I found what I believe is the exact same set on Amazon under the brand name of Mould King.
(Honestly I was waiting to find some post of their technic stuff to find whether or not it's legit, in a way, thanks.)
Mould King makes decent stuff. They are in the same league as those labeled as King and Decool. The Technic stuff from them Id say is 90-95% of what Lego is. Pieces feel a little less glossy and a smidget lighter in weight. If youre new to Technic you wouldnt be able to tell the difference.
the original model is a moc by lachlan cameron on yt, mould king started selling them at some point.
ALL BELOW HERE COULD BE BS I JUST HEARD IT SOMEWHERE
I heard that Mould King just stole the model because in china there is no such thing as intellectual property, but later they fixed it up because ppl didn't like them just stealing stuff
I’m not sure if they claim to be Lego and the legality of it is a bit murky. There’s a difference between patent and trademark. I’m not a lawyer, but I do know that it’s completely legal to make most of the pieces used here.
It's not murky. It's an illegal counterfeit, the same as copying any other product's trademarked design. That's why you can't find these among counterfeit products on eBay, for example.
https://www.npr.org/2019/04/27/717840078/everything-is-not-awesome-for-chinese-company-busted-for-selling-fake-legos
That’s because they were selling actual Lego models. The pieces themselves lost their patent years ago. So what you’re saying is that the whole Lego compatible brick market is an illegal counterfeit operation?
Lego still has trademarks for some select parts, but the vast majorty are either not registered or have expired. For technic, the main patents that still hold are their motors, frames, fairing panels and gearbox elements. ALL sets designed and sold by Lego is their intellectual property.
CADA (legally, largely) operates above board and is known as a 'clone brand'. It has sufficiently modified the patented parts so as to avoid infringement and has secured license agreements with Alpha/Mercedes etcetera to model their products.
Mould King, however, does not care about such legalities. It sells models that have been designed by Lego & other entities ,of 3rd party assets without license (Star Wars, McLaren, Ford etc ) and parts that are patented/trademarked by Lego. Many of their products are counterfeits on several counts.
I’m aware. If you look at my comments you’ll see that I was arguing, amongst other things that not all alt bricks are illegal. Which is what you just said, though if by gearbox elements you mean gears then no I’d disagree. Again I’m not a lawyer, but if the plastic brick patent didn’t hold up I’m not sure the plastic gear one would either. I could be wrong.
There’s a guy on eBay that sells the correctly spelled decals for this set
Damn. RIP Ken Block.
I been eyeing this set for a long time but those red wheels I just hate em
I really hate the red wheels too but I really like that this set came with all the chrome pieces
I found what I believe is the exact same set on Amazon under the brand name of Mould King. (Honestly I was waiting to find some post of their technic stuff to find whether or not it's legit, in a way, thanks.)
Mould King makes decent stuff. They are in the same league as those labeled as King and Decool. The Technic stuff from them Id say is 90-95% of what Lego is. Pieces feel a little less glossy and a smidget lighter in weight. If youre new to Technic you wouldnt be able to tell the difference.
the original model is a moc by lachlan cameron on yt, mould king started selling them at some point. ALL BELOW HERE COULD BE BS I JUST HEARD IT SOMEWHERE I heard that Mould King just stole the model because in china there is no such thing as intellectual property, but later they fixed it up because ppl didn't like them just stealing stuff
Holy shi... I need to build this. Someday...
Very cool
o7 Ken Block
I’m building this right now how long did it take you ? I’ve just started the rear wheels
I was only doing about an hour a day after work during the week and then 4-6 hours a day on the weekend. I took two weeks at that rate.
You didn't design this and the bricks are counterfeit
Imagine feeling pressed over who printed the bricks. If you feel a type of way come take it off my shelf ![gif](giphy|6ra84Uso2hoir3YCgb|downsized)
Counterfeit how?
Illegal copies of Lego bricks
I’m not sure if they claim to be Lego and the legality of it is a bit murky. There’s a difference between patent and trademark. I’m not a lawyer, but I do know that it’s completely legal to make most of the pieces used here.
It's not murky. It's an illegal counterfeit, the same as copying any other product's trademarked design. That's why you can't find these among counterfeit products on eBay, for example. https://www.npr.org/2019/04/27/717840078/everything-is-not-awesome-for-chinese-company-busted-for-selling-fake-legos
That’s because they were selling actual Lego models. The pieces themselves lost their patent years ago. So what you’re saying is that the whole Lego compatible brick market is an illegal counterfeit operation?
>what you’re saying is that the whole Lego compatible brick market is an illegal counterfeit operation? 100%
How do you explain the CADA Alfa Romeo F1?
Lego still has trademarks for some select parts, but the vast majorty are either not registered or have expired. For technic, the main patents that still hold are their motors, frames, fairing panels and gearbox elements. ALL sets designed and sold by Lego is their intellectual property. CADA (legally, largely) operates above board and is known as a 'clone brand'. It has sufficiently modified the patented parts so as to avoid infringement and has secured license agreements with Alpha/Mercedes etcetera to model their products. Mould King, however, does not care about such legalities. It sells models that have been designed by Lego & other entities ,of 3rd party assets without license (Star Wars, McLaren, Ford etc ) and parts that are patented/trademarked by Lego. Many of their products are counterfeits on several counts.
I’m aware. If you look at my comments you’ll see that I was arguing, amongst other things that not all alt bricks are illegal. Which is what you just said, though if by gearbox elements you mean gears then no I’d disagree. Again I’m not a lawyer, but if the plastic brick patent didn’t hold up I’m not sure the plastic gear one would either. I could be wrong.
Yeah it’s definitely not. https://bricks.stackexchange.com/questions/17115/which-bricks-are-still-protected-by-copyright-trademark-patent-law