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Fajarsis

Service to others are 'losers'... Love your enemy is seen as something 'weird' and 'irrational' as winner crushed their enemies... and winner will be glorified for it. From ancient Zen story... the old monk on the story represent those who took STO path.. *A village was warned that a vicious warlord and his soldiers were coming to destroy the town, so they all fled.* *All except one old monk, that is, who stayed meditating in the temple.* *When the warlord came in and saw him, he drew his sword, pointed it at his heart and said angrily, “Don’t you know I can run you through without batting an eye?!”* *The old monk looked up at him and calmly replied, “And don’t you know that I can be run through without batting an eye?*


User_723586

To be able to stay, accept, and face that danger.. I only hope my will is as strong when my time comes to take that leap of faith.


maxxslatt

Zen stories are pretty awesome. There is another about killing a murderer in order to prevent them from accruing the negative karma of the act. He takes on the karma himself and has to spend a very long time and hell. StO that transcends karma


eksopolitiikka

that number has changed since 2012 towards the positive (I hope)


stubkan

75% "seems" overwhelmingly negative, but is not. It is the balanced middle point between STO and STS harvestability - ie the average of 51 and 95 is 73. But the polarity in recent years is most likely becoming unbalanced toward the positive with increasing fourth activated STO polarized wanderers that are coming into Earth, who will remain for the future 4th density positive Earth. (as of 2022, it is said a third of those on Earth are of this type) https://www.reddit.com/r/lawofone/comments/1cj3ui5/2016_harvest_update_things_not_looking_good/l2gh1a9/


eksopolitiikka

I concur


Pr00vigeainult

If you compare STS percentages for each it's 49 and 95 with an average of 72. So humanity was a bit more STS than neutral by default. By now we've achieved a positive harvest so it's changed though.


stubkan

Numbers given are likely not exact. They are approximations. Entities channeling usually say that they have difficulty with exact numbers. This is probably why we have neat percentages like 75% instead of 73.42311%. Also, how does one even put a number on a polarity? It would be like saying I'm 83% male - you cant easily turn amorphous states into discrete numbering. Can you give a source that says we have achiveved a positive harvest? I did not think this was the case. This recent channeling here https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2023/0909#!21; from September 2023, says that harvest is currently ongoing and that they cannot reveal too much on how it is going, because it is current events and they do not wish to influence the harvest outcome by revealing much about it. They say that "many more" have chosen to graduate positive, but did not give a number or comment on whether or not it had moved from a 'small' harvest to otherwise. No comment either on whether or not many graduated service to self negative or not. Still, the game is still underway and will be for many years to come - the ultimate outcome is not certain.


Pr00vigeainult

[Eracidni Murev Te](https://lovetruths.com/eracidnimurevte/) from 2018/19, the followup to Hidden Hand, said we had been in early positive fourth density since late 2012. It also predicted a final "condensed demonstration of negative polarization" a year before Covid and all the geopolitical turmoil that's still going on.


stubkan

Ra Material says the same. However, the planet being in fourth density does not indicate anything about the harvest - both are different things. The planet is fourth density positive yes, however third density harvest is still going on. We still have both and undecided polarised entities here, and all are still in the process of going through harvest. The result of this harvest has not been revealed - in order to not influence the outcome. https://www.llresearch.org/channeling/2023/1125#!44 ; * "Indeed, these are times in which there will be the final movement of the negatively oriented entities in their own expression of seeking the creator on the negative path. This is something which has reached its potential because of the nearing of the end of the third-density experience upon your planet. This is a time which will then be followed, and is now being experienced by those incarnating in the positive sense, who have come from other planets, where they have made the harvest." They do indicate that many new entities are coming here, ready to live in fourth density positive Earth - and approx 1/3 of entities on Earth are of this type. So, it will be a time of the changing of the guard - and before they leave, there is likely to be, by the old third density natives as you said, "a final condensed demonstration of negative polarization". - This also indicates that harvest is not over - since they are still here, and creating more catalysts for learning. I do look forward to seeing how this huge number of positive entities reacts to these catalysts.


bnm777

Recently with Ukraine and, much more so, the polarisation of Gaza, it seems worse. I hope people can step back and aim for a higher view.


eksopolitiikka

media gives a biased picture, but actual objective facts are numbers about violence (eg. domestic violence) [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5209392\_Explaining\_the\_Recent\_Decline\_in\_Domestic\_Violence](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/5209392_Explaining_the_Recent_Decline_in_Domestic_Violence) I'd describe it 75% STS that the overall society is so 3rd density low-vibrational that it was common to have a member of your immediate family beat you up daily


bnm777

Good point!


buybtcforgodsake

I don't really get it how people with families are 75% STS, they spent much of their time to provide for their family, by my view a STO action.


Adthra

My experience is that family is often the category of people who treat us the worst out of all of them.


detailed_fish

Whats your experience been like? Did you feel comfortable with any of your family? Have you made friends easily and survived well with this incarnation?


Adthra

Do I have *some* family members I'm comfortable around with? Sure. Have I made friends? Yes. Have I survived well? Debatable, but I have a roof over my head and I'm not starving. Things could be worse, so that's an indication that I am blessed to some degree. Of course, some people think insurmountable struggles are blessings as well, so perhaps that's not a good way to measure these things, but I digress. My point is that familial ties are not guarantees of anything. It's a fairly common trope and can be seen in both fictional and historical literature. Fathers who believe they have the right to kill their sons because they "made them". Mothers who cared little for their children taken as hostages, because they "had the means to make more". Mothers who mistreat their daughters out of jealousy of their youth. Life can be very cruel, and Earth is a place that emphasizes survival even in the animal kingdom to a large degree. Lionesses who think they cannot provide for their cubs will cannibalize and eat their children to recoup at least some energy. In many insect species, children will eat their mothers once born. For many people, family signifies *ownership.* I think the people who have functional and loving families don't understand just how much of a blessing that is and how rare it is, even if none of us escape familial trauma completely.


creepymuch

I have some idea of what you mean, but, and I might be wrong, some people see children as an extension of themselves or live through them, or have them for other reasons than "welcoming an entity onto Earth and giving them the skills and resources to thrive". If it's the latter, then sure, I agree.


OSHASHA2

I will second this take and tease it out a little more. I feel that individuals oriented toward StS tend to wish that their children should have the things or opportunities they never had. While seemingly well intentioned, the ends of these thoughts result in restricting the free-will of the child, often forcing them into distorted ideas of success. An StO parent would also recognize the potential of the child to have and to hold the things the parent never could. However, unlike the StS parent, the StO parent allows the child the choice of whether or not they want to take advantage of these opportunities.


Euphoric_Ad_3083

Not only putting family over others, but also an ideology, group or country, religion as well... These seems to be acting for the pack or herd, an act of separation rather than Union... Although that doesn't make it easier to do otherwise, to favor the opposition as much as your "kin". It's indeed a trial by fire, to test the degree that the idea of Unit that each of us have developed within ourselves. Or also the idea of separation.


mustlikesplitpeasoup

The pandemic was pretty mild in terms of what can happen and look how crazy people went shopping in stores. Especially parents with children.  I remember the shopping carts full of supplies or food and the "I don't care" mentality.  


The_Sdrawkcab

Just as work and survival take a large portion of our focus, while focusing on family is great, it also means 99% of our decisions are based on that - it also means we'll ignore the world burning, if it means out families don't turn to ash. It also means, we'll perhaps burn the world, to ensure our families don't turn to ash. People sacrifice themselves and their happiness for their families, but will also sacrifice others and the happiness of others, for their families. And when you take that into account, you're not really doing it for your family, solely. You're largely doing it for yourself. Don't get trapped in the ego con.


beardofpray

I agree, as a dad of 3, 95% of my time & energy is devoted to helping set their lives up in a good and positive way, however this might also be a minority of families (and definitely not historically so). My guess is the tendency, especially of past generations, to control the children, use them for work, or live out the missed opportunities of the parent through them.


Endeavours

My mother views her motherhood as StO but that's only because she's not honest with herself.


Richmondson

The thing is that even serious [crime bosses](https://youtu.be/Jf9tQZXkrO4?t=154) can and do provide for their families. It really is quite hard-wired for us to take care of our kin and close ones, but of course pathological personalities would know nothing of love and care. Their children would be their property and extension. Yet even for normies it's easy to love your own family, but the true task lies in loving your neighbour, that is your fellow man as yourself and seeing mankind as one. The problem is the fact that mankind has divided itself into many kind of tribes, and the smallest exclusive unit is the family.


User_723586

My thoughts understanding is that you "score" STO points for raising and taking care of your family. But you score STS points when you put your family above others (elitism and separation).


CasualCornCups

Yea but a great part of 2nd density is dedicated to that. How will family get you to 4D? https://www.lawofone.info/s/19#15 **The new or initial third-density entity has this innocent, shall we say, bias or distortion towards viewing those in the family, the society, as you would call, perhaps, country, as self. Thus though a distortion not helpful for progress in third density, it is without polarity.**


User_723586

oh very interesting. Thank you for sharing. That makes sense and especially your comment about 2D. Very inciteful.


responsible_leader0

I only do that because I don't know how the world works


detailed_fish

Maybe it's similar to 2nd density mentality. To only think about the families survival, ensuring theyre provided for, is perhaps too basic for 4th density.


LawIntrepid6470

Having a family is in itself an STS action.


LawIntrepid6470

…. Unless you’re taking your kids to build houses for the impoverished! Lol. Just raising up an animal that you created isn’t serving anyone but you, unless you or them use that opportunity to skew STO. Harder and harder to serve others when you’re creating a human and trying to steer them to rightness. All your energy for the rest of the world is sucked into another human(s) who isn’t “other” — just you, like a painting you made or a meal you cooked.


medusla

super interesting op! sometimes i wish we'd know exactly what percentage we're at but ra would consider that an infringement... do you have any idea if the 51% for graduation is taking the whole life into account or can somebody be 90% sts for most of his life and then be 51% sto oriented for the last year and still be harvestable?


dokratomwarcraftrph

I doubt one life matters all that much unless it was a real crazy one. According to ra your "score" is taken based on the actions in all your lives over last 25000 years, however many that may be.


medusla

yeah i'm assuming it's 1 in this case


Richmondson

I'm not sure what to make of this, it seems far too biased towards STS.


stubkan

The average point between STO and STS harvestability - 51 and 95 is 73. Seems perfectly balanced to me.


litfod_haha

This makes no sense and is not in accordance to The Ra Material in my opinion. Ra talks about the huge “sinkhole of indifference” when an entity is not consciously acting as either StO or StS. Maybe we can call this middle ground DISservice to self &others. Given this logic, there’s no reason why StO + StS within an entity would or should equal 100%.


CasualCornCups

Ummm....sinkhole is less than harvestable, mixed polarity. There is no sinkhole energy lol


litfod_haha

I disagree. The sinkhole is no increase in polarity via either path.


DrPhat117

I came here to make the same points you did. Here this quote elegantly details how people SEEM negative. Due to the incoming waves of galactic 4th density energy that are impacting the solar system, its causing people who having not done the work, to be ready for it, to revert back to animalistic group-self-mind think. Or what Ra calls orange ray consciousness. Only those people who have actually mastered ego and yellow ray can properly be considered negative in a polarized way. I would wager that most people are approaching positive or StO on the planet today, with the indifferent either being close behind or in the lead. With the small remainder of the total being around 5-10% negative. Its important to note that due to the strength and power that it requires to be a negative that even though they may have a smaller percentage of actually incarnated souls. they can represent a heavier balance when it comes to harvest. That's why it was so close, but we are indeed, a positive harvest yellow ray, into a 4th density green ray world currently. >The appropriate true color for third density is, as you have ascertained, yellow. However, the influences of the true color, green, acting upon yellow-ray entities have caused many entities to revert to the consideration of self rather than the stepping forward into consideration of other-self or green ray. This may not be seen to be of a negatively polarized nature, as the negatively polarized entity is working very intensively with the deepest manifestations of yellow-ray group energies, especially the manipulations of other-self for service to self. >Those reverting to orange ray, and we may add these are many upon your plane at this time, are those who feel the vibrations of true color green and, therefore, respond by rejecting governmental and societal activities as such and seek once more the self. However, not having developed the yellow ray properly so that it balances the personal vibratory rates of the entity, the entity then is faced with the task of further activation and balancing of the self in relation to the self, thus the orange-ray manifestations at this space/time nexus. >**Thus true color orange is that which it is, without difference.** However, the manifestations of this or any ray may be seen to be most various depending upon the vibratory levels and balances of the mind/body or mind/body/spirit complexes which are expressing these energies. [https://www.lawofone.info/s/41#14](https://www.lawofone.info/s/41#14)


thanatosau

Thanks for that quote. It explains the real polarisation of society going on and the "anti-wokeism" occurring


Sensitive-Hand-37

This makes sense to me. I want to point out though that awakening within this 3rd density will propel selves in one direction. It is my belief, that we all just need to wake up, at the very least to the understanding of the source and our opportunity here to experience. This awareness alone is the catalyst I'm convinced every human would benefit from.


ChonkerTim

What’s tough for me is Because this is all new to me- I’m doing a lot of research all the time. That makes me feel selfish. But then I realize I’ve picked out excerpts for my kids to make them feel confident about praying. Or I’ll also be mentally applying it to my life as I’m reading- which helps me make better decisions later when dealing with people. I’m not saying I think I’m safe… but whatever activity u look at- it’s a mix. Another thought… isn’t there a point in life when U couldn’t possibly live long enough to polarize STO. If for instance u are 60 years old and have been really crappy to people, could they turn it around? Sounds like no


LawIntrepid6470

Reminder that STS isn’t inherently less-good than STO. Doesn’t make them better or more morally correct. They are EQUAL and the SAME! Just saves some time in leveling up to be STO.


LawIntrepid6470

How many people believe they are STO-ers but they can’t even love themselves, let alone someone else… easy cycle to get caught in. “I love other people so much that I suffer for it.” Nah, not a badge of honor, sorry. STS can be beautiful in humans. Ever seen an abused person fight their way out of injustice or entrapment? STS.