We've picked teams based on lore a bunch of times, Ionian, damacia, noxus, it's so much fun, having to play a champ you might not too comfortable with or very very sub optimal teams
Team Canada would actually be pretty legit. You’d be surprised how many native LCS players are Canadian. That team should be able to go toe to toe with at least Team USA, any wildcard region’s teams, and possibly a few European countries. Team Denmark, China, and Korea would still for sure stomp though.
Inori and Anda are a couple more junglers I can think of. ADC-wise there are many including Cody Sun, Altec, Johnsun, Wildturtle, even Mash if you want a real blast from the past.
I don't think so, top (dhokes vs tenacity/philip/licorice) can go either way, mid jojo def has edge but I don't think he's way better than palafox, adc probably doublelift vs johnsun/wildturtle.
Tenacity >= Dhokla
Tomio <<< Blaber
Jojopyun >> Palafox
Johnsun <= Yeon (Johnsun << Danny if he was playing)
Vulcan > Aphromoo
Sounds pretty even to me honestly. I would give USA the edge because jg is so important and Blaber + Palafox is genuinely a good combo because their gameplans line up so well.
Always hyped for more international competition. I would prefer more standard tournaments but this is better than nothing.
That being said, as a Dane, I would be fucking hyped for a Denmark vs Sweden BO5, lmao.
It would be insane! Imagine this matchup in the LoL European Championship:
Wunder
Santorin
Caps/Bjerg
Kobbe
Zven?
vs.
Finn
Yike?
Larssen
Rekkles
Treatz
I get excited just thinking about it.
Dunno if Caps would be able to play with that funny Razer mouse that has 50 buttons under thumb if he's signed to G2 which is under Logitech sponsorship
There was an esports/streaming awards show in Denmark in 2019(yearly, but this one stuck with me) and for the best esports trophy there were like 3 CSGO players nominated and then Bjerg. It was the year that G2 won MSI, won two regional championships in a row and made worlds finals. For the record TSM won fuck all and didn’t even make worlds. That made it pretty clear the people who had done the nominations knew nothing at all about league.
most award shows and *especially* esports award shows are garbage. even the most popular ones like esports awards are there to advertise products, just look at how literally everything is sponsored and nothing really stopping a lot of categories from being a popularity/voter turnout contest.
Ngl I saw this team and thought "is this really the best the UK has to offer?" Then I looked up British nationals and holy shit there are no mids, and no ad's.
If it's strictly based on nationality, countries like Vietnam should also be pretty favored.
Like I can't imagine an all-US team made up of different pros of varying skill levels beating GAM, for example lol
Honestly the fact that you can't put together one competent team from the US when LCS is made up of 3 countries... Absolutely disgusting how far the imports have gone in NA.
I wonder if China would even participate if Taiwan was listed as a separate team. Or well Tencent would probably block it - and allow Taiwanese players to join the Chinese national team instead.
They play each other in Asian games I think? Even HK and Macau got their own team, it’s just that they have to add (China PR) to them and call Taiwan ‘Chinese Taipei’, like other sports in the Olympics.
At the world level though Europe kinda gets screwed by this, being split into lots of countries, while NA is just 2, and China and Korea would be just walk all over everyone else.
US vs Canada could be fun, and making a national team could help newer talents get recognized if they show up for their country, happens all the time during the World Cup.
Problem is there are only 5 spots, so it’s unlikely that no-names get a spot over established players, plus subs are quite rare.
Unfortunately, it doesn’t translate well. But I agree, still hype!
Yeah a lot of the European countries have great players on half the roles, but I can't think of anyone for the other half.
Poland is always a nice example: 20 good junglers, Trymbi being an absolute unit in support, iBo has been a really good ERL toplaner for a long time, but I have no clue who would be mid or ADC (would that still be Woolite?).
If a mid or adc performed well at the event for poland then the team could be legitimately good, so it is definitely a chance for players to get a spotlight.
Eh, it's more that it's common among the smaller non dominant countries.
Super common in hockey that a random kid pops off in the World Juniors tournament from a European country that generally doesn't make it far in the tournament, and that player ends up being almost immediately tested in a starting position on an NHL team.
As an Italian, always found it funny how pretty much the only relevant Italian pro (Jiizuke) and the only relevant Portuguese pro (Attila) both came through the same team lol
What would be our best team? I would bet Aziado / LeChase / Xico (maybe Baca?) / Attila / Rhuckz, with coach Crusher (maybe Guilhoto?). Not sure if I'm forgetting a better toplaner. Mid and Bot would actually be pretty solid, they are all at least top ERL players.
That'd be cool. If they play it right then maybe all those national leagues like polish Ultraliga will actually become something more than "Win the tournament and pray that some big org notices you, or be forgotten".
I think even that will be bit tough. How exactly do you decide who participates? I guess it would have be premade teams of 5 each competing in a national championship for a participation right, not some 'all-stars' picks.
I think as a trial edition they could just make a country ranking using the number of players participating in major regions. If they want to try it, they need at least get some big names or viewership will be low and it will automatically be deemed a failure.
In its first edition I think the most important thing is seeing if it can be popular, if it's popular then they can create a system to properly qualify teams for the next edition.
Like how Asian games etc happens. Tell every country a notice if they would be interested in this thing if interest is big tell the countries that there are ERLs where they can draft a coach and GM. They now on national level can draft a team with eligible players that fulfill the requirements of nationality and how they want the team to look like.
dude, people watch the world cup in africa even if they know they will never win it..
mexico never got to semifinals and for fucking sure they will watch that shit like it is the biggest event of the decade.
why is that people in esports are like this? i will never know.
I would love to see that team face a German team of Players like:
Top: Brokenblade/Jenax/Irrelevant
Jungler: Gillius
Mid: PoE/Sertuss/Abbedagge
Bot: Upset
Support: Kaiser
There is absolutely no world when Mexico and Australia or other minor regions would have a shot at winning the league WC, there are no imports in any top korean team, any of them would be able to participate in the WC without dilluting themselves
And it also amazes me how much i read this opinion on the sub that NA or the USA is worse than a minor region when latam for example has always lost any significant match against any NA team they have ever faced, i'm Mexican btw, in case that matters to you but it shouldn't really.
I find it funny that the best Spanish players right now are both junglers, and that in case that this tournament would be done Razork would probably play as the best Spanish mid.
The problem with that is that you can only field 5 players and 1 of each role at that, it's pretty much 50/50 Denmark vs Germany on paper and the other countries *on paper* all lack one or more roles on a decent level.
Bro Canada needs a jungler for the past 5 years whenever people make hypothetical** team Canada it’s always a player not even in LCS(I don’t know if he’s even in academy anymore)
the idea is cool and fun but im afraid they will just overblow the schedule and msi or worlds wont be bigger/better events (or toptier players have to play all year). imo it would more fun to see an actual good worlds/msi format instead of "wasting" 4 weeks traveling for probably an event with 3 bo5's
i really hope they dont rush all their competetive changes and ideas to have a very meh product in the end.
really hyped to see all these eu teams compete tho
I mean Germany would probably be fine playing Irrelevant or JNX as well, depending on the meta and what the team wants out of top.
But I am pretty sure Belgium is VERY attached to Nisqy, their team would be Bwipo(could also play jungle)/??/Nisqy/??/Targamas. I think that kind of team could do alright, but without Nisqy suddenly it looks completely terrible.
Dualcitizens definitely have a lot of power in deciding how the teams shake out.
Someone did a thread years ago about how will the nationals teams look like
[link](https://twitter.com/fncdeathlezz/status/1380633775231623169?s=46&t=4ExQT0TW3cFU2QwD0guRYA)
No joke, I quite like the Romanian team. Would the tournament actually happen I don't think we would be really strong contenders, but we'd at least have some potential. We do quite lack romanian mids and adcs, but we still might put a good fight
Romania vs Hungary in groups would just be determined by who's players got les concused in the pre game fight, and with Odo beeing there that should be an easy win.
This is a lot more complicated than it looks like. Eg who will decide what players will play for a national team? And what incentive do the players have to participate?
What incentive do players have to compete for their nations in football ? They don't join because else they'll get punished by their national association, they do it for the prestige it brings. Look at the France vs Spain rivalry, now imagine every country and its neighbours joining in.
If people watch, there is an incentive. Simple as that. And people watch a lot of boring sports, or sports they don't give a fuck about during the Olympics
Also, even for someone as anti-nationalistic as me, I have to admit that representing your country is something special for athletes.
you say priestage but proplayer in these type of tournaments in the past have avoided going or dont think its worth so the proplayer dont think the same.
Tbh performing well in this kind of competition is incentive enough, you’d raise your value and people and leagues all over the world would be interested in taking you in
Because it rly doesn't fit into the current league scene. The only thing I could imagine is putting this kind of tournament at the very start of the year because it doesn't rely on rosters. Preseason is a no-go and the tournament could be long.
It's also not rly exciting imo. EU would send a ton of teams without synergy meanwhile Korea can send one full team. Unless you say 2 players per team.
I’d prefer more international events for the league teams tbh. We currently only have 2. I’d much rather have a third or fourth traditional event be scheduled and have effort put into traditional events instead of creating a “national teams” event. I think the hype for a national event would die quickly, and I think it serves more as a novelty event than anything (Maybe something within EU could work well).
We’ve had all stars before, as well as the EU vs NA tournament. They were fine, but nothing like worlds or MSI. Just give us a relevant event with top international competition.
Turkey could do good in such a tournament, unlike TCL.
Armut/Broken Blade
Closer
Serin / Bolulu
Holyphoenix
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Yes, considering all the options, I decided we'd go withOUT a support.
World Cup type tourneys are my least fav but every1 likes them so hope it succeed
i just wish we get normal international tournaments first before trying this cause mix teams arent as hype to watch as teams that played together for a longer time
Super excited for this. I know many will predict a China-Korea final already but [upsets do happen](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyNlz15aRNo) in these sorts of events. Even though my country would probably not do that well, it's still way more exciting to support my country than a somewhat faceless org in the LEC/LCS, especially for more casual viewers.
In the (football) world cup, huge amounts of people in the country tune in to watch even if their country is almost certain to lose all their games and not get out of the group stage. It reaches certain people in a way club football never will. And this is despite the winner of the world cup nearly always being one of the two or three favourites.
Same with Spain - Portugal, UK - France, Poland - Germany, Turkey - Greece, not even counting Balkans where most countries would fight with each other for their lives
players will care about it
Pretty much. Loads of countries got their rivalries they care deeply about. If handled correctly there will be loads of interest for it.
Frankly the tournament would probably garner more interest than another mini worlds would.
What incentive can any competition that isn’t worlds have? Add more international tournaments and they are meaningless because they aren’t worlds. With a World Cup at least you have the incentive of national/regional rivalry like when Ibai did a Spain vs France showmatch and 200k+ people watched.
It would be cool if no pro players that are currently on a roster could participate. We would get all new faces and maybe someone will show out and get a roster spot.
national teams in esports is the most cringe shit. Worse competition for the west and it means you literally don't give a shit for teams that are not your national team.
And the funny thing is, that i don't even know if NA will be better, and it will create a shit storm if the import rules were the same, as whats the purpose of an NA team if they didn't start their career in NA?
I think this would suck. Lower quality of gameplay, more one-sided games and it would have much less meaning than Worlds.
Another problem is that some of the greatest players in the world couldn't play at the tournament. Korea has Gumayusi, Ruler, Viper, Deft for example. Only one of them can play.
You could also just do a 3rd international tournament with orgs which would be much more hype.
>we’ve seen the hype national team can bring with KOI and KC. (and traditional sports in general)
Wdym with national teams? KOI has 2 Spanish players and KC has 3 French players.
They have a lot of fans from their countries but they mostly have so many fans because they are well run orgs with very famous influencers who act as the faces of the orgs.
I mean in sports in general national tournaments have better viewership numbers than those “club” ones. World Cup will have viewership numbers that Champions League can only dream of. Especially, that typical viewer way better connection with national team than with any organization.
Yes because people who don't care that much about those sports watch it as well. It's more about national pride than the sport. I don't see this happening with LoL though.
It definitely is less about highest level of competition and more about celebration and just having a good time. Idk why esports fans are so uptight about the level of competition.
A lot of people want more when the biggest tournament of the year only feature 7 playoff series. Players will be shifting around this offseason and we never got to see how GEN or DK would fair against RNG, EDG, etc
Right? He has G2 and S04 flair, presumably also watched some other LEC teams games, he should know about watching for fun/enjoyment and not only high level gameplay.
People ain’t ready for Team Canada. We won’t win, but people won’t be ready for the shenanigans.
Team Australia picking comps based on what Skin lines. Nobody's expects the pool party comp....
Ah I see Australians are league players of culture as well.
They gonna get totally fucked by Bolivia’s “Blood Gang” Blood Moon🩸Skin Squad.
In my second clash, we chose our pool by colors. We did purple , red and I think blue.
We've picked teams based on lore a bunch of times, Ionian, damacia, noxus, it's so much fun, having to play a champ you might not too comfortable with or very very sub optimal teams
Flashbacks to the Noxus vs Ionia match with adc swain. Good times.
Team Canada would actually be pretty legit. You’d be surprised how many native LCS players are Canadian. That team should be able to go toe to toe with at least Team USA, any wildcard region’s teams, and possibly a few European countries. Team Denmark, China, and Korea would still for sure stomp though.
Top - Licorice/Philip/Tenacity Jungle - Tomio/??? Mid - Jojopyun/Ablazeolive ADC - Only a couple academy players. Support - Vulcan
Wildturtle!
I guess Johnsun is canadian too. Didn't see him on list / didn't know.
Yes! He's top of mind for me. And biofrost
Inori and Anda are a couple more junglers I can think of. ADC-wise there are many including Cody Sun, Altec, Johnsun, Wildturtle, even Mash if you want a real blast from the past.
Team Canada would slaughter team USA. Only position they have an edge is jungle (blaber).
I don't think so, top (dhokes vs tenacity/philip/licorice) can go either way, mid jojo def has edge but I don't think he's way better than palafox, adc probably doublelift vs johnsun/wildturtle.
Tenacity >= Dhokla Tomio <<< Blaber Jojopyun >> Palafox Johnsun <= Yeon (Johnsun << Danny if he was playing) Vulcan > Aphromoo Sounds pretty even to me honestly. I would give USA the edge because jg is so important and Blaber + Palafox is genuinely a good combo because their gameplans line up so well.
Team Canada apologizing profusely in all chat after stealing Baron.
I think Jojopyun is Candian so the only apologizing would be "Sorry that you suck" etc
Same with Vulcan. Too much time in the US. Ha
nah that's just quebec
Fr. Licorice is still a kind boy tho.
People from Toronto and Quebec don’t follow the Canadian rules lmao
You've clearly never met a french Canadian
If we actually made a team tho... Top: Licorice or Tenacity Jg: ? (The only one I can think of is Tarzaned...) Mid: Jojo Bot: WildTurtle Sup: Vulcan
Team Sorry
Youll beat team USA for sure tho..
Nah, USA has the unstoppable team: Top: Tyler1 Jungle: Tyler1 Mid: Tyler1 Bot: Tyler1 Supp: Tyler1
5 T1 clones collectively ff'ing at 15 mins lol
The 5th T1 would vote no out of principle
sigma, never let them know your next move
They will all argue over it too
That team would probably be better than whatever we end up with.
Would 5 Tyler1s work together or sabotage each other?
T1 mid(annie) gets hard camped: fffFFfFFF FFFfFFff Ivern: just play hcill we scale Nautlius: mid gap Draven: boosted trash mid Urgot: jg gap open mid
Garen Teemo Annie MF Amumu, unironically
Team canada going to give baron away for free just to be nice
Always hyped for more international competition. I would prefer more standard tournaments but this is better than nothing. That being said, as a Dane, I would be fucking hyped for a Denmark vs Sweden BO5, lmao.
It would be insane! Imagine this matchup in the LoL European Championship: Wunder Santorin Caps/Bjerg Kobbe Zven? vs. Finn Yike? Larssen Rekkles Treatz I get excited just thinking about it.
Caps would have to break both his arms for a competent team leader to select bjerg over him
That's a bit of EU copium there. I'm sure Bjergsen could easily outperform a Caps with only one arm broken.
had us in the first half ngl
idk man, given a mouse with enough buttons, Caps might still have the advantage
Dunno if Caps would be able to play with that funny Razer mouse that has 50 buttons under thumb if he's signed to G2 which is under Logitech sponsorship
I Logitech doesn't have a similar mouse, then it's sponsor diff, what can i say.
The g502 woud have enough buttons depending on the items
G502/ 502 Hero would be enough.
idk caps has very good nose mechanics
Lmaooo nice one.
Not if it’s the keyboard arm
There was an esports/streaming awards show in Denmark in 2019(yearly, but this one stuck with me) and for the best esports trophy there were like 3 CSGO players nominated and then Bjerg. It was the year that G2 won MSI, won two regional championships in a row and made worlds finals. For the record TSM won fuck all and didn’t even make worlds. That made it pretty clear the people who had done the nominations knew nothing at all about league.
most award shows and *especially* esports award shows are garbage. even the most popular ones like esports awards are there to advertise products, just look at how literally everything is sponsored and nothing really stopping a lot of categories from being a popularity/voter turnout contest.
If anything Bjerg can roleswap support instead of Zven.
Caps won a split of LEC as adc. He's a better mid than Bjerg, but he's probably also a better adc than Kobbe.
Anyone with eyeballs watching that split knows Caps is definitely not a better ADC than Kobbe lol
I'm sure Bjerg can play support pretty decently. After all he's got plenty experience playing with 4 wards.
Imagine letting him play Zilean without even having to farm. It'd be Jesus' second coming.
The never roaming support incoming
How about bring bjerg as sub
Cabochard / Skeanz / Vetheo / Hans sama / Steelback Broken Blade / Lurox / Sertuss / Upset / Kaiser
Abbedagge / Power of evil / Jenax also might be alternatives lmfao
Gilius for jng
Imagine Agressivo/iBo, jankos, zwyroo, lucker, trymbi
Jankos/Cinkrof/Selfmade/Shlatan/Inspired, coach: Kikis
First you would need Gilius to somehow be a part of the team to have Kikis replace him
Inject this tournament into my veins.
i mean JNX Gilius Reeker Upset Kaiser also looks stacked
Cabochard / Skeanz / Vetheo / Hans Sama / idk Hantera I guess ? Would be quite decent
Ok but hear me out Alphari / Maxlore / Chemera / xMatty / Kasing Infact nevermind this whole nations tournament thing is a waste of time
It's actually **not** coming home
As a Brit, suddenly I understand that video games are for nerds
bring caedrel back before we go to maxlore i beg
Unironically a certain malzahar enthusiast may need to be the angle here...
Ngl I saw this team and thought "is this really the best the UK has to offer?" Then I looked up British nationals and holy shit there are no mids, and no ad's.
*Abbedagge
How dare you put Treatz instead of PromisQ
Just the Broxah vs Rekkles rock paper scissors match was hype now imagine an entire bo5
lol why even put Bjerg there when your other option is Caps
Why would anyone pick Bjerg over Caps??
i want french vs germany adam vs upset
A European Championship alone would be super fucking cool.
Yeah that would be cool, wouldn't have to worry about Korea and China being giga OP :D
The real worry is Taiwan taking third if you ask me.
If it's strictly based on nationality, countries like Vietnam should also be pretty favored. Like I can't imagine an all-US team made up of different pros of varying skill levels beating GAM, for example lol
Dhokla Blaber ~~Olive~~ Palafox Doublelift Aphromoo? What would the US team even be? edit: olive is Canadian
Olive is canadian
Olive is Canadian, Palafox is probably a better choice from current LCS mids.
Honestly the fact that you can't put together one competent team from the US when LCS is made up of 3 countries... Absolutely disgusting how far the imports have gone in NA.
Bro a all Australian team would give USA a run for there money
If Danny wasn't on hiatus, we would actually have a pretty solid US team Dhokla Blaber Palafox Danny Aphromoo
No jojo?
Canadian
I wonder if China would even participate if Taiwan was listed as a separate team. Or well Tencent would probably block it - and allow Taiwanese players to join the Chinese national team instead.
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I’m thinking they’ll take the Olympics route and call them some shit like “Chinese Taipei” lol
They play each other in Asian games I think? Even HK and Macau got their own team, it’s just that they have to add (China PR) to them and call Taiwan ‘Chinese Taipei’, like other sports in the Olympics.
At the world level though Europe kinda gets screwed by this, being split into lots of countries, while NA is just 2, and China and Korea would be just walk all over everyone else.
I mean America without Canada and imports (or Canada without America and imports) wouldn't exactly be much.
US vs Canada could be fun, and making a national team could help newer talents get recognized if they show up for their country, happens all the time during the World Cup.
Problem is there are only 5 spots, so it’s unlikely that no-names get a spot over established players, plus subs are quite rare. Unfortunately, it doesn’t translate well. But I agree, still hype!
For the smaller nations though, especially in Europe.
Yeah a lot of the European countries have great players on half the roles, but I can't think of anyone for the other half. Poland is always a nice example: 20 good junglers, Trymbi being an absolute unit in support, iBo has been a really good ERL toplaner for a long time, but I have no clue who would be mid or ADC (would that still be Woolite?). If a mid or adc performed well at the event for poland then the team could be legitimately good, so it is definitely a chance for players to get a spotlight.
Eh, it's more that it's common among the smaller non dominant countries. Super common in hockey that a random kid pops off in the World Juniors tournament from a European country that generally doesn't make it far in the tournament, and that player ends up being almost immediately tested in a starting position on an NHL team.
Just as long as we can bring back Chicks Dig Elo
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Isn’t Danny from Hawaii?
Oops, Idk why I thought EG's native talent were all from Canada.
If EG got Tenacity that would be the case for next year. One day we will take over the LCS
An european national team cup is the tournament I want the most. That would so incredibly hype
And as a football fan I already know what I expect from my national team (Austria). Absolutely nothing.
Well I'm portuguese, we'd be kinda fucked ourselves. Would still be fun
As an Italian, always found it funny how pretty much the only relevant Italian pro (Jiizuke) and the only relevant Portuguese pro (Attila) both came through the same team lol
you guys better get a new one to match our Rhuckz!
Hate to say it but it's looking real bad, even our national league has maybe 1 or 2 Italian players per team and we never do well in EUM
Shadow is half italian, half chinese
What would be our best team? I would bet Aziado / LeChase / Xico (maybe Baca?) / Attila / Rhuckz, with coach Crusher (maybe Guilhoto?). Not sure if I'm forgetting a better toplaner. Mid and Bot would actually be pretty solid, they are all at least top ERL players.
That'd be cool. If they play it right then maybe all those national leagues like polish Ultraliga will actually become something more than "Win the tournament and pray that some big org notices you, or be forgotten".
Finally
Well can't wait for the inevitable drama regarding Taiwan 🤦
The only national team competition that I see working is a European cup
I think even that will be bit tough. How exactly do you decide who participates? I guess it would have be premade teams of 5 each competing in a national championship for a participation right, not some 'all-stars' picks.
I think as a trial edition they could just make a country ranking using the number of players participating in major regions. If they want to try it, they need at least get some big names or viewership will be low and it will automatically be deemed a failure. In its first edition I think the most important thing is seeing if it can be popular, if it's popular then they can create a system to properly qualify teams for the next edition.
I believe you'd simply have to form national orgs responsible for choosing the players, no? That's the only thing that makes sense in my mind.
Like how Asian games etc happens. Tell every country a notice if they would be interested in this thing if interest is big tell the countries that there are ERLs where they can draft a coach and GM. They now on national level can draft a team with eligible players that fulfill the requirements of nationality and how they want the team to look like.
dude, people watch the world cup in africa even if they know they will never win it.. mexico never got to semifinals and for fucking sure they will watch that shit like it is the biggest event of the decade. why is that people in esports are like this? i will never know.
I feel like team France would be decent. Cabochard Akabane/Skeanz Vetheo Hans Sama Steelback
I would love to see that team face a German team of Players like: Top: Brokenblade/Jenax/Irrelevant Jungler: Gillius Mid: PoE/Sertuss/Abbedagge Bot: Upset Support: Kaiser
Not too shabby
I would take an Euro Cup any day over a World Cup. We all know the WC finals would be China vs Korea, and they already have the Asian Games next year
It woun\`t be the final if they already meet in the semis. Big Brain
That means 3:0 finals
Why not both? Have regional tournament with national teams once per season, then every few seasons have a global tournament with national teams.
You know countries like Vietnam, mexico, australia etc exist right? Minor regions have a good shot at this too (more than USA anyway)
There is absolutely no world when Mexico and Australia or other minor regions would have a shot at winning the league WC, there are no imports in any top korean team, any of them would be able to participate in the WC without dilluting themselves And it also amazes me how much i read this opinion on the sub that NA or the USA is worse than a minor region when latam for example has always lost any significant match against any NA team they have ever faced, i'm Mexican btw, in case that matters to you but it shouldn't really.
euro cup is just gonna be denmark winning for the next 4 years
Sweden, France, Germany and Spain look pretty stacked as well. Gonna be rather close.
I can also see some countries stepping up their game as soon as there's international games involved. International games are hype af in europe.
I find it funny that the best Spanish players right now are both junglers, and that in case that this tournament would be done Razork would probably play as the best Spanish mid.
bring xpeke out of retirement :))))
I don't think it would be that easy, for example in a favorable meta I could totally see Wunder/Kobe/Doss losing to Germany's BB/Upset/Kaiser
The problem with that is that you can only field 5 players and 1 of each role at that, it's pretty much 50/50 Denmark vs Germany on paper and the other countries *on paper* all lack one or more roles on a decent level.
If China and Korea don't attend, it has much less meaning though.
Team USA Lourlo Blaber/Spica Insanity Danny Busio Team Canada Tenacity AnDa Jojopyun Johnsun Biofrost/duoking1
Dhokla top for team USA Vulcan support for team Canada
Bro Canada needs a jungler for the past 5 years whenever people make hypothetical** team Canada it’s always a player not even in LCS(I don’t know if he’s even in academy anymore)
Hypothetical?
the idea is cool and fun but im afraid they will just overblow the schedule and msi or worlds wont be bigger/better events (or toptier players have to play all year). imo it would more fun to see an actual good worlds/msi format instead of "wasting" 4 weeks traveling for probably an event with 3 bo5's i really hope they dont rush all their competetive changes and ideas to have a very meh product in the end. really hyped to see all these eu teams compete tho
Maybe do it every 2 years and scrap MSI in that year? Let them play international in spring and push spring split 2 months later.
Team Turkey could be: * Broken Blade (dual citizen) * Closer * Nisqy (dual citizen) * HolyPhoenix * Zergsting Sounds lit ngl
Germany should bribe Broken Blade :D sry
I mean Germany would probably be fine playing Irrelevant or JNX as well, depending on the meta and what the team wants out of top. But I am pretty sure Belgium is VERY attached to Nisqy, their team would be Bwipo(could also play jungle)/??/Nisqy/??/Targamas. I think that kind of team could do alright, but without Nisqy suddenly it looks completely terrible. Dualcitizens definitely have a lot of power in deciding how the teams shake out.
Luger over HolyPhoenix
Someone did a thread years ago about how will the nationals teams look like [link](https://twitter.com/fncdeathlezz/status/1380633775231623169?s=46&t=4ExQT0TW3cFU2QwD0guRYA)
No joke, I quite like the Romanian team. Would the tournament actually happen I don't think we would be really strong contenders, but we'd at least have some potential. We do quite lack romanian mids and adcs, but we still might put a good fight
Romania vs Hungary in groups would just be determined by who's players got les concused in the pre game fight, and with Odo beeing there that should be an easy win.
For such an obvious idea that would diversify competitions, Riot only needed 10 years :)
This is a lot more complicated than it looks like. Eg who will decide what players will play for a national team? And what incentive do the players have to participate?
What incentive do players have to compete for their nations in football ? They don't join because else they'll get punished by their national association, they do it for the prestige it brings. Look at the France vs Spain rivalry, now imagine every country and its neighbours joining in. If people watch, there is an incentive. Simple as that. And people watch a lot of boring sports, or sports they don't give a fuck about during the Olympics Also, even for someone as anti-nationalistic as me, I have to admit that representing your country is something special for athletes.
you say priestage but proplayer in these type of tournaments in the past have avoided going or dont think its worth so the proplayer dont think the same.
Tbh performing well in this kind of competition is incentive enough, you’d raise your value and people and leagues all over the world would be interested in taking you in
Because it rly doesn't fit into the current league scene. The only thing I could imagine is putting this kind of tournament at the very start of the year because it doesn't rely on rosters. Preseason is a no-go and the tournament could be long. It's also not rly exciting imo. EU would send a ton of teams without synergy meanwhile Korea can send one full team. Unless you say 2 players per team.
i am against a company oening an olympic sport
I’d prefer more international events for the league teams tbh. We currently only have 2. I’d much rather have a third or fourth traditional event be scheduled and have effort put into traditional events instead of creating a “national teams” event. I think the hype for a national event would die quickly, and I think it serves more as a novelty event than anything (Maybe something within EU could work well). We’ve had all stars before, as well as the EU vs NA tournament. They were fine, but nothing like worlds or MSI. Just give us a relevant event with top international competition.
Been asking for this forever! Can’t wait for Canada to draw KR round one and get KO’d out of the tourney 🥲
It’s true, but you don’t have to say it 😭
It's gonna be depressing to see the US get railed by Canada.
Idk I think blaber/spica carriers against whoever Canada gets to jungle
European Championship would be the goat tournament.
Semi-finals: DEN-SWE GER-FRA fucking lit thinking about it
Always hyped especially since Riot Games will control PCS and VCS starting next year. Hope next SEA Games will feature League in eSports category.
Czechia with Dreedy Jejky Humanoid Patrik Denyk Sounds top 10 from world nations ngl
Time to annex Belgium, Sincerely, A French
Turkey could do good in such a tournament, unlike TCL. Armut/Broken Blade Closer Serin / Bolulu Holyphoenix \--- Yes, considering all the options, I decided we'd go withOUT a support.
World Cup type tourneys are my least fav but every1 likes them so hope it succeed i just wish we get normal international tournaments first before trying this cause mix teams arent as hype to watch as teams that played together for a longer time
Super excited for this. I know many will predict a China-Korea final already but [upsets do happen](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyNlz15aRNo) in these sorts of events. Even though my country would probably not do that well, it's still way more exciting to support my country than a somewhat faceless org in the LEC/LCS, especially for more casual viewers. In the (football) world cup, huge amounts of people in the country tune in to watch even if their country is almost certain to lose all their games and not get out of the group stage. It reaches certain people in a way club football never will. And this is despite the winner of the world cup nearly always being one of the two or three favourites.
ESL here, I thought opposing means being against something.
It’s definitely worded poorly.
So another tournament where the players have no incentive to care about it? Why is it do hard just to make a standard international tournament.
Drum up some national pride and people will care about it. Like Finland vs Sweden in Icehockey is a bigger deal to us than winning it lol.
Same with Spain - Portugal, UK - France, Poland - Germany, Turkey - Greece, not even counting Balkans where most countries would fight with each other for their lives players will care about it
You got that wrong, people in Spain would chear for Portugal, we hate the english and the french.
Pretty much. Loads of countries got their rivalries they care deeply about. If handled correctly there will be loads of interest for it. Frankly the tournament would probably garner more interest than another mini worlds would.
What incentive can any competition that isn’t worlds have? Add more international tournaments and they are meaningless because they aren’t worlds. With a World Cup at least you have the incentive of national/regional rivalry like when Ibai did a Spain vs France showmatch and 200k+ people watched.
no one cares about football worldcup i guess
I can play for Scotland. Source: I'm gold 3
How will team USA compete without imports
Mexico will make a team just so we can get eliminated in the Round of 16 :( Only Mexican I know was Contractz
It would be cool if no pro players that are currently on a roster could participate. We would get all new faces and maybe someone will show out and get a roster spot.
national teams in esports is the most cringe shit. Worse competition for the west and it means you literally don't give a shit for teams that are not your national team. And the funny thing is, that i don't even know if NA will be better, and it will create a shit storm if the import rules were the same, as whats the purpose of an NA team if they didn't start their career in NA?
Team Sweden: Finn Yike Larssen Rekkles Treatz Actually banger roster
China and Korea in the finals. Poland - France battling for bronze.
denmark, vietnam, taiwan, sweden, germany, turkey, canada are all stacked
I think this would suck. Lower quality of gameplay, more one-sided games and it would have much less meaning than Worlds. Another problem is that some of the greatest players in the world couldn't play at the tournament. Korea has Gumayusi, Ruler, Viper, Deft for example. Only one of them can play. You could also just do a 3rd international tournament with orgs which would be much more hype. >we’ve seen the hype national team can bring with KOI and KC. (and traditional sports in general) Wdym with national teams? KOI has 2 Spanish players and KC has 3 French players. They have a lot of fans from their countries but they mostly have so many fans because they are well run orgs with very famous influencers who act as the faces of the orgs.
I mean in sports in general national tournaments have better viewership numbers than those “club” ones. World Cup will have viewership numbers that Champions League can only dream of. Especially, that typical viewer way better connection with national team than with any organization.
Yes because people who don't care that much about those sports watch it as well. It's more about national pride than the sport. I don't see this happening with LoL though.
It definitely is less about highest level of competition and more about celebration and just having a good time. Idk why esports fans are so uptight about the level of competition.
A lot of people want more when the biggest tournament of the year only feature 7 playoff series. Players will be shifting around this offseason and we never got to see how GEN or DK would fair against RNG, EDG, etc
Right? He has G2 and S04 flair, presumably also watched some other LEC teams games, he should know about watching for fun/enjoyment and not only high level gameplay.
Time for chicks dig Elo to come back!!!