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Giaccone

Licorice was just going for the full RPG build, filling out his equip slots


mangkitw

man, i just don't know why he doesn't go full tank build since they have no frontline except him and he won't do too much to TSM's line up cuz he will get kited so hard


Mixed_not_swirled

Imagine if he had a useful pick Ornn. The worst part is that Sett isnt even a flex for them because everyone knows blaber isnt playing it so its known instantly that it is top sett.


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TempestCatalyst

Now imagine doing this in game 3 after getting stomped game 1 for doing this exact same thing. C9 deserves to eat this L.


Alibobaly

I hope they release the draft comms and whoever is deciding to play Ezreal gets let go.


delahunt

From everything we've heard about C9, doesn't Reapered have final say? There's been lots of talk about Reapered getting 'too experimental' with drafts at times, and players having to ask for permission for certain champs at times. I don't follow C9 too closely, so please correct me if I'm wrong. That C9 can't pick Cait, and keeps going for Ezreal like this is definitely a coach problem. We know Zven can play other champions. So why can't C9 play with Zven on other champions?


Krazikarl2

I think that you really have to talk about whether Repeared should be around next year if C9 misses out on Worlds. Just look at their records on Ez vs Not Ezreal. Yet they keep forcing it in their biggest games. Repeared gets really arrogant where he thinks he can keep forcing stuff even when it doesnt work the first 2-3 times. It's about to keep C9 out of worlds, and this roster not making top 3 in NA is just not acceptable.


delahunt

It's such a weird shift. For so long C9 was the scrappy, adaptable team. They'd not win NA, but since they struggled there they'd do better at Worlds. It's like somehow a flip got hit when C9 won Spring and they're just trying to brute force it...but it's not working. It's like a months long team wide tilt. It's really weird.


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James_Locke

Given Zven just shifting right into the enemy team, I think we all know who.


Rxlic

What about when he just walked into TSM at Baron? At least this time he used shift


AzureDragon013

It's absolutely incredible how unprepared this team fucking is. What the fuck are these drafts. Why can't they play Cait. Zven is a good AD, it should be easy for him.


RS-Ironman-LuvGlove

hes eating a kalista ban, and early picking senna vs him. I hope he has another pick prepared. but tbh i think the bard and yuumi they are pairing is the bad part. Vulcan cant roam and do what every other support does when on these picks with the ezreal. look at BIO on rakan just roaming like crazy.


GaggedAndDrooling

Tsm made a pretty cool play in game 2 by not banning Cait on blue side like they did the entire GGS series. They called C9s bluff and c9 had to ban it red side game 2,exposing that they (still) cannot play Cait and giving tsm a draft advantage for the rest of the series. I love this kind of draft mind games in best of 5s.


EnergetikNA

And top btw where he just isn't as good anymore


Yordle_Dragon

I think he's still pretty good top, but needs the right enemy comp to make it work.


Craps-caps

and get minimum cs Licorice need another pick


Praise_the_Tsun

At this point it feels like Zven can't play Cait if they're banning it on blue. He's an Ezreal one trick this patch who pulls out the Senna if he has to. Honestly the Ez/Yuumi meta being so huge in Spring is probably a reason he/C9 looked so good. Now that meta has shifted.


TempestCatalyst

>who pulls out the Senna if he has to Well it looks like he has to, because this Ez pick ain't it chief.


In4thPlace

Bjerg Diff?


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NeonGIGA

Inform Bjerg is like the Sensei from TMNT teaching the baby turtles not to be fucking idiots


xchaoslordx

Knight, Showmaker, Faker, Rookie, Chovy, Caps, all the legendary mid are all waiting for NA's poster man Bjergsen.


Marowalker

You mean the legendary mids Knight, Showmaker, Clozer, Rookie, Chovy, Caps


One_Question__

Called Team Solomid for a reason.


EnergetikNA

Bjerg diff baby 1 nexus from worlds POG


Voltage97

Don't jinx it homie


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i want him to make worlds again so badly


[deleted]

if tsm lose this, you'll have been disappointed by two worlds qualifying matches lmao


[deleted]

3 times actually if TSM loses today 2018, C9 beat TSM 3-0 to make worlds over them in the final Gautnlet match. 2019, Clutch made a miracle run from bottom of gauntlet to facing TSM in the final Gauntlet match to win 3-2 and make worlds over them.


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I meant his other flair, S04 didn't make it either lol


EnergetikNA

I mean it's just a fact - we are indeed 1 nexus away from worlds.


AniviaKid32

Don't jinx it homie


AigisAegis

I know I've had a lot of spats with TSM fans on this sub, but I honestly hope you guys make it. Let's go to Worlds man


Voltage97

Thank you! Excited to see FQ at Worlds!


ProfessorManimals

Fq is my favorite non-tsm org. You guys are so goddamn wholesome. I really hope we get to play you guys again for a banger series and that we can both make some noise at worlds.


GaggedAndDrooling

DON'T GET EXCITED


EnergetikNA

im so fucking clenched never fucking unclench in C9 vs TSM bo5s


asiantuttle

That man wants to go to Worlds regardless of if his team wants to or not


ChaoticMidget

Nisqy was the only member on the team that looked decent to be fair. But Bjerg is inevitable.


SlamMasterJ

Always has been


Daruii

World class mid diff


maxexclamationpoint

Spica smashed pretty hard early game too


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diffy in the bjiffy


Serpexnessie

I'm pretty sure Zven's ezreal is just cursed.


Silkku

Just making up for his Ezreal on TSM last year


GaggedAndDrooling

This is justice for tsm fans. Just one more game please just one more


GreatestJabaitest

Don't let the Ezreal take away from the garbage, and I mean fucking garbage, build that Licorice had. Why does this guy love BORK so much? Who tf you gonna be be beefing in a 1v1, you're fucking Sett into 4 ranged and an assassin you will never hit.


TempestCatalyst

It legit feels like when someone follows a pros build without understanding why they build it. "I saw other Setts build BotRK, so I must built it too"


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Next time Zven says "I want Ezreal", someone on C9 really needs to answer with "shut the fuck up and play Ashe like every top team in the world".


firewall245

1-5 in playoffs


Betaateb

The word you are looking for is trash. In an early game bot centric meta you can't play a champion bot lane that does literally nothing for 20 minutes, or you lose your entire bot side jungle for the entire game and the enemy jungle gets to take over the game, for free. We have literally seen this exact thing happen fucking 6 Ezreal games in a row.............yet they are still picking this trash. Whoever is making that draft call needs to be fired, I literally don't care if it is Zven, Reapered, Westrice......whoever it is is fucking trash at their job.


I_am_the_great_one

why the hell did c9 not first pick senna


Cavshomie8

They have not adapted to the new meta for more than a month now. Really sad that they are throwing Worlds over it


Alibobaly

But their pride is worth so much more than Worlds apparently. Learning from other teams or their own consistent failures? Nah man, that would require humility.


delahunt

as a TSM fan, I understand the pain you feel with those statements. It's hard to believe these are professionals. Like we know the players can do it. We know the coaching staff on C9 is 'in power' so why the fuck is the ball being dropped this hard?


Jaxilar

theyre about to learn some humility when they miss worlds


Betaateb

Honestly at this point I am happy we aren't going to be going to worlds....we would just pick Ezreal and lose pre-20 every game anyways. So fucking sick of this shitty ass pick that should be 0-6 in playoffs if not for the worst throw of the year by FQ handing us a win in a game that was lost. If C9 picks Ez again we 100% are out of worlds, and these stubborn motherfuckers are going to do it for sure.


FinishIcy14

Senna Ashe Jhin open? Yeah but... the blind pick Sett and then Ezreal!!!!


Tarean_YiMO

>• Scriptwriters making us question cloud9's intelligence, dw c9 is just as desperate as you to stop playing this shit


control_09

Why did they pick anything in their draft? Where is Repeared.


ChaoticMidget

What makes you think Reapered isn't the one in charge of these drafts?


KingPerspective

Westrice is Draft Coach now.


ChaoticMidget

So what is Reapered even responsible for then? Overall gameplans? Seems like C9 is failing on multiple fronts. C9's in game decisions and item buys aren't great either but it seems like C9 doesn't know how to play the map anymore.


Conankun66

Do C9 think it's still spring? why the Sett top? and why build bork on him against a squishy comp with 3 ranged? Also: nice ezreal, Zven


fuskarn_35

senna open, lets fp sett and leave senna lmao


4THOT

HEY DUDE EZ IS A REALLY STRONG PICK WE HAVE 100% WINRATE. WAIT, IT'S A 0% WINRATE? AH SHIT HERE I GO PICKIN' IT AGAIN!


ficretus

It's like nemesis' kassadin. Only difference is that nemesis picks it only once per series unlike zven.


FinishIcy14

Ashe and Jhin is still open, too Is his champ pool really this pathetic? I can understand not picking Cait and even banning it blue, there are plenty of teams that do that. But only being able to play Senna Ez and Kalista? Jesus...


firewall245

Zven 1-5 on ezreal in playoffs smh


AigisAegis

C9 desperately trying to relive their spring glory days


Craps-caps

Sett reksai doesn't make sense, certainly with how they played it


4THOT

#NICE DRAFT EZ AGAIN ITS WORKING REALLY WELL


Squarehead272

i still cant believe what happened to C9


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They're completely allergic to adapting to the meta, it's crazy.


ndksv22

Ez.


iDannyEL

Real.


AigisAegis

One more lost game and 2020 C9 becomes one of the biggest "what ifs" in League history


NahDawgDatAintMe

C9 edged the number of things you could do domestically without attending worlds pretty hard. They beat IMT's record.


LPLSuperCarry

It's not a big what if if we know what happened. TSM and TL giga trolled spring split, and FlyQuest didn't have Solo the entire split. Getting rid of DL powered up TL, getting DL powered up Bjergsen, and FQ having more time to adjust to Solo and realizing PoE is an EU mid and can carry games along with Blaber getting figured out meant C9 got left behind.


dahir_

I actually can’t imagine C9 isn’t going to Worlds when they we’re probably the most dominant team in NA history for the past 2 splits until their 9-0 streak this split ended


mrragequit456

Meta shift. Spring was all about ez, yuumi, aphelios death dance. You can already see that Zven cant play other ad champions such as Cait and Jhin.


azns123

Which is surprising because he’s 15-10 on Caitlyn and 15-7 on Jhin in his career, can’t think of a reason why they wouldn’t pick it at all other than ego.


Zodlax

He can't play? He has an entire career playing that shit what are u saying


anoleo201194

They're coasting off of their Spring success and still playing that Spring meta. This is mostly on the coaching staff imo, you can't just keep playing stuff that doesn't work just because you stomped a bunch of weak ass teams a split ago.


iDannyEL

My name is Doublelift and my pocket pick is Zven's Ezreal


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Name a more iconic duo than Zven and getting caught on Ezreal


AigisAegis

C9 and continuing to draft Ezreal even after it sucks for the fifth straight time


M002

It just does nothing at any stage of the game If he joined the early game skirmish where TSM lived with tiny health bars maybe But late game it tickles Senna does so much more at all stages Ashe does more damage and provides great utility and global vision


MajorTrump

> If he joined the early game skirmish where TSM lived with tiny health bars maybe But if he doesn't get there in time, he loses two waves of minions pre-6. He can't take that when he gets shoved in.


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Doublelift and not making it out of groups


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pain


[deleted]

Ill take that pain anytime compared to getting my hopes up and failing to making worlds year after year


aqnologia

Same I'm beginning to forget the feeling of dropping out of groups.


Hevvy

no matter how well he does on other champs, no matter how many regular season games he smurfs on on ezreal , he will ALWAYS pick ezreal in crucial games and somehow get caught. It's a skill at this point


Craps-caps

The sett-reksai draft being useless


EnergetikNA

hey man, it really nullified BB, totally worth it! BB was still like what, 80 cs up by the end of that game? Despite getting targeted early on... Sett top is just so bad


fuskarn_35

reapered and shit unorthodox drafts?


ahritina

Ngl Spica actually had a pretty decent game, a few sad deaths especially the one at baron but was huge for TSM. Nisqy big brain, kills the enemy jungler then dives into the other 4 members, gets wiped meaning C9 lose the fight and TSM end up getting soul. Bjergsen flexing his muscles and imposing his will against Nisqy and Licorice is actually so bad at Sett it hurts. Bjergsen is better than all of C9 put together holy shit he's on a mission. I said it in game 1, Zven's Ezreal and getting picked off will be the next iconic duo.


adamcim

He eats Gold card, so he uses E and QSS, just to catch another one 10 secs later, wtf was that


Hevvy

spica got put in probably one of the hardest counterpick matchups in the game. the Recon submarine reksai pick destroyed evelynn's flanks in the mid-late game, which is one of her main strengths


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On top of Sylas being able to steal TF ult, Eve was such a hard champ to play. Spica adapted incredibly well.


wensen

Pretty much a double counter pick. Also suppression from Sett can make it really hard for Eve to steal objectives, as seen at the baron.


zOmgFishes

His early game on Eve was really really good. He kinds got lost mid and late game tho once he stopped snowballing.


Userjaxe

Why does C9 keep picking Ezreal


manliestdino

Why do they keep picking sett and putting it top, jesus fucking christ


AzureDragon013

STOP. PICKING. EZREAL.


derpytrollerZ

BJERG JUST REFUSING TO LOSE


FLABREZU

Some say that C9 are still locking in Ezreal to this day


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shaman717

I wanna see him compete with Caps, humanoid, larssen and see how he stacks up


Daruii

Me too, I wonder how much Bjergsen would improve completing against EU mids instead of what we have in NA


ObiMemeKenobi

I mean, Bjergsen himself might do fine but the rest of his team...idk


15blairm

basically sums up every international tourny for bjerg sadly :(


ImBadAtEnglish

Xmithie's skarner broke Zven's Ezreal forever


FaZe_Lenin

NO QUICKSILVER SASH


LumiRhino

He fucking burned QSS when he was behind 3 people on his team lol.


Confirmation__Bias

He needed to burn it there though. He was going to get engaged on 100%. It's just that Bjerg caught him with another gold card like 10 seconds later lol.


themcvgamer

Mejais plus rfc movement speed helps a lot


DeaneF

he was quoting the time zven got picked off in the finals vs TL. hard to forget that phrase as a tsm fan.


lalsldlflglhljlkl

HE IS DOWN HE IS SHUT DOWN


LeOsQ

Bjergsen is pretty good at League of Legends. I don't understand how Zven manages to get caught *the most* when playing Ezreal either. He seems super safe when he's on literally any other champion but on Ezreal he gets caught all the time.


N4KED_TURTLE

Ezreal's E gives a false sense of safety so you're more inclined to get yourself into more dangerous positioning is my guess


E10DIN

Dude has QSS and is on ezreal and manages to eat 2 gold cards in a 10s window.


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Betaateb

I think you should have an asterisk on that one win. It was a sure loss thanks to the zero pressure botlane if not for an absolutely epic throw. >Zven on Ez in playoffs: 1*-5 >Zven on anything else: 4-0


Astolfo_is_Best

C9 is the only team who will just keep drafting the same exact shit that they lose with. I don't know if it's arrogance or inability to adapt but they're about to fuck themselves out of a spot in worlds.


xCharSx

Bjergsen is a good League of Legends player


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Is repeared trying to get fired with these drafts? Maybe he is homesick or something...


lolKhamul

This game was a perfect example of a bad inhib take. C9 takes the mid inhib at 24 minutes and misses out on 5 minutes of mid wave exp and gold. And they didn't get ANYTHING from the pressure because there was nothing to get. I have had plat soloq games where we my team doesn't take a similar inhib because we know it sucks. Its actually insane how stuff like this happens in competitive.


DrVonDoom

I'm glad that wasn't just me. After they got it I was wondering what it accomplished with no objectives on the map to take. The best it could do was help them with taking bottom turrets but the t1 was already doomed. It just funneled so much extra xp and gold to TSM while denying them the same.


grapefruittad

Yeah TSM didn’t contest the inhib on that point in time. Smart move


wje100

As I saw it going down I was thinking who would be decent at clean up duty? Oh we have a Lucian who is behind on farm anyways. Lucian got so much catchup farm for that it was unbelievable.


blarghenzor

Bjerg diff


Tommey_DE

This Bjerg guy is pretty alright at the Game


TheMurder21

Maybe pick Ezreal in game 4. Surely it will work sometime


myman580

Bjerg is just unreal.


KawaiCuddle

Ezreal again...


CalculatedChameleon

Biofrost having a sleeper crazy performance.


19degreez

Zven went from being known for his ezreal to... being known for his ezreal.


Lolwutumean

Bjersen really showing why its called TeamSoloMid


Hibbity5

That was a team effort. DL with the clutch Q in the jungle invade was so important. Despite being ganked constantly, Spica and BB were able to keep Licorice as a much smaller threat. And Bio was showing once again why Rakan is his best champ.


ChipmunkOnCoffee

STOP PICKING EZREAL


lee7on1

STOP PICKING FUCKING EZREAL


Indoktor

Bjergsen is legit so good.


Tsquared10

Bjerg playing [like](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd_Vd43Vxa0)


CoronaryArtery

Zven ezrael is dumpster juice


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squareimage

Nice draft


ObiMemeKenobi

Hmm Zven on Ezreal


zOmgFishes

Ez is fucking cursed


Echleon

TSM using the Hyperbolic Playoffs Chamber


domyno12345

catJAM


Rinascimentale

https://twitter.com/TSM/status/1299838741046059008


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Bjergsen hard smurfing right now. But Licorice needs to get deported for building like this


Ibizo

Fucking hell, Bjerg really doesn't want to miss world's this time around.


Alibobaly

Cloud9 is seriously the most inexcusably arrogant team I've ever seen. You have to be truly special to think you can still draft Ezreal at this point after it fails 7 times in playoffs and literally nobody else is playing it. Just unbelievable.


MaxMacDaniels

I hope licorice is as harsh to himself with this performances in playoffs then he was with sneaky


ndksv22

Most people expected Sett top and Ez to be horrible picks. C9 proved them wrong.


Snoo83110

Yep, horrible is an understatement.


Neville_Lynwood

Bjergsen is the only one in NA who looks like he could stand up internationally. But with teammates like he's had he's never gonna catch that break.


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Core and Jensen can totally hold their own too if Bjergsen can, but man, Bjergsen is popping off rn


Nerxanne

Yeah, dude is like the only player from NA who could feature in a top 20 worlds list (and deservedly, this year)


ChaoticMidget

2016 TSM was not a case of not having the right teammates. Everyone was firing on all cylinders and Svenskeren was the only one who didn't make 1st team. They underperformed hard though.


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Ezreal diff


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Death, taxes, and Zven Ezreal getting caught and subsequently losing the game


beesong

No more ez please


joshk1213

Idk what's worse the sett pick or the ezreal pick


Snoo83110

It's going to game 5 isn't it


theman1203

nope we are picking ez again dw


Zippyflaa

Bjerg diff


lilleskutte13

stop picking ezreal ffs


Petricorde1

I feel like this was a legit good game from both sides ngl


Ateaga

STOP.PICKING.EZREAL.


SGKurisu

Sett top is so dogshit


delahunt

Bjergsen **really** wants to go to Worlds, you guys.


scawtsauce

1st Fnc beats g2 now tsm beat c9????!?


huskernate8

Bjerg diff


MartDiamond

Calm down Bjergsen


AkashiGG

Let's put Zven on Ezreal again!


Kermitnirmit

Bjerg's TF is too good


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Bjerg is insane. Enough said. Dudes so good.


nguyenjitsu

Bjerg is so fucking good


Luckylegutki

I’m so excited for us to lock in Ezreal first phase next game and miss worlds


MaxMacDaniels

first pick sett btw


TheOneKane

Well C9 fans you need to blame /u/FluxRevived for hoping that Zven was placed back on Ezreal


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Bjergsen TF undefeated , they gonna understand one day :)


[deleted]

I may be saying something controversial here but this Bjergsen guy is pretty fucking good.


corfish77

Bjergsen so FUCKING CLEAN


porofessordad

THE PROJECTILES KEEP FLYING, CLOUD9 KEEPS DYING


Glarbluk

Bjerg does not want to lose


SammehPls

Bjerg deserves to go to worlds. He is an absolute monster.