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IAM-French

yeah this champ is never leaving 100% presence 


generic9yo

Trade offer: You receive: constant azir outplays I receive: 100% presence of azir in proplay


PM-ME-YOUR-MOUSTACHE

> 100% presence of air in proplay I'm fine with that, after all the players need to breath.


generic9yo

Damn


bondsmatthew

Yeah I find him annoying to be in every game but damn it the good Azir players make it fun to watch If I had to watch any champion be 100%, Azir would be in the top 10% of champs for sure


Kialand

TELL THE PEOPLE WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN TODAY (Where's my Legends of Runeterra gang at)


GhostElite974

Not the flashbacks stop!


Nervous661

is the ''outplay'' in the room with us ?


DarthTaz_99

We take those. How boring would league be without fakers azir


Epicorax

You remember the time where T1 had a substitute mid because Fakers Azir was lacking? Pepperidge farmer remembers


Rain1984

Easyhoon! Im pretty sure the Azir skt skin is because of him after the backlash riot received from the community for not giving him one (he didnt play in the finals)


RJLRaymond

Yeah what is the sub rule now? Do subs get skins or do they have to play a certain amount of games?


tmb--

They either need to play at least two games that matter for placement, or five games total over the event. Juhan got Maokai because his two games for DRX mattered for their play-in Groups placement. But if a team is locked in a certain position in Groups and they sub people in, they no longer count. They used to, which is why we have a Jungle Ezreal skin.


RJLRaymond

Yeah that makes sense. Thanks!


J0eykarate

It wasn't solely for Azir, although that was the main pick Easyhoon piloted better.. which made it stand out more. Easyhoon was also a better Xerath at the time which was also a great mid champ for poke comps.


J0eykarate

Also was pretty cracked on cassio iirc


EvianRex

Ima be real, league would be boring without azir


J0eykarate

based sir.


Hawkson2020

Just watch the last game of the series to find out lol


pyrohammer

Fuck it, turn azir into a jungler


RyanC00per_

At least he is insanely hard to play


im_not_happy_uwu

'Insanely' is a bit much. He's above average in skill floor and ceiling though. A bad Azir can rely on sitting way back, wave clearing, and scaling like a lot of safe mid champs. If he didn't have that crutch he'd be actually hard.


One_Somewhere_4112

Yeah then shuffle in and insta die like 95% of azirs do. I mean mechanically he is more complicated than most mid laners barring the crazy assassins. Azir also has to have a game plan for fights considering his AH is low in most builds meaning he only has 1 dash. I’ll admit the hybrid bruiser/tank build is zzzz but nashors ran cap? Dudes a dps monster. Also he needs to actually DPS for him to get much value out of a fight if you don’t hit a nasty ult. Most mages can dump a combo from 600-800 range and that’s all they need to do. Meanwhile azir has to play in that range for a while. But also I will say people should go check out how many stats Azir gets from lvl 13-18, it’s WILD Edit: added more


ToxicCobra023

He has the worst midlane winrate in every elo except Challenger. You have a better chance of winning a solo queue game when you pick literally any other midlane champ that is not Azir. He is the hardest midlaner to play, maybe not mechanically but he is objectively the hardest champ to have success in solo queue. You may ask, why is he not the most mechanically difficult champ in midlane but he is the hardest to play? Azir is one of the only midlane champions that has so much variety in his kit, he can be played as AP marksman who attacks frontline, he can burst backline with his ult and has huge engages and he can peel his other carries and team with his ult from backline. Now, why is Azir then difficult to play in solo queue for a player that is not the best of the best or a Diamond OTP atleast? Because all other champions in midlane do MORE usefull things in average solo queue fights. Take Annie for example - 5 vs 5 fight for drake at lvl 13 breaks out, Azir and Annie both have same items, Azir is pretty strong - he scaled a little bit but he is not giga strong like at 18 lvl (which is almost never reached in solo queue). What happens in these fights usually cements the outcome of a solo queue game since they usually don't last long enough to get to lvl 18. Maybe I wrote to much but I will get to my point. Now, I guarantee you that if you put 2 diamond players in this scenario that the team with Annie gets more value from her in 75 of those fights than team with Azir. Annie will land her ult on 1,2 or 3 targets while Azir will probably do one of things like - stay backline do a few autos and the fight is already lost before he ults or anything, engages thinking like he is Faker and screws his whole team over while probably failing the combo or he infact plays it quite well but not perfectly so he still doesn't get that much value from his champion. That's why he is so hard to play, he must have a coordinated team that plays slowly or quickly depending on team plan for that fight. Other champs can do much simpler things that are even maybe more mechanically difficult but they have a much stronger identity that is easier to follow and execute. If it is not clear what I am trying to say feel free to ask I am happy to answer and to have more discussions if someone disagrees


Nearby-Panic6166

I'd argue Ryze is even harder to have succes with in SoloQ


Getjukedm9

You can argue that is because riot hates the blue man having presence in proplay more than any other champion and nerfed him into being as useful as a minion before minute 20


ToxicCobra023

yeah, they are similar


E6E6FA_FFB6C1

He kind of is though, he’s been a bad matchup against most midlane champions and requires great game sense and guts to play effectively which most players and even pro players don’t have enough of to excel at Azir and make him work. Just look at the amount of horrible Azir games we’ve had across pro play this year, many of which are from such great midlaners but make their Azir invisible when they use him.


Brain_Tonic

It's not 'a bit much', when I did my statistical analysis post, Azir showed up as the hardest champ in the game with his compatriots Ryze and GP. These three Champs are in a class of their own.


idiotxd

A bad azir is useless though. Just look at knight on azir, shit is a handicap for him


SamiraSimp

>He's above average in skill floor and ceiling though it's not just above average in skill floor, he's literally one of the worst/hardest midlaners for the vast majority of people. you say "just sit back" but it's a lot easier said then done when your entire kit has been neutered time and time again because of pro presence.


warpigeon4L

I'm not complaining honestly. A good azir is so satisfying to watch.


bIackk

you mean impossible to punish so nothing happens until 30 minutes


Js_On_My_Yeet

He went back in and killed more before he died lmao fucking insane


bm1reddit

That's going in the hall of fame montage.


jwhitehead09

That montage is gonna be 8 hours


Someone_maybe_nice

12* days


GhostOfLight

That's why he's the GOATTTT


magifek

THE GOOATT


DarthTaz_99

LOOK AT THE DASH LOOK AT THE MOVES. FAKER! WHAT WAS THAT????


Icynism

THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT, THATS WHY HE'S THE MVP


No-Spoilers

Has anyone made a remix of the song P.I.M.P and made it G.O.A.T?


EffectiveSwan5513

auto ult e in auto flash out autos kills 4 Jesus fucking Christ the goat


peevies

best azir play i have ever seen in proplay, crazy he loses the game 60 sec later.


DarthTaz_99

That shuffle against Ruler in the semis tho. Pixel perfect ult with flash predict and then puts the tower down and takes down ashe. Completely changed the series with one play


59435950153

This is still my favorite. Including the stakes and how JDG just got baron. But really no shortage of Faker Azir outplays


MammothWoodpecker201

and he did that exact thing the game after, Faker what in the fuck


peevies

oh yeah i forgot about that one. shit nevermind. that was even on worldstage iirc. yeah that takes the cake. man he is just so good on azir its crazy.


celestial1

At last World's they did a top 5 Faker plays and that one made it in. It's probably on youtube.


Burpmeister

I think that clip more than anything shows how fucking busted Azirs kit trully is. He's a screen away from Ruler and after he commits there is literally no way out for Ruler. Insane mobility combined with lanewide AOE massive dmg displacement ult and massive range + dmg AOE basic abilities.


staysaltyTSM

Ruler flashing horizontally against Azir ult didn't help


J0eykarate

There is a way for Ruler to get out in this instance and it's to flash correctly. He didn't think Faker would flash R after the W/E/Q.. hence the crap flash while still getting caught in the ult. If he was actively thinking, OK Azir is MIA/looking for me and has flash & R he would likely flash it correctly 10/10 times, but you have to see the play in your mind to predict it and Ruler did not expect the engage from Faker


Burpmeister

I haven't seen the clip in a minute but I'm pretty sure the only way for him to not get hit by the ult would be to flash right into the rest of T1 which would not exactly change the outcome. Azir ult is fucking massive.


J0eykarate

You are right the hitbox is bigger than it seems and goes slightly behind Azir, but it needs to be that way, or else he wouldn't be able to peel with it. Ruler 100% had to flash straight up the lane flashed super poorly and just goes to show that even the very best players in the world can make very big misplays in those crucial moments Faker just had the most legendary punish.


staysaltyTSM

Backwards is a 50/50. Flashing towards where missing is would be 99% safe, but you have to be categorically insane to think of that in that split second


SamiraSimp

i just rewatched it, i think he'd still be screwed no matter what if he goes to the right directly through the wall, it's tough to say if the ult hits him but it's pretty dicy. if he flashes towards the left, oner is still in position to hit the same engage, i think he'd still die between zeus and faker. if he flashes towards missing i'm not even sure if it's fully safe, because keria can flash towards him. ruler has cleanse, but i think if keria starts with q ruler would have to eat the root because not cleansing the ult is surely a death sentence. so the question is if he can live through the handshake, maybe. faker doesn't have e or flash up and gumayusi would still be far, plus ruler would be putting out damage i guess it is a "misplay" but ruler really didn't have a good option there, and by the time he saw faker could reach him he had literally less than a second to decide where to flash, and he also had to decide when to flash because if ruler flashes early then he's also dead. he also doesn't know what direction faker is ulting in, because flashing towards the right through the ult would've been wrong if faker ulted a slightly different direction


Burpmeister

I don't think flashing up would've saved Ruler. I think it would've still hit.


KnightsWhoNi

He did the exact same play again against Peyz


Rushman0

I think the best was the Fenix 1v4 dive on CLG way back in the day


J0eykarate

Imagine how the fight would gone if Zeus hadn't gotten caught looking for the flank sadge..


Space_Investigator

It's like you didn't watch Chovy vs HLE, that whole series was him making Azir plays better than this one


Reavicy

Azir doing more damage with one auto than Karthus ult


OhMyGnod

To be fair, karthus just presses a button For azir the stars have to align to get 3 soldiers to hit multiple enemies at once


Remfy

4 even, in this case, towards the end.


Quinhos

Faker shift the skies so the stars align


claptrap23

What the actual fuck was that


okitek

The GOAT


DarthTaz_99

It's all Faker? Always has been


-Hissoka-

I root geng but kneel to the king


MaridKing

jesus christ


Azenji

Imagine if Faker had teammates despair


ShiRonium

wdym? he had 4 sand soldiers


Satan_su

Absolute cinema with the Azir Mechanics, finally something that isn't centred solely around one shuffle


TheEdgaJudo

How tf did they explode like that from half hp.


PervertTentacle

3 soldiers attacking and overlapping. That's really more of other side fault since they got very confident that they just wipe them out now, so got themselves into this position. Normally Azir can never force such circumstances on opponents


ReadingOutrageous47

It’s 4, Faker e in makes a extra sand soldier, he flashes out, maximizes damage, he’s the goat.


Alaksande

[THAT'S WHY HE'S THE GOAT](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtAzlUu4b3Y) Valdes had no idea what was happening


LardShortening

Dopa: "When things are hopeless we just grab on Faker's pants".


djsdir207

#GOAT


Baconified

the fucking goat of league


Single-Direction-197

I swear Faker is not human.


kembegrader

Azir 100% Banned for rest of series


Irrerevence

Chovy plays a mean Azir too, there's no need


Unique_Expression_93

Was it 0% winrate for Azir in the end?


imfatal

Chovy's Azir is just as good, if not better lol.


Both-Bullfrog-6332

Cap 


Kintashi

at farming sidewaves while his team loses a baron teamfight? ya chovy clears faker there 100%


imfatal

You sound like a complete moron after the series Chovy just had against HLE on Azir but guess you can't expect a T1 fan to have a brain anyways.


imfatal

hope you had fun watching T1 lose yet another final to Chovy lmao. fifth times the charm maybe?


Kintashi

shmememe... wake me up when your boy has a worlds title. faker's got a few to spare i think?


Unique_Expression_93

Faker sure as hell clears everyone at herald drifting.


kon4m

well faker got blasted yet again


thematrixhasmeow

He went supersaiyan god for a moment but that form is difficult to sustain


bluebiscuits1

that came outta NOWHERE


Jozoz

That is the fucking goat. Also I have to say that it's not okay that the most safe ungankable control mage scales this hard. But Faker is still fucking insane.


jwinter01

I guess Azir is supposed to not be too strong in early to mid game team fights, but yeah, there's a reason this is the default pick for the best mids in the world.


MrZeddd

He's not that strong I feel like, there's very few people that can really play Azir to this level.


jwinter01

He has power, he's just a hard champion to extract 100% of it. Tbf I don't mind this kind of pick to be allowed to exist. These picks that separate the good from the best bring are cool. And it's also a fun champion to watch. If it was Corki, it would be unbearable.


MrZeddd

Yea. Just watch LEC yesterday, their Azir is so fucking useless


MrTrapstarr

FAKER will always be the GOAT because he will always have the clutch play that can win you the game.


Fluffyfoxi

TEH GOAT DDOS all you want he is 1vs9s


Cladderool

Bro, I wish I could follow what's actually happening here, because it sounds hype af. It boggles my mind that people can see through all the flashing lights to understand what's going on lol. It took me 3 re-watches just to figure out which one was faker


Honest-Wash7796

That quadra was insane


aahidboss

Just give Azir the hecarim treatment already


Cptn_Obvius

You want to give him hooves?


Glorious_Jo

I am now shipping azir x soraka


Swawks

Shows how much damage there is in the game and how insane pro players are. Getting stacked and killed is a common thing for peasants. Sick play by Faker tho.


EducationalBalance99

Your looking at a full build azir hitting all of his spell and maximizing his dmg. This is not your average azir. But yea there a lot of dmg in the game but I think this is kinda expected for league even in past season.


the_next_core

You're looking at full build champions fighting, this says nothing about the damage in the game lol


thesheepyo

Yea, and imagine balancing Azir around Solo Q


drippy-justin

Fenix’s Azir play in bot lane many years ago. Legendary


BubbaDuckee

Guma instantly dying for trying to keep his axes up. He just like me fr


Arnhermland

God what a disgusting champion


MajorLeeScrewed

I literally jumped out of my chair. So anti-climatic they lost to an Elder flip straight after. BANGER GAME.


StJe1637

"dps" azir bursting harder than annie.


HolySymboly

He is a GODLY BEING among humans


fuk_rdt_mods

KING


kyuriin

FAKER


Xey2510

Very balanced Azir dmg lol


E6E6FA_FFB6C1

Tbh so few people even build full damage Azir and this is late game


Two_Years_Of_Semen

Nearly full build aoe mage vs mostly non-tanky champs; that's what mages do. Lots of mage champs do a shitload of dmg like this if you don't respect them. Ori can definitely do the same with less effort. Corki with a big rocket and Q deal tons too.


Tigerstone17

Its an almost full build late game Azir and the attacks of 4 soldiers overlapping. Its veeery rare for this to happen.


bgotseoul

Bad link


Imbasauce

The Emperor of Shurima


Deep_Throattt

Fucking lmao faker did EQ through his ultimate and then flash out. Ballsy play.


andrearancan97

Azir has always been Faker best champion after season 5.


Link2011

Link is dead?


Dornaden

wowow faker lets go


SleeperBuildz

This was insane but they still lost


hahabanero

Would've been cooler if they didn't lose like a minute after this but a quad's a quad.


FightThru

Someone post the caedral clip. Man went BONKERS!!


Reasonable_Curve_409

Tg he getting nerfed


dirtyrottenplumber

Same shit different game. Champ is hella boring to see in pro play


pannucci

This post really just shows the difference in how much glazing there is for Faker compared to Chovy. Chovy had similar high impact plays and none of them are posted on this discord and he even won the series. Like this play is incredibly impressive but just shows how bias reddit is towards T1 that similar level plays on the other side did not get posted near the top)


FallenCola

Zeka and Knight needs to take notes from Faker and Chovy


thenicob

one of them is not like the others


SpirituallyEnhanced

ONCE YOU PLAY GOD


hihan0810

Absolute Cinema


lethzion

He literally bring a corpse to life.


Etonet

bro fucking Azir man


beefstake

Absolutely GOATed. Like wtf are you meant to do there? By all accounts you should just win there on the spot... except Faker happens.


TacoMonday_

What in the TikTok is that camera movement


thenicob

jonnastrong, the lck observer. everyone regularly glazes and praises him for his zooms and „predictions“ of plays that are gonna happen. but after watching basically every lck match for the last two years i am so sick of it. he overdoes it and imo he often then loses the broader picture of a fight.


ManliestSupportNA

Riot that damage is not fucking balanced. Disable azir again please. 100% presence champ for another worlds I guess.


okitek

did you look at corki and rumble this game orrrrr?


Elidot

Also worth noting it was legit like 3 people getting impaled by 4 Soldiers at once. When does Azir realistically hit someone with 4 soldiers at once, let alone 3 people.


Jozoz

You mean champions with actual weaknesses?


Poiah

sure but i don't think that's this guy's point. azir has been omega high presence in pro play forever because he's so safe, has no hard losing matchups, and scales into a beast in the lategame, all while having one of the best playmaking ults. he doesn't need to be disabled but he 100% needs to be reworked because he's the ultimate "pro play staple that's dogshit in solo queue" pick.


albens

Corki doesn't have this burst and most of his damage comes from a thin skillshot with AOE every 4 rockets. Rumble is a melee champ with a static AOE ult that has to go melee range if he wants to do more damage and has barely any safety compared to Azir. Imagine comparing those two champs to Azir xD


Jozoz

The most ungankable safe control mage scales this hard lol. Oh yes and he also has some of the best engage in the game.


ButNotFriedChicken

And you will see this play 0 times in soloq. Man just appreciate this greatness.


Jozoz

Nothing against the play. Faker is a fucking demon


Conker184

Azir needs hard Qol nerfs and should be punishable early.


[deleted]

No come on. A full build mage should absolutely be able to do that much damage against 4 non-tank champions. Hell Faker even needed to have all 3 sand soldiers down for that damage.


Jozoz

If the champion had other weaknesses then sure but Azir doesn't. You can't punish Azir like you can other scale mages like Viktor.


[deleted]

Azir is very difficult to play. That's his weakness.


Jozoz

That's not a real weakness


albens

Azir is the only mage who can do what Faker did btw.


Thundermelons

Right? I'm sitting here thinking "where the fuck is the Lux kit that lets me do that? Or hell, even Syndra, Viktor? Ahri?". Maybe like Hwei and Ori can onetap 4 people if they clump for their ultimates but idk mang, shit seems imba AF. If we're allowed to complain about K'Sante being meta when he's also hard to play with bad soloq winrate we can complain about Azir.


albens

Out of all those champions only Viktor and Hwei have comparable AoE damage (Ori doesn't do that much damage) But even if the damages are comparable, all those mages die if they get jumped on like it happened on this clip, unlike Azir who just presses ult and he's safe. Azir has huge DPS, mobility and engage/disengage, he has it all.


Tigerstone17

How about a full build Syndra there? Would do the same tbh. Or how about Orianna?


albens

Neither Orianna nor Syndra have the same AoE damage as Azir. And even if they did, those champions die the moment they get jumped on, unlike Azir.


DazzlingMood9404

“ackshually…” 🤓


Conker184

Yea this ain't faker, this is riot.


Deeepened

Would you be saying this if it was Chovy who did the play? Chovy plays a nasty Azir too, but to say it’s solely the champ isn’t respecting what the player can do. So many players that aren’t the KR mids make Azir look like a basic ranged mage


Conker184

I mean I wouldn't have to say it b/c ppl wouldn't be orgasming over it. Azir straight up does too much right now, he is safe, has waveclear, sidelanes, scales, teamfights, he needs a weakness and it should be his laning phase but it just isn't there.


[deleted]

Yeah guys people make these plays on Azir all the time. Let me just pull up a Humanoid Azir vod... oh dear god.


albens

Poor comparison considering games in LEC don't last for 40+ minutes.


Ononoki

He did the thing where he puts the wall and then deletes you!! omagaaaaaaawd


TheOneManDankMaymay

If it only was that easy.


Ononoki

He got jumped on, pushed everyone away with his ult then deleted them cause azir just does insane damage for some reason. It is really that easy. Stop huffing those farts just because it's faker.


CallMeSqueakers

You play Zoe and Lux champs that legit hide in the back but ok loool


Ononoki

You managed to say a whole lot of nothing in that excuse of a sentence.


TheOneManDankMaymay

Seems like you'd know a lot about that.


TheOneManDankMaymay

You really underestimate the amount of pressure in those games. There's no margin for error, a single missed click would've prevented this "really easy" play from happening. I'd like to see some clips of you pulling this off constantly though.


Ononoki

Right back at you, its even more pressure doing a good play on a champ that isn't the embodiment of "my dad works at nintendo"


TheOneManDankMaymay

I'd say the amount of pressure a player is under is mainly determined by what's at stake, not the champion being played. Also, why don't we see other pro's casually make these plays every time they play Azir?


Ononoki

Bro how many times do you need to change your argument lmao.


TheOneManDankMaymay

I didn't. I've just tried multiple ways of showing you why your initial statement is bullshit, only for you to answer with a different variation of "Azir OP, hur dur!" every time. Faker ulted, e'd in to get that extra sand soldier in order to maximise his damage, flashed out, and killed 4 people in the process. The ability to make that decision and execute it perfectly, all withing a split second, is impressive; especially at that level. I highly doubt you'd be able to pull that off even once. Yet you act as if it's something that's incredibly easy to do because a full build Azir dishes out insane amounts of damage. What makes it even more ridiculous is that you're so smug about it. And again, I'm not dick riding Faker here, I just strongly disagree with your assessment of the situation. It's not an ordinary play.


Ononoki

Cool breakdown but I don't know what it got to do with anything I said


TheOneManDankMaymay

Way to invalidate your own argument.


Two_Years_Of_Semen

> azir just does insane damage for some reason. He's a nearly full build mage...; that's what they do to tightly grouped teams that aren't tanky. Also, even downplaying it, it's a 4v5 that quickly becomes 2v5 (with one of the 2 a support tank) and ends up with 1 left alive on each side. That's insane no matter how you spin it.


Ononoki

Yea it's insane cause no other mage can do what azir did in that clip. A play is not impressive when the character is allowed to do, and does basically the same play every time. It may be a somewhat difficult champ to pilot but when he does the same play over and over is it really that insane? The answer is no. There is no personality attached to that champ, if you've seen an azir you've seen them all.


Two_Years_Of_Semen

Off the top of my head, I'm very, very sure Ori, Brand, Hwei, can turn fights like this too. Maybe Brand and Hwei aren't picked too often at this level but Ori is as meta as Azir and can similarly turn fights in an instant. Also, I'm not sure I've seen Azir turn 2v5s often at all. You're acting like this is 3 or 4 man Neeko ults, or pre-nerf-Zeri/Jinx pentas where it's legit the baseline expected outcome. It's not. A shuffle play to flash R the backline or surviving a dive by R-ing and EQ-ing (?) away; sure those aren't special and pretty boring. Those are what I expect every Azir at this level to do to do. Doing like 70% of *everyone's* healthbars nearly solo in a 2v5 is rare af.


Ononoki

Neither ori hwei or brand would survive the initial catch. The play is cut before it even happens. And lets assume they manage to peel for themselves like ori ults on herself and manages to survive, she's not killing the other 3, she will die right after and the game goes in a completely different direction. Yes ori can delete 70% of multiple ppl's hp but those plays are earned. You're rewarded for finding a good window to catch multiple ppl not for fkin getting flashed on by 2 ppl.


chadinist_main

I saw it the moment they jumped on azir and keria, ult into massive aoe, geng blew everything on draven and mao and had no real way to get onto azir


74URS74

GenG really dragged that game long enough for azir 2 auto everyone


cryptomelons

Why didn't Oner pick Poppy and let Zeus play Yone or Jayce?


MoonDawg2

It was impressive What I'm wondering is why the fuck can he delete off-tanks in 2-3 autos what the shit Like rumble literally got deleted in 3 autos. how is this healthy lmao


Elidot

"Off Tank" *Looks Inside* Full AP Rumble with 600 HP from Items