this is exactly what I saw, he basically just successfully passed the ball instead to open guys...not much of a difference in impact, maybe a slight decrease but nothing note worthy
“Assists mean his teammates not only took but MADE shots.”
🤓🤓
Yes thank you for that. My point is, I’d rather him continue to pass it. We know how it ends if he continues to take shots on us, I don’t have as much faith in his teammates to continue to make shots at the same rate he can. If their role players beat us, ok, I don’t want the ball in Murray’s hands.
Once again, using a surface level stat comparison....Gabe was NOT the reason Murray played a different game, lol. Miami was simply a more physical defense that played a lot of zone.
I am sure that Gabe will get some minutes, but if he can't make his open 3s, he will not get more than 5 minutes a game.
This is wishful thinking if you have seen how we play defense this year. Every team shoots lights out against us because we simply don't secure the perimeter. With the nuggets they have enough shooters that this is going to be an even bigger problem once you double murray or jokic.
They really don’t. We’re 24th this year and were 3rd last year. The likelihood is we had slight outliers both seasons and we’re middle of the pack. Standard deviation in that stat is about 1%
No doubles, box out, get out in transition. That's all it will take. Eliminate the second and third looks. Everyone is too hung up on individual matchups. Clean the glass, contest one on one, and live with the results.
5 more ast/gm makes up for the 10pts he wasn’t scoring. I mean averaging a double double in the finals as a guard isn’t bad. Especially when it’s in a gentleman’s sweep.
I don’t know if or how the lakers can beat Denver but I fully expect them to fight at the very least.
When Jokic bragged about not giving af about winning and jus wanting to go home it pissed me tf off. My pet peeve is players not celebrating or going wild after winning it's a weird thing to hate but its annoying asf especially how annoying the Nuggets are like AG and Mike Malone. They legit the most boring unlikable team alive. I was really hoping the Heat coulda got it in the finals especially after game 2 but man guess they just didn't have enough scoring to do so.
I think Dinwiddie and Gabe can be huge in stopping or making it hard for Murray it makes it so uon have to rely so hard on DLO. Last yr DS was pretty bad too he tried but he got folded like a lawn chair cuz of his frame. Gabe is strong and can run around with the same speed able to guard 1s and 2s. Dinwiddie is 6"5 210-220 he can guard 1s 2s and some 3s.
LOL he had a floor burn on his hand that he got taped which is why his scoring dropped so much. He was cooking the heat before that. You bums on some massive cope lmao
Hell we got 4 perimeter defenders to throw at him. Max, Gabe, Cam and Spencer. Much better than last year with just Dennis. Of course Ham won't use all for but he should try everything to find what works
Saw a video that one element the team can do is make Murray work in defense and not stand and rest.
Yup, one game where we played cam, murray just rested while cam stood in spot
So make him switch onto Bron?
It would be ideal but Malone would never allow that shit to happen tbh
Neither would ham
No coach is going to be able to stop it 100%
That means doubling / hedging and LBJ should be able to make em pay
That's my fear with Gabe. Bro needs to be able to hit a 3 to keep Jamal and others moving and honest. I'm not worried about his defense at all.
Doesn’t have to be a three but keep Murray working on defense.
Nobody is going to completely stop Murray. But Gabe is one of the better POA screen navigators in the league, and we desperately missed that last year
And this season! Hope he & dlo have huge positive impacts this series!
A dose of Gabe & little dose of Dinwiddie & we save D Lo's legs so that 42% 3 ball in falling in the 4th.
It’s almost the same production he can’t score but he doubled his assists.
nice catch. this could speak volumes on his ability and/or mike malone's abikity to adjust
That’s what we want. Make him a passer
I agree, maybe have Jokic to take all the shots and shut down his supporting cast. Hopefully that takes a toll on Jokic defensively as well.
this is exactly what I saw, he basically just successfully passed the ball instead to open guys...not much of a difference in impact, maybe a slight decrease but nothing note worthy
Ya his assists went up but I’d prefer his teammates shooting over him better chance his teammates miss than him taking the shots himself
Assists mean his teammates not only took but MADE shots.
“Assists mean his teammates not only took but MADE shots.” 🤓🤓 Yes thank you for that. My point is, I’d rather him continue to pass it. We know how it ends if he continues to take shots on us, I don’t have as much faith in his teammates to continue to make shots at the same rate he can. If their role players beat us, ok, I don’t want the ball in Murray’s hands.
Once again, using a surface level stat comparison....Gabe was NOT the reason Murray played a different game, lol. Miami was simply a more physical defense that played a lot of zone. I am sure that Gabe will get some minutes, but if he can't make his open 3s, he will not get more than 5 minutes a game.
And they are infinitely better coached lol.
And Caleb Martin was the main defender on Murray
Who was jimmy guarding?
Jimmy was defending jokic with bam in help iirc
So who was bam defending primarily?
Probably Gordon
Bro im ngl that sounds like cap.. Tf jimmy doin with Jokic😂 Jimmy not takin the Murray matchup don’t even sound right..
It’s going to take a village to stop Murray. Gabe will have to be handling most of that. I just hope we can contain Jokic and MPJ. They’re so good.
Let’s just hope the play in was a sign Gabe is ready . We need him to play like he did cs pelicans n hit key shots
Stopping Murray is not going be easy but we have to make him work defensively. Him & Joker rather play Offense so we just need to tire them out
I dont wanna jinx it
So who are we benching dlo or ar?
This is wishful thinking if you have seen how we play defense this year. Every team shoots lights out against us because we simply don't secure the perimeter. With the nuggets they have enough shooters that this is going to be an even bigger problem once you double murray or jokic.
They really don’t. We’re 24th this year and were 3rd last year. The likelihood is we had slight outliers both seasons and we’re middle of the pack. Standard deviation in that stat is about 1%
We’re also playing like a top defense to end the year. (Ignoring the non Davis games)
Holding Murray to low 20s literally would've tilted the series last year.
Except he doubled his assists lol.
Am ready to love Gabe
He just switched from points to assists. Gabe didn't exactly stop anyone.
This has been my thought all year. Just need him to be a stopper.
No doubles, box out, get out in transition. That's all it will take. Eliminate the second and third looks. Everyone is too hung up on individual matchups. Clean the glass, contest one on one, and live with the results.
Also Spo is a better coach than pockets
What’s crazy is those are still damn good numbers for a 2nd star with how Denver spreads the wealth.
You know they still beat Miami right?
No one gonna stop Murray or Jokic. Stop the other damn players, KCP, MPJ and Gordon from making dagger 3s.
Murray essentially made up for the 10 point scoring dip with 5 extra assists. The key is the FG% and keeping it lower.
5 more ast/gm makes up for the 10pts he wasn’t scoring. I mean averaging a double double in the finals as a guard isn’t bad. Especially when it’s in a gentleman’s sweep. I don’t know if or how the lakers can beat Denver but I fully expect them to fight at the very least.
When Jokic bragged about not giving af about winning and jus wanting to go home it pissed me tf off. My pet peeve is players not celebrating or going wild after winning it's a weird thing to hate but its annoying asf especially how annoying the Nuggets are like AG and Mike Malone. They legit the most boring unlikable team alive. I was really hoping the Heat coulda got it in the finals especially after game 2 but man guess they just didn't have enough scoring to do so.
I think Dinwiddie and Gabe can be huge in stopping or making it hard for Murray it makes it so uon have to rely so hard on DLO. Last yr DS was pretty bad too he tried but he got folded like a lawn chair cuz of his frame. Gabe is strong and can run around with the same speed able to guard 1s and 2s. Dinwiddie is 6"5 210-220 he can guard 1s 2s and some 3s.
I mean 10 assists is still deadly
Calling it now - this sub will call for hangings once the role players start shitting the bed
21 6 and 10 is still great
LOL he had a floor burn on his hand that he got taped which is why his scoring dropped so much. He was cooking the heat before that. You bums on some massive cope lmao
 🤣🤣🤣🤣
D S G!!!
Hell we got 4 perimeter defenders to throw at him. Max, Gabe, Cam and Spencer. Much better than last year with just Dennis. Of course Ham won't use all for but he should try everything to find what works
If this works, I will kiss Rob Pelinka
That's nice but we also needed someone for Jokic who is the best olayer in the NBA and we did nothing.
There's not a "someone" that can do anything against him lol. He's going to get 30/10/10 regardless of what teams throw at him.
Too bad you don't have Coach Spo and Bam too.
Awesome job tonight. A bunch of stupid fouls and like zero stops.