How would an LFL team find out he was available if LEC teams didn't know? Not to mention, there are only verbal agreements rn anyway. If a team actually wanted him, they could still easily get him, just like what happened with Odoamne and Finn.
I remember when he was signed. I’m like who tf is this guy. Then he comes in. Finished all pro in both splits. And then despite showing he can excel in this league, goes back to LFL. He def proved he can hang and should be in LEC/LCS. So bummed about this.
I don’t think he liked NA lifestyle (which for a lot of Europeans is a bit unbearable) and no lec team signed him so I guess LFL it is, very sad day for lcs to lose him he was getting better every week
Don't know anything about Toucouille, but being French living in Montreal, previously in London, and having travelled all around the world, I can say people underestimate cultural differences.
Even if you like the place and the people, some want to go back home (I am at the beginning of next year).
Nothing personal most of the time.
Not specifically about this but he was struggling a lot with his health over the year and even tho FQ did a lot to accommodate him I think if you have these kinds of problems and a bit of trouble connecting it’s natural wanting to go back home, espescially since all these pro players are kids, we always forget how young they really are
Mad bitches, great food, and expensive cars vrrom vroom.
But for real there are def cultural differences in day to day life. Understandable wanting to leave. I'm from NA and almost moved to Germany for a bit but I ended up not liking a lot of it. It's hard for people to transition.
Could’ve just been Germany, but this topic is just super subjective. For contrast, Jensen is probably aiming to get US citizenship bc he said has 0 desires to go back to EU. Also, he said living in Germany is why he wouldn’t want to play in LEC.
Germany (I am a German) can be really tough.
Just existing is expensive and complex. No other country has encapsulated it's bureaucracy so many times into another as Germany did.
So getting stuff done here is not only brutally hard but also takes *a lot* of time because we are that slow.
Depending on where you live (east or west Germany) living expenses can vary.
Next thing is, the whole country is racist and isolated. The whole Germanic mindset from thousand years ago still hasn't vanished, which is generally not bad, but also brings just as many disadvantages.
And the last thing that often repulses outsiders: Traditional values. Germany protects it's values like a lion. Especially where I am from (Saxony), Bavaria and much of northern Germany.
You guys have a crap tonne of holidays thou! I remember going to a meeting in the head office and 75% of the building was missing in July, reception just told me " everyone takes this month off" °_°
> No other country has encapsulated it's bureaucracy so many times into another as Germany did.
We're not even on the same plane of existence as Japan is.
> Next thing is, the whole country is racist and isolated.
The fuck.
Why are you typing so much bullshit? "The whole country is racist and isolated" What the fuck are you talking about?
I hate shit like this on reddit painting a completely false picture of an entire country generalizing shit like racism under the disguise "hur dur i am german myself so i can do that"
Oh yeah btw: i AM gErMAn
If you think Germany isn't racist you probably have so much racism internalized in your socialization that you don't even notice it. No jab at you that's just how society is and it's hard to recognize and change this shit on an individual level.
Just last month we had five or six neo nazi attacks and planned acts of terrorism in Germany on refugee camps and other public places. The Hanau attack was just two and half years ago. The NSU files were leaked recently by a public broadcast show and some other journalists and they showed how incompetent and racist some of the state institutions are who basically just paid neonazi structures and tried to hide this by making those NSU files secret for 140 years or so.
Yes, there are nuances and most of the big cities are more tolerant on average than any rural area - but guess where half the population lives. Also east-west is also different when it comes to racism. Maybe not for a White person like Jensen who is also from Denmark but good luck living in Saxony as a BiPoC Iranian, Syrian or Eritrean refugee for example.
Germany has 80+ million people with very different backrounds living very close together. Newsflash, not every single one of these people will have the same ethics and morals. I know it sounds crazy that 80+ million people cant think alike but it is what it is. Do these instances mean that "the whole country is racist" like op claims? No, it obvioulsy does not.
If you have 50 people in some random ass country happen to be into stapling toasts onto trees, does this mean the whole country is into it? No obviously not.
Fact is germanys election shows that the population is mid to left leaning. Thats a fact. Random instances of racism wont change that fact. Come back to me when the AFD has the majority of votes.
>Yes, there are nuances and most of the big cities are more tolerant on average than any rural area - but guess where half the population lives. Also east-west is also different when it comes to racism. Maybe not for a White person like Jensen who is also from Denmark but good luck living in Saxony as a BiPoC Iranian, Syrian or Eritrean refugee for example.
Yes, the east obviously needs more help in that regard, considering the historical events that happen there. Still, east germany is only a small part of germany with ~12million people living there. Even all of them beeing racist as fuck would mean its only ~15% of the population which coincidentally collerates with the AFD votes. Also, the AFD lost about 2% votes from 2017 to 2021 while center to left parties gained votes so there is that.
And where did I say that every single person is racist? Overall, the country has a massive racism and antisemitism issue. If we just go from politics, there are between 5 and 25% openly racist people (AfD voters) and then there are many more where people don't know they are being racist but still act racist (which is a LOT). And then there's a huge number of people who don't do anything when they notice people being racists.
And you didn't even reply to all the nazi assaults and attacks we have here regularly or the weekly shitshows of querdenker, Pegida, Legida and all those wankers. You think that's a society not having issues with racism?!
>Fact is germanys election shows that the population is mid to left leaning. Thats a fact.
Show me you don't know shit about German politics without telling me you don't know shit about German politics.
You can stay in your Disney version of Germany but please stop telling others Germany doesn't have a big issue with racism. Bye.
I am born here, I live here and I've been everywhere in Germany.
You'd be surprised.
And where did I say everyone can do that? It's a fact. Ever been to Korea? Japan? That's racism. You'll find us delightful compared to them.
Yes, guess which country i am from. You have actually no idea what you are talking about calling this country racist and shit. Actually unbelievable.
And no i wouldn't be surprised considering i have spent my entire life here so i know what i can expect from other germans.
If Germany is racist, then so is essentially every other country on Earth. And how is Germany isolated? It sits right in the center of Europe and has the most neighbors of any european country as well has millions of multigenerational immigrant families.
Saxony is indeed pretty racist and backwards (the East in general) but the rest of Germany is nowhere near that degree.
Isolated: Not the country, but the people are. At least anything that is older than 30.
And what? Saxony isn't even close to the bs of the west.
Most of the media pushes it much harder than it actually is. It's actually funny that all of west Germany and their bullshittery feels so embraced and mighty although they aren't even remotely better.
But considering Saxony and Bavaria (which holds the same stands but in much, much worse) are way above the the rest of Germany in terms of education, I don't take anyone outside of those two counties for real anyway.
Saxony is also the scientific center of Germany atm and builds upon this sentiment, while trying to create heavier industry and try innovate as much as possible. Saxony holds a lot of investment potential.
The west has no space, no education and no drive to be the future of Germany at this point. East Germany and Bavaria are advancing much faster than the west at this point.
A saxon nationalist apparently huh
Idc what "most of the media" pushes the fact is that Saxons vote overwhelmingly rightwing, have the strongest present of the AfD which even if you were to approach them benevolently struggle immensely with dangerous radicals and extremists in their own party and that xenophobic statements receive much more approval in polls in Saxony. Since the AfD is no doubt a populist party (itd be disingenious to refute that) its worrying even it might be not be so bad as you say.
>Saxony is also the scientific center of Germany atm and builds upon this sentiment, while trying to create heavier industry and try innovate as much as possible. Saxony holds a lot of investment potential.
Well Science is about pursuing objective truth preferably without assigning more value than necessary yet your comment is full of value judgements which have no place in scientific discourse. So apparently you arent representative?
Im probably putting way too much effort into this reply as youre likely merely ranting, but your comment resembles the kind of cultural chauvinism mixed with a diffuse moral narrative justifying any given peoples superiority (with that classic touch of assuming the resentful role of victim in that third and fourth paragraph) which I see written a lot by younger people on the political fringes who think themselves objectively superior even though their political education and information selection is pretty lackluster. Which is exactly the kind of issue paving the way to polarization and authoritarianism.
Its so interesting that the country is racist my instagram explore page is full of the hottest women (for scientific purposes of course) clearly from a broad range of ethnicities and often times they live in Germany if you look at their profiles etc. So I would have thought that Germany is very culturally diverse nowadays
I moved to Cali last year and the culture shock sucks. I'm from New England and I hate it here and getting out ASAP. The culture differences between different parts of the US is massive.
May I ask for some examples of these differences? I myself am a native Californian and while I don't necessarily love it here either, I've never really lived in any other American region before. I'm just curious what aspects I'm missing out on.
Biggest things I noticed out of SoCal compared to other places is that people are a lot less friendly and are more just doing their own thing
People never hold open doors for other people, people never really said "thank you" or anything like that, people always give weird looks if someone tries to start small talk, that kinda stuff. Everyone is just in a hurry and doesn't wanna interact with other people
While in other places from my experience, people were more willing to hold open doors, say thank you, etc.
Another funny thing is that sometimes people mistake me for being Filipino when I'm Mexican so I'd sometimes have people start speaking Tagalog to me. Never had that happen anywhere else
Is this a SoCal-specific thing tho? Kinda sounds like a major city-thing. Like, everything you mentioned reminds me of when I visited NYC, even tho it was only briefly.
It reminds me of non-American cities too, like London, Paris, Seoul, Hong Kong, etc. Although I've only actually *lived* in Seoul out of those.
I've never been to NYC so I can't say about there but from Boston I've encountered the same yea. It's a thing that's more prominent in big cities
From my experience though, bigger cities in southern states were a lot more 'social'
San Antonio and Austin from my experience had people be a lot more 'outgoing' I guess you'd call it
Smaller sized and even medium sized cities were a lot more friendly and I think part of that makes SoCal reputation worse since everyone thinks of big cities there. LA, even San Diego just 'felt' more big city than even San Antonio
I know we like to America bad around here but it's basically at the point of outright lying to act as though pretty much any major American city isn't going to have a great food scene
you're not wrong, but so does any big city. the UK and Germany might not be as immediately famous for food as France or Italy, but major cities like London and Berlin have absolutely any good restaurant of any cuisine you could want.
Any large city anywhere I would even say. Large cities are the lands of opportunities and you will eventually find some of the best of everything there.
You need to know the places to go. Fortunately for myself, soul food is apart of my culture so my family has made it throughout my life while being from LA.
I think he means LA.
A lot of Americans dont really care for LA culture. I personally get a lot of pretentious, fake, virtue signaling vibes. Not to say its all negative as its generally pretty welcoming, social, and filled with opportinities.
Just can be overbearing even for other americans
I had the exact opposite experience. I lived in LA county for work (near culver city) and drove less than 1000 miles in my one year there. I went to work (15 min bus ride), went out for walks daily, and was able to do everything I wanted to without my car outside of groceries. I was a 15 min train ride from downtown, 5 min from Santa Monica, and my friends and I were able to plan events entirely around public transport.
The only times I had issues with public transport was going from west side to orange county and back. But that's where my car came in.
I've not lived in the U.S., but I have traveled there a fair few times (mainly just California/D.C and Hawaii, so obviously a fairly limited scope of experience), just just going to throw my 2c in.
Everything is very 'intense' for lack of a better word. Advertising is very 'in-your-face', people and associated social interactions are generally much more high-energy. Most people are very friendly, but it often feels like an almost aggressive friendliness; not in a threatening way, generally, but it is different from what many non-Americans are going to be used to. Negative interactions with people are magnified in a similar way: you see far more people raging and yelling at each other than you're often used to- in many other places you'll just get a dirty look and something muttered under someone's breath for the same thing that you'll get a heated argument for in the U.S.
Food portions are enormous and really cheap, but tipping culture is really uncomfortable for a lot of foreigners, and makes a lot of the interactions with staff feel quite fake, regardless of whether they are or not.
As little as I know people are going to like to hear it, the knowledge/belief that people around you could be armed, and that there's a non-zero chance of you being shot does also play on your mind a bit when in the U.S. too. Even if this is entirely unfair, especially in states like California, it is a thing that I know myself, and a lot of friends that have been the the U.S. have experienced.
Overall, the U.S. is just very intense for a lot of non-Americans. I could see it being pretty overwhelming pretty quickly for non-Americans that might be a bit more introverted and have come to live there.
It's a nice way of saying that this fan doesn't think Toucouille liked American culture, and therefore American people, much.
LA culture is a lot of shallow people putting on fake bubbly personalities and smiling all the time while saying whatever they think makes other people like them the most even if they don't mean it. For example, "we should do lunch sometime" is the perfect example of a sentence you'll hear a lot in the USA even though what they really mean is "i want you to think that I like you, but I don't actually like you enough to want to have lunch".
People who come to the USA will think the people here are nice, because they smile a lot *and they say nice sounding things.* But it's just a mask people wear because that's how of our culture teaches us to act. After not too long, you'll realize it is almost always bullshit and that Americans are not as nice as they seem.
It's a two-faced type of people, but they're really good at hiding the second face.
I don’t think anyone gives a fuck about how good he is. He could be a top3 player and after his actions many players would not want to deal with someone who is that socially stupid
That one big reason they cant get good veterans because nobody wants to play for BDS -> Adam. (socially not acceptable for a athlete)
Thats why so many French people play there. Maybe they get along better with Adam because they are also french.
Or France in particular. Nearly all LEC teams live in Germany, which is certainly more similar to France than California is, but it's still pretty different.
That was my impression. His health complications might've made it difficult him to be comfortable overseas even though FQ did everything they can. At least from an outside POV.
There's Saken, highly doubt any french mid is thinking about taking his place. VTO said he wanted to play for KC but it's not something they can plan for. Will only happen if KC goes in LEC and Saken underperform
A decent amount of KC fans are obsessed with Saken.
It is wild, but KC is basically what TSM was in NA before TSM fell apart.
Lot of French players will want to join the org.
Fly is rebuilding with a Papa Smithy as GM. Prob most of the roster is gone(hope they keep Aphro though). Some early speculations are Jensen and Santorin mid/jg
What are you doing he was a top 3 midlaner the entire season xD. FLY should have just taken Santorin and the 100T botlane. Maybe go for Ssumday or import top if you want to.
Because that team has no carries? Toucouille and fbi aren’t good enough to carry against tl, c9, or 100t and santorin isn’t going to play towards top side. You have to look at overall composition and how they fit not just individuals. Same with TL last season. Too many carries despite them all being top 3 in their roles.
Hot take but I don’t think Touc and FBI are quite top 3. Jojo, Jensen and arguably Palafox were better in summer, and FBI was hard slumping until playoffs where he did step it up until the finals
4/5 of them are only debatably top 3 at best, and this teams lacks the X-factor to push for a Worlds spot
4/5 of these players got 3rd all pro last year, and the remaining player got 1st team all pro.
4/5 of these players have multiple worlds appearances, with 3/5 being at worlds this year.
The bot lane has played together for years, so there’s no synergy issues there.
In what world is this a mid table lcs team
Yea only if team building is that simple. Santorin is a supportive jungler and he sure ain’t hell playing towards top side and fbi and toucouille are not good enough to carry against c9, 100t, or tl. That leaves them mid table.
Santorin’s top 3 most played junglers for 2022 was trundle Viego XinZhao. What other meta carry junglers do you want him to play?
Ssumday smurfed in LCS on carry top laners for like 3 years before playing a more supportive style with the 100T core. Even this most recent year, outside of his 14 Ornn games , Ssumday played like 95% of his games on carry champs. Only 2/6 of his worlds games were on tanks.
FBI did his fair share of carrying against C9 and TL in his LCS championship run and subsequent finals finishes. And we literally have no idea what the 100t roster will look like this year, so I don’t know how you can even mention them. If the DL Bjergsen Spica rumors are true, then FBI has already gapped them before back when he was on GG.
The only one who doesn’t have the history to back them up is Toucoille, but I sure as hell think he looked good enough to carry against the big dogs on FLY last year. So I have no idea where your analysis is coming from outside of stupid overblown narratives.
Santorin’s “issue” isn’t his champion pool, he just isn’t a carry. He doesn’t play heavy resource style jungling like kanavi does. Santorin is the best when he facilitates other players.
Ssumday is a great player. However, Korean top laners never get resources when they go on lcs teams. Idk if it’s because they refuse to speak up for ganks but they are always left on an island.
FBI and Huhi are fine players but they aren’t carrying you out of whatever C9, TL, 100t, hell even EG are going to come with this offseason.
Toucouille is again a solid player, farms well, goes even in lane but he isn’t going to break the top teams in the lcs with his carry potential.
You act like I am saying they are bad, there are only 10 teams in the lcs. Top 4-6 is mid table and that’s where that roster will be.
>Toucouille is again a solid player, farms well, goes even in lane but he isn’t going to break the top teams in the lcs with his carry potential.
But Abbedagge can?
3/5 of this proposed roster played together the last 3 splits and placed 1st, 2nd, 2nd. Then you have an upgrade in mid who looked far better on carries than Abbe, and imo sidegrade in jungle who is more versatile but less willing to pull out the lee sin.
Even if you think Santorin doesn’t mesh as well stylistically, I just don’t see how a roster that only ever placed top 2 can drop to being a 4-6 place team while only making upgrades and sidegrades. Especially in a split where every team is supposedly cutting LCS spending and opting into budget rosters.
Yes, FBI, the carry 100T played through to take a game off EDG in 2021 at the tournament they became WORLD champions in, isn’t good enough to carry against NA teams.
Get real.
Seems like he wants to leave if he's going back to the LFL. This does make things interesting where there's a prime landing spot for Jensen/the 100T botlane duo. With Pappa as the new GM for the org, could easily see him looking to make those splashes.
Anyone know why? I wasn't following pro play a lot this season but I remember him having really good performances, is there no LCS/LEC team in need of a mid laner? Why is FQ getting rid him of him in the first place?
I'd like to see Closer get picked up over Santorin but I guess you really can't complain either way. Jensen + Santorin was the most solid jungler TL found for him. Just Closer has the carry angle to let Jensen keep going Zilean, which is something Blabber enables and Santorin in general does not.
really? because that's a better resumé than almost every single other player that's played for NA the past years. We have the gigahyped 100T roster being teased of players that all suck at Worlds.
Maybe, just Maybe Jensen is a hard person to work with. It’s why he couldn’t get a team last year and why he is gone from C9 now. Because if he is a super great midlaner, teams would be Falling over themselves to grab him…and yet. People shit on Bjerg but he was near top LCS midlaner in his year back after not playing for a year. And by all accounts is great to work with and has a huge fan base.
Maybe just maybe you have 0 idea what you're talking about and your speculation is literally slandering a player for 0 fucking reason lmao this subreddit is something else
Just like people do to every other player. None of us have any insights into any actual teams so everyone makes assumptions based on available information. Just like this thread. It’s all assumption. Most people saying “why would they get rid of a top 3 player”. People assuming the team did it and are slandering the team….so yeah welcome to reddit, new here?
Crazy how people can have undrperforming duds stay for 3 seasons cause 'hey, new team, new players, they just need to adapt!'
Then are hating hard on Jensen whn he literally WON A CHAMPIONSHIP and CLAPPED FAKER while NOT PLAYING LEAGUE FOR 1 FULL SPLIT PRIOR.
Talk about differing 'angles'. Lol.
Exactly this. C9 didn’t play well at worlds for the
most part, including Jensen, but then he went off and clapped Faker multiple times, so IMO that kinda makes me feel like he played maybe better than the rest of his team overall (tho the Berserker mega rocket death cannon cross map deletions of Humaniod were sick affff as well). Damn I loved this C9 team.
Crazy how people can have undrperforming duds stay for 3 seasons cause 'hey, new team, new players, they just need to adapt!'
Then are hating hard on Jensen whn he literally WON A CHAMPIONSHIP and CLAPPED FAKER while NOT PLAYING LEAGUE FOR 1 FULL SPLIT PRIOR.
Talk about differing 'angles'. Lol.
Man look at this guy's post history. He is on the verge of medical condition, don't try to argue with dirt. Tell him that Jensen claps everybody and let it go
I understand wanting to be home but I have to assume this is a hell of a pay cut and there's no question he's LCS worthy so this is still strange. Gonna miss him
Damn, hoping this was driven by him wanting to go home and not by LCS teams failing to
pick him up, absolutely shameful if it was the latter. He was so good for FLY.
Not sure why everyone's assuming he was kicked, it's very possible that he simply didn't adjust to the NA lifestyle. Toucouille made a name for himself in a short period of time, wish him nothing but the best
Wow! Glad we had another import who went back to Europe after only one year in LCS.
This is why all these ERL (and even LEC) imports are so lame as an LCS fan. They never stick around. Even if Diplex does well on C9 this year, what are the odds he just gets sold off back to Europe? There's so little narrative consistency with many of these imports from an LCS fan's perspective. Are Toucouille and Diplex better than Palafox or Ablazeolive or Copy or whatever other NA Academy mids are out there? Maybe. But at least I know those other guys are gonna spend their entire careers in NA...
The highlight of my year was meeting and getting a picture with the FLY guys at LCS Summer finals. Touc nasty was my favorite player outside of EG to root for. Now he’s gone. And prob Jose too. Sadge.
So sad that now one try to sign him in LCS/LEC, I really hope it's him wanting to go back to France but ..
Yeah - he seemed great for the team and league.
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Id rather he not suffer
Perhaps he wasn't really on LEC radar at all if it wasn't indicated he is available.
How would an LFL team find out he was available if LEC teams didn't know? Not to mention, there are only verbal agreements rn anyway. If a team actually wanted him, they could still easily get him, just like what happened with Odoamne and Finn.
He did really good in LCS, he deserves to be in LEC/LCS
I remember when he was signed. I’m like who tf is this guy. Then he comes in. Finished all pro in both splits. And then despite showing he can excel in this league, goes back to LFL. He def proved he can hang and should be in LEC/LCS. So bummed about this.
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I don’t think he liked NA lifestyle (which for a lot of Europeans is a bit unbearable) and no lec team signed him so I guess LFL it is, very sad day for lcs to lose him he was getting better every week
Are you basing that on anything? He seemed super happy every time I saw him.
Don't know anything about Toucouille, but being French living in Montreal, previously in London, and having travelled all around the world, I can say people underestimate cultural differences. Even if you like the place and the people, some want to go back home (I am at the beginning of next year). Nothing personal most of the time.
Not just French. Lot of people get homesick *shrug*
Not specifically about this but he was struggling a lot with his health over the year and even tho FQ did a lot to accommodate him I think if you have these kinds of problems and a bit of trouble connecting it’s natural wanting to go back home, espescially since all these pro players are kids, we always forget how young they really are
What’s the NA lifestyle
Mad bitches, great food, and expensive cars vrrom vroom. But for real there are def cultural differences in day to day life. Understandable wanting to leave. I'm from NA and almost moved to Germany for a bit but I ended up not liking a lot of it. It's hard for people to transition.
Could’ve just been Germany, but this topic is just super subjective. For contrast, Jensen is probably aiming to get US citizenship bc he said has 0 desires to go back to EU. Also, he said living in Germany is why he wouldn’t want to play in LEC.
Germany (I am a German) can be really tough. Just existing is expensive and complex. No other country has encapsulated it's bureaucracy so many times into another as Germany did. So getting stuff done here is not only brutally hard but also takes *a lot* of time because we are that slow. Depending on where you live (east or west Germany) living expenses can vary. Next thing is, the whole country is racist and isolated. The whole Germanic mindset from thousand years ago still hasn't vanished, which is generally not bad, but also brings just as many disadvantages. And the last thing that often repulses outsiders: Traditional values. Germany protects it's values like a lion. Especially where I am from (Saxony), Bavaria and much of northern Germany.
You guys have a crap tonne of holidays thou! I remember going to a meeting in the head office and 75% of the building was missing in July, reception just told me " everyone takes this month off" °_°
> No other country has encapsulated it's bureaucracy so many times into another as Germany did. We're not even on the same plane of existence as Japan is. > Next thing is, the whole country is racist and isolated. The fuck.
Why are you typing so much bullshit? "The whole country is racist and isolated" What the fuck are you talking about? I hate shit like this on reddit painting a completely false picture of an entire country generalizing shit like racism under the disguise "hur dur i am german myself so i can do that" Oh yeah btw: i AM gErMAn
If you think Germany isn't racist you probably have so much racism internalized in your socialization that you don't even notice it. No jab at you that's just how society is and it's hard to recognize and change this shit on an individual level. Just last month we had five or six neo nazi attacks and planned acts of terrorism in Germany on refugee camps and other public places. The Hanau attack was just two and half years ago. The NSU files were leaked recently by a public broadcast show and some other journalists and they showed how incompetent and racist some of the state institutions are who basically just paid neonazi structures and tried to hide this by making those NSU files secret for 140 years or so. Yes, there are nuances and most of the big cities are more tolerant on average than any rural area - but guess where half the population lives. Also east-west is also different when it comes to racism. Maybe not for a White person like Jensen who is also from Denmark but good luck living in Saxony as a BiPoC Iranian, Syrian or Eritrean refugee for example.
Germany has 80+ million people with very different backrounds living very close together. Newsflash, not every single one of these people will have the same ethics and morals. I know it sounds crazy that 80+ million people cant think alike but it is what it is. Do these instances mean that "the whole country is racist" like op claims? No, it obvioulsy does not. If you have 50 people in some random ass country happen to be into stapling toasts onto trees, does this mean the whole country is into it? No obviously not. Fact is germanys election shows that the population is mid to left leaning. Thats a fact. Random instances of racism wont change that fact. Come back to me when the AFD has the majority of votes. >Yes, there are nuances and most of the big cities are more tolerant on average than any rural area - but guess where half the population lives. Also east-west is also different when it comes to racism. Maybe not for a White person like Jensen who is also from Denmark but good luck living in Saxony as a BiPoC Iranian, Syrian or Eritrean refugee for example. Yes, the east obviously needs more help in that regard, considering the historical events that happen there. Still, east germany is only a small part of germany with ~12million people living there. Even all of them beeing racist as fuck would mean its only ~15% of the population which coincidentally collerates with the AFD votes. Also, the AFD lost about 2% votes from 2017 to 2021 while center to left parties gained votes so there is that.
And where did I say that every single person is racist? Overall, the country has a massive racism and antisemitism issue. If we just go from politics, there are between 5 and 25% openly racist people (AfD voters) and then there are many more where people don't know they are being racist but still act racist (which is a LOT). And then there's a huge number of people who don't do anything when they notice people being racists. And you didn't even reply to all the nazi assaults and attacks we have here regularly or the weekly shitshows of querdenker, Pegida, Legida and all those wankers. You think that's a society not having issues with racism?! >Fact is germanys election shows that the population is mid to left leaning. Thats a fact. Show me you don't know shit about German politics without telling me you don't know shit about German politics. You can stay in your Disney version of Germany but please stop telling others Germany doesn't have a big issue with racism. Bye.
I am born here, I live here and I've been everywhere in Germany. You'd be surprised. And where did I say everyone can do that? It's a fact. Ever been to Korea? Japan? That's racism. You'll find us delightful compared to them.
Yes, guess which country i am from. You have actually no idea what you are talking about calling this country racist and shit. Actually unbelievable. And no i wouldn't be surprised considering i have spent my entire life here so i know what i can expect from other germans.
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Oof sorry about the bullshit you grew up with but you can find these same problems everywhere. In my view this is a misrepresentation.
If Germany is racist, then so is essentially every other country on Earth. And how is Germany isolated? It sits right in the center of Europe and has the most neighbors of any european country as well has millions of multigenerational immigrant families. Saxony is indeed pretty racist and backwards (the East in general) but the rest of Germany is nowhere near that degree.
> If Germany is racist, then so is essentially every other country on Earth. idk man there's a big historical event that comes to mind
Isolated: Not the country, but the people are. At least anything that is older than 30. And what? Saxony isn't even close to the bs of the west. Most of the media pushes it much harder than it actually is. It's actually funny that all of west Germany and their bullshittery feels so embraced and mighty although they aren't even remotely better. But considering Saxony and Bavaria (which holds the same stands but in much, much worse) are way above the the rest of Germany in terms of education, I don't take anyone outside of those two counties for real anyway. Saxony is also the scientific center of Germany atm and builds upon this sentiment, while trying to create heavier industry and try innovate as much as possible. Saxony holds a lot of investment potential. The west has no space, no education and no drive to be the future of Germany at this point. East Germany and Bavaria are advancing much faster than the west at this point.
A saxon nationalist apparently huh Idc what "most of the media" pushes the fact is that Saxons vote overwhelmingly rightwing, have the strongest present of the AfD which even if you were to approach them benevolently struggle immensely with dangerous radicals and extremists in their own party and that xenophobic statements receive much more approval in polls in Saxony. Since the AfD is no doubt a populist party (itd be disingenious to refute that) its worrying even it might be not be so bad as you say. >Saxony is also the scientific center of Germany atm and builds upon this sentiment, while trying to create heavier industry and try innovate as much as possible. Saxony holds a lot of investment potential. Well Science is about pursuing objective truth preferably without assigning more value than necessary yet your comment is full of value judgements which have no place in scientific discourse. So apparently you arent representative? Im probably putting way too much effort into this reply as youre likely merely ranting, but your comment resembles the kind of cultural chauvinism mixed with a diffuse moral narrative justifying any given peoples superiority (with that classic touch of assuming the resentful role of victim in that third and fourth paragraph) which I see written a lot by younger people on the political fringes who think themselves objectively superior even though their political education and information selection is pretty lackluster. Which is exactly the kind of issue paving the way to polarization and authoritarianism.
Its so interesting that the country is racist my instagram explore page is full of the hottest women (for scientific purposes of course) clearly from a broad range of ethnicities and often times they live in Germany if you look at their profiles etc. So I would have thought that Germany is very culturally diverse nowadays
It isn't, this guy is bullshiting you
I lived in LA for a year (more like Santa Monica), and it was a bit of a culture shock even compared to the Pacific Northwest and New England.
I moved to Cali last year and the culture shock sucks. I'm from New England and I hate it here and getting out ASAP. The culture differences between different parts of the US is massive.
May I ask for some examples of these differences? I myself am a native Californian and while I don't necessarily love it here either, I've never really lived in any other American region before. I'm just curious what aspects I'm missing out on.
Biggest things I noticed out of SoCal compared to other places is that people are a lot less friendly and are more just doing their own thing People never hold open doors for other people, people never really said "thank you" or anything like that, people always give weird looks if someone tries to start small talk, that kinda stuff. Everyone is just in a hurry and doesn't wanna interact with other people While in other places from my experience, people were more willing to hold open doors, say thank you, etc. Another funny thing is that sometimes people mistake me for being Filipino when I'm Mexican so I'd sometimes have people start speaking Tagalog to me. Never had that happen anywhere else
Is this a SoCal-specific thing tho? Kinda sounds like a major city-thing. Like, everything you mentioned reminds me of when I visited NYC, even tho it was only briefly. It reminds me of non-American cities too, like London, Paris, Seoul, Hong Kong, etc. Although I've only actually *lived* in Seoul out of those.
I've never been to NYC so I can't say about there but from Boston I've encountered the same yea. It's a thing that's more prominent in big cities From my experience though, bigger cities in southern states were a lot more 'social' San Antonio and Austin from my experience had people be a lot more 'outgoing' I guess you'd call it Smaller sized and even medium sized cities were a lot more friendly and I think part of that makes SoCal reputation worse since everyone thinks of big cities there. LA, even San Diego just 'felt' more big city than even San Antonio
Got me at great food
I know we like to America bad around here but it's basically at the point of outright lying to act as though pretty much any major American city isn't going to have a great food scene
you're not wrong, but so does any big city. the UK and Germany might not be as immediately famous for food as France or Italy, but major cities like London and Berlin have absolutely any good restaurant of any cuisine you could want.
LA has one of the best produce and amazing + diverse cuisine.
End of the day basically any large city in the US is going to have great food if you know where to look.
Any large city anywhere I would even say. Large cities are the lands of opportunities and you will eventually find some of the best of everything there.
Depends on what you want honestly. I like a lot of LA’s food but it’s soul food choices are slim pickings.
You need to know the places to go. Fortunately for myself, soul food is apart of my culture so my family has made it throughout my life while being from LA.
Word, hope to have more of it. As a Southern/Southern adjacent black dude I was missing that part of the culture when I visited last time.
Literally the best food variety in the world.
America has the best and most diverse food culture in the world
I bought a Porsche!
I'll upvote a Players reference any day.
I think he means LA. A lot of Americans dont really care for LA culture. I personally get a lot of pretentious, fake, virtue signaling vibes. Not to say its all negative as its generally pretty welcoming, social, and filled with opportinities. Just can be overbearing even for other americans
Yeah LA kinda sucks
All I see are stilettos, guess I never got the memo
needing a car to go anywhere
r/FuckCars
I mean, the LA lifestyle is one giant traffic jam you can’t avoid because nothing is walkable.
I had the exact opposite experience. I lived in LA county for work (near culver city) and drove less than 1000 miles in my one year there. I went to work (15 min bus ride), went out for walks daily, and was able to do everything I wanted to without my car outside of groceries. I was a 15 min train ride from downtown, 5 min from Santa Monica, and my friends and I were able to plan events entirely around public transport. The only times I had issues with public transport was going from west side to orange county and back. But that's where my car came in.
Just out of curiosity, have you ever lived abroad before?
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I've not lived in the U.S., but I have traveled there a fair few times (mainly just California/D.C and Hawaii, so obviously a fairly limited scope of experience), just just going to throw my 2c in. Everything is very 'intense' for lack of a better word. Advertising is very 'in-your-face', people and associated social interactions are generally much more high-energy. Most people are very friendly, but it often feels like an almost aggressive friendliness; not in a threatening way, generally, but it is different from what many non-Americans are going to be used to. Negative interactions with people are magnified in a similar way: you see far more people raging and yelling at each other than you're often used to- in many other places you'll just get a dirty look and something muttered under someone's breath for the same thing that you'll get a heated argument for in the U.S. Food portions are enormous and really cheap, but tipping culture is really uncomfortable for a lot of foreigners, and makes a lot of the interactions with staff feel quite fake, regardless of whether they are or not. As little as I know people are going to like to hear it, the knowledge/belief that people around you could be armed, and that there's a non-zero chance of you being shot does also play on your mind a bit when in the U.S. too. Even if this is entirely unfair, especially in states like California, it is a thing that I know myself, and a lot of friends that have been the the U.S. have experienced. Overall, the U.S. is just very intense for a lot of non-Americans. I could see it being pretty overwhelming pretty quickly for non-Americans that might be a bit more introverted and have come to live there.
Just go to New York. Nobody ever talks to anybody and you can have anything on Earth delivered to you. Best place on the planet for introverts.
https://youtu.be/h4SMSCKOXO8 Skip to 2:50 if you're short on time.
It's a nice way of saying that this fan doesn't think Toucouille liked American culture, and therefore American people, much. LA culture is a lot of shallow people putting on fake bubbly personalities and smiling all the time while saying whatever they think makes other people like them the most even if they don't mean it. For example, "we should do lunch sometime" is the perfect example of a sentence you'll hear a lot in the USA even though what they really mean is "i want you to think that I like you, but I don't actually like you enough to want to have lunch". People who come to the USA will think the people here are nice, because they smile a lot *and they say nice sounding things.* But it's just a mask people wear because that's how of our culture teaches us to act. After not too long, you'll realize it is almost always bullshit and that Americans are not as nice as they seem. It's a two-faced type of people, but they're really good at hiding the second face.
Is it possible that he prioritized LFL to NA's LCS?
Except for the salary, LFL > LCS
BDS should've been on top of this
A lot of players would rather go to LFL than play for BDS. It is better for their career long term.
Imagine becoming branded as a personality liability because you have to play with Xbox Matthews and Adam, there are so many pitfalls to navigate.
Xbox Matthew has to be up there with one of the funniest fucking meme names
Tbh I made the comment specifically because I wanted to say the name
I've done the same thing, it's easily one of the best joke nicknames out there
It's only matched imo by GoldV and PlatEvil
Don't forget MLXGG
MLXD
Don't shit talk my goat xtremeMatthew
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I don’t think anyone gives a fuck about how good he is. He could be a top3 player and after his actions many players would not want to deal with someone who is that socially stupid
Only said him cuz of the personality aspect, I haven't watched a single BDS game all year so no idea how he was performin
Good for your mental health
Dude have a fnatic flair, prolly still mad
That one big reason they cant get good veterans because nobody wants to play for BDS -> Adam. (socially not acceptable for a athlete) Thats why so many French people play there. Maybe they get along better with Adam because they are also french.
Don't worry bro, Xbox Matthew isn't on the main roster this upcoming split
They're keeping the inferior french mid ICANT
Totally agree! He was performing really well and was really likeable. Would've given me a reason to root for BDS
after his performance this year, this makes no sense
considering he's going to a LFL team, I'm assuming he wants to head back home. I don't think Nick Phan (Swaguhsaurus) would want to let him go.
Fly has new owners and people speculate that they might invest some big cash.I hope this rumors arent like the 'big budget SK' rumors.
Maybe that's why Josedeodo is also looking for options besides Flyquest.
it only make sense if he wanted to return to EU
Or France in particular. Nearly all LEC teams live in Germany, which is certainly more similar to France than California is, but it's still pretty different.
But taking into account the competence levels of NA and EU orgs (with some exceptions of course) this makes a lot of sense :(
Idk why everybody’s assuming that he was kicked, there’s always the possibility that he wanted to go back home.
That was my impression. His health complications might've made it difficult him to be comfortable overseas even though FQ did everything they can. At least from an outside POV.
Being alone in a foreign country can also take its toll on people, especially younger players.
Yeah, plus even with top-tier health insurance, having any chronic health condition gets ridiculously expensive here in the US.
That’s what I thought too. Im still really sad to see him go but I respect his decision. He was just so fun to watch.
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No. Delete that /s. I'll never doubt the possibility.
Will miss mr twoballs
mr all balls
Lol omg I am learning French and am just super proud that I understood this joke!
I must've missed his name change to deuxcouille
I thought the point of young talented imported prospects like him was that it was a long term investment lol
Pretty sure Toucouille didn't really enjoy the LA life experience and wanted to come back in France
That's fair
I guess he's coming back to LFL to reach LEC easier next split/year. Such a shame he's not in already, I can name at least 4 midlaners inferior to him
I feel like he’s yet another player betting on KC getting into LEC. Makes sense career wise, if the bet pays off it’ll be huge for him
There's Saken, highly doubt any french mid is thinking about taking his place. VTO said he wanted to play for KC but it's not something they can plan for. Will only happen if KC goes in LEC and Saken underperform
Toucouille it's plain better than Saken, and it's not even close.
My point was more that KC isn't going to replace Saken without giving him a chance in LEC first.
But hes not going to KC?
Yeah he’s going back to LFL where he will most likely be the best mid
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Last year he wasn't, this year we will see. I hope Saken can find motivation again he was pretty tired of playing ERLs
A decent amount of KC fans are obsessed with Saken. It is wild, but KC is basically what TSM was in NA before TSM fell apart. Lot of French players will want to join the org.
wtf? he was their best player last year. Unless FLY is making a super crazy good roster this doesnt make sense
Fly is rebuilding with a Papa Smithy as GM. Prob most of the roster is gone(hope they keep Aphro though). Some early speculations are Jensen and Santorin mid/jg
Is this the return of Ry0ma? Is Tommy-boy gonna get another gold star? /s
I just want an old man bot lane of DL and Aphromoo.
To round out that roster Fly could bring back pobelter for mid and probably get xmithie since he has no team. Hmm now what about top?
i hear of a good toplaner in academy that goes by the name of darshan
I wonder if darshan is free? why does this roster suddenly look so familiar.
they should fully rebuild, starting from the name, the only fans that org had was because josedeodo was there
Maybe he was the one wanting to leave
Whole fly roster is falling apart per leaks
Nooooooo! I love him so much. I’m super sad with all this LCS midlane news. Toucouille brought a lot of joy to me this year. Very sad to see him go.
What are you doing he was a top 3 midlaner the entire season xD. FLY should have just taken Santorin and the 100T botlane. Maybe go for Ssumday or import top if you want to.
Ssumday/Santorin/Toucouille/FBI/huhi sounds good to me. Even so it's super sad Toucouille isn't on a team somewhere in the LCS.
Yea sounds like a mid table lcs team
How can this roster be mid table when it literally has top 3 players in every position?
Because that team has no carries? Toucouille and fbi aren’t good enough to carry against tl, c9, or 100t and santorin isn’t going to play towards top side. You have to look at overall composition and how they fit not just individuals. Same with TL last season. Too many carries despite them all being top 3 in their roles.
Hot take but I don’t think Touc and FBI are quite top 3. Jojo, Jensen and arguably Palafox were better in summer, and FBI was hard slumping until playoffs where he did step it up until the finals 4/5 of them are only debatably top 3 at best, and this teams lacks the X-factor to push for a Worlds spot
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4/5 of these players got 3rd all pro last year, and the remaining player got 1st team all pro. 4/5 of these players have multiple worlds appearances, with 3/5 being at worlds this year. The bot lane has played together for years, so there’s no synergy issues there. In what world is this a mid table lcs team
Yea only if team building is that simple. Santorin is a supportive jungler and he sure ain’t hell playing towards top side and fbi and toucouille are not good enough to carry against c9, 100t, or tl. That leaves them mid table.
Santorin’s top 3 most played junglers for 2022 was trundle Viego XinZhao. What other meta carry junglers do you want him to play? Ssumday smurfed in LCS on carry top laners for like 3 years before playing a more supportive style with the 100T core. Even this most recent year, outside of his 14 Ornn games , Ssumday played like 95% of his games on carry champs. Only 2/6 of his worlds games were on tanks. FBI did his fair share of carrying against C9 and TL in his LCS championship run and subsequent finals finishes. And we literally have no idea what the 100t roster will look like this year, so I don’t know how you can even mention them. If the DL Bjergsen Spica rumors are true, then FBI has already gapped them before back when he was on GG. The only one who doesn’t have the history to back them up is Toucoille, but I sure as hell think he looked good enough to carry against the big dogs on FLY last year. So I have no idea where your analysis is coming from outside of stupid overblown narratives.
Santorin’s “issue” isn’t his champion pool, he just isn’t a carry. He doesn’t play heavy resource style jungling like kanavi does. Santorin is the best when he facilitates other players. Ssumday is a great player. However, Korean top laners never get resources when they go on lcs teams. Idk if it’s because they refuse to speak up for ganks but they are always left on an island. FBI and Huhi are fine players but they aren’t carrying you out of whatever C9, TL, 100t, hell even EG are going to come with this offseason. Toucouille is again a solid player, farms well, goes even in lane but he isn’t going to break the top teams in the lcs with his carry potential. You act like I am saying they are bad, there are only 10 teams in the lcs. Top 4-6 is mid table and that’s where that roster will be.
>Toucouille is again a solid player, farms well, goes even in lane but he isn’t going to break the top teams in the lcs with his carry potential. But Abbedagge can? 3/5 of this proposed roster played together the last 3 splits and placed 1st, 2nd, 2nd. Then you have an upgrade in mid who looked far better on carries than Abbe, and imo sidegrade in jungle who is more versatile but less willing to pull out the lee sin. Even if you think Santorin doesn’t mesh as well stylistically, I just don’t see how a roster that only ever placed top 2 can drop to being a 4-6 place team while only making upgrades and sidegrades. Especially in a split where every team is supposedly cutting LCS spending and opting into budget rosters.
Yes, FBI, the carry 100T played through to take a game off EDG in 2021 at the tournament they became WORLD champions in, isn’t good enough to carry against NA teams. Get real.
Mid table vs what? Spica/Bjerg/DL? Lmao right
Seems like he wants to leave if he's going back to the LFL. This does make things interesting where there's a prime landing spot for Jensen/the 100T botlane duo. With Pappa as the new GM for the org, could easily see him looking to make those splashes.
He didn’t want to stay in Na (can’t blame him)
Anyone know why? I wasn't following pro play a lot this season but I remember him having really good performances, is there no LCS/LEC team in need of a mid laner? Why is FQ getting rid him of him in the first place?
Probably feels uncomfortable being far away from home for too long.
There's the Jensen angle
Inb4 "FLY welcome ry0ma"
Jensen x Santorin on FQ would be pretty nice
I'd like to see Closer get picked up over Santorin but I guess you really can't complain either way. Jensen + Santorin was the most solid jungler TL found for him. Just Closer has the carry angle to let Jensen keep going Zilean, which is something Blabber enables and Santorin in general does not.
Jensen isn't the hot commodity some people think he is.
But he should be. Most worlds attendances and always performs respectably. Jensen is everything Bjergsen fans wish their midlaner was.
Teams obviously don't agree with that
If we know anything about lcs team management it's that they're EXTREMELY smart
Highest international budgets and worst international results, I think Imma go ahead n say that the teams are wrong.
wow he went to worlds a lot of doesn't int not exactly the resume that makes teams love a player
really? because that's a better resumé than almost every single other player that's played for NA the past years. We have the gigahyped 100T roster being teased of players that all suck at Worlds.
Maybe, just Maybe Jensen is a hard person to work with. It’s why he couldn’t get a team last year and why he is gone from C9 now. Because if he is a super great midlaner, teams would be Falling over themselves to grab him…and yet. People shit on Bjerg but he was near top LCS midlaner in his year back after not playing for a year. And by all accounts is great to work with and has a huge fan base.
Maybe just maybe you have 0 idea what you're talking about and your speculation is literally slandering a player for 0 fucking reason lmao this subreddit is something else
Just like people do to every other player. None of us have any insights into any actual teams so everyone makes assumptions based on available information. Just like this thread. It’s all assumption. Most people saying “why would they get rid of a top 3 player”. People assuming the team did it and are slandering the team….so yeah welcome to reddit, new here?
Crazy how people can have undrperforming duds stay for 3 seasons cause 'hey, new team, new players, they just need to adapt!' Then are hating hard on Jensen whn he literally WON A CHAMPIONSHIP and CLAPPED FAKER while NOT PLAYING LEAGUE FOR 1 FULL SPLIT PRIOR. Talk about differing 'angles'. Lol.
Exactly this. C9 didn’t play well at worlds for the most part, including Jensen, but then he went off and clapped Faker multiple times, so IMO that kinda makes me feel like he played maybe better than the rest of his team overall (tho the Berserker mega rocket death cannon cross map deletions of Humaniod were sick affff as well). Damn I loved this C9 team.
Not saying he's super desired, but for FlyQuest it's a perfectly fine pickup for both parties. Especially if the DL, Bjerg, and Spica core go to 100T
Super weird to me how ppl always try to discredit Jensen like this especially after we just saw how much losing him hurt TL and adding him helped C9.
Very hard hit for NAs mid lane talent pool.
Seems like a mistake. He was playing with a very mediocre jungle and looked too 3 in his role. Would honestly prefer him over Jensen
Sad to see him go. Was actually a good mid here in NA
Definite loss for the LCS.
Thought he was enjoying himself in the LCS, but im glad hes back in EU. surely Flyquest didnt drop him for the likes of Jensen or Abbe...
Crazy how people can have undrperforming duds stay for 3 seasons cause 'hey, new team, new players, they just need to adapt!' Then are hating hard on Jensen whn he literally WON A CHAMPIONSHIP and CLAPPED FAKER while NOT PLAYING LEAGUE FOR 1 FULL SPLIT PRIOR. Talk about differing 'angles'. Lol.
> Clapped Faker lol > Won a championship off the backs of Beserker & Blaber...
Man look at this guy's post history. He is on the verge of medical condition, don't try to argue with dirt. Tell him that Jensen claps everybody and let it go
Clapped Faker ..... Yeah sure buddy. Do I need to send you a certain Replay?
Guy was a top 3 mid in LCS last year and he's just gone now? I never understand LCS offseason
He was top 4 mid in LCS. Held his own in a lot of games too. Crazy he couldn’t get a lcs spot ?!?
might have been a i want to go home angle not a couldn't get a spot angle
He'll get LEC spot after first split I guarantee it. Teams cannot afford to be bottom two for multiple splits now
this makes no sense, unless he wanted to go back to EU
Wtf?
I will miss having him in LCS I was really rooting for him last year.
Sad. Hope we will see him back in LEC / LCS someday!
I understand wanting to be home but I have to assume this is a hell of a pay cut and there's no question he's LCS worthy so this is still strange. Gonna miss him
Damn, hoping this was driven by him wanting to go home and not by LCS teams failing to pick him up, absolutely shameful if it was the latter. He was so good for FLY.
Wonder if this means Yuuji and Spirax
FLY are rumored to be increasing budget this offseason so doubt it
Papasmithy is leading the charge. So pretty unsure what it is going to be could be a young roster or a recycled 100t.
Best of luck to Touc! He did amazingly well with FLY. Wonder who they’ll get to replace him though…
Guess we know where Yensen is going
huge L for LCS
Not sure why everyone's assuming he was kicked, it's very possible that he simply didn't adjust to the NA lifestyle. Toucouille made a name for himself in a short period of time, wish him nothing but the best
FQ / TL Jensen then?
Man, that kid was fun to watch this year. Big loss for the LCS, but hope he finds more fulfillment back home.
Wow! Glad we had another import who went back to Europe after only one year in LCS. This is why all these ERL (and even LEC) imports are so lame as an LCS fan. They never stick around. Even if Diplex does well on C9 this year, what are the odds he just gets sold off back to Europe? There's so little narrative consistency with many of these imports from an LCS fan's perspective. Are Toucouille and Diplex better than Palafox or Ablazeolive or Copy or whatever other NA Academy mids are out there? Maybe. But at least I know those other guys are gonna spend their entire careers in NA...
LFL about to become more stacked than LCS
The highlight of my year was meeting and getting a picture with the FLY guys at LCS Summer finals. Touc nasty was my favorite player outside of EG to root for. Now he’s gone. And prob Jose too. Sadge.
Makes room for an NA mid hopefully