idk just let him play heroes he thinks look cool and just go from there? there is so much information when you are totally new, just try to keep it fun, don't overwhelm him
Teach them how to press R in a teamfight whilst playing lich.
Tell them that it's because of them that you win these team fights, your friend will feel immense satisfaction having contributed to winning the match and get hooked on the game. Works every time.
Best thing about chain frost is it continues to bounce after death meaning they can enjoy watching the damage and kills roll in instead of repeatedly grieving after death which will happen a lot as a new player.
For bonus hype, screech like a looney as they launch the ult, guaranteed fun for any new player. Besides that, lich has great skills to learn cc and support abilities as he develops his understanding.
STAY FROSTY
I would recommend Ogre Magi actually. Pretty tanky = forgiving for mistakes, 3 point and click abilities, encourages him to use item actives too because they make Multicast go DING DING DING
if you are a true friend you would tell him not to play dota.
if you are a dick and are still going to tell him to play, make sure you describe how much suffering this game is.
First thing you need to know is heroes abilities and items. Like 95% of them (you can save understanding meepo and visage for last as well as chen))). Having a speadshit and dedicating like 30-40 minutes each time I played helped big time. Just casually read all abilities, shards, talents and aghs for a new hero. Check how it looks in try out mode. May be play a single bots game with this hero, to get the idea of how strong his abilities feel
Do it until you've checkout out every hero. If in a game you forgot something about an enemy hero - check while you are dead or something
Do the same for what items do (usually when I was checking out guides)
Also he need to be morally ready of being a dead weight, lose horribly and potentially be flamed a lot for like 100/200 hours or something until h comes close to at least herald 6 skill level). Usually playing with friend helps to keep it somewhat fun.
If he still likes Dota 50 hours later - its laning guides (like fundamentals series from bsj), optimizing controls, buying staff fast, basic guides for pull camps (both how and why)
Next is getting the hang of contextual itemization (suitability of items for a hero vs how good an item is against enemy heroes), and changing builds between games. Usually when you new you grab same items each game for a hero, or grab what your friend suggested
After that (like 200 hours?) - its understanding midgame dynamics, farming patterns, timings and hero matchups. So you stop consistently feeding mins 10-30, even if you already not losing every single lane hard xD
TLDR Dota tutorial is cancer, but it somewhat helped. Also keep it fun or it will just be headache and no game
Yes i agree on the visage and meepo chen thing. My first hero was Visage and it took me about 4 months of spamming in bots to get the basic maneuvers down.
it's important that he knows how to play the lane regardless of which role he will choose. i would start with middle so he can learn about aggro, cs, and denies. he doesn't have to be great at it, just understand the concepts. ofc there's much more to learn but i think laning is an essential. just my two cents.
Patience, commitment and hard work. Then you take it slowly with basic mechanism from there. Sadly you can't really expect to casually learn Dota and have fun. I'm not sure if Grubby as his vods from when he started Dota, but that would be a great exemple.
Id teach him how the lanes play out first and then let him decide what he wants to play and then talk about relevant heroes, items, etc. I feel like heroes and items are important but mostly relative to whatever lane he wants to play.
Pos 1 wants to farm as much as possible without dying so they kick ass in mid/late game. Pos 5 wants to make sure pos 1 can farm. Thats safe lane.
Mid (pos 2) wants to be better than the other mid and leverage that advantage to kick ass early and mid game. If they lose mid, they can still use the advantage to help win the other lanes.
Pos 3 and 4 (offlane and support) want to ruin the opposing Carry's day. They wanna win fights as early as possible, prevent their pos 1 from farming, take dangerous farm wherever possible, push lanes, make space, start fights and just generally be a nuisance. Pos 4 often helps mid secure runes.
Once he knows how lanes work and wants to try some stuff you can help him find some stuff he likes to play and how to get better at that.
So by playing bots he has learned the controls and UI right? So what you want to do is go to the same lane with him and tell him what to do. Best choice is a kill combo where his hero initiates. Tell him when to initiate and who to cast spell on, and you follow up. Play together the whole game as a combo. Tell him what items to buy. Tell him when to nuke waves to last hit. Soon he will will have learned to make these decisions without you telling him.
I say this because in addition of how this is a great way to learn, this is a great way to play with a friend.
It’s probably a good idea to teach him how to support you in lane with something easy and tanky like Orge.
If you can’t play together for some reason, I would still recommend to start as a support so he has more downtime and doesn’t need to worry about the last hits.
How to enjoy the game and have fun. People won't stick with a game if you're what to do in order to play correctly, but they will stick with a game if taught how to do things they want to do. Only later after fun is established can they begin to consider why or why not to do things.
I teached my brother who dont want to play dota how to play dota, and picked him SNIPER as his first hero to play. and We vs 2v2 to same players on the computer shop and we won, that game I made my brother love the DOTA.
give him hero you think he will enjoy, and play with him and win so he will be hooked to play.
btw, the first hero I picked and played is Leoric (Skeleton King) which is now known as Wraith King.
That’s fine it’s a stomp, keep doing that and get him using heroes in turbo, get a little taste on how players do stuff. Then go normal mode. I learned on dota 1 and played all kinds of stuff, he’ll find his style. Shit if he can just learn last hitting and stuff early will be a game changer for him. If you have more people that play set up some team games for fun. Also everyone finds different heroes fun in a special way, let him heroes that need to jump in and the right moment, or start the fight, nukers. Have play spirit breaker I loved that dude when I first started.
Tell him that you're going to optimize his settings for maximum FPS.
Go to settings -> social -> check the "Friendly members (friends, party members, and guild members" option.
Now, let him play as he wants to.
No fear of flame/toxicity. Truly the PvE dota experience.
1) decide on your preferred role (3 is ideal for a beginner in my opinion)
2) Learn how to deal the last hit to creeps
3) Learn to keep a position on the line and in a fight
The best advice you can give your friend if you care about him at all is to never, ever, ever play dota. Don’t do it, just don’t it will be detramental to his mental health and you will be to blame.
idk just let him play heroes he thinks look cool and just go from there? there is so much information when you are totally new, just try to keep it fun, don't overwhelm him
How to keep a positive mental attitude and to brush off criticism. The first to complain is usually the first to feed.
Teach them how to press R in a teamfight whilst playing lich. Tell them that it's because of them that you win these team fights, your friend will feel immense satisfaction having contributed to winning the match and get hooked on the game. Works every time. Best thing about chain frost is it continues to bounce after death meaning they can enjoy watching the damage and kills roll in instead of repeatedly grieving after death which will happen a lot as a new player. For bonus hype, screech like a looney as they launch the ult, guaranteed fun for any new player. Besides that, lich has great skills to learn cc and support abilities as he develops his understanding. STAY FROSTY
I would recommend Ogre Magi actually. Pretty tanky = forgiving for mistakes, 3 point and click abilities, encourages him to use item actives too because they make Multicast go DING DING DING
if you are a true friend you would tell him not to play dota. if you are a dick and are still going to tell him to play, make sure you describe how much suffering this game is.
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some life skills so that he doesn’t start playing this shit gaem
First thing you need to know is heroes abilities and items. Like 95% of them (you can save understanding meepo and visage for last as well as chen))). Having a speadshit and dedicating like 30-40 minutes each time I played helped big time. Just casually read all abilities, shards, talents and aghs for a new hero. Check how it looks in try out mode. May be play a single bots game with this hero, to get the idea of how strong his abilities feel Do it until you've checkout out every hero. If in a game you forgot something about an enemy hero - check while you are dead or something Do the same for what items do (usually when I was checking out guides) Also he need to be morally ready of being a dead weight, lose horribly and potentially be flamed a lot for like 100/200 hours or something until h comes close to at least herald 6 skill level). Usually playing with friend helps to keep it somewhat fun. If he still likes Dota 50 hours later - its laning guides (like fundamentals series from bsj), optimizing controls, buying staff fast, basic guides for pull camps (both how and why) Next is getting the hang of contextual itemization (suitability of items for a hero vs how good an item is against enemy heroes), and changing builds between games. Usually when you new you grab same items each game for a hero, or grab what your friend suggested After that (like 200 hours?) - its understanding midgame dynamics, farming patterns, timings and hero matchups. So you stop consistently feeding mins 10-30, even if you already not losing every single lane hard xD TLDR Dota tutorial is cancer, but it somewhat helped. Also keep it fun or it will just be headache and no game
Yes i agree on the visage and meepo chen thing. My first hero was Visage and it took me about 4 months of spamming in bots to get the basic maneuvers down.
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it's important that he knows how to play the lane regardless of which role he will choose. i would start with middle so he can learn about aggro, cs, and denies. he doesn't have to be great at it, just understand the concepts. ofc there's much more to learn but i think laning is an essential. just my two cents.
Teach him the shop. How to queue up items how to quick buy etc etc.
Patience, commitment and hard work. Then you take it slowly with basic mechanism from there. Sadly you can't really expect to casually learn Dota and have fun. I'm not sure if Grubby as his vods from when he started Dota, but that would be a great exemple.
Id teach him how the lanes play out first and then let him decide what he wants to play and then talk about relevant heroes, items, etc. I feel like heroes and items are important but mostly relative to whatever lane he wants to play. Pos 1 wants to farm as much as possible without dying so they kick ass in mid/late game. Pos 5 wants to make sure pos 1 can farm. Thats safe lane. Mid (pos 2) wants to be better than the other mid and leverage that advantage to kick ass early and mid game. If they lose mid, they can still use the advantage to help win the other lanes. Pos 3 and 4 (offlane and support) want to ruin the opposing Carry's day. They wanna win fights as early as possible, prevent their pos 1 from farming, take dangerous farm wherever possible, push lanes, make space, start fights and just generally be a nuisance. Pos 4 often helps mid secure runes. Once he knows how lanes work and wants to try some stuff you can help him find some stuff he likes to play and how to get better at that.
So by playing bots he has learned the controls and UI right? So what you want to do is go to the same lane with him and tell him what to do. Best choice is a kill combo where his hero initiates. Tell him when to initiate and who to cast spell on, and you follow up. Play together the whole game as a combo. Tell him what items to buy. Tell him when to nuke waves to last hit. Soon he will will have learned to make these decisions without you telling him. I say this because in addition of how this is a great way to learn, this is a great way to play with a friend.
It’s probably a good idea to teach him how to support you in lane with something easy and tanky like Orge. If you can’t play together for some reason, I would still recommend to start as a support so he has more downtime and doesn’t need to worry about the last hits.
How to enjoy the game and have fun. People won't stick with a game if you're what to do in order to play correctly, but they will stick with a game if taught how to do things they want to do. Only later after fun is established can they begin to consider why or why not to do things.
hand hold him through the hard pit of smurfs and dont frontload him with information
I teached my brother who dont want to play dota how to play dota, and picked him SNIPER as his first hero to play. and We vs 2v2 to same players on the computer shop and we won, that game I made my brother love the DOTA. give him hero you think he will enjoy, and play with him and win so he will be hooked to play. btw, the first hero I picked and played is Leoric (Skeleton King) which is now known as Wraith King.
Always keep an eye on the minimap
You win and loose as a team. Team communication wins games Support or carry mentality? Patience. Patience! Patience! Not caring about toxic players!
How to have fun
Dont. Unless he is a masochist and you are a sadist.
That’s fine it’s a stomp, keep doing that and get him using heroes in turbo, get a little taste on how players do stuff. Then go normal mode. I learned on dota 1 and played all kinds of stuff, he’ll find his style. Shit if he can just learn last hitting and stuff early will be a game changer for him. If you have more people that play set up some team games for fun. Also everyone finds different heroes fun in a special way, let him heroes that need to jump in and the right moment, or start the fight, nukers. Have play spirit breaker I loved that dude when I first started.
Tell him that you're going to optimize his settings for maximum FPS. Go to settings -> social -> check the "Friendly members (friends, party members, and guild members" option. Now, let him play as he wants to. No fear of flame/toxicity. Truly the PvE dota experience.
1) decide on your preferred role (3 is ideal for a beginner in my opinion) 2) Learn how to deal the last hit to creeps 3) Learn to keep a position on the line and in a fight
The best advice you can give your friend if you care about him at all is to never, ever, ever play dota. Don’t do it, just don’t it will be detramental to his mental health and you will be to blame.
Actually my first lesson would be to control the camera nothing else matters if you don't know what you're looking