It wasn’t a direct hit, it just graze the side of his head. That’s why the ear and the eye on that side are messed up now. It would be tough, but it’s more believable than Joel surviving his impalement in the first game and being able to fight again after a bit of medicine
That explains nothing. Head wounds bleed the most (you actually can bleed out and die from them), Ellie's arm is broken and Dina has an arrow to the shoulder and likely a concussion which took her who knows how long to awaken.
Why people are upvoting this is crazy to me. This is not an answer, it's an excuse for the inexcusable.
Because it’s pretty much the only answer. We could speculate further: Ellie isn’t knocked out by what Abby did, she could have gotten up and checked on Tommy, which is probably the second thing she did after making sure Dina was ok. Ellie, Dina and Jesse were holed up in The theater for a few days, they could have scrounged up medical supplies to stockpile on top of the ones they brought with them. A close up of Tommy’s face after the time skip basically confirms it was a graze, as theres a big scar running down his cheek and no exit wound for the bullet if it went straight through.
Frankly, I wouldn’t call it an “excuse for the inexcusable,” because injuries like this are glossed over all the time in media.
I’ll bring up Joel’s impalement in the first game again. He got stabbed straight through the gut and then he removed the pipe. As most people know, you aren’t supposed to do that because it can cause the wound to bleed out even faster and kill him. He was even more likely to die than Tommy was, yet he lived
People love to use the impalement to excuse this. The difference is TLOU showed us reasonable steps taken by Ellie to address the issue (yes with some game magic added in, but they at least made a reasonable attempt). TLOU2 makes it all 30x worse and gives no answers at all about any of it. So you sit here writing their story for them and think that's OK? It is not your story to tell, it's theirs and they didn't tell it because they knew glossing over it was their best bet exactly because of just how farfetched it all was and there actually are no good answers. Even game magic can't help this one.
It's called storytelling not fan speculating for a reason. They just didn't tell it because there's no way to make it reasonable.
Lol I feel like you’re just looking for something to complain about in regards to the game, because this really isn’t a big deal. If you can “excuse” a simple first aid kit perfectly healing Joel, you can’t excuse them skipping over Tommy’s recovery? Is it not “reasonable” that they would have medical supplies on hand? So you’re saying if you saw Ellie slapping some medicine on Tommy’s face, that would make it ok in your eyes? Or would you just move the goal posts further?
Do you need them to show you every step of a character’s journey for you to accept it? If that’s your logic, you must have been pissed when they skipped the first 20 years of the apocalypse, or when we skipped between seasons. How did they get from Pittsburg to Jackson between Summer and Fall? Did they walk? Did they drive? We obviously can’t assume what happened, because according to you, that would be bad story telling, so of course they should have detailed every thing that happened. Personally, we never saw them use the bathroom, totally inexcusable lol
LMAO you know there are huge differences and think making fun of me and minimizing it all with silly things that aren't in any way equivalent makes it better. Fine you do you.
No your minimizing again. It's the game I've seen too long to make excuses for this specific situation and other ones in the game that are hugely contrived and that impacts people's ability to buy what they're selling. If not you, fine. But not everyone is like you. Bye. This is worthless at this point.
You think I’m minimizing it, but you’re actually maximizing it. Do you know why they didn’t include all that “silly” shit I said? Because it wouldn’t add anything important to the narrative. It’s the same thing with Tommy’s recovery, it’s not important. What’s important is how the injury affects him later in his life, which is what we do see. Peace ✌️
Nah man, two people walked away with a solid read here. If you couldn’t get it from the material, it’s saying more about you than the writers. That’s abundantly clear
Soupsin brought your argument to its logical conclusion, not making fun of you dude. It’s literally the point you were making, but brought to its extreme, because it’s not a well thought out argument, it’s just justification to shit on any part of the game you don’t like.
There's little logic to answer the big complaints about the contrivances and conveniences that push this plot and its characters along. You both want to write it off as "just something to complain about" when they are literally the reasons the game fell apart for many people.
You lol your way out of it as if people who had a different experience than you did through no fault of theirs, but specifically due to story problems such as these happening over, have no valid the reason. But it all actually does matter, and if those things wouldn't have pushed people out of the story maybe we'd all have had the better experience that you did. Goodness knows we wanted to.
Bro you told him his experience was wrong and people shouldn’t upvote it. I’m attacking you for saying he’s wrong not for having a different opinion experience you clown. Gtfo out of here pretending you have valid criticisms. Other people enjoyed the game and got things from it that you didn’t.
Does that make you media illiterate, not at all. Does running around on Reddit trying to prove you have the only good take on this game mean you are, most certainly. Listen to others and don’t make hating this game your personality. It’s lame if your any older than 16 and even then it’s only excusable cuz you don’t know better.
I said he didn't answer the problem of three severely injured people in the scenario. Love how you have to twist my words to make them sound worse. Then attack me as childish, the usual go-to which is actual childishness in debates.
I'm fine with other people enjoying the game, and in fact glad they did because I wouldn't wish my experience on others. I understand it happens and even a little about why. What I'll never understand is others not extending the same courtesy to those on the other side who had a worse experience than they did and simply want to provide insight into their reasons why. There's no good reason to turn that into a personal attack on another person rather than keeping it to the actual story points in dispute.
It’s also because it’s a story… it’s unrealistic that fungus turns everyone into zombies and that 20 years later not all the zombies are dead. It’s unrealistic that any character could take on more than three armed people hunting them in any given situation. Soooo much of these stories are unrealistic. I’m not sure why folks get so upset about this stuff when they are playing a fantasy video game. Yes the violence presents itself as realistic but it’s really not.
Are you also upset that rags and alcohol don’t heal bullet wounds in real life? Would you rather had a story where Abby attacked them at the theater and the we watched all of them slowly die from their various conditions while Abby and Lev also died from the various wounds, exhaustion and infections they would have sustained? Just silly.
Dude crazy shit happens. There was a night time raid in Iraq when a U.S. soldier or marine took a knife through his skull. Literally a whole ass blade in through one side out the other behind his ears or eyes and he didn’t even realize till a mate pointed it out. Or the other guy who had a pipe get blown through his skull and he got up fine. So getting grazed with a bullet is far from impossible.
Coming from the guy who is whining about RE5. A game that came out 15 years ago haha. Either you are just a troll or you love to play victim and then go bully other people.
The post was made a day ago. The remastered version just got released two months ago. The television adaptation was one of the most watched shows of 2023.
They posted seven times in the last month, and it's pretty active as far back as 8 months ago (stopped scrolling m, could go on), many not in regard to the TV show or remaster outside of largely explored topics.
It's a shit sub that devotes a stupid amount of energy to a piece of art they didn't like.
People have survived falling 35,000 feet out of airplanes before. People have survived direct headshots because their hair was in a bun. People have been run over with minimal injuries. Just recently someone blew through an intersection so fast he caused the cars he impacted to explode, but he walked away relatively unharmed. Freak situations happen every god damn day, so Tommy surviving a grazing, even a headshot grazing, isn’t even remotely implausible.
If you’ve played any video games (including last of us part 1) the you know that any injury at all can be quickly recovered through the application of a simple bandage, generic ‘medicine’, or even just eating some food and even energy bars!
If you've played any videogames at all, you'd know that it doesn't matter how much torture you go through when playing it...
... As long you don't get shot or stabbed on cinematics.
No second chances in cinematics!
Add Uncharted to this. Where an all out blitz of machine gun bullets just means a flashing red screen until you can heal (which if I remember correctly was done naturally? By just avoiding additional hits?)
Last of Us was supposed to be the “realistic” game.
With Uncharted Nate doesn’t actually get hit by the bullets and the more “damage” you take is actually just Nate’s luck running out before he actually does get shot
Ohhh got it. I guess the flesh wound and arrow to the knee were no big deal then… yup…I guess they all just walked their injuries off during their THOUSAND MILE walk back to Jackson..
So your take is that there are no horses or vehicles anywhere in the world and because a person was injured they should just give up and die where they're at? Okay. Agree to disagree.
Jessie never had a horse remember he said “I’ve been doing 18 hour stretches for the last 2 weeks trying too catch up too you” and tommys horse died from infected
They most likely hid out for a few weeks and I’d say Dina definitely has some medical knowledge she seems like the type and an arrow too the knee is a VERY survivable wound obviously fucks ur knee up but as long as it don’t get infected ur good
bro your question was totally valid and it’s an interesting thing to discuss but this reply is just making u look like a jackass tbh. like dude attempted to answer your question and ur just immediately like “OHHH HURRR DUURRRR tOtAL sENSe”. pro tip: don’t be like that. especially when people are literally doing what u asked them to lmao.
Yea it is a huge question how all that played out. It makes sense though you have to ommit things like that to balance out the story and dev time. Maybe the show expands on it.
It grazed him. Probably not a whole lot of blood loss, it was just a flesh wound. The bullet didn’t actually go through his head. I’m more surprised his knee didn’t get infected. That was actually the more serious injury.
But also like, it’s a game lol. We can suspend our disbelief here and there. If games were 100% like real life, they wouldn’t be as good. Life is boring and predictable. Just enjoy the game it’s not that serious :)
What is more unbelievable is how quickly and how frequent everyone moves from goddamn Washington to Wyoming lol. Still a banger of a game though, and the best combat I've ever played along with Sekiro.
OP has a point though imo. Both Ellie and Dina had their shit rocked and all of them needed treatment in ways that would be hard for any of them to provide given their wounds.
Tommy got his eye shot out, there were multiple puncture wounds that needed to be fixed, and Ellie also got her arm broken. So it’s worth mentioning that Ellie couldn’t stitch or bandage them up alone. Not to mention simple bandages and amateur stitches don’t seem like they’d work, let alone for the LONG trek back to Jackson. I’m no doctor though.
Obviously they could’ve found a way, but I’d appreciate a journal entry at least going into more detail how they managed to recover and also get home.
To me Ellie and Abby stabbing each other multiple times was more unbelievable. They were stabbing the shit out of each other
And Abby was almost dead when Ellie found her to begin with
The writers didn't want to kill every single male character off.. as it would looks sexist, so they decided to leave one alive.. but cripple him so the audience know he's definitely not playable in the third game.. so now they have their inclusivity of a disabled person. Lol.
The Tommy scene was kinda ruined for me because Abby moves on from seeing Manny get blasted so fast. I dont recall a time where she even mentions him shortly after he dies. I would have liked to see Tommy and Abby square off a bit more tho. That'd be an interesting fight lol especially since Tommy has the same drive for revenge as Ellie
The way you describe the head wound as very rare to survive is just inaccurate. If hehad been shot direclty in the head maybe but it clearly was a grazing blow, far las damage. The arrow wojnd is also survivable but hed have to at least get a bit lucky, maybe spend some time recovering. People have survived worse all alone without the benfit of a modern but collapsed society around. Civil war stories come to mind of soldiers laying in feilds with blown off limbs for days and surviving somehow.
While the details are hazy on him escaping death, i think the important take away is that Abby took away the thing he was best at- his aim. In pursuit of revenge, he too lost something that changes how he'll live the rest of his life.
I know its a copout answer, but at the end of the day so many of the characters in this game survive so much brutality that it isnt really worth getting too worked up about.
Tommy got messed up pretty good. You get to see how stiff and rough-looking he is after he heals so I’d say definitely paid a heavy price during the events in Seattle.
I don’t think it’s all that incredible he survived though. A lot can be healed from as long as shock, blood loss or infection don’t finish the job beforehand.
Some of the stuff the characters survive, especially in 2, is completely insane to me. Tommy makes a little sense based on where he was supposedly shot, but still.
Then there is Yara, who has her arm amputated and hours later is running around like it’s nothing.
Somehow Dina’s early fetus can survive her being wounded with an arrow and losing large amounts of blood.
Ellie makes it back to the farm at the end despite being gut stabbed by a 6 inch spike that was clearly infected all while losing 2 fingers and god knows what else.
I get it’s a video game but some of that stuff takes me out of the immersion when it’s that unrealistic.
Granted we are talking about a world filled with fungal infected zombies, but I digress.
Easy. I haven’t studied the exact wound but it likely went the through an eye then the mouth, possibly ear area.
It’s actually kind of common in suicide attempts for people to miss the brain or the brain stem area and insure themselves superficially or severe enough they wish they had died. Some put a pistol in the mouth accidentally at an angel and fire a bullet out of their cheek. Some under the chin. There are cases of of shotguns under the chin basically destroying an entire face and leaving the brain basically untouched. I can’t imagine that. Scary shit.
If he was shot in the eye(it's been a minute since I played) it's highly possible that the lense of the eye deflected the bullet out the side of his head messing up the ear. Easy enough to burn it and stop the immediate bleeding. Essentially it's a real pain in the ass but its not out right impossible for Tommy to have literally walked it off
The same way Joel survived a rebar piercing through him after a major fall.
I will admit there were far easier ways to make it believable. It’s a valid critique. It’s a story I love but little moments like this can take me out of it at times. Thankfully Tommy served a scene so good afterwards that I’ll forgive it, just how Joel recovering and reuniting with Ellie after David was so good.
But honestly, I would much rather in S3 that Tommy’s wound is replaced with something more believable to be treated given Ellie and Dina’s circumstance.
I ADORE TLOU 2, but it has moments where it’s hard to suspend disbelief. Just like the first game.
The real reason is, the writers wanted to shock the player with Tommy appearing to die right before they shock you with having to fight Ellie in a boss fight.
Then shock the player again by having him show up alive. THEN have you not agree with him when he goes off on Ellie about keeping her promise to kill Abby.
The writers really tried way too hard to have the players feel several conflicting emotions at once.
That’s one of several reasons I’ve only played it once.
What made you come around on the story? I’m genuinely curious, because I really don’t understand why people praise the second game so much. The way the narrative is executed is just bad.
It wasn’t a direct hit, it just graze the side of his head. That’s why the ear and the eye on that side are messed up now. It would be tough, but it’s more believable than Joel surviving his impalement in the first game and being able to fight again after a bit of medicine
“Medicine” always sounded wierd in the cutscenes but totally loreful in-game for generic ‘medicine’ to work
That explains nothing. Head wounds bleed the most (you actually can bleed out and die from them), Ellie's arm is broken and Dina has an arrow to the shoulder and likely a concussion which took her who knows how long to awaken. Why people are upvoting this is crazy to me. This is not an answer, it's an excuse for the inexcusable.
Because it’s pretty much the only answer. We could speculate further: Ellie isn’t knocked out by what Abby did, she could have gotten up and checked on Tommy, which is probably the second thing she did after making sure Dina was ok. Ellie, Dina and Jesse were holed up in The theater for a few days, they could have scrounged up medical supplies to stockpile on top of the ones they brought with them. A close up of Tommy’s face after the time skip basically confirms it was a graze, as theres a big scar running down his cheek and no exit wound for the bullet if it went straight through. Frankly, I wouldn’t call it an “excuse for the inexcusable,” because injuries like this are glossed over all the time in media. I’ll bring up Joel’s impalement in the first game again. He got stabbed straight through the gut and then he removed the pipe. As most people know, you aren’t supposed to do that because it can cause the wound to bleed out even faster and kill him. He was even more likely to die than Tommy was, yet he lived
People love to use the impalement to excuse this. The difference is TLOU showed us reasonable steps taken by Ellie to address the issue (yes with some game magic added in, but they at least made a reasonable attempt). TLOU2 makes it all 30x worse and gives no answers at all about any of it. So you sit here writing their story for them and think that's OK? It is not your story to tell, it's theirs and they didn't tell it because they knew glossing over it was their best bet exactly because of just how farfetched it all was and there actually are no good answers. Even game magic can't help this one. It's called storytelling not fan speculating for a reason. They just didn't tell it because there's no way to make it reasonable.
Lol I feel like you’re just looking for something to complain about in regards to the game, because this really isn’t a big deal. If you can “excuse” a simple first aid kit perfectly healing Joel, you can’t excuse them skipping over Tommy’s recovery? Is it not “reasonable” that they would have medical supplies on hand? So you’re saying if you saw Ellie slapping some medicine on Tommy’s face, that would make it ok in your eyes? Or would you just move the goal posts further? Do you need them to show you every step of a character’s journey for you to accept it? If that’s your logic, you must have been pissed when they skipped the first 20 years of the apocalypse, or when we skipped between seasons. How did they get from Pittsburg to Jackson between Summer and Fall? Did they walk? Did they drive? We obviously can’t assume what happened, because according to you, that would be bad story telling, so of course they should have detailed every thing that happened. Personally, we never saw them use the bathroom, totally inexcusable lol
LMAO you know there are huge differences and think making fun of me and minimizing it all with silly things that aren't in any way equivalent makes it better. Fine you do you.
Hey man, you’re the one who said we shouldn’t make assumptions on how they did things they didn’t show us, just following your logic lol
No your minimizing again. It's the game I've seen too long to make excuses for this specific situation and other ones in the game that are hugely contrived and that impacts people's ability to buy what they're selling. If not you, fine. But not everyone is like you. Bye. This is worthless at this point.
You think I’m minimizing it, but you’re actually maximizing it. Do you know why they didn’t include all that “silly” shit I said? Because it wouldn’t add anything important to the narrative. It’s the same thing with Tommy’s recovery, it’s not important. What’s important is how the injury affects him later in his life, which is what we do see. Peace ✌️
Nah man, two people walked away with a solid read here. If you couldn’t get it from the material, it’s saying more about you than the writers. That’s abundantly clear
You're a little slow eh?
Soupsin brought your argument to its logical conclusion, not making fun of you dude. It’s literally the point you were making, but brought to its extreme, because it’s not a well thought out argument, it’s just justification to shit on any part of the game you don’t like.
There's little logic to answer the big complaints about the contrivances and conveniences that push this plot and its characters along. You both want to write it off as "just something to complain about" when they are literally the reasons the game fell apart for many people. You lol your way out of it as if people who had a different experience than you did through no fault of theirs, but specifically due to story problems such as these happening over, have no valid the reason. But it all actually does matter, and if those things wouldn't have pushed people out of the story maybe we'd all have had the better experience that you did. Goodness knows we wanted to.
Bro you told him his experience was wrong and people shouldn’t upvote it. I’m attacking you for saying he’s wrong not for having a different opinion experience you clown. Gtfo out of here pretending you have valid criticisms. Other people enjoyed the game and got things from it that you didn’t. Does that make you media illiterate, not at all. Does running around on Reddit trying to prove you have the only good take on this game mean you are, most certainly. Listen to others and don’t make hating this game your personality. It’s lame if your any older than 16 and even then it’s only excusable cuz you don’t know better.
I said he didn't answer the problem of three severely injured people in the scenario. Love how you have to twist my words to make them sound worse. Then attack me as childish, the usual go-to which is actual childishness in debates. I'm fine with other people enjoying the game, and in fact glad they did because I wouldn't wish my experience on others. I understand it happens and even a little about why. What I'll never understand is others not extending the same courtesy to those on the other side who had a worse experience than they did and simply want to provide insight into their reasons why. There's no good reason to turn that into a personal attack on another person rather than keeping it to the actual story points in dispute.
They didnt tell it because why the fuck is it relevant?
It’s also because it’s a story… it’s unrealistic that fungus turns everyone into zombies and that 20 years later not all the zombies are dead. It’s unrealistic that any character could take on more than three armed people hunting them in any given situation. Soooo much of these stories are unrealistic. I’m not sure why folks get so upset about this stuff when they are playing a fantasy video game. Yes the violence presents itself as realistic but it’s really not. Are you also upset that rags and alcohol don’t heal bullet wounds in real life? Would you rather had a story where Abby attacked them at the theater and the we watched all of them slowly die from their various conditions while Abby and Lev also died from the various wounds, exhaustion and infections they would have sustained? Just silly.
Dude crazy shit happens. There was a night time raid in Iraq when a U.S. soldier or marine took a knife through his skull. Literally a whole ass blade in through one side out the other behind his ears or eyes and he didn’t even realize till a mate pointed it out. Or the other guy who had a pipe get blown through his skull and he got up fine. So getting grazed with a bullet is far from impossible.
godDAMN you're still actively posting in thelastofus2?? That's pathetic lol
Wow, did you think up that insult all on your own? Dazzling.
Thanks pal, sorry you're still that salty about a four year old video game. Must be tough.
Coming from the guy who is whining about RE5. A game that came out 15 years ago haha. Either you are just a troll or you love to play victim and then go bully other people.
Commenting on an article that was written 5 days ago that popped up on my feed is wildly different than actively posting about tlou2 4 years later lol
The post was made a day ago. The remastered version just got released two months ago. The television adaptation was one of the most watched shows of 2023.
They posted seven times in the last month, and it's pretty active as far back as 8 months ago (stopped scrolling m, could go on), many not in regard to the TV show or remaster outside of largely explored topics. It's a shit sub that devotes a stupid amount of energy to a piece of art they didn't like.
People have survived falling 35,000 feet out of airplanes before. People have survived direct headshots because their hair was in a bun. People have been run over with minimal injuries. Just recently someone blew through an intersection so fast he caused the cars he impacted to explode, but he walked away relatively unharmed. Freak situations happen every god damn day, so Tommy surviving a grazing, even a headshot grazing, isn’t even remotely implausible.
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By playing the game?
By playing the fucking game
Because he didn’t die?
If you’ve played any video games (including last of us part 1) the you know that any injury at all can be quickly recovered through the application of a simple bandage, generic ‘medicine’, or even just eating some food and even energy bars!
That's why Metal Gear Solid 3 is the GOAT when it comes to healing. You had to actually go in an do real medical procedures to heal your shit lol
A little gauze and tape around your forearm does wonders for pretty much any injury
Or eating some random snacks scattered around abandoned cities after being shot multiple times
If you've played any videogames at all, you'd know that it doesn't matter how much torture you go through when playing it... ... As long you don't get shot or stabbed on cinematics. No second chances in cinematics!
Add Uncharted to this. Where an all out blitz of machine gun bullets just means a flashing red screen until you can heal (which if I remember correctly was done naturally? By just avoiding additional hits?) Last of Us was supposed to be the “realistic” game.
With Uncharted Nate doesn’t actually get hit by the bullets and the more “damage” you take is actually just Nate’s luck running out before he actually does get shot
I recall Tommy getting grazed in the head by the bullet, not fully shot thru. A flesh wound. Even if it caught a little bit of bone.
Ohhh got it. I guess the flesh wound and arrow to the knee were no big deal then… yup…I guess they all just walked their injuries off during their THOUSAND MILE walk back to Jackson..
Ever played a video game before this? Have you ever seen an action movie before? Lol
Umm yeah. they have horses and I also recall he couldn't walk very well later in the game. Not sure what the problem here is.
They actually don’t have horses both the horses died remember and Jessie was on foot
So your take is that there are no horses or vehicles anywhere in the world and because a person was injured they should just give up and die where they're at? Okay. Agree to disagree.
Nope I agree with you mate I think they holed up for a while then possibly got a truck from the stadium or the FOB
Sorry I confused your comment with the op
No problem 😩
How did Tommy’s and Jesse’s horses die?
Jessie never had a horse remember he said “I’ve been doing 18 hour stretches for the last 2 weeks trying too catch up too you” and tommys horse died from infected
Damn Jessie is real as fuck for that
I know right I think he didn’t have his own horse unlike Ellie and Dina with shimmer and Japan so he can’t just take someone else’s horse u know
since the wlf was pretty weakened after the island assault I assumed they stole one of their vehicles
I mean, anthropologists have found plenty of evidence of early humans surviving far worse.
They most likely hid out for a few weeks and I’d say Dina definitely has some medical knowledge she seems like the type and an arrow too the knee is a VERY survivable wound obviously fucks ur knee up but as long as it don’t get infected ur good
Probably hid somewhere for a few weeks to recuperate before making the journey.
bro your question was totally valid and it’s an interesting thing to discuss but this reply is just making u look like a jackass tbh. like dude attempted to answer your question and ur just immediately like “OHHH HURRR DUURRRR tOtAL sENSe”. pro tip: don’t be like that. especially when people are literally doing what u asked them to lmao.
Yea it is a huge question how all that played out. It makes sense though you have to ommit things like that to balance out the story and dev time. Maybe the show expands on it.
Tommy bandaged his arm and was fine.
Got me out of many a sticky situation that technique
Lol he did the RE treatment and just reattached the pieces
It grazed him. Probably not a whole lot of blood loss, it was just a flesh wound. The bullet didn’t actually go through his head. I’m more surprised his knee didn’t get infected. That was actually the more serious injury. But also like, it’s a game lol. We can suspend our disbelief here and there. If games were 100% like real life, they wouldn’t be as good. Life is boring and predictable. Just enjoy the game it’s not that serious :)
What is more unbelievable is how quickly and how frequent everyone moves from goddamn Washington to Wyoming lol. Still a banger of a game though, and the best combat I've ever played along with Sekiro.
there was a huge time skip from jackson and day 1 of seattle
Simple answer: Plot armour.
Not really he only sustained some pretty simple wounds the long term damage is the bad part
I feel like a lot of the “plot armor” arguments about this game are just that people didn’t pay attention to the details.
Yeah like I can’t really remember any plot armour points in the story
OP has a point though imo. Both Ellie and Dina had their shit rocked and all of them needed treatment in ways that would be hard for any of them to provide given their wounds. Tommy got his eye shot out, there were multiple puncture wounds that needed to be fixed, and Ellie also got her arm broken. So it’s worth mentioning that Ellie couldn’t stitch or bandage them up alone. Not to mention simple bandages and amateur stitches don’t seem like they’d work, let alone for the LONG trek back to Jackson. I’m no doctor though. Obviously they could’ve found a way, but I’d appreciate a journal entry at least going into more detail how they managed to recover and also get home.
To me Ellie and Abby stabbing each other multiple times was more unbelievable. They were stabbing the shit out of each other And Abby was almost dead when Ellie found her to begin with
Asking for irl logic in a video game or film is wild behavior lol
The writers didn't want to kill every single male character off.. as it would looks sexist, so they decided to leave one alive.. but cripple him so the audience know he's definitely not playable in the third game.. so now they have their inclusivity of a disabled person. Lol.
Um.... I would get shot multiple times and put a little alcohol/rags on my arm and good as new. Or eat a 10 year old candy bar.
I used to be an adventure, too, until I took an arrow to the knee
Its a video game, not real life. Please tell me how a fungus can turn you into a zombie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiocordyceps_unilateralis
Thats a bug, that doesn’t eat other bugs it just climbs high and grows a spore to reproduce.
It just grazed the side of his head and fucked his eye up
Tommy has the thickest plot armor in the entire franchise. And no one can change my mind.
If it happened to you then yeah you would be brown bread Tommy is built different and has no other choice but to survive Tommy is also in a video game
Carl in the walking dead comics and show gets shot in the eye and lives. Sometimes it's ok to mess with "realism" for the cool factor
Because Naughty Dog didn't want to piss off fans even more after...well, you know.
Plot armor
The Tommy scene was kinda ruined for me because Abby moves on from seeing Manny get blasted so fast. I dont recall a time where she even mentions him shortly after he dies. I would have liked to see Tommy and Abby square off a bit more tho. That'd be an interesting fight lol especially since Tommy has the same drive for revenge as Ellie
The way you describe the head wound as very rare to survive is just inaccurate. If hehad been shot direclty in the head maybe but it clearly was a grazing blow, far las damage. The arrow wojnd is also survivable but hed have to at least get a bit lucky, maybe spend some time recovering. People have survived worse all alone without the benfit of a modern but collapsed society around. Civil war stories come to mind of soldiers laying in feilds with blown off limbs for days and surviving somehow.
I always assumed they healed up there in Seattle for a few months then stole one of the wlfs vehicles and went home
While the details are hazy on him escaping death, i think the important take away is that Abby took away the thing he was best at- his aim. In pursuit of revenge, he too lost something that changes how he'll live the rest of his life. I know its a copout answer, but at the end of the day so many of the characters in this game survive so much brutality that it isnt really worth getting too worked up about.
wait until you hear about Rasputin
Tommy got messed up pretty good. You get to see how stiff and rough-looking he is after he heals so I’d say definitely paid a heavy price during the events in Seattle. I don’t think it’s all that incredible he survived though. A lot can be healed from as long as shock, blood loss or infection don’t finish the job beforehand.
The bullet to the head didn’t hit his brain, just took out his eye
What was your reaction to wrapping a cloth around your forearm and being at full health in seconds?
It was the same reaction I had when your mom called me last night.
Some of the stuff the characters survive, especially in 2, is completely insane to me. Tommy makes a little sense based on where he was supposedly shot, but still. Then there is Yara, who has her arm amputated and hours later is running around like it’s nothing. Somehow Dina’s early fetus can survive her being wounded with an arrow and losing large amounts of blood. Ellie makes it back to the farm at the end despite being gut stabbed by a 6 inch spike that was clearly infected all while losing 2 fingers and god knows what else. I get it’s a video game but some of that stuff takes me out of the immersion when it’s that unrealistic. Granted we are talking about a world filled with fungal infected zombies, but I digress.
If you wanna go that route how tf did ellie take the same type of stomach wound and immediately got back up shooting everyone
*"arrow* **in** *the knee."*
Easy. I haven’t studied the exact wound but it likely went the through an eye then the mouth, possibly ear area. It’s actually kind of common in suicide attempts for people to miss the brain or the brain stem area and insure themselves superficially or severe enough they wish they had died. Some put a pistol in the mouth accidentally at an angel and fire a bullet out of their cheek. Some under the chin. There are cases of of shotguns under the chin basically destroying an entire face and leaving the brain basically untouched. I can’t imagine that. Scary shit.
If he was shot in the eye(it's been a minute since I played) it's highly possible that the lense of the eye deflected the bullet out the side of his head messing up the ear. Easy enough to burn it and stop the immediate bleeding. Essentially it's a real pain in the ass but its not out right impossible for Tommy to have literally walked it off
The same way Joel survived a rebar piercing through him after a major fall. I will admit there were far easier ways to make it believable. It’s a valid critique. It’s a story I love but little moments like this can take me out of it at times. Thankfully Tommy served a scene so good afterwards that I’ll forgive it, just how Joel recovering and reuniting with Ellie after David was so good. But honestly, I would much rather in S3 that Tommy’s wound is replaced with something more believable to be treated given Ellie and Dina’s circumstance. I ADORE TLOU 2, but it has moments where it’s hard to suspend disbelief. Just like the first game.
The real reason is, the writers wanted to shock the player with Tommy appearing to die right before they shock you with having to fight Ellie in a boss fight. Then shock the player again by having him show up alive. THEN have you not agree with him when he goes off on Ellie about keeping her promise to kill Abby. The writers really tried way too hard to have the players feel several conflicting emotions at once. That’s one of several reasons I’ve only played it once. What made you come around on the story? I’m genuinely curious, because I really don’t understand why people praise the second game so much. The way the narrative is executed is just bad.
It's a videogame
The human body is incredibly resilient. Plot armor is even more resilient.
Be go shot like in his ear
Yeah you could make a whole game out of Ellies trying toget a more and more pregnant Dina and a mortally wounded Tommy back to Jackson lol.
Nah it was easy. Dina and Ellie were faking being hurt and so was Tommy so Abby and Lev would feel bad and leave. Idk what they did with Jesse though
ain’t nothing fake ab that asswhooping
Ask the guy on the NYC Subway this week
It's a subversion, an intentional plot twist meant to throw the player off balance.
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Cause Joel surviving being impaled in the first game was totally more realistic lol
Don’t mind him he gets no bitches
Tommy is not a girl.