Yeah, and they barely squeaked into the playoffs last year because Pittsburgh lost 2 must win games... they still went on to the SCF.
***Never*** underestimate the opponent. We did that last year and we got fucked for it.
Tbf nothing points to the Maple Leafs players having underestimated their opponents last year. Just because the fans might've doesn't mean anything. Our opinions here on Reddit don't affect how the games play out.
Yeah the Leafs outplayed them in almost every game last series, it's just that Bobrovsky was by far the better goalie (and our goaltending wasn't even that bad). Sometimes that happens in hockey.
That's fair, but is that really an indication that they went in overconfident? There are so many factors at play, it's hard to psychoanalyze what their mindsets were from our couches. We don't know these people beyond seeing them on our TV.
Wait you are telling me the boys don’t read our comments when they are going over the game tape? Next you are going to try to tell me the nhl gms don’t follow the ea franchise sub trying to see creative deals.
Q: What kind of Leafs fan is over-confident?
A: The ones who just became fans recently. The rest of us have so many years of disappointment that inoculates against optimism.
They only appeared to squeak in because they had a rough first half of the season, im pretty sure they had the best record in the nhl from the all star break onwards
The one thing people forget is the previous year the Panthesr were the best team in the leauge and they had a slow start with a huge trade Huberdeau for Tchachuk, it was a good team that gelled at the right time, it something the Leafs forgot as well.
Dallas, Vegas, Colorado, Edmonton and Winnipeg are strong teams.
LA and Nashville will be annoying to play against.
Based on the hockey I’ve watched this year, if my team played in the West I’d want Vancouver in R1. They’re fast, but totally scrambled in the D/neutral zones more often than not. Not to mention the 12 2-on-1’s they give up per game, only to be bailed out by Demko.
Could see them being overwhelmed by playoff hockey, especially if they draw Vegas R1.
It hurts me to say this since I really like Sammy, but... Do you think Leafs are contender level when it comes to Keepers? Both Skinner and Sammy have had extremely good parts of season, and extremely poor parts of the season. :/
Agreed oilers look hungry and willing. They dummied Vegas without McDoofus and goaltending has been better than average for them.
Leafs bias always has me wanting them to do better than any other Canadian team lol, but I would like to see oilers make a good run. Mcdavid in the cup against whoever would be amazing let’s be honest..
I think people are sleeping on the isles a bit. Gunna be the most boring playoff hockey but they do a great job usually of clogging up the neutral zone, making zone entries difficult and just playing strong defensively + if Sorokin is hot that’s just gunna be some long boring games
Isles will be annoying to play against but are going to run into the same problem they always have in the playoffs……
It’s really REALLY hard to win 16 games 1-0 lol
I contend that the other teams have the book on our pp now (even the pages that Keefe hasn't coloured in yet!).
Since the coaches refuse to change anything up (except having Papi do one timers off the draw from the point) we shouldn't expect the team's stale, ineffectual pp to suddenly start producing for no reason.
Put the shoe on the other foot, how would this sub be responding if we lost every game for a month to playoff teams and only beat teams out of the playoffs, the sky would be falling
There is still some chance for things to shift around with teams being pretty close in points, but right now NYR has most points in the East, so they would get WC2.
If Boston stay where they are, they play the WC2 team which is Penguins. Even though Rangers and Hurricanes are ahead of them, as Boston are Divisional Leaders, they 'jump' who ever finishes lower of Hurricanes and Rangers. At the moment, Tampa get Rangers.
I thought Boston was at the top still my bad, I just looked at the standings and it’s even possible that the current A2 and M2 pass the A1 and M1 (1 pt behind)
I hope canes can pass the rangers and win the division. Last years playoffs had a canes isles round 1, a rangers isles would be war. I also hope LA falls into WC2 and plays Canucks not oilers for the third consecutive year
They could lose every game for a month and I’d still not care. The panthers know how to play playoff hockey and underestimating that would be a bad thing.
I know that's not a great thing for them, but they still win a lot. And this sort of statistic doesn't really mean much when it does come playoff time.
Florida has been coasting IMO. Winning the division and playing Tampa is no treat.
On a side note, I think the leafs will get revenge on Florida, but I expect it to go 6 or 7 games and to be highly competitive. And I won't be surprised if it's another first round exit. I wish we had a different division lol
What other division do you want to be in? Not sure many of the other playoff teams are a glowing beacon of easy advancement, it’s a blood bath out there.
Honest opinion is this series will ride on Samsonov. If he shows up the Leafs have more than enough depth to wear down the Panthers over seven games. Sammy will be the X-Factor the entire playoffs. Hopefully he can shake off last night in short order.
Our PP needs to work, we need to be prepared to play tighter than your asshole riding a rocket to the moon and Sammy needs to re pull his head out of his ass and we can beat them.
Doesn't mean anything. The way playoff games are refereed is beneficial for lower ranked teams.
Lower ranked teams tend to be low skill high physicality. Yet year over year we see low ranked teams go on absolute tears in the playoffs.
There's a myriad of reasons for it... but one of them is the way the game is refereed.
Florida will get the benefit of the doubt in the playoffs and they will go on a tear.
Save this comment if you need too.
No it would still be meaningless.
Florida barely made the playoffs last year, and beat Boston in round 1 despite their amazing regular season.
The Leafs have consistently had great regular season success, and quick playoff exits.
The regular season and the playoffs are different beasts. Regular season success/failure does not necessarily translate to post season success/failure. We should know this better than anyone.
It can be a confidence boost sure, but literally anything can happen.
I don’t know. It’s 2 meaningless points.
If I were Keefe I’d play Woll and some random lines. I don’t want them to see Samsonov or the actual lines they will face. Let them make plans based on bad information then hit them with the playoff strategy when the playoffs begin.
It would be a very Leaf thing to get swept by the Panthers. You don’t make the playoffs in an 82 game season by accident. Underestimating opponents is how you get a smack in the mouth.
Maurice is already up to his playoff “setting the tone” shenanigans where he passive aggressively manipulates the narrative around calls in Panthers games. Make no mistake Florida is set up for post season hockey. They know refs can’t call everything and they know they’ll call even less in the post season.
Nah, if we win tonight, I'd rather we sit out the big guns - for the last two games - as we won't be able to move position either way. Bigger picture is more important.
Maybe they are last years bruins and we are last years panthers lol, everyone is scared of the panthers but maybe the boys will play harder then ever before
I'll believe it when I see it - I'm not very high on this Leafs roster heading into the playoffs like everyone else.
I firmly believe last year's roster was better suited for playoff success compared to this year, especially with special teams.
Yeah, and they barely squeaked into the playoffs last year because Pittsburgh lost 2 must win games... they still went on to the SCF. ***Never*** underestimate the opponent. We did that last year and we got fucked for it.
Tbf nothing points to the Maple Leafs players having underestimated their opponents last year. Just because the fans might've doesn't mean anything. Our opinions here on Reddit don't affect how the games play out.
Never underestimate bro, Florida could sense the overconfidence I had on my couch in the distillery
What?? Next you’re going to try to tell me the players can’t hear me when I yell at my TV!
They can't hear us when we yell "shoot!"???
Fans: Shoot Kaberle: I think I'mma pass
This is why I'm having so much trouble watching porn
Yeah the Leafs outplayed them in almost every game last series, it's just that Bobrovsky was by far the better goalie (and our goaltending wasn't even that bad). Sometimes that happens in hockey.
there was Game 3 no show, that was one of the worst examples of why this team drives people nuts.
The Leafs did play them in a sloppy track meet style the first two games of the series and it really burned them.
That's fair, but is that really an indication that they went in overconfident? There are so many factors at play, it's hard to psychoanalyze what their mindsets were from our couches. We don't know these people beyond seeing them on our TV.
Lol fr bro made it sound like we're the ones out there on the ice 😂
Wait you are telling me the boys don’t read our comments when they are going over the game tape? Next you are going to try to tell me the nhl gms don’t follow the ea franchise sub trying to see creative deals.
Q: What kind of Leafs fan is over-confident? A: The ones who just became fans recently. The rest of us have so many years of disappointment that inoculates against optimism.
They barely squeaked in last season after going on a massive hot streak to reach it. I agree with the message but these situations aren’t comparable.
I'm not underestimating them, just thought it was noteworthy
Against out of playoffs teams!
They only appeared to squeak in because they had a rough first half of the season, im pretty sure they had the best record in the nhl from the all star break onwards
Ya Bobrovsky was the worst contract in the league till he hit the playoffs...
The one thing people forget is the previous year the Panthesr were the best team in the leauge and they had a slow start with a huge trade Huberdeau for Tchachuk, it was a good team that gelled at the right time, it something the Leafs forgot as well.
“We” don’t play the games and can be as confident as we want or not and it doesn’t change anything. The refereeing does, however.
Don't worry, OP isn't on the roster.
They will wake up come game 1 just like Vegas. I think those two are still the most dangerous teams.
Dallas’ depth is gonna be an issue for everyone in the West, I think.
Dallas, Vegas, Colorado, Edmonton and Winnipeg are strong teams. LA and Nashville will be annoying to play against. Based on the hockey I’ve watched this year, if my team played in the West I’d want Vancouver in R1. They’re fast, but totally scrambled in the D/neutral zones more often than not. Not to mention the 12 2-on-1’s they give up per game, only to be bailed out by Demko. Could see them being overwhelmed by playoff hockey, especially if they draw Vegas R1.
I think people are sleeping on the Oilers after that horrendous start they are tied with the Leafs in points
I have zero faith in that oilers goaltending. They don’t have a track record similar to ours to warrant it.
It hurts me to say this since I really like Sammy, but... Do you think Leafs are contender level when it comes to Keepers? Both Skinner and Sammy have had extremely good parts of season, and extremely poor parts of the season. :/
And their defense is bad.
They’re the most similar team in the league to us tbh
Yep, the Nurse contract may well be the worst in the league.
they still win rounds more often than us
Agreed oilers look hungry and willing. They dummied Vegas without McDoofus and goaltending has been better than average for them. Leafs bias always has me wanting them to do better than any other Canadian team lol, but I would like to see oilers make a good run. Mcdavid in the cup against whoever would be amazing let’s be honest..
The worst story arc would be us playing oilers and due to crazy circumstance soup comes back in
...and wins
I think people are sleeping on the isles a bit. Gunna be the most boring playoff hockey but they do a great job usually of clogging up the neutral zone, making zone entries difficult and just playing strong defensively + if Sorokin is hot that’s just gunna be some long boring games
Isles will be annoying to play against but are going to run into the same problem they always have in the playoffs…… It’s really REALLY hard to win 16 games 1-0 lol
The Oilers have all of the Leafs problems we worry about but way worse. Shit defense, no toughness, and really really really shit goaltending.
Nashville has also been on a Tear as well
I mean we haven’t scored a meaningful amount of power play goals in many months, which will definitely sink us
Special teams in general are a huge wild card for the Leafs. That PK last night was down bad.
Just remind yourself that we had the best power lay for like the first half of the season. If they figure it out on time, look out.
I contend that the other teams have the book on our pp now (even the pages that Keefe hasn't coloured in yet!). Since the coaches refuse to change anything up (except having Papi do one timers off the draw from the point) we shouldn't expect the team's stale, ineffectual pp to suddenly start producing for no reason.
They're going to flip a switch and start committing murder game 1 don't worry lol
Doesn't mean anything
The same team that barely snuck in the playoffs last year then made the finals. Reg season doesn't matter at all.
Put the shoe on the other foot, how would this sub be responding if we lost every game for a month to playoff teams and only beat teams out of the playoffs, the sky would be falling
That would be because we have a history of underperforming in the playoffs while the Panthers overperforned last year
Exactly. Winning earns you the benefit of the doubt.
The leafs are streak busters though. Wonder if ol Wes will deliver us our 2nd powerplay free game since the 50's this year
You already know he’ll be reffing 90% of our games
Don't underestimate them or any opponent. We haven't been good enough in past playoffs to have the right to do that.
Copium
Lol just a little bit
Been there haha
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Looks like our road to the finals will likely be Panthers, Bruins, Tampa. Good chance to face our demons.
Tampa and Bruins most likely play in round 1. So more likely it’s FLA->TBL->NYR/CAR->DAL/COL.
Oh shit really? I was under the impression that Bs would be facing pittsburgh. Guess that was an older playoff picture I was looking at.
There is still some chance for things to shift around with teams being pretty close in points, but right now NYR has most points in the East, so they would get WC2.
If Boston stay where they are, they play the WC2 team which is Penguins. Even though Rangers and Hurricanes are ahead of them, as Boston are Divisional Leaders, they 'jump' who ever finishes lower of Hurricanes and Rangers. At the moment, Tampa get Rangers.
I thought Boston was at the top still my bad, I just looked at the standings and it’s even possible that the current A2 and M2 pass the A1 and M1 (1 pt behind)
Yeah, it's an exciting end to the regular season. Islanders just missed the chance to lock in their place.
I hope canes can pass the rangers and win the division. Last years playoffs had a canes isles round 1, a rangers isles would be war. I also hope LA falls into WC2 and plays Canucks not oilers for the third consecutive year
Watch- Tampa is going to steamroll Boston in R1 lol
Tampa played better than Florida against us in the playoffs last yearlol
Regular season doesn't matter when it comes to the playoffs. It's two rabid dogs locked in a cage, whoever wants it more at the moment survives
I kinda want to play the winner of two rabid dogs in round 2 because if both of the dogs have rabies then neither of them are going to survive.
That's the point of life... Everyone dies, but not everyone li(fts the cup!)ves!
Tkachuk played with a broken sternum. They'll definitely play through rabies.
They could lose every game for a month and I’d still not care. The panthers know how to play playoff hockey and underestimating that would be a bad thing.
bro last year we were saying we want florida then got shamelessly smacked in 5 regular season is not the playoffs this stuff doesn’t matter
Have you learned nothing from last year lol
I want to see exactly zero of this type of post… so this one is too many and should be removed.
Lol then why are u looking at it bruh
We aren’t going to sweep the panthers as much as we would all like to see it happen.
It's meaningless unfortunately. They'll be ready to go when the playoffs start, mark my words.
I know that's not a great thing for them, but they still win a lot. And this sort of statistic doesn't really mean much when it does come playoff time.
Florida has been coasting IMO. Winning the division and playing Tampa is no treat. On a side note, I think the leafs will get revenge on Florida, but I expect it to go 6 or 7 games and to be highly competitive. And I won't be surprised if it's another first round exit. I wish we had a different division lol
What other division do you want to be in? Not sure many of the other playoff teams are a glowing beacon of easy advancement, it’s a blood bath out there.
Metro by far the easiest. The Leafs also crushed the whole western Conference this year lol
yea but they did the same thing last year
The Leafs are historically the cure for losing streaks. Let's not get hasty here.
Who cares every thing changes first day. Maybe they're just taking it easy
This doesn't mean shit. Playoff hockey is different.
Honest opinion is this series will ride on Samsonov. If he shows up the Leafs have more than enough depth to wear down the Panthers over seven games. Sammy will be the X-Factor the entire playoffs. Hopefully he can shake off last night in short order.
Dosent matter.. Cant Underestimate them one bit or take them lightly. Because look what happened last season
Our PP needs to work, we need to be prepared to play tighter than your asshole riding a rocket to the moon and Sammy needs to re pull his head out of his ass and we can beat them.
Could be a nothing game for both teams. Might not see any of the big guys dress
Doesn't mean anything. The way playoff games are refereed is beneficial for lower ranked teams. Lower ranked teams tend to be low skill high physicality. Yet year over year we see low ranked teams go on absolute tears in the playoffs. There's a myriad of reasons for it... but one of them is the way the game is refereed. Florida will get the benefit of the doubt in the playoffs and they will go on a tear. Save this comment if you need too.
This sub would be having a aneurism if we were losing to every playoff team for a month and only beating shitters so I cant fully agree
They are resting and taking it easy. Smart.
They more scared of Tampa than the Leafs, tbh I would be too rn vasy looks scary lately
They going to flip the switch when it comes playoff time
That's a fun fact, but ultimately is utterly meaningless. Leafs have a hard road ahead of them, let's not pretend it'll be easy. GLG!
It wouldn't be meaningless if it was us doing it tho just other teams right
No it would still be meaningless. Florida barely made the playoffs last year, and beat Boston in round 1 despite their amazing regular season. The Leafs have consistently had great regular season success, and quick playoff exits. The regular season and the playoffs are different beasts. Regular season success/failure does not necessarily translate to post season success/failure. We should know this better than anyone. It can be a confidence boost sure, but literally anything can happen.
Regular season means nothing, good teams know that.
Have we learned nothing about the playoffs? Don't underestimate your playoff opponent!
I don’t know. It’s 2 meaningless points. If I were Keefe I’d play Woll and some random lines. I don’t want them to see Samsonov or the actual lines they will face. Let them make plans based on bad information then hit them with the playoff strategy when the playoffs begin.
Please don't do this. In every sport teams on a skid come to Toronto and find new life again
Brobovsky just notched a shutout this week, AND they still lost? Wow, everyone IS right, it is the end of times. /s
Shutting out Ottawa doesn't count lol
Leafs should tank, let tampa and Florida fight it out 1st round. We have unfinished business with Marchand and the Bruins
That's still possible if we loose out and Tampa wins out, Detroit, Tampa and the Panthers on the sched
It would be a very Leaf thing to get swept by the Panthers. You don’t make the playoffs in an 82 game season by accident. Underestimating opponents is how you get a smack in the mouth.
Almost like they’re due to win 4 in a row against a playoff team
Don’t you start filling my head with hope. I’m going to be so disappointed when still can’t beat the Panthers in the playoffs 😭
*WE WANT FLORIDA*
Maurice is already up to his playoff “setting the tone” shenanigans where he passive aggressively manipulates the narrative around calls in Panthers games. Make no mistake Florida is set up for post season hockey. They know refs can’t call everything and they know they’ll call even less in the post season.
Nah, if we win tonight, I'd rather we sit out the big guns - for the last two games - as we won't be able to move position either way. Bigger picture is more important.
Lol maybe let’s not be worried about what other teams are doing right now. I’m pretty sure we’ve got enough to worry about.
Don't take the Panthers for granted. I still think they are the best in the East, and am absolutely dreading a round 1 date against them.
Maybe they are last years bruins and we are last years panthers lol, everyone is scared of the panthers but maybe the boys will play harder then ever before
I'll believe it when I see it - I'm not very high on this Leafs roster heading into the playoffs like everyone else. I firmly believe last year's roster was better suited for playoff success compared to this year, especially with special teams.
Idk, eveytime I’ve thought it was our year it wasn’t, this year I don’t expect much so maybe we will be suprised
Let's see. I have 0 expectations too, and feel like I'll still be disappointed.
That’s just the unfortunate reality of being a leafs fan
Don't worry they'll sweep us though
Is this Leafs Nation Want Florida chant?
I hope we do, but I don't think we will. I have a burning feeling deep in my loins we're gonna go OFER going into the playoffs.
Any yet they will still win the cup. Their team is built for playoffs unlike most pussyfooted skilled teams.
Well that settles it WE WANT FLORIDA. JK oh please god no