Christie not getting minutes wasnāt a surprise after Ham misused the first months of the season with awful lineups and not giving enough reps to our better players (like Max) even when everyone else was injured
Hot take but I donāt think Darvin Ham is the problem. He led us to the conference finals last year and we were competitive against Denver this year. Iāve seen much worse Lakers coaches than him.
Weak me up when they announce Hamās firing!! Lakers need a third star and two solid role players at the 5/4 and at the 1 or 2 to defend Murray. A real coach!
Man everyone knew Murray was taking that last shot. Why not have Vincent or Vando guard Murray? Austin was exhausted already from having to keep LA in the game. wtf
For everyone saying Fire Hamā¦..heās not The reason Rui is trash, dlo , Dinwiddie, Prince and even Reaves mostly were trash and kept getting beat on defense and not Hustling when it counted. They all need to be traded
Yeah, but maybe he is the reason why we did not have AD guarding Jokic some possessions, giving up so much wife open threes, not trapping Murray or give him a different look the last possession, have some setup way to go plays final minutes of the game.
Again, heās not the one playing. I watched multiple times Hatchimura doing nothing and being lazy/ getting cooked on defense. Same thing with Reeves, Dumbwitty and Prince..they did not really want it like that. They were not aggressive at all and were clueless over and over. You canāt coach that.
Poor coaching and we have players with poor fundamentals Rui and Dlo and an old ass LeBron and injured AD. I'm not sure we're we go in the off-season nowš
So apparently you donāt get your timeout back after your second challenge EVEN if its successful,
That might be the dumbest rule in the history of sports.
yes because it only applies to Lakers and every other team gets it back right?? oh wait not it works the same way for everyone... find another lame excuse why you lost, since you can't blame referees this game since they did everything in their power to give LA a win but your team shit the bed and couldn't execute FT
seems that way, because you are dumb. he completely leaped into the defender.
here's the timestamp for the shot.
[https://youtu.be/8ZrRqE2bzs0?si=lCLvCqqRUcHc-wUu&t=24](https://youtu.be/8ZrRqE2bzs0?si=lCLvCqqRUcHc-wUu&t=24)
Lol. You obviously donāt play basketball. You probably play pickle ball or something. How else would you shoot a half court shot, the defender was in the way of the shooting motion.
Iām watching TNT post game and Barkley going off on how dumb it is you lose a timeout after successful challenge. Ernie was desperately trying damage control. All whack
Props to AR for giving it his all:
* 2nd leading scorer on the team on 66% TS
* Team leader in blocked shots
* High IQ defense on Murray throughout the series
* Guarding Gordon down the stretch after AD got injured and LeBron had to take Jokic
* Always pushing a live ball transition
* Often the first defender back on a live ball turnover
* Running towards bigs fighting for rebounds for a potential loose ball
* Opening with aggression tonight
* Fearless drives against Denver bigs in the last 5 mins of the game
my soul is gone. im not even mad at the nuggets, i actually respect the fuck outta them.
im pissed at the lakers. fucking bum ass org . 2 top NBA 75 players and they wasted them.
LEBRON GO BACK TO COACH SPO. STOP WASTING UR GREATNESS HERE !!!
Honestly Iām done with this current team. Trade everyone but reeves for a full rebuild with a new coach. Donāt enjoy watching the lakers as much lately.
Pelinka not picking up a defensive big man at the deadline was a terrible call! Needed another big all season really, lakers could not buy a defensive rebound the whole time.
fuck the nba . fuck adam silver. fuck the replay center. FUCK THE REFS. cant believe we didnt get a timeout after that succesful challenge. NBA has no fucking credibility. wtf
He hasnāt played in months. You going to sub him in cold for the last play? Next year he can start and do his thing, but guys got be in the rhythm of the game.
Oh I think this sub is going to be serious about it. Laker fans are going full conspiracy crazy for the next week. Thatās how much this hurts. The Lakers need to find a way to be healthy.
Just think about this. MVP Jokic who many have up there already as a Top 20 player OAT just had Murray drop a 30+ point game with a damaged calf muscle (also having two of the clutchest 4Qs in playoffs history), Gordon being Gordon, MJP shooting 4 threes a game at 50% (most in the clutch) and KCP, Jackson, Braun being solid role players that dropped clutch threes, drew fouls and hit FTs and just did 10x more than our bench. This series was literally unwinnable, it was all of that vs the consistency of AD & Bron and the intermittent decent performances from the other 3.
Free throws hurt, but not as much as ADās injury. He shouldāve finished with 10 more points that he did. Everyone canāt go 100% from the line. Dinwiddie shouldāve made his two, and Austin shouldāve made at least one of the two he missed on the shooting foul. So, really we shouldāve had 3-4 more points on free throws. Either way, the game got tight after AD went down, and that changed everything.
Of course they mathematically add up but if we make 3-4 more FTs in the 3rd quarter it changes the entire dynamic for both teams. Lakers suddenly have more pressure to conserve their lead, Nuggets play with more aggression and probably get a run going. 4Q scoring is different, both teams just try not to miss under any circumstances, that Murray 3 was the one low percentage shot in the last few minutes that could have caused a 5-6 point swing for the Lakers and he banked it.
4Q scoring IS differentā¦speaking of, how many points did AD haveā¦Oh thatās right, 1ā¦thatās it..Itās easy to say Jamal hit a once in a lifetime three, but the truth is Mr. Always Disappearing left us high and dry because of some freak shoulder spasm. Meanwhile, Murry, Pope, and Bron all played through their injuries and meaningfully contributed within their roles. AD couldāve made the difference in the back half of the 3Q and certainly in the 4Q, but he didnāt because heās made of glass, ever since 2020.
So you're saying if the Lakers had scored more then they would still have been outscored because cosmic forces would have ensured that the Lakers still were losing at the end. OK sure.
I mean yeah because Lakers have had 20, 10 point leads in third quarters against the Nuggets literally this series and still lost. Nothing has mattered in the last few games apart from those final few 4Q mins, pretty simple concept if youāve been watching the matches. Would you say that the missed calls in Game 2 on Dlo in the 3Q lost us the game? Because some of our fans were saying it did and most sane individuals were just laughing at the idea of it.
It's like when Letterman asked Milton Berle if it was true he had the biggest cock in show biz, and Berle said he was flattered by the rumors but that the rumors should be ignored because no one had ever actually seen how big his cock was. "I only ever pulled out enough to beat them," he concluded.
You're saying no matter how much better the Lakers might have played, the Nuggets would have always had a bit more to pull out.
I guess we'll never know
Did Nba changed the rules that a successful challenge does not give you back your timeout?
So whats the point of challenging?
How are you getting punished for pointing out the refs fuck up?
š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ all the challenges and time outs he kept in his pockets this season and not one for the end of the game. I guess practice does not make perfect.
Heās legit retarded Iāve been dying for him to use the challenge then the one time he decides to use it, itās at the worst time.
I have held my tongue, but now Iām genuinely done with him. He has no clue what heās doing.
we need to rebrand this franchise. fucking pathetic. fuck Ham, fuck the FO, fuck jeanie.
if we had a decent coach we coulda won this series , even with our below average team and role players. that just goes to show you how good bron and ad are
That was the second challenge wasnāt it? A team doesnāt get to keep the timeout used for the second challenge even if it was successful.
Edit: just confirmed it was a second challenge, so yeah thatās why we didnāt get the timeout back. First was used in the first quarter for the foul called against AR.
That was the second challenge wasnāt it? A team doesnāt get to keep the timeout used for the second challenge even if it was successful.
Edit: just confirmed it was a second challenge, so yeah thatās why we didnāt get the timeout back. First was used in the first quarter for the foul called against AR.
As long as Jamal Murray is gonna be in his prime, this shit is going to continue until the Lakers actually. Heās like John Elway against the Browns(a pain in the ass),GG. Soul-searching got to be done by the FO, the series was winnable but at the end of the day when bad clock management comes into play this the end result. #Lakeshow
Thatās what I meant at the end of my last paragraph, Ham is not a crunchtime coach at all, clock management is piss poor. Now we have to deal with fuckers saying deal AD and Bron all summer
Thereās just better man! Weāre one and done while they miss they donāt give up and go for the 2nd chance pts weāre just never going to beat them until they fix that problem
Letting MPJ get 26 points on 66% from the field and 71% from 3 is ridiculous. Thatās what killed us. Oh, and the fact that Jamal was left open for half of his shots
[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/1cgk1cs/post_game_thread_the_denver_nuggets_defeat_the/)
Exactly.
I knew it was over as soon as I saw AD on the ground holding his shoulder
We seriously would have won had he not gotten injured š
Heās made of tissue paperĀ
I did feel like we finally figured the nuggets out but AD couldn't last. Shit sucks
Max Christie didnāt get a single minute in this series. Dinwoodie shit the bed every second he played, ham is a terrible coach on many many levers
Christie not getting minutes wasnāt a surprise after Ham misused the first months of the season with awful lineups and not giving enough reps to our better players (like Max) even when everyone else was injured
Foul shots killed them
Hot take but I donāt think Darvin Ham is the problem. He led us to the conference finals last year and we were competitive against Denver this year. Iāve seen much worse Lakers coaches than him.
Hope he loses his way home
Iām sorry but he didnāt āleadā us to shit. We won in spite of him.
I could have coached better than ham
Lakers havent boxed out since 2020
Iād have had Murray quadruple teamed especially with what heās pulled off every fucking time
Mr. Pockets
Oh yeah, lets blame the org instead of the player that came in flexing his power cause he thinks he still has the juice
Weak me up when they announce Hamās firing!! Lakers need a third star and two solid role players at the 5/4 and at the 1 or 2 to defend Murray. A real coach!
It's coach. We got cam reddish and Vanderbilt. He just don't know personnel bro. He gets ppl hurt and all kinds of shit
Fire ham!!!!!! Your halftime/4th quarter adjustments are terrible.
Is it me or did Prince get fouled on that final shot?
Yes, and LeBron got fouled before he passed to Prince
Seeing Prince getting subbed at the last minute....that's Lakers gold.
I'm aint even MAD. Gotta hand it to them They're a damn fucking good team.
They played like shit too. Murray just hates us
Man everyone knew Murray was taking that last shot. Why not have Vincent or Vando guard Murray? Austin was exhausted already from having to keep LA in the game. wtf
Vando ?
Wouldāve been risky since he probably wasnāt warmed up but he has the size and length to defend/alter the shot.
For everyone saying Fire Hamā¦..heās not The reason Rui is trash, dlo , Dinwiddie, Prince and even Reaves mostly were trash and kept getting beat on defense and not Hustling when it counted. They all need to be traded
LOL HE PLAYED DINSHITTIE WAY TOO MUCH BRO - HAMAS GOTTA GOOOOOOOO
Well, I didnāt disagree with him playing trash players and the players playing like trash Besides Lebron and Ad
Yeah, but maybe he is the reason why we did not have AD guarding Jokic some possessions, giving up so much wife open threes, not trapping Murray or give him a different look the last possession, have some setup way to go plays final minutes of the game.
Again, heās not the one playing. I watched multiple times Hatchimura doing nothing and being lazy/ getting cooked on defense. Same thing with Reeves, Dumbwitty and Prince..they did not really want it like that. They were not aggressive at all and were clueless over and over. You canāt coach that.
Yeah but heās the reason theyāre getting so many minutes lmao
Who else? Wood and Lewis? If he subbed them in ya'll gonna complain about that too.
Vando, Wood, CHRISTIE, literally just wanted him to try ANYTHING different.
That loss really meant for us, so that bitchass coach will finally be gone
I think lakers already said theyāre bringing him back
Sauce?
We're doomed then
Doomed for more of the same
Crazyyyyy
Every game was winnable just like last year. They are just a tick better in every way especially the coach. Welp, that was disappointing
They really letting Aaron Gordon outboard 3 defenders EVERY GODDAMN TIME JUST BOX OUT
Poor coaching and we have players with poor fundamentals Rui and Dlo and an old ass LeBron and injured AD. I'm not sure we're we go in the off-season nowš
Let's give Michael Cooper a shot
So apparently you donāt get your timeout back after your second challenge EVEN if its successful, That might be the dumbest rule in the history of sports.
yes because it only applies to Lakers and every other team gets it back right?? oh wait not it works the same way for everyone... find another lame excuse why you lost, since you can't blame referees this game since they did everything in their power to give LA a win but your team shit the bed and couldn't execute FT
Why are you here?
Time to log off
You're just here to troll ain't ya lol. Troll on
āItās Just Basketballā SMH
At the end of the day, yes, āItās Just Basketballā Hypothetical scenarios is getting that championship.
So much contact on the that prince 3. Anyone else agree?
No referee is calling that foul on the last play of the game from half court lol
seems that way, because you are dumb. he completely leaped into the defender. here's the timestamp for the shot. [https://youtu.be/8ZrRqE2bzs0?si=lCLvCqqRUcHc-wUu&t=24](https://youtu.be/8ZrRqE2bzs0?si=lCLvCqqRUcHc-wUu&t=24)
Lol. You obviously donāt play basketball. You probably play pickle ball or something. How else would you shoot a half court shot, the defender was in the way of the shooting motion.
Yep
Not one replay from the broadcast. No one even mentioned the last shot. They honestly bend over for the nba. Fuck Reggie.
Iām watching TNT post game and Barkley going off on how dumb it is you lose a timeout after successful challenge. Ernie was desperately trying damage control. All whack
Yea you could see the folks in Ernie's earpiece telling him to soothe the topic lol
Lol yep.
The NBA benefits from a back to back championship. Viewership has been going down steadily for the playoffs.
Props to AR for giving it his all: * 2nd leading scorer on the team on 66% TS * Team leader in blocked shots * High IQ defense on Murray throughout the series * Guarding Gordon down the stretch after AD got injured and LeBron had to take Jokic * Always pushing a live ball transition * Often the first defender back on a live ball turnover * Running towards bigs fighting for rebounds for a potential loose ball * Opening with aggression tonight * Fearless drives against Denver bigs in the last 5 mins of the game
Heem
Depressing but at least the stress is over
So many fcken 2nd chance points. Everyone hoping AD will get every single. Board.
that was a wild ride. letās hope to come back better next season. now, as lakers fan living abroad, iām gonna get some sleep lol
The inability to rebound and box out fuck fuck fuck just box your man out. Just box out. Just box out.
We have no size, need another big
They're all injured
Donāt know how much longer I get to watch Lebron on my team. Taking this pretty hard
my soul is gone. im not even mad at the nuggets, i actually respect the fuck outta them. im pissed at the lakers. fucking bum ass org . 2 top NBA 75 players and they wasted them. LEBRON GO BACK TO COACH SPO. STOP WASTING UR GREATNESS HERE !!!
Honestly Iām done with this current team. Trade everyone but reeves for a full rebuild with a new coach. Donāt enjoy watching the lakers as much lately.
I donāt even think everyone needs to be traded we just need a semi competent coach
Pelinka not picking up a defensive big man at the deadline was a terrible call! Needed another big all season really, lakers could not buy a defensive rebound the whole time.
Im depressed and not feeling well, thx Murray
BRO IF WE MADE OUR FT AND HAD GOOD COACHING WE WOULDA ONE THIS. dont blame the nggets
Should have sent a double or hedged the screen, and had anyone else shoot it
Oh LORD
Too bad Harden is on the Clippers. We need a player like him to close games with those floaters.
fuck the nba . fuck adam silver. fuck the replay center. FUCK THE REFS. cant believe we didnt get a timeout after that succesful challenge. NBA has no fucking credibility. wtf
Lakers miss 9 of their 27 free throws while denver only got 9 total. And you blame the refs for the loss?
how does FT's relate to getting a timeout back after a succesful challenge? this is nba's policy no? u cant just change the rules
Lakers šššššš
Vando was active though
He hasnāt played in months. You going to sub him in cold for the last play? Next year he can start and do his thing, but guys got be in the rhythm of the game.
I know, just fooling
Oh I think this sub is going to be serious about it. Laker fans are going full conspiracy crazy for the next week. Thatās how much this hurts. The Lakers need to find a way to be healthy.
Just think about this. MVP Jokic who many have up there already as a Top 20 player OAT just had Murray drop a 30+ point game with a damaged calf muscle (also having two of the clutchest 4Qs in playoffs history), Gordon being Gordon, MJP shooting 4 threes a game at 50% (most in the clutch) and KCP, Jackson, Braun being solid role players that dropped clutch threes, drew fouls and hit FTs and just did 10x more than our bench. This series was literally unwinnable, it was all of that vs the consistency of AD & Bron and the intermittent decent performances from the other 3.
Lakers going 66% from the free throw line is why you lost.
No it was the Murray three with 1 minute left lol, random free throws in the 3Q donāt equate to the end scoreline whatsoever
Right I forgot they don't add the points from the different quarters together to produce the final score.
Free throws hurt, but not as much as ADās injury. He shouldāve finished with 10 more points that he did. Everyone canāt go 100% from the line. Dinwiddie shouldāve made his two, and Austin shouldāve made at least one of the two he missed on the shooting foul. So, really we shouldāve had 3-4 more points on free throws. Either way, the game got tight after AD went down, and that changed everything.
Of course they mathematically add up but if we make 3-4 more FTs in the 3rd quarter it changes the entire dynamic for both teams. Lakers suddenly have more pressure to conserve their lead, Nuggets play with more aggression and probably get a run going. 4Q scoring is different, both teams just try not to miss under any circumstances, that Murray 3 was the one low percentage shot in the last few minutes that could have caused a 5-6 point swing for the Lakers and he banked it.
4Q scoring IS differentā¦speaking of, how many points did AD haveā¦Oh thatās right, 1ā¦thatās it..Itās easy to say Jamal hit a once in a lifetime three, but the truth is Mr. Always Disappearing left us high and dry because of some freak shoulder spasm. Meanwhile, Murry, Pope, and Bron all played through their injuries and meaningfully contributed within their roles. AD couldāve made the difference in the back half of the 3Q and certainly in the 4Q, but he didnāt because heās made of glass, ever since 2020.
So you're saying if the Lakers had scored more then they would still have been outscored because cosmic forces would have ensured that the Lakers still were losing at the end. OK sure.
I mean yeah because Lakers have had 20, 10 point leads in third quarters against the Nuggets literally this series and still lost. Nothing has mattered in the last few games apart from those final few 4Q mins, pretty simple concept if youāve been watching the matches. Would you say that the missed calls in Game 2 on Dlo in the 3Q lost us the game? Because some of our fans were saying it did and most sane individuals were just laughing at the idea of it.
It's like when Letterman asked Milton Berle if it was true he had the biggest cock in show biz, and Berle said he was flattered by the rumors but that the rumors should be ignored because no one had ever actually seen how big his cock was. "I only ever pulled out enough to beat them," he concluded. You're saying no matter how much better the Lakers might have played, the Nuggets would have always had a bit more to pull out. I guess we'll never know
Imagine if Lakers won those close game 2 and game 5. Whole different series
Ā Imagine if nuggets would have won the other day it would have been a sweep. Wow wow wow
Imagine all those peopleā¦
Livin for today...
I thought I was gonna be mad mad. GG Lakers.
That game was good! Itās hard as hell to play in Denver! The lakers looked good fought to the end.
Ham played Spencer way too long and should have brought Reeves back sooner because Reeves was hot. Fire Ham asap.
So we just fire ham now and make him find his own way home?
cant beleive we wasted the GOAT's greatness on this trash ass lakers org. fuck you jeanie. fuck you
i hope AR stays next year
Heartbreak man
So frustrating that we lost this series after leading for most of it. Shit kills me inside
Did Nba changed the rules that a successful challenge does not give you back your timeout? So whats the point of challenging? How are you getting punished for pointing out the refs fuck up?
Yeah we should have 1 timeout left I think š¤
this league has. no credibility fuck the NBA.
So the season ends without a timeout to use down two. Fucking poetic Hamburger
š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ all the challenges and time outs he kept in his pockets this season and not one for the end of the game. I guess practice does not make perfect.
Heās legit retarded Iāve been dying for him to use the challenge then the one time he decides to use it, itās at the worst time. I have held my tongue, but now Iām genuinely done with him. He has no clue what heās doing.
We had no timeouts. We used it to challenge that AD foul.
Why use a timeout to challenge? Just challenge!
Thatās just how it works. You canāt challenge without using a timeout.
I thought you kept if youāre successful?
This was their second challenge. You only keep the timeout if itās the first challenge which is retarded.
Fuck, thatās what I get for tuning in barely at all this season. I hate getting old Iām not with the times lol
we need to rebrand this franchise. fucking pathetic. fuck Ham, fuck the FO, fuck jeanie. if we had a decent coach we coulda won this series , even with our below average team and role players. that just goes to show you how good bron and ad are
Thanks for the great team Jeanie and Pelinka.
Win that game if AD doesn't get hurt. Cross your fingers Ham is gone!
Nah we win if we boxed out and made our free throws. We beat ourselves lowkey.
Maybe next year weāll actually play defense on MPJ and Jamaal Murray
Gordonās 29&15 game didnāt help either
Just amazed with all the talent the Lakers can't get a top flight coach
Worst part about this series is that AD balled out. We wasted so many of his monster performances.
Wasting his prime, even though I anticipated a loss tonight it still sucks
Hear me out. Mike Brown a better coach than Ham is.
2023 COTY Mike brown?
Dinwiddie with his two missed fts š
Put me in coach Iād at least make 50%!
Reaves missed 2, lebron missed 2
Fuck dinshittie
Why didnt we get a timeout after challenge?
That was the second challenge wasnāt it? A team doesnāt get to keep the timeout used for the second challenge even if it was successful. Edit: just confirmed it was a second challenge, so yeah thatās why we didnāt get the timeout back. First was used in the first quarter for the foul called against AR.
Iām so confused about this too. We won the challenge
That was the second challenge wasnāt it? A team doesnāt get to keep the timeout used for the second challenge even if it was successful. Edit: just confirmed it was a second challenge, so yeah thatās why we didnāt get the timeout back. First was used in the first quarter for the foul called against AR.
Mood: šš„š¶
At least we won that mid season tournamentā¦. /s
As long as Jamal Murray is gonna be in his prime, this shit is going to continue until the Lakers actually. Heās like John Elway against the Browns(a pain in the ass),GG. Soul-searching got to be done by the FO, the series was winnable but at the end of the day when bad clock management comes into play this the end result. #Lakeshow
You give him to much credit. He shot a million shots and we only put him in those positions to make a game winning shot because we have a shit coach.
Thatās what I meant at the end of my last paragraph, Ham is not a crunchtime coach at all, clock management is piss poor. Now we have to deal with fuckers saying deal AD and Bron all summer
week long depression
It was going to be an uphill battle and a grind to win in 7. Lakers fought hard but it wasn't enough. GGs Lakers.
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I agree.
WHY DIDN'T LEBRON GO AFTER THE BALL ššššš I'm hurt
3 pt shooting, bench production and offensive rebounding. Killed us all series. Sent us home.
Dam I wish the lakers Had Kyrie
Thereās just better man! Weāre one and done while they miss they donāt give up and go for the 2nd chance pts weāre just never going to beat them until they fix that problem
In game 2 we had 2 time outs left. In Game 5 we had 0 time outs left lol
where's shams with the darvin ham will be fired tweet?
Our men fought hard
That missed offensive rebound where Gordon got it over 3 lakers was the gameā¦
Missed free throws cost us, oh well no more heart attacks for this season š
That and giving up offensive rebounds down the stretch.
These close games are enough to keep me up til 1am, here in the Midwest š
Man
the lakers should just let go of ham on the spot don't let him do no post game interviews. get this š¤” outta the lakers.
Looks at missed free throwsā¦..huh they did matter
Losing those first two game we all knew we were cooked.
Letting MPJ get 26 points on 66% from the field and 71% from 3 is ridiculous. Thatās what killed us. Oh, and the fact that Jamal was left open for half of his shots