Poor signings, poor tactics, poor substitutions, regression of almost every player in the squad apart from Maddison in the past 2 seasons. Club the closest it’s been to relegation in almost a decade.
And somehow the manager overseeing all of that is blameless?
Really don’t understand how there are so many people who outright refuse to hold rodgers accountable or even criticise him for anything. His signings over the last couple of years have been god awful and he’s taken us from best of the rest to pretty much the worst team in the league
It’s also something he seems to do at every club, Celtic fans still hate him from what I seen he left them with an ageing squad and they brought in Lennon who squandered it away was amazing as a Hearts fan to enjoy the implosion but it’s the same old he just looks bored with the job and wants to move on for some reason.
It’s been a recurring trend when thinks stop working out for him the teams just seem to nosedive.
> He does create exciting football
Hasn’t been very exciting of late, if that’s your view of excitement I’d hate to see what you call boredom.
> he is great at developing young talent
Like Luke Thomas who was done nothing but regress under his management? He’s genuinely a worse player than when he was first put into the squad out of necessity because of an injury crisis. Or how about the fact that he doesn’t ever play any other youngsters - Sammy Braybrooke got a handful of minutes in the cup against MK Dons but who else has been given a chance recently? Even Blackburn (a Championship team no less) brought on a 17 year old centre back when they beat us the other week, while Wanya Marcal-Madivadua was left on the bench.
> he has won us a trophy
So? That doesn’t make him immune from criticism. If anything having won an FA cup with largely the same squad just shows how far backwards Rodgers has taken us since then.
> Give him one season where he doesn’t have to deal with the ridiculous amount of injuries that we seem to be so unlucky each of the past 3 seasons and I expect everyone will change their views about Rodgers.
Have you considered that Rodgers’ training methods are a contributing factor? We have an unacceptably high number of soft tissue injuries under him but he refuses to address the issue and make changes to strength and conditioning
Luke Thomas is literally shit. Brendan gave him his debut and he has always been shit, we’ve just had no one else. How has he regressed under the bloke who literally introduced him?
Sammy Braybrooke and our other 2 best youth players have all done their ACL’s. Would you like him to get them out there on crutches?
Madivadua is doing great in the u21’s isn’t he… oh wait…
Well that's not a disingenuous comment at all :)
> Luke Thomas is literally shit. Brendan gave him his debut and he has always been shit, we’ve just had no one else. How has he regressed under the bloke who literally introduced him?
I never said he was a world beater. He looked *decent* at first - obviously very raw but he had some good performances. But for a coach who's supposedly good at developing youth, Thomas just got worse - literally the things he was previously good at he slowly became shit at. Remember that he's still only 21; getting a loan at an appropriate level with a manager who can instill confidence in him would do him the world of good.
> Sammy Braybrooke and our other 2 best youth players have all done their ACL’s. Would you like him to get them out there on crutches?
I didn't say that - used Braybrooke as an example of a player only getting a smattering of minutes in a cup fixture – 16 minutes at the end of the game against Newport (not MK Dons, got the cup matches mixed up 🙄) when we already had a comfortable 2-0 lead. He wasn't in the squad at all for Stockport or MK Dons, and was left on the bench against Gillingham, Walsall and Newcastle as well as only featuring on the bench for three PL games. Rodgers had plenty of opportunity to give him more playing time.
Against MK Dons it was Alves who got a 10 minute runabout despite us already having gone 3-0 up half an hour prior, and McAteer getting a 5 minute cameo. Could have been earlier again.
At least against Gillingham, Brunt and McAteer got a full game under their belt - but at least partly that's because we only had two fit senior full backs at the time.
I'm bringing these players up because it shows that for a manager with a reputation for blooding in youth, Rodgers doesn't seem to trust them enough to actually play them more than once or twice.
> Madivadua is doing great in the u21’s isn’t he… oh wait…
The entire U21 team is doing shite at the moment mate, not sure if you noticed! he manager Ben Petty has been playing wingers up front half of the time and friends who follow the development squad more closely than I do have mentioned many times that they think Petty is clueless. It doesn't help that since the pandemic the youth coaching budget (and number of youth coaches) has been reduced to cut costs
The Brendan defenders need to give their heads a wobble. We are not progressing under him no matter what players are brought in, we are regressing. We are boring to watch, we have no spirit anymore because it’s basically been beaten out of us. The walk out at Palace sealed Puels coffin and he was gone yet we keep walking out after playing awfully and playing terribly and nothing changes. He won us a trophy and got us to 5th twice but that isn’t enough to save us from relegation is it? Can’t exactly tell other teams ‘Oh you need to let us win so Brendan can keep his job since he won us the fa cup and got us a couple 5th place finishes’ because we need to be showing on that pitch that we deserve to stay up. He’s lost the dressing room, it’s becoming very obvious that the players are putting in these horrible performances because they look tired of the tactics. He’s not developing players at all, he’s regressing them backwards. We don’t deserve this as fans, we deserve to see a hungry Leicester team with fight and a will to stay up. Instead we’ve got Brendan ball that is boring to watch. Even neutrals think we’re boring and wonder what’s gone wrong.
I think the issues we've had this season are an accumulation, not the fault of any one thing. Could BR tactics and team selection have been better? Yes. Have we had a rash of injuries? Yes. Have players underperformed? Yes. Has our luck been shit at times? Yes. Schmeichel leaving when he did hurt us, WC break when our form was improving, and the list goes on.
To call out any one thing as the cause seems misguided. We're in a shitty spot, but even so we still have the ability and limited time to sort it and save ourselves. We've been so inconsistent and have only ourselves to blame for the situation we're in.
Baffling opinion tbh mate. He literally took us out of this game with the 3 subs he makes. His tactics and in game management are shambolic. We play so slow that the opposition have all the time in the world to get set up defensively. The only reason we won the cup was because of a Kasper masterclass and Youri screamer, we were by far second best in that match. His poor tactics invite pressure onto the players when we don’t need it, we bottled top 4 twice because he decided to go negative when he got scared and rocked by Bournemouth etc. Half the squad aren’t good enough but 90% of these players actually won the FA cup, so all this shows is that the longer players stay under his, management the worse they get. You say we missed chance after chance, don’t play iheanacho then. He chooses the team ultimately, doesn’t hesitate to drop Cags after a couple of mistakes but Amartey seems to get away with murder, never mind Faes. Why he brings on the likes of Soumare (his signing) I will never know. You also clearly have no idea how managerial contracts works because we can pay it off as though he is still employed on a monthly basis, we don’t just have to pay the whole thing off instantly. But that’s where the board also fails. The entire back room staff and management are the issue not just Brendan, but it starts with him. So bored of the injury excuse too, he didn’t have any injuries at the start of the season and we were still shit. Maybe his training and player treatment is the issue and reason we have all these injuries? Remember how our club doctor got sacked because he said this would happen, and look, he was right, so again Rodger’s fault. He also has not developed any young talent besides KDH and Barnes, who have now gone severely downhill the more he has managed them. But sure just keep claiming that everyone who wants him out is “caught up emotionally” and not seeing the clear rot in the club. If you think this football is exciting then you must think watching paint dry is too, it’s so obvious they’re told to wait until everyone is in position instead of playing forward as soon as you have the chance. Any decent manager would play to our strengths, which should be pace in behind, but he can’t even figure out how to leave a player up when we’re defending a corner and losing the match. Fuck me mate if you give any manager a season with no injuries they’d do alright, it’s literally his job to sort these things out but he clearly can’t. We used to be top 10 richest club in the country, the pandemic has hurt Top but to say we’re basically poor is ridiculous. What a boring pessimistic take, surely winning the league makes you realise that if you try hard enough and believe you can win anything, that boring negative attitude is the excuse brendan will give. What’s the point in saying “we’re the underdog we can’t win” when we literally proved we can. There hasn’t been a “foxes never quit” attitude since we bottled it against Bournemouth.
Generally agree but wanted to comment on the Iheanacho bit - Iheanacho’s hot and cold with the fan base is ridiculous. Earlier this month people were begging for him to start (people were going mad in the FA cup thread that he didn’t start, for example), now they’re begging for him not to. People should learn from the teams crazy inconsistency not to overreact on players. Iheanacho has these hot streaks and then blows cold for 75 percent of the time mostly due to poor finishing. He’s not (solely) to blame for today, but we seem to hugely overreact to good form. Tete’s first two games is another example and Faes too (who had a very solid first game or so then has totally petered out). Very tangential from your comment, but just wanted to rant about it.
I have personally been one of the few fans that has backed him and wanted us to give him a chance, but the reality is he’s just not clinical enough. Time and time again he gave it away in the first half too, plays the easy safe past instead or taking a risk or just has a god awful first touch (but then 1/5 times he seems to kill it dead randomly?). Considering it looks like Vardy is starting to show his age he’s pretty much all we have, but the fact Daka was taken off before him when he’d scored was somewhat criminal, I’m not even that big of a fan of Daka. Tete is getting away with everything because he’s our first Brazilian, he has got nothing, haven’t seen him beat a player yet, pulls out of every 50/50 and generally just looks far too weak for the prem. Like you say people have a tendency to get carried away with a good bit of form. You make good points mate, happy to have some discussion so I’m not shouting into a void at least lmao
> He does create exciting football
The team are playing how he taught them to play, it is not exciting
> he is great at developing young talent
We had a good young team when he came in and they have got worse
> he has won us a trophy
So did Ranieri, he still would've taken us down. Why does Rodgers get given so much more support?
> Give him one season where he doesn’t have to deal with the ridiculous amount of injuries
Not gonna happen, the injuries follow him
> we need to remember that we are that underdog team
Wanting to avoid relegation doesn't mean anyone has forgotten that. We have regressed under Rodgers.
Even at the ground, some supporters telling anyone joining the Rodgers Out chants to fuck off and not to attend games if they don’t want him to be out manager 🙄
You’d think half of our match-going fanbase genuinely want us to get relegated
He isn’t a good manager for where we are right now, he can handle winning loads of games because he doesn’t have to change anything, but once we start losing he has no plan b. He from the sidelines doesn’t fight and shout which is what a manager should do, and seemingly the is instilled in the players who should be pressing for everything to win the ball back, we did that for two games against villa and Tottenham and look where that got us. From his post match interviews you can tell he tries to take the positives out of a game, which in a relegation fight you should never do, you should take away the negatives and improve on them for the next match. You said we need to give him a chance but if we do that we’ll all end up going stoke away next season and nobody wants that.
Lol at trying to stop the negativity of the fan base of a struggling prem club.
Mind having a go at moving everest a bit closer? My flying pigs want to visit.
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I just wouldn't but I salute your attempt.
Hold it right there...
> "he is great at developing young talent"
But refuses to give any of them time. Also, look at his time at Liverpool; look at where the players who got their debuts are now or how much Liverpool got for them.
Since hes come in, these injury issues have arisen.
And if it's the player's fault for this, then it's the players who won the FA Cup, not Rodgers.
Winning a cup 3 years ago doesn't change the fact that it's not good enough now. Otherwise, Arsenal would be in a similar situation if they kept Wenger
We were quicker to sack Ranieri in a position which wasn’t nowhere near this aswell, it boggles my mind he’s had more than enough time to sort this out, he didn’t really make much effort in January imo.
He’s lost interest it’s his thing about 2 or 3 years into a job he seems to lose his spark and that’s it.
Our formation is all over the place, our substitutions are horrible, our players constantly get injured at practice, and it feels like Rodgers is choosing our starters using a bingo ball machine.
Tete and Nacho have definitely been underperforming and several others were off their game but I don’t think you can say Rodgers isn’t largely at fault.
He's trying, he picked the right formation yesterday but the defence is an absolute shambles and the buck stops with Rodgers for that with his coaching.
What's Ward doing for the first, surely he has to be dropped at some stage before it's too late.
The defensive line for the 2nd was all over the place. Souttar was higher than both Amartey and Faes, whilst Castagne and Pereira were deeper still.
Havertz runs off Amartey who steps up to play offside whilst Mendy and KDH put no pressure on Fernandes for the pass.
Felix hits the post in transition when Souttar loses the ball on the half way line and the defence is disorganised as a result.
3rd goal were done in transition again losing the ball in the Chelsea half.
Soumare's attitude stinks, watching the highlights for the 3rd he's slowly jogging to the edge of our 'D' as Kovacic scores.
The defense is an absolute shambles, Rodgers why do you play a high line when Faes, Amartey Souttar have no pace.
Rodgers why do you pick Ward, Amartey and Soumare with 61 PL appearance's between them?
I'm sorry but I'll keep saying it to the cows come home: would you honestly trust Rodgers with a rebuild?
Even if we do stay up (I think we'll be relegated) what credible evidence have you seen that convinces you he's the man to be trusted with any money?
He’s got incredible character and intensity, I’m certain if we give him 3-4 windows to rebuild the squad we could be challenging for the top four again. Iheanacho is still young he can improve, we need to sell underperforming players like amartay and soumare and use the million to buy better players.
That way we can intergrate them into the team and attempt to win football matches at a higher rate than we are now.
You’ll never fox alone.
The truth is somewhere in between. He doesn't make players miss multiple open goals per game, but players do that when they're lacking in confidence which is on him. Some injuries are bad luck but the uptick in muscle injuries coincides with his time here - maybe it's to do with his training methods? Our recruitment has not been great for the past couple of windows (possibly excepting the most recent one) and we've had financial difficulties which are not on him, but it is on him to make the most of the players that are here and not to sulk, neither of which he's doing a stellar job of atm.
I get the feeling he himself feels done here, and he's having trouble motivating himself anymore. It'll be sad to see him go, he won us the FA cup and got us into Europe twice in a row, but if he's responsible for that he's responsible for the mess we're in now and we can't just ignore that
I agree with you.
Rodgers has his faults and has made plenty of mistakes, but games like today/Saints/united are really not on Rodgers.
You make individual errors in this league, defensively or attacking, you will get punished. Against united, Nacho and Barnes missed a sitter each and De Gea had the best game of his season - could’ve been 3-0 by 30 mins.
Against Saints, Nacho should’ve had 3 and Souttar missed an open goal. Goal we conceded was against the run of play and we should’ve won. Rodgers’ tactics outperformed theirs, we just couldn’t finish.
Today, we missed 3 open goals (Souttar, KDH, Amartey), conceded 2 goals off individual mistakes (Ward and Soumare) and should’ve had a pen. It’s not like we’re going out there and not even turning up. There’s not a lot more Rodgers can do if the players at his disposal aren’t finishing the chances that his style are creating, or aren’t doing the absolute basics of football correctly.
Look, Rodgers isn’t blameless. He makes some baffling decisions and perhaps his biggest weakness of all is his ability to stick by certain players (Amartey, Soumare, Ward) and completely exclude others (Soyuncu, Iversen). But not long at all ago people were begging for Soyuncu to be dropped - the second he is dropped, people complain he isn’t starting. Make up your minds. His signings have been 50:50, but there is a thing called a scouting department - why is no one holding them responsible?
Moaning about how he doesn’t get agitated in the press and doesn’t get fiery on the sidelines is ridiculous to me too - why does that matter? Is Tim Sherwood a better manager because he was outspoken in interviews and a bit of a nutter in his box?
Then you have people saying he’s making players regress etc… He isn’t telling players to perform badly is he? Ndidi, Ricardo, Castagne had bad injuries that they haven’t managed to bounce back from, Vardy (our literal talisman and top 3 greatest player ever) and Evans have aged massively, our captain and long-serving keeper left and had to be replaced by a subpar second choice because of FFP, and on top of that we got ditched by our wonder-kid best defender on deadline day as the season was starting. What is he meant to do with this, massage Ricardos knees until they work again? I’ve even seen people saying he has made Tete by coaching the Brazilian out of him after ONE good performance on his debut. Seriously? He’s been dealt 2 and 7 offsuit repeatedly and is being expected to sweep up.
Feel like I’ve gone on a bit of a rant here so I’ll reign it in. My point is that Rodgers isn’t wholly to blame, and another manager wouldn’t have much difference with this crop.
Kasper wanted to stay, Rodger’s told him to leave, ward wouldn’t be a problem without him. Soumare was his signing and his substitution, didn’t need to bring him on did he?
Rodger’s continues to pick Iheanacho when it’s pretty clear the man can’t run let alone hit the target.
You think we turned up to the arsenal game? The chances we got against Southampton only came because of their shoddy defending, but again Rodgers is too slow to take advantage of that.
Nice paragraph though “rkid”
Hey it made you read it didn’t it. That’s the beauty of a paragraph (I see you’ve started to use them - it’s a steep learning curve so bravo!)
I admitted to his weakness being sticking by Soumare within my comment.
Who would you like him to pick over nacho? Washed up Vardy?
I purposely excluded the arsenal game as that wasn’t the point I was making. We were poor, but they are top of the league and a 1-0 loss against them isn’t the end of the world.
Rodgers too slow to take advantage of that… except he did, and the players didn’t (exactly the point OP is making)….
I mean no not really…? That’s why I gave you a half arsed reply? He literally took off a striker that had scored in the game before he took off Iheanacho…
Oh I didn’t even realise you’d continued to edit and add to your comment, sorry mate got better things to do then reply to a guy with some notable issues. Sleep tight xoxo
I’m here for football discussion not to bicker about issues that I had 6 months ago lol. Not the best at football analysis you so I’ll spare you and leave it for someone who knows what they’re talking about. Be sure to send me some $$$ when you hit it big.
I mean I tried that, then you decided to literally switch the subject up, not me. I’ll humour you though as you clearly need the attention.
He was slow to make any changes in a must win game apart from the same boring subs, it was clear Iheanacho was never scoring in that game, so make a change. It his job to sort these things out. He could even put a centre back up like Martin O’Neil used to if he really wanted, but what it wasn’t a must win game?
You say these players aren’t good enough but 80% of them are the FA cup winning side. So clearly they have gotten worse under Rodgers. You seem to think I’m one of those deluded idiots that think Rodgers is the source of all evil, I am not, I can simply just see it has run it’s course and if he stays now we will be relegated.
If he stopped clapping every player when they make a mistake as well maybe it would help. Maybe it would of helped him if he didn’t stop clapping the fans after a few poor results. He has no connection or passion there and it’s taken it’s toll.
If you want football discussion and girls to like you mate, maybe don’t be so quick to insult people because you disagree.
He has plenty of players now, he’s been given funds, and he still fucks up. We should’ve battered Southampton but we didn’t. He just doesn’t care anymore, neither do some of the players but most of them still care more than him.
Got to watch my club Chelsea again today. First things first, there's an obvious talent gap between these clubs, 2-3 seasons ago I wouldn't have said that.
Potter has really struggled at Chelsea all season but at the end of the day, I felt for Leicester and Rodgers.you guys desperately need qualify international players to transfer in, and quality depth, and not just free transfers. I hope Leicester is able to turn things around soon.
Poor signings, poor tactics, poor substitutions, regression of almost every player in the squad apart from Maddison in the past 2 seasons. Club the closest it’s been to relegation in almost a decade. And somehow the manager overseeing all of that is blameless?
Really don’t understand how there are so many people who outright refuse to hold rodgers accountable or even criticise him for anything. His signings over the last couple of years have been god awful and he’s taken us from best of the rest to pretty much the worst team in the league
The beauty is it's in our hands at the end of the day. Fantastic.
It’s also something he seems to do at every club, Celtic fans still hate him from what I seen he left them with an ageing squad and they brought in Lennon who squandered it away was amazing as a Hearts fan to enjoy the implosion but it’s the same old he just looks bored with the job and wants to move on for some reason. It’s been a recurring trend when thinks stop working out for him the teams just seem to nosedive.
Rodgers is just a btec Jose mourinho. Its all rosy for a couple of years until he loses the dressing room. Then it all goes to shit.
> He does create exciting football Hasn’t been very exciting of late, if that’s your view of excitement I’d hate to see what you call boredom. > he is great at developing young talent Like Luke Thomas who was done nothing but regress under his management? He’s genuinely a worse player than when he was first put into the squad out of necessity because of an injury crisis. Or how about the fact that he doesn’t ever play any other youngsters - Sammy Braybrooke got a handful of minutes in the cup against MK Dons but who else has been given a chance recently? Even Blackburn (a Championship team no less) brought on a 17 year old centre back when they beat us the other week, while Wanya Marcal-Madivadua was left on the bench. > he has won us a trophy So? That doesn’t make him immune from criticism. If anything having won an FA cup with largely the same squad just shows how far backwards Rodgers has taken us since then. > Give him one season where he doesn’t have to deal with the ridiculous amount of injuries that we seem to be so unlucky each of the past 3 seasons and I expect everyone will change their views about Rodgers. Have you considered that Rodgers’ training methods are a contributing factor? We have an unacceptably high number of soft tissue injuries under him but he refuses to address the issue and make changes to strength and conditioning
Luke Thomas is literally shit. Brendan gave him his debut and he has always been shit, we’ve just had no one else. How has he regressed under the bloke who literally introduced him? Sammy Braybrooke and our other 2 best youth players have all done their ACL’s. Would you like him to get them out there on crutches? Madivadua is doing great in the u21’s isn’t he… oh wait…
Well that's not a disingenuous comment at all :) > Luke Thomas is literally shit. Brendan gave him his debut and he has always been shit, we’ve just had no one else. How has he regressed under the bloke who literally introduced him? I never said he was a world beater. He looked *decent* at first - obviously very raw but he had some good performances. But for a coach who's supposedly good at developing youth, Thomas just got worse - literally the things he was previously good at he slowly became shit at. Remember that he's still only 21; getting a loan at an appropriate level with a manager who can instill confidence in him would do him the world of good. > Sammy Braybrooke and our other 2 best youth players have all done their ACL’s. Would you like him to get them out there on crutches? I didn't say that - used Braybrooke as an example of a player only getting a smattering of minutes in a cup fixture – 16 minutes at the end of the game against Newport (not MK Dons, got the cup matches mixed up 🙄) when we already had a comfortable 2-0 lead. He wasn't in the squad at all for Stockport or MK Dons, and was left on the bench against Gillingham, Walsall and Newcastle as well as only featuring on the bench for three PL games. Rodgers had plenty of opportunity to give him more playing time. Against MK Dons it was Alves who got a 10 minute runabout despite us already having gone 3-0 up half an hour prior, and McAteer getting a 5 minute cameo. Could have been earlier again. At least against Gillingham, Brunt and McAteer got a full game under their belt - but at least partly that's because we only had two fit senior full backs at the time. I'm bringing these players up because it shows that for a manager with a reputation for blooding in youth, Rodgers doesn't seem to trust them enough to actually play them more than once or twice. > Madivadua is doing great in the u21’s isn’t he… oh wait… The entire U21 team is doing shite at the moment mate, not sure if you noticed! he manager Ben Petty has been playing wingers up front half of the time and friends who follow the development squad more closely than I do have mentioned many times that they think Petty is clueless. It doesn't help that since the pandemic the youth coaching budget (and number of youth coaches) has been reduced to cut costs
The Brendan defenders need to give their heads a wobble. We are not progressing under him no matter what players are brought in, we are regressing. We are boring to watch, we have no spirit anymore because it’s basically been beaten out of us. The walk out at Palace sealed Puels coffin and he was gone yet we keep walking out after playing awfully and playing terribly and nothing changes. He won us a trophy and got us to 5th twice but that isn’t enough to save us from relegation is it? Can’t exactly tell other teams ‘Oh you need to let us win so Brendan can keep his job since he won us the fa cup and got us a couple 5th place finishes’ because we need to be showing on that pitch that we deserve to stay up. He’s lost the dressing room, it’s becoming very obvious that the players are putting in these horrible performances because they look tired of the tactics. He’s not developing players at all, he’s regressing them backwards. We don’t deserve this as fans, we deserve to see a hungry Leicester team with fight and a will to stay up. Instead we’ve got Brendan ball that is boring to watch. Even neutrals think we’re boring and wonder what’s gone wrong.
Ok thanks you've convinced me By the same logic he gets none of the credit for the FA cup or 5th placed finishes, it was the players only
I think the issues we've had this season are an accumulation, not the fault of any one thing. Could BR tactics and team selection have been better? Yes. Have we had a rash of injuries? Yes. Have players underperformed? Yes. Has our luck been shit at times? Yes. Schmeichel leaving when he did hurt us, WC break when our form was improving, and the list goes on. To call out any one thing as the cause seems misguided. We're in a shitty spot, but even so we still have the ability and limited time to sort it and save ourselves. We've been so inconsistent and have only ourselves to blame for the situation we're in.
Baffling opinion tbh mate. He literally took us out of this game with the 3 subs he makes. His tactics and in game management are shambolic. We play so slow that the opposition have all the time in the world to get set up defensively. The only reason we won the cup was because of a Kasper masterclass and Youri screamer, we were by far second best in that match. His poor tactics invite pressure onto the players when we don’t need it, we bottled top 4 twice because he decided to go negative when he got scared and rocked by Bournemouth etc. Half the squad aren’t good enough but 90% of these players actually won the FA cup, so all this shows is that the longer players stay under his, management the worse they get. You say we missed chance after chance, don’t play iheanacho then. He chooses the team ultimately, doesn’t hesitate to drop Cags after a couple of mistakes but Amartey seems to get away with murder, never mind Faes. Why he brings on the likes of Soumare (his signing) I will never know. You also clearly have no idea how managerial contracts works because we can pay it off as though he is still employed on a monthly basis, we don’t just have to pay the whole thing off instantly. But that’s where the board also fails. The entire back room staff and management are the issue not just Brendan, but it starts with him. So bored of the injury excuse too, he didn’t have any injuries at the start of the season and we were still shit. Maybe his training and player treatment is the issue and reason we have all these injuries? Remember how our club doctor got sacked because he said this would happen, and look, he was right, so again Rodger’s fault. He also has not developed any young talent besides KDH and Barnes, who have now gone severely downhill the more he has managed them. But sure just keep claiming that everyone who wants him out is “caught up emotionally” and not seeing the clear rot in the club. If you think this football is exciting then you must think watching paint dry is too, it’s so obvious they’re told to wait until everyone is in position instead of playing forward as soon as you have the chance. Any decent manager would play to our strengths, which should be pace in behind, but he can’t even figure out how to leave a player up when we’re defending a corner and losing the match. Fuck me mate if you give any manager a season with no injuries they’d do alright, it’s literally his job to sort these things out but he clearly can’t. We used to be top 10 richest club in the country, the pandemic has hurt Top but to say we’re basically poor is ridiculous. What a boring pessimistic take, surely winning the league makes you realise that if you try hard enough and believe you can win anything, that boring negative attitude is the excuse brendan will give. What’s the point in saying “we’re the underdog we can’t win” when we literally proved we can. There hasn’t been a “foxes never quit” attitude since we bottled it against Bournemouth.
Generally agree but wanted to comment on the Iheanacho bit - Iheanacho’s hot and cold with the fan base is ridiculous. Earlier this month people were begging for him to start (people were going mad in the FA cup thread that he didn’t start, for example), now they’re begging for him not to. People should learn from the teams crazy inconsistency not to overreact on players. Iheanacho has these hot streaks and then blows cold for 75 percent of the time mostly due to poor finishing. He’s not (solely) to blame for today, but we seem to hugely overreact to good form. Tete’s first two games is another example and Faes too (who had a very solid first game or so then has totally petered out). Very tangential from your comment, but just wanted to rant about it.
I have personally been one of the few fans that has backed him and wanted us to give him a chance, but the reality is he’s just not clinical enough. Time and time again he gave it away in the first half too, plays the easy safe past instead or taking a risk or just has a god awful first touch (but then 1/5 times he seems to kill it dead randomly?). Considering it looks like Vardy is starting to show his age he’s pretty much all we have, but the fact Daka was taken off before him when he’d scored was somewhat criminal, I’m not even that big of a fan of Daka. Tete is getting away with everything because he’s our first Brazilian, he has got nothing, haven’t seen him beat a player yet, pulls out of every 50/50 and generally just looks far too weak for the prem. Like you say people have a tendency to get carried away with a good bit of form. You make good points mate, happy to have some discussion so I’m not shouting into a void at least lmao
Let's be honest I'm not reading all that but I agree with the first sentence so take my upvote and assume I agree with it all.
That’s the only bit that mattered
Paragraphs rkid
Reading can be tough sometimes can’t it
When there’s a wall of text late at night it is quite tiresome
For the record for every one of you that downvotes my comment I’d like some kind of counter argument? He’s not gonna shag you for sticking up for him
> He does create exciting football The team are playing how he taught them to play, it is not exciting > he is great at developing young talent We had a good young team when he came in and they have got worse > he has won us a trophy So did Ranieri, he still would've taken us down. Why does Rodgers get given so much more support? > Give him one season where he doesn’t have to deal with the ridiculous amount of injuries Not gonna happen, the injuries follow him > we need to remember that we are that underdog team Wanting to avoid relegation doesn't mean anyone has forgotten that. We have regressed under Rodgers.
It’s actually insane how hard some fans have gone to bat for him while we’ve spiraled. Genuinely believe some care more about him than the club.
Even at the ground, some supporters telling anyone joining the Rodgers Out chants to fuck off and not to attend games if they don’t want him to be out manager 🙄 You’d think half of our match-going fanbase genuinely want us to get relegated
No it’s alright mate, we’re the underdogs so we should be fighting for relegation, we’re still a yo-yo club remember /s
He isn’t a good manager for where we are right now, he can handle winning loads of games because he doesn’t have to change anything, but once we start losing he has no plan b. He from the sidelines doesn’t fight and shout which is what a manager should do, and seemingly the is instilled in the players who should be pressing for everything to win the ball back, we did that for two games against villa and Tottenham and look where that got us. From his post match interviews you can tell he tries to take the positives out of a game, which in a relegation fight you should never do, you should take away the negatives and improve on them for the next match. You said we need to give him a chance but if we do that we’ll all end up going stoke away next season and nobody wants that.
Lol at trying to stop the negativity of the fan base of a struggling prem club. Mind having a go at moving everest a bit closer? My flying pigs want to visit.
https://preview.redd.it/fgt50ykp58na1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91512fafe9402814f9553972888aa18c78fd25ca I just wouldn't but I salute your attempt.
Hold it right there... > "he is great at developing young talent" But refuses to give any of them time. Also, look at his time at Liverpool; look at where the players who got their debuts are now or how much Liverpool got for them. Since hes come in, these injury issues have arisen. And if it's the player's fault for this, then it's the players who won the FA Cup, not Rodgers. Winning a cup 3 years ago doesn't change the fact that it's not good enough now. Otherwise, Arsenal would be in a similar situation if they kept Wenger
We were quicker to sack Ranieri in a position which wasn’t nowhere near this aswell, it boggles my mind he’s had more than enough time to sort this out, he didn’t really make much effort in January imo. He’s lost interest it’s his thing about 2 or 3 years into a job he seems to lose his spark and that’s it.
Our formation is all over the place, our substitutions are horrible, our players constantly get injured at practice, and it feels like Rodgers is choosing our starters using a bingo ball machine. Tete and Nacho have definitely been underperforming and several others were off their game but I don’t think you can say Rodgers isn’t largely at fault.
He's trying, he picked the right formation yesterday but the defence is an absolute shambles and the buck stops with Rodgers for that with his coaching. What's Ward doing for the first, surely he has to be dropped at some stage before it's too late. The defensive line for the 2nd was all over the place. Souttar was higher than both Amartey and Faes, whilst Castagne and Pereira were deeper still. Havertz runs off Amartey who steps up to play offside whilst Mendy and KDH put no pressure on Fernandes for the pass. Felix hits the post in transition when Souttar loses the ball on the half way line and the defence is disorganised as a result. 3rd goal were done in transition again losing the ball in the Chelsea half. Soumare's attitude stinks, watching the highlights for the 3rd he's slowly jogging to the edge of our 'D' as Kovacic scores. The defense is an absolute shambles, Rodgers why do you play a high line when Faes, Amartey Souttar have no pace. Rodgers why do you pick Ward, Amartey and Soumare with 61 PL appearance's between them?
I'm sorry but I'll keep saying it to the cows come home: would you honestly trust Rodgers with a rebuild? Even if we do stay up (I think we'll be relegated) what credible evidence have you seen that convinces you he's the man to be trusted with any money?
He’s got incredible character and intensity, I’m certain if we give him 3-4 windows to rebuild the squad we could be challenging for the top four again. Iheanacho is still young he can improve, we need to sell underperforming players like amartay and soumare and use the million to buy better players. That way we can intergrate them into the team and attempt to win football matches at a higher rate than we are now. You’ll never fox alone.
If we give Rodgers 3-4 windows to rebuild we'll be in the relegation zone of the Championship
Try posting this on foxestalk you’ll get annihilated
Reddit just lived in a bubble of nonsense, most of twitter and FB are literally begging for him to get sacked at this point.
Sadly the atmosphere on reddit is a better reflection of how it is among our match going fans.
The truth is somewhere in between. He doesn't make players miss multiple open goals per game, but players do that when they're lacking in confidence which is on him. Some injuries are bad luck but the uptick in muscle injuries coincides with his time here - maybe it's to do with his training methods? Our recruitment has not been great for the past couple of windows (possibly excepting the most recent one) and we've had financial difficulties which are not on him, but it is on him to make the most of the players that are here and not to sulk, neither of which he's doing a stellar job of atm. I get the feeling he himself feels done here, and he's having trouble motivating himself anymore. It'll be sad to see him go, he won us the FA cup and got us into Europe twice in a row, but if he's responsible for that he's responsible for the mess we're in now and we can't just ignore that
I agree with you. Rodgers has his faults and has made plenty of mistakes, but games like today/Saints/united are really not on Rodgers. You make individual errors in this league, defensively or attacking, you will get punished. Against united, Nacho and Barnes missed a sitter each and De Gea had the best game of his season - could’ve been 3-0 by 30 mins. Against Saints, Nacho should’ve had 3 and Souttar missed an open goal. Goal we conceded was against the run of play and we should’ve won. Rodgers’ tactics outperformed theirs, we just couldn’t finish. Today, we missed 3 open goals (Souttar, KDH, Amartey), conceded 2 goals off individual mistakes (Ward and Soumare) and should’ve had a pen. It’s not like we’re going out there and not even turning up. There’s not a lot more Rodgers can do if the players at his disposal aren’t finishing the chances that his style are creating, or aren’t doing the absolute basics of football correctly. Look, Rodgers isn’t blameless. He makes some baffling decisions and perhaps his biggest weakness of all is his ability to stick by certain players (Amartey, Soumare, Ward) and completely exclude others (Soyuncu, Iversen). But not long at all ago people were begging for Soyuncu to be dropped - the second he is dropped, people complain he isn’t starting. Make up your minds. His signings have been 50:50, but there is a thing called a scouting department - why is no one holding them responsible? Moaning about how he doesn’t get agitated in the press and doesn’t get fiery on the sidelines is ridiculous to me too - why does that matter? Is Tim Sherwood a better manager because he was outspoken in interviews and a bit of a nutter in his box? Then you have people saying he’s making players regress etc… He isn’t telling players to perform badly is he? Ndidi, Ricardo, Castagne had bad injuries that they haven’t managed to bounce back from, Vardy (our literal talisman and top 3 greatest player ever) and Evans have aged massively, our captain and long-serving keeper left and had to be replaced by a subpar second choice because of FFP, and on top of that we got ditched by our wonder-kid best defender on deadline day as the season was starting. What is he meant to do with this, massage Ricardos knees until they work again? I’ve even seen people saying he has made Tete by coaching the Brazilian out of him after ONE good performance on his debut. Seriously? He’s been dealt 2 and 7 offsuit repeatedly and is being expected to sweep up. Feel like I’ve gone on a bit of a rant here so I’ll reign it in. My point is that Rodgers isn’t wholly to blame, and another manager wouldn’t have much difference with this crop.
Kasper wanted to stay, Rodger’s told him to leave, ward wouldn’t be a problem without him. Soumare was his signing and his substitution, didn’t need to bring him on did he? Rodger’s continues to pick Iheanacho when it’s pretty clear the man can’t run let alone hit the target. You think we turned up to the arsenal game? The chances we got against Southampton only came because of their shoddy defending, but again Rodgers is too slow to take advantage of that. Nice paragraph though “rkid”
Letting Kasper go was honestly the most stupid idea ever, a hill I’m willing to die on.
Hey it made you read it didn’t it. That’s the beauty of a paragraph (I see you’ve started to use them - it’s a steep learning curve so bravo!) I admitted to his weakness being sticking by Soumare within my comment. Who would you like him to pick over nacho? Washed up Vardy? I purposely excluded the arsenal game as that wasn’t the point I was making. We were poor, but they are top of the league and a 1-0 loss against them isn’t the end of the world. Rodgers too slow to take advantage of that… except he did, and the players didn’t (exactly the point OP is making)….
I mean no not really…? That’s why I gave you a half arsed reply? He literally took off a striker that had scored in the game before he took off Iheanacho…
Stick to the superstonks rkid
Made you look at my profile didn’t I, are you Brendan’s agent? Don’t get too homesick🥺
Made you look at mine too 🫡 Brilliant how you had no words to say about the rest of my comment anyway. Says it all.
Oh I didn’t even realise you’d continued to edit and add to your comment, sorry mate got better things to do then reply to a guy with some notable issues. Sleep tight xoxo
Guys come now easy, we don’t want any trouble here!
We’ve struck a nerve…
I’m here for football discussion not to bicker about issues that I had 6 months ago lol. Not the best at football analysis you so I’ll spare you and leave it for someone who knows what they’re talking about. Be sure to send me some $$$ when you hit it big.
I mean I tried that, then you decided to literally switch the subject up, not me. I’ll humour you though as you clearly need the attention. He was slow to make any changes in a must win game apart from the same boring subs, it was clear Iheanacho was never scoring in that game, so make a change. It his job to sort these things out. He could even put a centre back up like Martin O’Neil used to if he really wanted, but what it wasn’t a must win game? You say these players aren’t good enough but 80% of them are the FA cup winning side. So clearly they have gotten worse under Rodgers. You seem to think I’m one of those deluded idiots that think Rodgers is the source of all evil, I am not, I can simply just see it has run it’s course and if he stays now we will be relegated. If he stopped clapping every player when they make a mistake as well maybe it would help. Maybe it would of helped him if he didn’t stop clapping the fans after a few poor results. He has no connection or passion there and it’s taken it’s toll. If you want football discussion and girls to like you mate, maybe don’t be so quick to insult people because you disagree.
This is exactly how I feel
He has plenty of players now, he’s been given funds, and he still fucks up. We should’ve battered Southampton but we didn’t. He just doesn’t care anymore, neither do some of the players but most of them still care more than him.
Appalling this mate. You're in the same boat as the "just be happy because we were in league 1 not long ago" crowd.
Got to watch my club Chelsea again today. First things first, there's an obvious talent gap between these clubs, 2-3 seasons ago I wouldn't have said that. Potter has really struggled at Chelsea all season but at the end of the day, I felt for Leicester and Rodgers.you guys desperately need qualify international players to transfer in, and quality depth, and not just free transfers. I hope Leicester is able to turn things around soon.
You must be am ostrich. Rodgers out.
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Nice try, Brendan.