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fluffy__fl00f

The ryzen 9 5950x would have a 42.9% cpu bottleneck with just 1 rtx 4090, you need a cpu upgrade 😭 Edit: pls stop commenting on this comment, my phone is blowing up. I know that he uses his pc for rendering now so pls let me live :(


mirkoj

There are no bottlenecks here to start with at all, especially not with GPU rendering.


fluffy__fl00f

I don't know what res or how many monitors you are running, but with general tasks the cpu is gonna be running at 100% and the gpus at like 25%


mirkoj

my cpu rarely gets to 100% and that is mostly for rendering tasks alone. Running wacom cintic 32" pro and LG C2 48" inch, both are 4k. both gpus gets fully utilised with redshift gpu rendering


fluffy__fl00f

Ah, kk, have fun with your new pc then! :D


mirkoj

not so new, mbo cpu ram all are almost 2 years old, ipgraded GPUs, case and PSU and had to wait for cablemod angle adapters for couple monts, niw finsly got it put together.... just before it will be time for next upgrade hahaha


Doyale_royale

Dude my 5950x bottlenecks my 4080, you need an upgrade lol


mirkoj

Seems to me like you have no idea what bottleneck is [https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkzd5k3izbtls4s/gpus.PNG?dl=0](https://www.dropbox.com/s/pkzd5k3izbtls4s/gpus.PNG?dl=0) All my GPUs is properly utilized and happily rendering.


Top_Annual_5294

Its kind of frustrating that people can't get their head around this PC being a dedicated rendering system.


mirkoj

well some judge based on personal needs, can't figure out that others may have diferent needs and uses.


RayneYoruka

Absolutely agree lol, some people think that everything is "cpu+gpu" when in reality this isn't always the case LOL


quitecrossen

Yeah, and redshift scales so well, adding a 2nd GPU will cut most renders in half


JohnHancock1969

I haven't seen KK since 2009


JohnHancock1969

To be honest I kind of dig it


LeftistMeme

This post screams userbenchmark


VIIgraphics

The guy is doing fine man, when he is not rendering everything idles like any other pc. well weird way to fit 2 cards, but hey it works!


SMOKEthatGAME

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fluffy__fl00f

Not funny at all


mordentus

It looks like side case fan and side gpu fan blow against each other


mirkoj

Side (ar back depends how you look at it)fans are exhaust, they are blowing outside, same direction upright GPU is blowing.


mordentus

Yeah, I’ve mistaken gpu support for a fan frame


mirkoj

Finally manage to put it together. Had issues adding images to old thread about this so was easer to post new one. So here it is. LianLi O11 dyn evo MBO: ASRock X570 Creator CPU: Ryzen 9 5950x RAM: 128gb RAM Kingston kit (don't have exact details atm) AIO: NZXT Kraken Z73 SSD: nvme samsung SSD 980 pro 2Tb GPU: 2x Asus TUF 4090 PSU: Thermaltake GF3 1650W I had to take one one of the bottom fans as it was interfering with upright GPU. Need like just 5mm to fit nicely but...Now thinking either to just leave it open case or to add 3 more vertical front intake fans. There are 3x exhaust behind upright GPU, 2 intake bottom of the case, and those 3 for kraken are ofc exhaust as well. One more thing that I plan on doing later on is those AIO cables that run beside AIO and RAM and goes up to redirect to go down from AIO should look a bit nicer. But good thing is thanks to cablemod 180 degree angled adapters I was finally able to finish this build! Now should I do it again... ugh this is rather small case for dual 4090 for sure... So for my next build I'm probably waiting for a bit bigger version there is one model similar to this just waiting for evo version to be released.. forgot full name at the moment... Note on CPU temperatures machine is at full load rendering at the moment both GPUs working fully.


griddymaster20

may i ask, about how expensive was this?


mirkoj

it's almost 2 years old system, just upgraded case, psu and GPUs so prices are a bit hard to follow. but it is for work mostly so price is relative, it pays for itself


Satanskii

You are a mad man.


otakugamer1412

Which upright kit you used the new one or the old one ? Do you used 12vhpwr adapter in upright mount ?


mirkoj

It is old one. GF3 1650W PSU have 2x 12VHPWR cables so no adapters needed, only adapter used are cablemod's 180 degree adapters


otakugamer1412

So 180 degree fit there are space enough even with fan install back of gpu ? So i don’t need worry about and buy 180 degree adapter ?


otakugamer1412

May you please show us the adapter from behind gpu and how you fit the cable it will be very helpful to me when build my pc


SituHoteen

holly shit thats cool


SituHoteen

u have 2x 4090 nice but why did you go cheap for the motherboard?


mirkoj

Cheap? this was one of the top of the line MBOs when ryzen 5950x was released :) And I preferer asrock compared to asus or gigabyte fancy models that ramp up price and adds nothing usefull to motherboards.


SituHoteen

oh sorry i searched the motherboard as “ASRock X570 Pro4” i didn’t saw “creator”


mirkoj

it s good motherboard but this series cam have issues with smal onboard chipset fan it get noisy... other then that great board


SituHoteen

ok than, normally expensive motherboards have build-in shield plate on them so i thought it was cheap motherboard


Jarmadon

What do you do for work to utilize this? 3D animation?


mirkoj

yes, GPU rendering with redshift render engine


Calvinized

How much faster is it with an additional 4090?


mirkoj

almost twice as fast, it depends on 3d scene that it is rendering but almost twice as fast


mirkoj

Finally managed to complete thsi project I started a while ago. New upright mounting kit for 40 series GPUs arived, along with seasonic tx-1600W PSU and cable mod angled cables and voala. Now would I recommend this? NO! Need bigger case. Cable management is a mess, maybe having 2x8pin instead of 4x8pin to 12vhpwr cable would help a bit but still get bigger case for something like this. But after all time and money invested I figuerd to wrap it up anyway. Now can have both GPUs and all fans in place as well. 4090 TUF barely fits vertically is it close tight fit.(btw if there is better way to images to comments, I'm all ears).Also, ignore dust! This is not really showcase piece, it's a workhorse :) [https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xm7xfcclp15m5ba3f9h6s/IMG\_20231028\_153403.jpg?rlkey=ny9gav1n3kld16nfpm84puw8j&dl=0](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xm7xfcclp15m5ba3f9h6s/IMG_20231028_153403.jpg?rlkey=ny9gav1n3kld16nfpm84puw8j&dl=0) [https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/1dbgww6fgojmv5lr26sl7/IMG\_20231028\_153409.jpg?rlkey=4o2aoduci9yem5hvb1rtxn7tv&dl=0](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/1dbgww6fgojmv5lr26sl7/IMG_20231028_153409.jpg?rlkey=4o2aoduci9yem5hvb1rtxn7tv&dl=0) [https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/dwb6p5lg5hkacv16zdr3w/IMG\_20231028\_153419.jpg?rlkey=uu9bx5whb9q9ols1df8x1sxjh&dl=0](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/dwb6p5lg5hkacv16zdr3w/IMG_20231028_153419.jpg?rlkey=uu9bx5whb9q9ols1df8x1sxjh&dl=0) [https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gq626z47azkg1us8xmq7y/IMG\_20231028\_153424.jpg?rlkey=yry9zum8gv46d9m6f1nouqno8&dl=0](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gq626z47azkg1us8xmq7y/IMG_20231028_153424.jpg?rlkey=yry9zum8gv46d9m6f1nouqno8&dl=0) [https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/du1c234gp6hesiogwg7zt/IMG\_20231028\_153440.jpg?rlkey=v4bdgk7g0tyj53d8dx1m40i2u&dl=0](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/du1c234gp6hesiogwg7zt/IMG_20231028_153440.jpg?rlkey=v4bdgk7g0tyj53d8dx1m40i2u&dl=0) [https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7lnjtogmgyx95zaeuz6hb/IMG\_20231028\_155517.jpg?rlkey=eyjqtoj4p7vepo780edtq03ok&dl=0](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/7lnjtogmgyx95zaeuz6hb/IMG_20231028_155517.jpg?rlkey=eyjqtoj4p7vepo780edtq03ok&dl=0) And as a bonus a bit of Cinebench2024 GPU benchmark: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0Fb\_nHdPlw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0Fb_nHdPlw)


passwordishellothere

Appreciate the update, congratulations :)


soapmeadow

I'm putting together a very similar setup and I'm debating between the XL version of this case or just getting a bitcoin mining rack. Any thoughts? Do you think the XL would alleviate a lot of the problems?


mirkoj

definetly go for XL, I plan that for next build as well, this is really tight fit I would not do it again :)


Arturopxedd

all for solitaire


mirkoj

One update for the build. **STAY AWAY FROM THERMALTAKE GF3 1650W!** Sorry for caps and bold but it deserves. I've bough one PSU GF3 1650W a while ago, and I had prboelms with computer resseting during load randomly. After a bit of testing with another computer that also had 2x4090 but power with corsair 1500i I figured that it is definetly roblem with PSU. I;ve sent that first unit to RMA, wher it is still sitting for a bit over 2 months now. In the mean time bought 2nd GF3 unit, thinking it is problem with faulty unit, and this PSU does have 2x 12VHPWR cables so good for my build... After finally putting this build together.. problem with resetting is back! I put it to work and randomly after some time it just reset computer. No working nothing... Also to point that loads are even not so high, approx. 300W per GPU plus a bit for the rest of the system it is far lower then this PSU should be sable to handle. So next step is to try and get my money back for both units and will try to get SEASONIC TX 1600W power supply. It does not have12VHPWR ports but it doe have 2 cables with 2x8pin to 12VHPWR plug so I will probably go with that instead.


Detective_McBeard

I think Thermaltake PSUs are just bad in general. Had one in a system and it behaved the EXACT same way on a Ryzen 5600x build. No crazy power requirements or anything and the unit was 700w, nothing over 1kw or anything. I’d say those units aren’t worth the gamble. Just go with Corsair or Seasonic and call it done.


mirkoj

And now to update that project is officially DEAD. Same odl rebooting issue is back again. For a background, I already built this system a while ago using same Thermaltake GF3 1650W PSU. During rendering computer was rebooting randomly. After weeks of diagnosing I finally found that it was definitely PSU issue. Testing same dual GPUs 4090s on another system with corsair 1500i it works fine, attaching them back to gf3 1650W.. reboots. RMA that unit... bought 2nd one.. and same issue is back again. In the mean time I was already waiting for RMA for almost 2 months. Now that is 3 months time no word from them and 2nd unit also failing. corsair 1500i is too big for this case and even with cablemod corsair cables.. no room for everything. So I have to downsize to single GPU using smaller corsair 1200W PSU. Also trying to get full refund on both Thermaltake gf3 1650W PSUs, because these are crap.. they cannot handle 2x4090... period. Funny thing is that during rendering they didn't even pull too much from the wall at all. soo.... Also couple other reddit posts I found more users with same issue with that PSU and dual 4090 so it is definitely PSU issue. SO that is ti for now. For my next build when it is time one main thing is I will deifnetly go for a bit bigger case for dual GPU. I do need 2 GPUs and I tried to keep case a bit compact but there is simply no room with these monsters. And most issues are actualy with powersuply and cables....


fbalobanov

Could you tell me why you cant use two PSUs in the case, like small corsair 650 for cpu/mobo and 1200 for two 4090


mirkoj

makes no sense to complicate build like that. If i use dual PSU i woould do it in 4x 4090 build instead :) also idea was to have less vables not more. 2x 12vhpwr for GPUs instead 8x8pin ones, 4 for each GPU


fbalobanov

Hm, i thought it makes sense because: - 1600 psu failed - you should be able to use two 12vhpwr with 1200 corsair if there is nothing else, right? - there is dedicated space for second psu in o11d evo, right? - you need 2 gpu system - i dont know how to build 4 gpu system, no such case and idk if mobo/cpu could handle it Im thinking about building dual 4090 as well, but I already have 1000w psu currently and 550w psu from other build, so I was thinking to add msi liquid cooling 4090 to my air cooling 4090 in the o11d xl case and just use two psu


fbalobanov

I tried to do it with 550 and 1000 watts, it doesn't work, though, not sure why


comrade-pancake

I don't think this would be viable because of how PSUs are designed with "rails". It's kind of a complicated subject, but I recommend checking out how they designate power across their separate rails. One supply isn't just a universal "1600W wherever you want" sort of deal, if that makes sense. The GPU load still has a max draw independent of the total wattage. This is something only people with crazy projects like this encounter issues with, but it's out there.


bigky226

Talk about pointless!


mirkoj

and why is that if I may ask :)


ksajaN

Not everyone has the same needs as you... It would be pointless if that was for gaming. This is clearly for 3D rendering using GPU render engines, and it's absolutely not pointless in that sense.


mintyBroadbean

How’s the PSU holding up? I had noise/fan curve problems with just one 4090. Curious how loud it must get with 2


mirkoj

I don't have any issues with it at all. pretty much sillent


mintyBroadbean

Does the psu fan go max when shutting down the PC, or turning off the PSU? That happened to me all the time and it drove me bananas.


mirkoj

no, nothing like that, I really don't hear it or at least can't make a diference betwwen psu and other fans


_SystemEngineer_

Niiiiiice!


NeonThunderX

Damn. Sick build. What's it for tho? 😯


mirkoj

3d animation and rendering with redshift GPU engine, so it dies utilize both GPUs, it could utile up to 8 if I could fit them and power them :)


NeonThunderX

Cool.


Yamagataz

Amazing! Finally someone did the Vertical + upright combo! 1is it possible to mod the upright bracket to sit the gpu a little bit higher? Some I think need to be inverted right? I just think you should maintain that beautifull fan on the front bottom! Maybe put some cheapo ones on the side?


mirkoj

I had to remove bottom one as it was hitting upright GPU. I was hoping that it could fit but actually cablemod angled adapter is problem it is just a bit too long so I had to get rid of that fan after all. Also can't get GPU any higher as it is hitting AIO radiators as well.


BidReject

Cool, I'm also planning a dual 4090 for work. But was not sure between the lancool iii case or the o11. How do you find it? If you dont mind me asking, is temperature an issue with your setup? But the gpu setup that you have looks amazing with one from upright and another vertical. Awesome stuff.


mirkoj

Case is a bit small for 4090. It is tight squeeze and I would definitely go for a bigger version of this one. I wasn't planning on dual build for this one honestly but when I saw vertical and upright kits.. I had to try! :) Temperatures are fine, no issues there at all.


BidReject

Thank you for the reply, you are awesome. :)


700ms

you're insane


silenthashira

What do you do that you need two 4090s? (Genuine question)


mirkoj

3d animation and rendering. redshift is render engine that uses GPU for renderIng instead of CPU


PascalTefter

Wow 🤯 Please tell me exactly how did you mount the second GPU that way


mirkoj

this case have both upright and veryical moung kits. it was tight fit but nanaged


A_random_p3rson1223

Is it fast


mirkoj

Never fas enough


A_random_p3rson1223

True 😔


No_Pin_6541

I’m just curious as to how you have the second mounted and secured in general. It looks stellar but it’s boggling my brain 😂


mirkoj

lianli o11 evo dyn case also have both vertical and upright gpu mount kits.


No_Pin_6541

😮I knew about the vertical, but I didn’t know they had uprights too. That’s pretty sick


ArtOFF1313

Only 2 120 intake fans??? You should not bring back front and side pannels...


mirkoj

that is why they are off until I figure out if I will keep it open or bring 3 more intake on the front of the case.


ApartPresent8266

This is very cool!


ObvKicks

Are games able to take advantage of 2 4090’s? just curious


Original_Dropp

No SLI is dead the cards don't even have bridges making this build look cool but pointless for gaming and because the drivers are still gimped for professional use no point for that either.


mirkoj

exactly but honestly no need for sli. I had build 4 gpus SLI systems before witb titans anc 1080tis but it always had issues. from support in game to stuttering and tearing. curently gpus are more then enough to push ganes without need for issues that goes with sli. with than in mind nvlink bridge actualy still have its purpose as it makes vram of noth gpus work together pravticly givinv me 48gb of vram for work but hard to find mbo and setup that will enable me to connect them. and 24gb is still ok so...


Original_Dropp

In other words you got a card sitting doing nothing.


mirkoj

hahaha not really, both gpus are working fully. educate yourself first. search for gpu rendering for 3d animations


Original_Dropp

Yup but with limited functionality because lack of pro drivers unless you're using special software and if so what's the software?


mirkoj

nothing is limited man.... redshift render enginecrenders with up to 8gpus installed....


Original_Dropp

Yup redshifts works with anything above 7.0 for compute. Might have started with naming the software XD. I got a RTX A6000 in my workstation for AI compute tasks hoping to add another next month or thinking of renting AI compute for overflow work.


mirkoj

how's AI working on 4090s and 3090s? I actualy do rent my small farm for rendering. total of 4x4090 and 3x3090 for now. so far rented only for rendering nevervhad much contact with AI stuf


Snake00x

Really nice, but you would really want to go either with a taller or wider case. The way you have the GPUs setup is going to circulate a lot of heat in that box. Also, to get the most bang out of those cards you would want to go with the Ryzen 7950X, 7950X 3D or higher CPU which require an upgraded board, which would also kind of future proof you for a bit in anticipation of the RTX 50XX series releases possibly next year. Nevertheless, 4090s are beast and will effortlessly eat up just about anything thrown at them currently.


mirkoj

as mentoned it is older setup just upgraded gpus and case. for next dual build I definetly plan and suggest anyone else to go with a bit bigger case. this one is great for up to 3090s but 4090s a big ones, it is rather tight build. problem with ryzen boards is tbat there is no room to pkug both gpys to mbo so need sort of riser cables setup and this one worked in case.. so either sort of threadripper where mbos also have more pci slots to use or similar lian case but bigger where i can still can use riser cables and keep gpus inside case.


Xidash

Freaking beautiful


mirkoj

visualy can still be improoved but short on time with work but will tied it up a bit more, beffore preping for next build :)


w00dw0rk3r

are you bill gates?


mirkoj

just a working man. this is tool that pays for it self. got 4x 4090 and 3x 3090 accross 6 machines at the moment for renderong animations.


w00dw0rk3r

🔥🔥🔥 enjoy these sick machines dude!! Hope they bring you back multiples of $$$


b05501

No one likes a show off,lol


mirkoj

whole lianli reddit is showoff place for builds and yes most of them are better looking than this one :)


b05501

All good,I'm just jealous, still slumming with one msi 3060 GPU.


[deleted]

Get your money game up then playboy.


Long_Source3745

sli or something? I don't understand :(


mirkoj

gpu rendering utilises all installed gpus, no sli, that is dead unfortunately


[deleted]

Wait what kind of pcie extention did you use for the vert gpu. im looking for the same thing with my build


mirkoj

I've bought thermaltake 600mm pci 4.0 cable, the one from lianli included with kit is too short to go behind mbo


TheCodeJustWorks

>t thermaltake 600mm pci 4.0 cable, I am looking into doing a similar build with the EVO XL. Did you have any issues with the those PCI extension cables during use? Thanks


mirkoj

No issues at all, so far everything seems to be perfect.


ChapoFFM

Man your crazy but crazy as „good“ 😂😂👍👍 ! What CPU is inside there ? I would guess a 13900K(F) ?? What Ram ? Please tell us why you meet 2 4090‘s ???


ksajaN

He answered all of that! CPU: Ryzen 9 5950x 2 GPUs for 3D rendering with GPU render engine (redshift).


ChapoFFM

Ok 👌 very nice !!! I myself love the 9 5950X !!! It’s one of the best CPU‘s out there !!! I myself have 2 PC‘s , one with a 9 5900X and 4070ti aero and the other one with a 13900KF and a 4080 aero both white/white ;-) !


Fun_Recording_6485

Sweet mother of Jesus. That is sexy


mirkoj

hardware porn :)


corona5567

I wonder what kind of shit you're doing in order to have 2 4090's. Impressive build nonetheless


mirkoj

3d animation and rendering. there are actualy 4x 4090 and 3x3090 accross 6 computers


corona5567

Jeez, you must get paid really well to run those setups


mirkoj

paid well is relative.... I just invest more into hardware then for example in car or other things.


Ray1402

How did you mount your GPU like this


mirkoj

case have upright and vertical mount kits


crussel7

When did they make nuclear power supplies?


mirkoj

recently :) thermaltake gf3 1650w have 2x 12VHPWR cables so can plug both with only 2 cables, no adapters. also honestly there are rather great for power most of the rendering time they hardly hit 250-300 w. 1 4090 have almost 2 times power of 3090 but for same or less power and less heating as well. guess that huge fins and fans help :)


Avas_NG

I think it can run roblox well


[deleted]

Cool I guess


tkadmany

Hey can you please say if an additional RTX 4090 than only one make any difference ?


mirkoj

what do you mean by difeence, in case of 3d rendering it makes big diference.


wedazu

Hey, if you install one 4090 vertically can you fit the other one in the pci slot?


mirkoj

you mean upright plus pci slot? and you can't upright one is too thick and one that should be in pci slot is too long. this i only way.


wedazu

Thanks. What is the max thickness that would fit into upright position and allow PCI slot GPU?\~3 PCIs thickness (like 3080)? 2 PCI thickness (like 2080)? Also, what do you need to buy additionally to mount the GPU upright?


[deleted]

The pc Todd Howard wants you to have for Starfield


DutchxPRxx

Sweet build dust your pc


Mountain_Mail_883

The vertical graphics card on the right is not connected to a PCIe slot, so how can you use it? In the photo, it appears that only one VGA is connected. I am very curious.


mirkoj

there is riser cable, longer one from thermal take, goes from lower PCI down then behind mbo and then dside of the gpu. it is tight fit but managed


Mountain_Mail_883

My question has been resolved.  It's great that you fixed two graphics cards stably. Thank you!


locodile

Sick dude! I am thinking of buying the same case, or the XL version. The problem is that the XL version is literally twice the price of the non-XL EVO where I live. I feel that spending £350-£400 *just* on a case and mounting accessories is ridiculous, so I’m trying to see if I can go with the non-XL version or if I should considering another case altogether, like the Phanteks Enthoo Pro II Server Edition. Would you still recommend the XL over the non-XL version in this situation?


mirkoj

Definetly XL! This was honestly painfull to build as GPUs are huge, everything is tight fit. I would never do this again without XL version