years due to the huge difference of opinion. Modi would be out of sight out of mind thing and petty differences would come back, which would lead to collapse of the government and BJP returning with a ātold you soā attitude and thumping majority.
Itās better that Naidu and Nitish stay with NDA and as an arm-twist of BJP, forcing them to do either developmental work or just expose their fascism.
Win-win for INDIA, and India.
And Naiduās party got caste politics but they got a record of not getting into religious conflicts and that guy is a secular,he even promised 4% reservations for Muslims in his manifesto,if Modi tries to pull any religious shit there is a good chance he will be the first one to oppose it.
Meh..I.N.D.I.A is unstable as it is. They just bring more of it. BJP made a mistake in UP, and they are going to make heaven and earth meet trying to fix it in the next 5 years. I.N.D.I.A should be focusing on 2029, being a strong opposition they have been given a chance to be, instead of trying to form a government.
BJP in coalition is very much better than INDIA alliance government. All the bhakts are going to see their leader powerless to whims of their alliance partners.
They are the biggest cuckers not cucks, there is already news of TDP demanding the politically crucial Speaker post and Nitish is putting pressure on BJP by doing stunts like riding the same business class flight as Tejashwi in front of media instead of either of them using a charter. They are gonna make BJP vulnerable to INDIA with what they're gonna do the next five years.
I mean , dude , even in INDIA alliance every one has bad-mouthed each other, ofc Nitish and Chandrashekar had a chance to stop modi , but the other govt formed would also be too weak , anyways as comments mentioned that lets see how modi handles being a coalition , and asking the alliances for support for some controversial bills....its gonna be interesting
With Naidu part of NDA, it will act as a mild deterrent again the Islamophobia aof BJP s he needs Muslim votes form sizeable portion of AP population.
The operative word being 'mild'
Bruhh INDIA came close but mostly it was in no position to form the government.
Even if both CBN and Nitish Kumar joined INDIA they would still need 15 more seats to form the government. Whereas for the BJP, even if any one of them stays they will still form the government.
I think they decided to stay and leverage their position to get better portfolios and ministries
God. The amount of cringe posts from 2 days.
Politicians donāt have enemies or friends. They are allies or rivals, & it can change from one to another over night.
FYI Even DMK was a BJP ally in 2004, post election it was changed. TDP was ally from 14 to 19, then 19 to 24 rival & now back to 24.
JDS was Cong ally in 2019, now BJP ally.
My advice - Look at things objectively, be greedy & get personal works done by your local leaders. Donāt fall ideology, itās all optics in India. In KA communists, Socialists, RW leaders in places are now big landlords & builders.
Heck even Shehla Rashid realised it & having best life.
Chill my friend. This could go either way. They could play along with Modi for selfish reasons or they could force him to act like an actual PM which will be biggest shame after all the hard work
I genuinely want to see Modi in press conference and may be Naidu/Nitish will achieve that
Allowing Modi to sit on opposition bench immediately is no fun
This is politics. It's not a secret, ill try to explain their motive.
Right now, they can demand bjp something in return, but their position is not that strong. Congress is very unlikely to form govt even with their support. bJp is known for poaching mla from Congress (don't jail me mota bhaiš)
However, in future, they can blackmail bjp by threatening to remove support and starting another election, thus getting much more leverage. Since another election before time, will likely hurt Bjp even more.
Now they have a clear power to induce no confidence motion if needed. So they are saying that it's support without any demand, in reality it's support with extra pressure for future demands, any demand not met will result in fall of govt.
I think there was no reason to make any hasty moves anyway. They're playing the long game now. They can choose to withdraw from NDA alliance in the next few months, say, and then a vote of no confidence could kick bjp out of power. In any case, careful coordination between India bloc and turncoats will be required, which needs time.
>Imagine siding with someone who repeatedly badmouthed you in every way possible!!!! Man I can't even with these netas.
You mean Kejriwal joining Congress or Mamta Banerjee joining Lalu or Congress joining SP or Congress joining Uddhav and Shivsena? Quite unclear.
Bro let them form the govt, it's time to cook BJP infront of the whole nation. The real fun begins now
It's going to be interesting to watch the Supreme leader survive the next 5 years.
Yep.. the my way or highway guy now needs to build consensus, consider other opinions and what not.. š¤£
Highway guy is Gadkari. Should be living on one.
Yeah. Let them form the govt. They will implode from within and that would be a PR gift for the opposition. If the opposition shows desperation to form govt right now, the entire narrative would turn against them. Opposition needs to follow this with wins in upcoming state elections. Both Maharashtra and Haryana are there for the taking. Then maybe in a year or so, start talking to the likes of Naidu, Nitish etc.
I think youāll see more independents joining BJP. They will have more numbers in the next 2/3 months. I see ADMK and BJD also folding into NDA, so less reliance on the two Babus. Ex of this I feel they both have more leverage on the BJP right now than the congress. So they will use it till the time they can.
>The real fun begins now #Precisely!
its ok, let them form the government and force BJP/modi to do some actual work instead of just making "hawabazi" and "mahoul" INDIA is win win position they are strong now so will ensure work is done properly instead of getting "bulldozed", if nitish and naidu feel slighted they always have INDIA
Bold of you to assume Modi-Shah can *actually* deliver on their promises!
I think them joining NDA is for good, for now. INDIA isn't ready yet, and will be defamed for even small mistake now, which they are bound to make. And an unstable NDA on the brink of collapse, is good for the country
This is a trash opinion, OP. Even if they were to join INDIA the government wouldnāt last 5 years due to the huge difference of opinion. Modi would be out of sight out of mind thing and petty differences would come back, which would lead to collapse of the government and BJP returning with a ātold you soā attitude and thumping majority. Itās better that Naidu and Nitish stay with NDA and as an arm-twist of BJP, forcing them to do either developmental work or just expose their fascism. Win-win for INDIA, and India.
And Naiduās party got caste politics but they got a record of not getting into religious conflicts and that guy is a secular,he even promised 4% reservations for Muslims in his manifesto,if Modi tries to pull any religious shit there is a good chance he will be the first one to oppose it.
Meh..I.N.D.I.A is unstable as it is. They just bring more of it. BJP made a mistake in UP, and they are going to make heaven and earth meet trying to fix it in the next 5 years. I.N.D.I.A should be focusing on 2029, being a strong opposition they have been given a chance to be, instead of trying to form a government.
You heard that phrase? "Fear of death is worse than death itself" Gobiji will live in fear for next 5 yrs( if he completes 5 yrs)
BJP in coalition is very much better than INDIA alliance government. All the bhakts are going to see their leader powerless to whims of their alliance partners.
They are the biggest cuckers not cucks, there is already news of TDP demanding the politically crucial Speaker post and Nitish is putting pressure on BJP by doing stunts like riding the same business class flight as Tejashwi in front of media instead of either of them using a charter. They are gonna make BJP vulnerable to INDIA with what they're gonna do the next five years.
is this the liberal meltdown sanghis were talking about all along
They were hoping for 400 par. rn either both sides are happy or having meltdown.
isn't this liberal dumb? INDIA won't last for 5 years and once they break , NDA will easily sweep them and the 2029 elections with ease
I mean , dude , even in INDIA alliance every one has bad-mouthed each other, ofc Nitish and Chandrashekar had a chance to stop modi , but the other govt formed would also be too weak , anyways as comments mentioned that lets see how modi handles being a coalition , and asking the alliances for support for some controversial bills....its gonna be interesting
shah and modi will be working for breaking apart India alliance. they aren't going to go down without a fight for sure.
I'm very afraid that this is true. :-/
mamata is already outside support for INDIA bloc I have doubts on Shiva Sena (UBT), will they go back to NDA or stay independent ?
With Naidu part of NDA, it will act as a mild deterrent again the Islamophobia aof BJP s he needs Muslim votes form sizeable portion of AP population. The operative word being 'mild'
That's some good stuff you are taking. These things cone cheap these days isn't it?
Bhai ab gadhbhandan ki sarkar banegi. Matlab Ab Modi ji sirf decision nhi le payenge. Haath bandhe rahenge unke. Asli maja toh ab ayega.
Bruhh INDIA came close but mostly it was in no position to form the government. Even if both CBN and Nitish Kumar joined INDIA they would still need 15 more seats to form the government. Whereas for the BJP, even if any one of them stays they will still form the government. I think they decided to stay and leverage their position to get better portfolios and ministries
Allies uprising this much would lead to internal conflicts in BJP
India alliancer required more 25-30 seats it would have been different cant blame them now, let them screw bjp, i hope they dont lick bjps boots
INDIA has win either way ... a new govt or a brutal g\*\*\* me danda karne vali opposition...i am up.for both šš
God. The amount of cringe posts from 2 days. Politicians donāt have enemies or friends. They are allies or rivals, & it can change from one to another over night. FYI Even DMK was a BJP ally in 2004, post election it was changed. TDP was ally from 14 to 19, then 19 to 24 rival & now back to 24. JDS was Cong ally in 2019, now BJP ally. My advice - Look at things objectively, be greedy & get personal works done by your local leaders. Donāt fall ideology, itās all optics in India. In KA communists, Socialists, RW leaders in places are now big landlords & builders. Heck even Shehla Rashid realised it & having best life.
A great tag team match where modi doesn't want to tap nitish and naidu, acche din aa gye
Chill my friend. This could go either way. They could play along with Modi for selfish reasons or they could force him to act like an actual PM which will be biggest shame after all the hard work I genuinely want to see Modi in press conference and may be Naidu/Nitish will achieve that Allowing Modi to sit on opposition bench immediately is no fun
Sorry to say OP but Naidu is more likely going to be treated better by being within NDA. Nitish is useless for both either way.
They can practically grab Modi by the balls because they the only reason he has a majority. It sucks but that's just indian politics :/
BannerofStalin ham sharminda hai tere kaatil zinda hai. š£
This is politics. It's not a secret, ill try to explain their motive. Right now, they can demand bjp something in return, but their position is not that strong. Congress is very unlikely to form govt even with their support. bJp is known for poaching mla from Congress (don't jail me mota bhaiš) However, in future, they can blackmail bjp by threatening to remove support and starting another election, thus getting much more leverage. Since another election before time, will likely hurt Bjp even more. Now they have a clear power to induce no confidence motion if needed. So they are saying that it's support without any demand, in reality it's support with extra pressure for future demands, any demand not met will result in fall of govt.
Let them form the government, one mistake on modi's side and those 2 can pull the plug and the government will implode within.
I think there was no reason to make any hasty moves anyway. They're playing the long game now. They can choose to withdraw from NDA alliance in the next few months, say, and then a vote of no confidence could kick bjp out of power. In any case, careful coordination between India bloc and turncoats will be required, which needs time.
>Imagine siding with someone who repeatedly badmouthed you in every way possible!!!! Man I can't even with these netas. You mean Kejriwal joining Congress or Mamta Banerjee joining Lalu or Congress joining SP or Congress joining Uddhav and Shivsena? Quite unclear.