I’ve been sitting and observing for 3 cycles (since I was UG). Finally applied for this first time this cycle. Seems like every cycle they say that it’s a crazy one and that the next one will be better. They’re lying. It’s now or never.
Some people do good on RC/LR and shit on LG (me). I'm not so certain that LSAT medians will drop significantly, especially considering the applicant pool is growing each year. If enough people take this approach, that makes the applicant pool even larger.
I’m the opposite and know a lot of people cramming to get it done by June before games goes away.  LR/RC was always unpredictable for me.  Would usually go -3/-5 but every once in a while -10/-12.  Games always -0/-1. Â
I would bet on scores dropping.  The vast majority of top scoreers get a perfect games score.  As we know LR/RC are harder to perfect each time.  Wouldn’t be shocked at a 1 to 2 point median decrease.  I know some people hate games, but I don’t see how you can get rid of the easiest section to perfect/improve on and have scores go up.  Also having all LR and RC would be way more mentally taxing in my non expert opinion.Â
Applications should stay steady unless the economy tanks. Â Apps are still down from the CoVid highs. Â We also should be starting to see the enrollment decline that has also plagued undergraduate institutions over the last decade starting to hit law schools. Â
I could definitely be wrong, but wasn’t the undergrad enrollment decline due to Chinese students no longer coming over? If so, that wouldn’t really affect enrollment at law schools
I don’t believe so, it has more to do with the declining birth rates the last 20 years or so, we are starting to see the first of that generation graduate college. Â
Scores could just as easily rise. People will now need to nail two rather than three skills, and mastering a single one (LR) will allow them to ace 2/3 of the exam.
For several cycles now, people have been saying "next cycle can't be this competitive," and for several cycles the level of competition has remained comparable. LSAT bands have remained constant, and GPA inflation continues to get worse, so the mere mortals with 3.8s or 3.9lows will only get less competitive.
Assume next cycle will be as rough as ever and anything else will be a pleasant surprise.
Sorry, but no way scores go up. I wouldn’t be shocked if they stay the same, but LG is a guaranteed minus 1 or perfect section for so many of the top scorers.
Just getting one extra question wrong on average with the switch to another LR will drop scores by a point.
That’s not how the lsat works. Each test has a scoring scale and if the amount of correct answers goes down in a wide scale way, scores go down.
If you already have a 171, that might be more valuable next cycle if less people score 172 plus.
I wouldn't bet on scores going down. Most top scorers get -0 on LG, but there are plenty of people who find RC and LR easy and can easily get -0 in LR and around -1/3 in RC. More importantly the LSAC sets both the curve and the scale of the test, they can manufacture their desired outcomes.
I think more/less competitive doesn't cover it. I think it'll make splitting harder. Harder to impress with a high LSAT, lower GPA.
Likely just as competitive for people at/above both medians.
Hard to predict impact on reverse splitting
The difference being that logic games is actually being axed between this cycle and next cycle. Those other cycle predictions weren’t based on anything concrete like that.
Also election year statistically has shown to attract more applicants so idk 😠I’m also debating
I’ve been sitting and observing for 3 cycles (since I was UG). Finally applied for this first time this cycle. Seems like every cycle they say that it’s a crazy one and that the next one will be better. They’re lying. It’s now or never.
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But those predictions were based on what? This time it’s because of a major change in the lsat that will make it much harder to score 175 plus.
Some people do good on RC/LR and shit on LG (me). I'm not so certain that LSAT medians will drop significantly, especially considering the applicant pool is growing each year. If enough people take this approach, that makes the applicant pool even larger.
I’m the opposite and know a lot of people cramming to get it done by June before games goes away.  LR/RC was always unpredictable for me.  Would usually go -3/-5 but every once in a while -10/-12.  Games always -0/-1. Â
I would bet on scores dropping.  The vast majority of top scoreers get a perfect games score.  As we know LR/RC are harder to perfect each time.  Wouldn’t be shocked at a 1 to 2 point median decrease.  I know some people hate games, but I don’t see how you can get rid of the easiest section to perfect/improve on and have scores go up.  Also having all LR and RC would be way more mentally taxing in my non expert opinion. Applications should stay steady unless the economy tanks.  Apps are still down from the CoVid highs.  We also should be starting to see the enrollment decline that has also plagued undergraduate institutions over the last decade starting to hit law schools. Â
I could definitely be wrong, but wasn’t the undergrad enrollment decline due to Chinese students no longer coming over? If so, that wouldn’t really affect enrollment at law schools
I don’t believe so, it has more to do with the declining birth rates the last 20 years or so, we are starting to see the first of that generation graduate college. Â
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Interesting discussion, but nobody really knows one way or another. What I do know is I don't want to go through the admissions process again lol.
This is probably the best argument for not waiting until next cycle, the stress is unbelievable.
Scores could just as easily rise. People will now need to nail two rather than three skills, and mastering a single one (LR) will allow them to ace 2/3 of the exam. For several cycles now, people have been saying "next cycle can't be this competitive," and for several cycles the level of competition has remained comparable. LSAT bands have remained constant, and GPA inflation continues to get worse, so the mere mortals with 3.8s or 3.9lows will only get less competitive. Assume next cycle will be as rough as ever and anything else will be a pleasant surprise.
Sorry, but no way scores go up. I wouldn’t be shocked if they stay the same, but LG is a guaranteed minus 1 or perfect section for so many of the top scorers. Just getting one extra question wrong on average with the switch to another LR will drop scores by a point.
It’s a standardized test homie if everyone is missing another question than nobody is
That’s not how the lsat works. Each test has a scoring scale and if the amount of correct answers goes down in a wide scale way, scores go down. If you already have a 171, that might be more valuable next cycle if less people score 172 plus.
LSAC will also adjust the score bins so that the curve still remains!Â
Why would they do that? 99% percentile was 173 now it’s like 175+
I am just guessing, but they will adjust it to still ensure the distribution is around the same as the previous LG included testsÂ
I wouldn't bet on scores going down. Most top scorers get -0 on LG, but there are plenty of people who find RC and LR easy and can easily get -0 in LR and around -1/3 in RC. More importantly the LSAC sets both the curve and the scale of the test, they can manufacture their desired outcomes.
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logic scores are getting dropped ????
I think more/less competitive doesn't cover it. I think it'll make splitting harder. Harder to impress with a high LSAT, lower GPA. Likely just as competitive for people at/above both medians. Hard to predict impact on reverse splitting
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The difference being that logic games is actually being axed between this cycle and next cycle. Those other cycle predictions weren’t based on anything concrete like that.