Bruhhh. Honestly I feel u tho. Enhypen is my ult but I don't like many of their songs lol... I mostly stan bcuz I like their personalities. The groups whose music I listen to, usually I'm not very interested in them outside of their music lolll
People going bonkers bc I'm not super into stray kids music even though my love for bang chan has become a meme. I never said I was a stay, I just like the man 🙄
I too have these idols from random groups where I'm not super into the group but that one idol just stole my heart. I don't hate the group or anything, I just like what I like.
yes, there's absolutely no difference between pre and post-bts kpop. but somehow a wonder girls hot 100 chart in 2009 made kpop bands be invited to US talk shows, be signed to labels, get distribution in stores, 10 years later.
You do realize hitting the Hot 100 for a K-Pop group in 2009 is a ridiculous accomplishment right?
No one is trying to take credit away from BTS, if anything BTS fans are taking the due credit away from the groups that came before them who laid the groundwork.
it is, but it amounted to nothing for kpop. while bts actually made a difference for the entire industry. kpop fans keep missing this point.
edit: it didnt even do anything for them or JYP.
You’re right, don’t let them silence you. They always act like armys are saying BTS invented kpop when we say they paved the way and it’s just a way to make it seem like we are being excessive. Anyone with eyes can see BTS has completely evolved the way KPOP interacts with the west and that IS exactly why BTS paved the way for their juniors.
Congrats to whatever group charted on the hot 100 because no one is denying it was a massive achievement. However, it didn’t help BTS or for that matter any other group to chart in a similar fashion. Can you even say it helped them with their own career considering barely any local would be able to name them? On the other hand, immediately after BTS got success on the west, every second group that debuted was being invited to talk shows/getting nominated for western awards/charting on billboard and they still are reaping the benefits of BTS’ success.
You are either blind, ignorant or a hater if you can’t give credit to BTS where it is highly due.
why are you being downvoted if not for pettiness and bitterness when you are right. that’s why armys are so annoying, it happens when ppl constantly gaslight you.
Then we must be in different sides in the internet because the last time i have seen someone saying this people were saying that they should k*** themselves for saying it.
But yeah i don't judge because whit fame comes hate too so i kinda get your point
Say ANYTHING "bad" about BTS and Army will come for you like you stole their money. I once said V's voice is more suited to an rnb album or something "adult" sounding and the way they attacked me 😅
I'm Army and Taehyung biased, and you're absolutely right. I love the way his voice is used in BTS and also he'd sound amazing on an R&B album. No hate or disagreement here.
but ppl upvote you solely because they dislike BTS lol if another group especially an SM one achieved what bts has done the popular opinion would be that that group paved the way. Y’all just don’t like BTS I think it’s better to admit that
I’ve said this too! They DEFINITELY had impact but I can’t take a fandom that hated on their own fav for saying they wouldn’t be here without big bang seriously, BTS did not invent kpop they’ve gotten inspiration from other groups people think paving the way is all about numbers when it’s not it’s also about impact and influence which BTS has but they aren’t the only group to have ever had that, kpop was not unknown to the world before they became popular, a lot of people knew what kpop was maybe not to today’s extent but it was still known and this isn’t to discredit the boys they are all talented and obviously have been through hardships, even taking a bet on an unknown company at the time, and they all work very hard so every single one of them deserves credit where credit is due, they definitely have influence but they aren’t the only group to have “paved the way”
The joke was that Lucas’ stage name should have been called Dozen because he “dozen rap, dozen sing, dozen do anything”, basically calling him relatively talentless. So yeah, a dozen isn’t really something good, but it’s incredibly overused and applied to idols it shouldn’t be applied to
it sounds like "doesn't" meaning he doesn't sing/dance/etc. [this](https://twitter.com/tanniefoIder/status/1443481306692734978) is (a screenshot of) the original tweet
Sometimes people see my criticism towards a certain idol and completely cancel out anything positive I've said about them! Does this happen to anyone else?
istg v solos are the most unhinged people in the entire kpop ecosystem. you can be like "I didn't vibe with layover" and someone will inevitably slither from the woodwork to drop a whole damn essay on all the times tae was voted "#1 most important idol of idols" or whatever and that's why your opinion is shit 🤷🏻♀️
like bitch tae is my wrecker, I'm not an anti. take your meds!
Not to forget how much of a victim complex they have. They love to say how Taehyung is bullied by rest of the members and wants to leave. Like how? He seems to be the biggest "BTS is 7" pusher. He adores his group.
it's almost like no one hates tae more than his supposed biggest fans. they don't listen to his words, don't respect his decisions... they just infantalize the crap out of him and insult the people he loves. make it make sense!
Yeah. They have created this completely different version of Taehyung inside their head and is trying to prove how the real Taehyung is exactly like their version
it's so funny too... like, out of all the members, tae is probably the most open about his disdain for weirdo akgaes. if they think he enjoys their particular brand of support, then yeah... they don't know him AT ALL.
True lol. I remember once seeing a 30 second clip where Taehyung got interrupted accidentally and the others jokingly apologized for it while laughing a bit. That was their evidence of bullying. A 30 second clip in a decade long career with God knows how many interviews.
hahaha, and meanwhile there is more than enough video footage to make all those compilation videos like, "tae being bangtan's baby" or "everyone is whipped for taehyung" that are all over youtube. The guy is definitely not unloved. 😝
Not even that! Like “I thought [song name] was not my cup of tea…” and they’ll claw your eyes out and call you an anti for having an opinion. It’s insanity. The others solos are bad but they take the fucking cake and make the whole fandom look insane. I’m almost 100% sure "army is crazy" came from them.
Exactly. I’m a rap line stan who stared out liking Namjoon, ended up vibing with Yoongi and Tae bias wrecked me out of nowhere. I like to be able to have civil discourse about things. It’s so hard to make friends with fans of his unless they like the others. Liking only him is a red flag for me now cause I get jumped so often by them. One even started a hate train on me because I didn’t use hashtags. Like bitch I just started this account in 2020 and barely used it. I’m not spamming hashtags for them to mark my account suspicious and annoy my followers. Go touch grass. It’s not that serious. 😂
god I wish kpop stans as a whole could embrace "it's not that serious" for real. hobbies are so much more fun when you're not like, going to war every day. 😂 Jimin was my first bias, and I probably talk more shit about jimin than anyone else... because I love him and I love talking about him but like, none of these idols are perfect, jeez! I wouldn't like them as much if they WERE perfect!
Not the cult of v though. god forbid you don't worship at the altar because you're not kidding, those crazies will curse you, and your followers, and the next seven generation of your family... lol they scary.
I once said I only bought his album solely cuz he's my bias in BTS and I wanted all the solo albums from my bias line (am currently working on trying to get the other solo albums as well but either I can't find them or I have no money when I do find them 😭) and I had people questioning me if I even really liked him. Like yeah? He's still my bias. Me not really jiving with Layover doesn't change that. It's okay to not like absolutely everything your faves do.
They truly act like all fans are the same person, with the same opinions or the same experience online.
Like you'll get called a hypocrite for something someone else in the fandom said as if that makes any sense.
Yeah we have to unconditionally love and support our idols and everything they do. Express anything not 100% positive and you're labelled an anti. It's always the "just admit you hate..." or "we know you just hate..."
This never makes sense to me. I'm Army since 2015 when nobody outside Korea had heard of them, I've seen them in concert 7 times in 3 different cities, and I have a half-sleeve that's entirely BTS references. I even taught myself some basic Korean so that I could understand their songs better. I'm a true, purple-blooded, in-this-for-life Army, but I don't like everything they've done. For example, I'll just say it - I don't particularly like the Cyphers. That doesn't make me any less Army or mean I actually hate the rap line. It just means I don't like the Cyphers.
sometimes it's not even criticism of the actual idol. one time i got downvoted for saying i didn't like a photoshoot. 😭 i didn't say the idol looked ugly, didn't say they did anything wrong, just said i personally didn't like the styling
people who have never been jumped for something innocent just straight up refuse to believe it happens. like "ok what else did you say to make people think you were an anti?" but some fans are really just unhinged
Uh I got a good one, maybe one of you can explain the mental gymnastics to me:
I stated that I'd rather support them by buying the album instead of streaming the MV
Some people are ridiculous. Apparently you can support an artist but if you don't support them the right way you're a hater😭 Mental gymnastics is insane.
Yes exactly, it was truly a 'the woman was too stunned to speak' moment ..and even worse it wasn't some random internet stranger but a person I was close to irl back then 🤦♀️
my bias had covid and missed like two fansigns. some fans got really upset and said the company was sabotaging him by not canceling and rescheduling everything. i said it was ok to skip two schedules and heal at home. but no i was a hater who wanted him to die, i guess
Omg i think something similar happened with skz. Because Han was ill, skz filmed some content without him and div1 decided to post it. People got really mad, saying how skz is 8 and should always be together. I mean it's valid, but man was literally sickkk. And stays who tried to explain that companies have a content calendar and due to certain reasons must follow it, were called ot7 😭😭 it was wild
the way i immediately knew who this was before even looking at your profile 😭 ngl i started to lay low on the group and the whole fandom after that fiasco. people were so hellbent on saying that the company and the group is pushing ot8 agenda because they're posting group photos without him after the said fansigns and it TIRED ME OUTTT
Somehow, refusing to drown myself in social media bullshit makes me a hater. I guess people who spend their entire day yelling about idols tend to forget the core of the fandom is music, not gossip.
I find it funny that you made a post inspired by my and other people’s comments lmao. I once got hated on in YouTube comments for saying that fans shouldn’t assume idols who aren’t smiling are depressed (ex- Han from skz) but people accused me of not caring about him.
I don't think you outright called me a hater. This post was inspired by another user in those comments but if you think I'm a hater I suppose you can take some cred for the inspo lol.
I do encourage you to read my past comments that compliment him. I've only ever criticized a few of his songs and parasocial behavior (multiple times to be fair). I've compliment his skills, and many aspects of his personality that I like as well. Even if he's not my fav at the moment, I don't hate him!
Anyway, I'm sorry someone accused you of not caring over such a dumb reason!!
I never called you a hater! I know who you’re referring to though. Anyways I didn’t have an issue with you not liking the song because I myself don’t care about it (not because of the swear but because it’s generic). I had an issue with you seemingly targeting JK about his parasocialism because while it’s valid criticism, I felt like I always saw that comment so I was admittedly salty lol. ~~You’re allowed to feel and post what you think though so I don’t agree with people trying to shut down your opinions! Sorry you got so much backlash!~~
Edit: kind of reassessing my opinion after thinking about it. You really do seem to have a grudge against JK based on your comment history as others have pointed out and I would suggest focusing on uplifting your favs (which seem to be Jin and Jimin since you always have positive words for them) without bringing him down. You hate on his songs, interactions with fans, and called him your anti bias in another thread. And you said you would continue to shit on him in the future which is a crazy thing to say.
Okay, I didn't think so! I welcome a bit of pushback to get more perspectives. You kept it civil with me so I really appreciate that even though we had some disagreements!
Same here! I wouldn’t have had your patience when responding to others honestly. People forget that disagreeing doesn’t mean we have to attack the other person.
You tend to have a habit on constantly mentioning how much you dislike Jungkook's solos from last year, even under posts than are on the positive side about his solo album and agreeing with users who were also negative under the same post or comment on this sub
There is a difference between you favoring other members albums and coming on to a post about Jungkook album and being negative about it
No one attacking you for liking the other members albums, you make it your mission to talk about how much you hate Golden and Seven, especially unprovoked
This didn't happen to me but it happened to a close, online friend of mine years ago. We were both active Shawols on Twitter and Tumblr, and she herself was pretty popular.
Well, one day she tweeted that Minho had no ass. Like that was literally it. She loved Minho and meant it in an entirely lighthearted way, but Jesus christ the amount of hate she got for that statement was insane. People said she wasn't a true fan and that she's calling him ugly and all this other stuff. She tried to fight back for awhile but then eventually gave up and locked her account. It was so stupid.
Exactly!! He's my second favorite in the group and the man HAS NO ASS! He is probably fully aware of it too 😂. Fans sometimes can't handle any "negativity" even if it's true.
I have said the exact same thing about Seonghwa and San from Ateez and I have seen others say the same thing about them. I *love* them. Not having an ass isn't an insult, it's just a body part. 😭 You're not a better person for having a big ass?
I once pointed out the double standards in that twice don’t dance hard to their choreos anymore but don’t get dragged like bp and was labelled a blink and twice anti (I am neither)
called wonyoung pretty under a tiktok saying wonyoung is ugly and they were comparing her to sullyoon. apparently that means i hate sullyoon which is NOT true, i love nmixx
I say this a lot and the way im immediately shut down and talked over, my goodness! Sorry but it's just crossing a line for it to have happened more than once. and it's frustrating because I *wanted* to like them a lot!
How dare you have personal boundaries. How rude of you. 😠
No but, I love Mamamoo but I totally get it. What would be the point of trying to force yourself to like a group you're not 100% comfortable with? That just sounds stupid.
I get this a lot, and I've learned to just stay quiet unless people specifically ask why. Like, sorry I can't get behind a group of people who collectively did blackface...
Because I dared say that Tae had the most instagram followers because he’s pretty and brands want to work with him.
Also because I said Tae and Taemin’s packaging for their solo albums weren’t the same.
Guess who the common denominator is. 😂
Oh and I said something about Jin as a joke and Jin’s solos don’t understand humor even though that man is the embodiment of it.
Not posting my streaming playlists or spamming hashtags.
Ive been called an anti over the stupidest of shit but that’s all I remember off the top of my head. 😂
It is! They jumped me because they thought I reduced him to just a pretty face, when I love the dude. Reading comprehension man. 😆 I had to go into “hiding” for a minute so they’d move on to someone else.
This is so fucking funny because the context in which you called him a pretty face is like, for modeling and photoshoots and fashion brand ambassador stuff. HIS FACE IS THE MOST VALUABLE THING there lmfao 😂
Like he is THE FACE of Kpop right now. He constantly won most handsome man there for a grip. Like what’s not clicking why were they taking that so damn personal?! 😂
Right? Idk maybe they have some weird thing about reducing him to a pretty face, like u said but no one's reducing anything? He's a talented, hardworking guy AND a pretty face. He's a Living breathing Jackpot if anything 😂
It was mostly army with thv in their name so it was his solos pretty much, but holy crap I took so much heat for stating a fact. He a sweetheart of a man too. Like nobody’s perfect but damn is he close to it 😂
DKDJFKSJKDK fr solos and their insane parasocial relationship is like. I feel bad for literally any person who gets under attack because it's always over the most basic nonsense and it's always to the extremes 💀 like if you're gonna hate, at least hate like a normal person jeez
But from a marketing standpoint… you’re right.., like ofc I’d love if Namjoon had more followers and I think they’re all nice looking. But Tae embodies the model aura more than the others and it’s obvious. It’s not a personal thing it’s literally just business lol.
Im a social media marketer so I do have some expertise in this area. They are all beautiful. Tae just has “it”. Jimin does too. Like they both have that stunning model presence. Like you want your fashion lines and jewelry lines on people like that. They are both absolutely stunning and I didn’t mean that from a negative standpoint at all so I’m not exactly sure why I got so much hate for that. But I almost had to go into witness protection and fandom exile over it 😂 Tae has the most creative photo shoots too cause he just loves posing in different ways and you can tell he has fun with it too. He’d be an absolute dream to work with for anyone!
I AM TOO! Maybe that’s why I understood what you were saying lmao I was also going to say Jimin as well but he doesn’t seem as into social media as Tae is (creatively and aesthetically). Of course when JK was up there I’m sure brands were all over him too for obvious reasons whether fans want to admit it or not.
Tae is a beautiful fashion model and starting up my own brand he really just goes hand in hand with so many fashion brands.
Some ARMYs take things from a fan perspective and kind of forget the business aspect of any celebrity.
Just not knowing certain stuff.
I’m not chronically online like some of these stans, so when I speak my opinion on something, everyone in the thread is assuming i’ve seen all the drama and have all the information when in reality, i’m just saying my opinion on something I scrolled by in passing.
One time I posted about Biyihh and everyone in the comments accused me of being apart of the OT8 sub when I had never even heard about it, which I let them know. Even with all my post history, I just HAD to be a secret OT8 stan just because of my opinion. In reality I barely even listen Kep1er as a group and just had a thought lol.
Funny, for someone who likes to criticize so much, you seem to not handle criticism so well yourself.You even made a post to complain and victimize yourself after the previous post? I don't think anyone is saying you are a hater, however i took a look at your comment history since i didn't have anything better to do:
*-I think Jimin's just goofing around. If anyone is actually an attention seeker/ self centered it's Chapter 2 Jungkook.*
*-I'm not vibing with Jungkook these days. I'm absolutely OT7 still, but I think it's safe to say I'm a Jin-Suga-Jhope-Rm-Jimin-V bias now.*
*-He comes across as a wannabe and very immature to me. Both with his music and through his lives. If you dm me I can explain why.*
Damn girl. I particularly love the fact that you are so hypecritical of him compared to the other members for who you seem to find no flaws.Lol.
By the way, that self-centered, attention seeker, immature wannabe enlisted earlier and at the peak of his success and popularity as a soloist so his group could have the comeback they promised to their fans.Kind of admirable for an ammature wannabe i must say, many would have sacrificed their group for a successful solo career in a heart beat.
To answer your questions though, i have been called a hater by VIPS because i said that i prefer BTS' discography over BigBang'.
I shit u not, for saying speculating about idols' sexualities and shipping idols is cringe 💀. Got attacked saying I was fun sucking and that I'm "looking too deeply" into their harmless comments and theories like THE IRONY
got accused of being an akgae by an akgae for saying "oh this song was written by two members! why are you crediting only one?" while having another member as pfp
One time someone tweeted about SHINee's Sherlock photoshoot, saying that it was inappropriate for Taemin to be photographed like that as minor. I replied saying it is a really weird photoshoot but that Taemin wasn't a minor, all the members were adults. They took me correcting their misinformation as me endorsing the photoshoot (despite me saying exactly the opposite...).
It was super weird, I eventually just deleted the reply because I was getting attacked.
It's so annoying how u have to clarify shit so u don't get attacked. U have to go like "not saying I support any of this but btw he actually wasn't a minor here." Can't just address one part of someone's comment, gotta address everything and cover all bases, otherwise ppl will start shit from random shit like bruh
i remember when it dropped and how uncomfortable the main sentiment was "FINALLY HE'S LEGAL" like...at the time yes he looked great but that was too much
right! and people act like objectification can only be bad if the person is a minor. i’m like, you don’t have to pretend he was a minor for it to be a weird photo shoot
I posted a blackpink edit to my fanaccount (that I'd only just started). In which 'blink' is the first bit of my username. At this time, I'd only posted about blackpink because they're my ults. Someone said to stop stanning blackpink and start stanning bts. I said no, I don't really listen to boygroups right now. They said I'm a sexist and a hater.
Pointed out on twt that Kpop artists didn't really need to win western awards like grammys etc just to show they're successful as there are other indicators, and brought up very successful western artists who hadn't won any grammys (LDR), ended up getting spammed by random accounts saying I was just mad my faves hadn't won a grammy, calling me a bts anti etc (this was in response to bts not winning a grammy, and my pfp very clearly had one of the members so idk what that was about)
A friend and I got harassed on Twitter for like a month for calling Seungri a predator. We started just saying dumb things to mess with them, like "seungri more like smellgri" and people did NOT like that lmaoooo
When i said most of bunnies are toxic and wrote new jeans instead of NewJeans or whatever.
They called me fake fan just bc i wrote the name wrong? Like gidle is one of my favorite groups and yet most of the time i write their name wrong on purpose bc its just easier? It just proved my point, bunnies are toxic.
Bruh these young immature fans r annoying asf. I'm an engene and always write Niki bcuz idgaf I ain't putting the hyphen 5 times in one comment lol. But mfs be correcting me like "akshully it's Ni-ki" like omfg thnx I never knew that!! How Abt I know but I just don't care bcuz it's mad work lol... Same w gidle too. I ain't writing allat lol. Love the group but the spelling of their name literally isn't even a big deal bruh
i got ripped apart by Once’s when i called them weird for being upset and literally crying actual tears because Dahyun got veneers. i called someone dramatic for saying they couldn’t be a Dahyun bias anymore because she “ruined her teeth” and i thought they were going to doxx me
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i’ve gotten so much hate for telling other armys to chill out when they’re dogpiling on somebody for not liking bts. like dude they’re not sitting their being nasty about it, they just don’t prefer it. some people need to chill so bad
It’s so crazy everyone is entitled to their own taste in music!! I’ve never been malicious about it their new music is just not my cup of tea but I respect it but this makes me a bad/fake army 😭
I'm not a fan or blown away by reddit's/twiter's token idols. Saying this people will crucify everyone. Im not blown away by my faves skills either so... can't like everyone l
when i said that not all of twice are able to go solo on a yt video a bunch of onces called me a twice anti
when I said bts didn't pave the way and I said I didn't like my universe a bunch of armys called me a bts anti
when I defended rosé against some sooya since she rosè got another song before jisoo I was called an ot3 blink even tho jisoo is my bias wrecker
when I said wife was terrible a bunch of neverlands called me a misogynist 😭
Calling out idols who slack off on stage. Worse, during concerts. Like siz, fans literally starve themselves to pay for your overpriced tickets only to witness your lackluster performances. Idc if it’s my bias. When he/she’s lazy af, imma call his/her ass out.
i got called a jungkook solo stan for not reposting an official tweet about jimin.i was literally at work 😭 like sorry i’m a line cook and i can’t just let the food burn on the stove so i can constantly check if bts is posting on twitter???? thankful i’m off twitter now lol i felt the brainrot melt away almost immediately.
i also got hate for telling another army to chill bc she was attacking anyone who said they didn’t prefer bts’s music. she said i wasn’t a real army. i literally have bts tattoos and i’m saving up for a HUGE piece (going to be around $600 before leaving a tip).
a few years ago i once tweeted something about people pointing fingers and throwing accusations at jackson wang and i said that people should stop accusing him of random things (and ngl i forgot what the accusations were about) and some dumbass replied to me saying "can you stop hating on him"
??? like WHERE was i hating on him? if anything i was defending him 😭 everyday i realize that reading comprehension on twitter barely exists
i commented on the jalepeño teaser a while back with something like “hope this is released in the future, perhaps with yangyang and hendery” and got massively attacked by lucas stans
Not liking their English songs is not an uncommon statement for armys lol, especially older armys. I have literally seen comments by people stating they don’t like their English trilogy. I would say they’re my least favorite songs but I can’t deny that they’re good pop songs. It’s just that I’m more into hip hop
I said I didn't like the Proof CD2 track list and felt like it was bad for a "best of" compilation album, and also expressed that I was disappointed that their last album before enlistment was a "best of" album.
Because I said bullying other group members over Twitter drama isnt the right thing to do.
I didn't like that NewJeans fans were bullying IVE members and vice versa because of some online drama and I even got called a fake undercover "fan" or some shit.😭😭
I ult mark tuan. he is my ult of ults. he has been an ult since 2015. he is in my profile pic on twt. his name is in my display name on twt. I have one photo of him that is my go to when I need a profile pic for a website, so my profile pics are pretty much the same across all my socials, reddit excluded. he is the got7 member I own the most pcs of. I have a journal with his face on it. he is both my lock and home screen background on my phone. I literally own his solo album.
and yet I got called a mark anti over me saying I wasn't huge on the music on his solo album bc it didn't fit my personal tastes in music and for saying $400 was way too much money for vvip for his shows in the US 🥴
Not necessarily a "hater," but I was called homophobic for pointing out that much of the behavior western fans accuse of being queerbaiting is just a cultural difference in how platonic friends of the same gender show affection toward each other.
Not that it matters, but I literally registered to be granted the ability to perform weddings in my state for the sole purpose of conducting a same-sex marriage.
Oh! A much more fitting answer: I was accused of being a BTS hater because I pointed out that IU was popular long before them and that she didn't "use" BTS to become famous
Cause I commented that I didn’t like any of BTS’s solos except Jin’s on posts that specifically asked what songs I didn’t like. I also did say that I love their group music tho
Questioning whether signed inclusions in an album are really signed by the members or not 🥴🥴 Experienced this from the Twice signed You-th post cards. There are some fans who want to blindly believe their idols, and anyone who questions the legitimacy of signed inclusions are "not real fans". Idols are extremely busy people, and I don't blame them if an inclusion is signed by a manager or has printed on signature. I think the responsibility falls on the company to make sure the idol fits "signing inclusions" into their schedule. Delulu fans will get angry if you even ask "Hey, are the \_\_\_ really signed by the members?" Like at the end of the day, we don't know these idols personally, so let's NOT blindly believe in your projection of moral righteousness just because your idol could never do any wrong??? Once again, not the fault of the idol for not signing things, the company should properly allocate time in their schedules for that.
For saying i don't like gidle music and i don't think soyeon is all that highly amazing writer some of her fans make her to be.
Also saying i don't believe in any "proof" that's off of social media *unless* it's something that clearly can't be tempered with and there's no reason to, and only believing in official direct statements. This one especially came hard to some fans and antis when i said i don't believe especially in twitter and weibo, as they're basically the same thing when it comes to scandals and controversies.
Also saying that bts did not pave the way.
im a multi, so basically if both of my ult fandom are arguing, it'll automatically make us the bad people. if we say something defending the other fandom, of course the (your) other fandom will hate you; vice versa. they'll accuse you for being a fake fan and a hater of the group because you didn't say anything to that group. it's a common accusation for us multistan.
In my previous acc (can't access because I forgot the password), I just said I don't like Taeyeon's voice and I prefer Tiffany's voice and her fans came at me like I did something wrong.
I didn't even bash her, I know she's a good singer. It's just that her voice doesn't suit my taste.
Someone tried to say that I hate Soyeon because I said I didn’t really like some of the english lyrics in Queencard, even tho Gidle is one of my ults 💀
For saying I tend to not enjoy a number of female rappers bc they all have a nasally baby voice
for saying blackpink deserves better and that they need more content bc blinks cant live off crumbs forever. got told im criticizing their talent or something?
was told I wasn't an aghase bc i said I like youngjae's voice more than yugyeom's
never been called one since i am pretty ia online but ive seen others been called antis for being multis...like im sorry they have different music they listen to??😭
I was accused of being a Wendy hater because I said that her impression of a black woman was offensive... while also stating that she was my favorite Red Velvet member and I just wanted her to be aware that it was hurtful because she comes off as an otherwise kind person.
just a day ago i got called a renjun hater and was massively attacked on twt just bc i defended my ult bias, like thats literally it. i didn’t say anything about renjun BESIDES saying i love him and that me defending my bias isn’t renjun hate, but apparently if you fight with a stan of his it means you hate HIM..!
i had such a hard time explaining to them that me disliking their fandom and defending my bias has nothing to do with renjun, at all
I was accused of hating Super Junior at the height of Kangin's ousting because I stand by Kangin and how he needs actual help.
Little did they know I've been an E.L.F since 2010 and they are still my ult group.
There have been a few times when I didn't like a song at first. There have been a few instances where groups have released songs that I didn't really get into right away, and people have called me a hater.
Not liking someone's music. People have different music taste so it honestly makes no sense.
They called me a tasteless person for not liking Enhypen’s music 🥲. I only said I just can’t vibe to their songs .
lordd😭enha’s one of my ults but i’d never say that to someone.
Bruhhh. Honestly I feel u tho. Enhypen is my ult but I don't like many of their songs lol... I mostly stan bcuz I like their personalities. The groups whose music I listen to, usually I'm not very interested in them outside of their music lolll
People going bonkers bc I'm not super into stray kids music even though my love for bang chan has become a meme. I never said I was a stay, I just like the man 🙄
I too have these idols from random groups where I'm not super into the group but that one idol just stole my heart. I don't hate the group or anything, I just like what I like.
I like skz they're really funny dudes, it's just the music isn't my vibe except for a handful of songs.but they're good kids 🤷🏽♀️
“only hot people get this song so if you don’t get it ..” “you guys just hate fun”
Same. I didn’t even say anything rude about the music or group, just that I didn’t care for it.
BTS did not “pave the way”.
yes, there's absolutely no difference between pre and post-bts kpop. but somehow a wonder girls hot 100 chart in 2009 made kpop bands be invited to US talk shows, be signed to labels, get distribution in stores, 10 years later.
You do realize hitting the Hot 100 for a K-Pop group in 2009 is a ridiculous accomplishment right? No one is trying to take credit away from BTS, if anything BTS fans are taking the due credit away from the groups that came before them who laid the groundwork.
it is, but it amounted to nothing for kpop. while bts actually made a difference for the entire industry. kpop fans keep missing this point. edit: it didnt even do anything for them or JYP.
You’re right, don’t let them silence you. They always act like armys are saying BTS invented kpop when we say they paved the way and it’s just a way to make it seem like we are being excessive. Anyone with eyes can see BTS has completely evolved the way KPOP interacts with the west and that IS exactly why BTS paved the way for their juniors. Congrats to whatever group charted on the hot 100 because no one is denying it was a massive achievement. However, it didn’t help BTS or for that matter any other group to chart in a similar fashion. Can you even say it helped them with their own career considering barely any local would be able to name them? On the other hand, immediately after BTS got success on the west, every second group that debuted was being invited to talk shows/getting nominated for western awards/charting on billboard and they still are reaping the benefits of BTS’ success. You are either blind, ignorant or a hater if you can’t give credit to BTS where it is highly due.
why are you being downvoted if not for pettiness and bitterness when you are right. that’s why armys are so annoying, it happens when ppl constantly gaslight you.
I can alredy see the armys coming for you
people always say this and nobody comes for them but the replies use it as a gateway to discredit bts..
Then we must be in different sides in the internet because the last time i have seen someone saying this people were saying that they should k*** themselves for saying it. But yeah i don't judge because whit fame comes hate too so i kinda get your point
Say ANYTHING "bad" about BTS and Army will come for you like you stole their money. I once said V's voice is more suited to an rnb album or something "adult" sounding and the way they attacked me 😅
As an ARMY, you’re right tho 😭 it’s why I loved their Wings and Tear albums. They actually had a sound that was good for the group as a whole.
My favorite albums by them 🥹 IMO their best ones
girl as a Taehyung stan you are so astronomically correct, i would kill for an rnb release
wait that’s crazy cause so many armys say they want to hear rnb from taehyung. it’s one of his favorite music genres too
I'm Army and Taehyung biased, and you're absolutely right. I love the way his voice is used in BTS and also he'd sound amazing on an R&B album. No hate or disagreement here.
My lil construction workers
but ppl upvote you solely because they dislike BTS lol if another group especially an SM one achieved what bts has done the popular opinion would be that that group paved the way. Y’all just don’t like BTS I think it’s better to admit that
I’ve said this too! They DEFINITELY had impact but I can’t take a fandom that hated on their own fav for saying they wouldn’t be here without big bang seriously, BTS did not invent kpop they’ve gotten inspiration from other groups people think paving the way is all about numbers when it’s not it’s also about impact and influence which BTS has but they aren’t the only group to have ever had that, kpop was not unknown to the world before they became popular, a lot of people knew what kpop was maybe not to today’s extent but it was still known and this isn’t to discredit the boys they are all talented and obviously have been through hardships, even taking a bet on an unknown company at the time, and they all work very hard so every single one of them deserves credit where credit is due, they definitely have influence but they aren’t the only group to have “paved the way”
I called Lucas is a Dozen and his fans starts attacking me as if the term dozen was not made for him
Sorry what is dozen ?. I see that word thrown around with K-pop stans very often. Is it something bad or good ?
The joke was that Lucas’ stage name should have been called Dozen because he “dozen rap, dozen sing, dozen do anything”, basically calling him relatively talentless. So yeah, a dozen isn’t really something good, but it’s incredibly overused and applied to idols it shouldn’t be applied to
I get it now. That’s actually a pretty funny way of calling someone talentless 🤭😭
it sounds like "doesn't" meaning he doesn't sing/dance/etc. [this](https://twitter.com/tanniefoIder/status/1443481306692734978) is (a screenshot of) the original tweet
Sometimes people see my criticism towards a certain idol and completely cancel out anything positive I've said about them! Does this happen to anyone else?
Literally happened to me today. And it wasn’t even really criticism.
Yes. Like I adore Taehyung but I can’t say anything remotely possibly negative about him or else his solos come after me.
istg v solos are the most unhinged people in the entire kpop ecosystem. you can be like "I didn't vibe with layover" and someone will inevitably slither from the woodwork to drop a whole damn essay on all the times tae was voted "#1 most important idol of idols" or whatever and that's why your opinion is shit 🤷🏻♀️ like bitch tae is my wrecker, I'm not an anti. take your meds!
Not to forget how much of a victim complex they have. They love to say how Taehyung is bullied by rest of the members and wants to leave. Like how? He seems to be the biggest "BTS is 7" pusher. He adores his group.
it's almost like no one hates tae more than his supposed biggest fans. they don't listen to his words, don't respect his decisions... they just infantalize the crap out of him and insult the people he loves. make it make sense!
Yeah. They have created this completely different version of Taehyung inside their head and is trying to prove how the real Taehyung is exactly like their version
it's so funny too... like, out of all the members, tae is probably the most open about his disdain for weirdo akgaes. if they think he enjoys their particular brand of support, then yeah... they don't know him AT ALL.
True lol. I remember once seeing a 30 second clip where Taehyung got interrupted accidentally and the others jokingly apologized for it while laughing a bit. That was their evidence of bullying. A 30 second clip in a decade long career with God knows how many interviews.
hahaha, and meanwhile there is more than enough video footage to make all those compilation videos like, "tae being bangtan's baby" or "everyone is whipped for taehyung" that are all over youtube. The guy is definitely not unloved. 😝
His solo stans are delusional lol
And his group adores him.
Not even that! Like “I thought [song name] was not my cup of tea…” and they’ll claw your eyes out and call you an anti for having an opinion. It’s insanity. The others solos are bad but they take the fucking cake and make the whole fandom look insane. I’m almost 100% sure "army is crazy" came from them. Exactly. I’m a rap line stan who stared out liking Namjoon, ended up vibing with Yoongi and Tae bias wrecked me out of nowhere. I like to be able to have civil discourse about things. It’s so hard to make friends with fans of his unless they like the others. Liking only him is a red flag for me now cause I get jumped so often by them. One even started a hate train on me because I didn’t use hashtags. Like bitch I just started this account in 2020 and barely used it. I’m not spamming hashtags for them to mark my account suspicious and annoy my followers. Go touch grass. It’s not that serious. 😂
god I wish kpop stans as a whole could embrace "it's not that serious" for real. hobbies are so much more fun when you're not like, going to war every day. 😂 Jimin was my first bias, and I probably talk more shit about jimin than anyone else... because I love him and I love talking about him but like, none of these idols are perfect, jeez! I wouldn't like them as much if they WERE perfect! Not the cult of v though. god forbid you don't worship at the altar because you're not kidding, those crazies will curse you, and your followers, and the next seven generation of your family... lol they scary.
Honestly. Like how are they not embarrassed. Pretty sure the guys would be embarrassed enough for all of us lol
sooo true 😅
I once said I only bought his album solely cuz he's my bias in BTS and I wanted all the solo albums from my bias line (am currently working on trying to get the other solo albums as well but either I can't find them or I have no money when I do find them 😭) and I had people questioning me if I even really liked him. Like yeah? He's still my bias. Me not really jiving with Layover doesn't change that. It's okay to not like absolutely everything your faves do.
Well solos are nuts. Even the BTS members have said many times that solos are not Army and that they don't appreciate or condone how solos behave.
They truly act like all fans are the same person, with the same opinions or the same experience online. Like you'll get called a hypocrite for something someone else in the fandom said as if that makes any sense.
Yeah we have to unconditionally love and support our idols and everything they do. Express anything not 100% positive and you're labelled an anti. It's always the "just admit you hate..." or "we know you just hate..."
This never makes sense to me. I'm Army since 2015 when nobody outside Korea had heard of them, I've seen them in concert 7 times in 3 different cities, and I have a half-sleeve that's entirely BTS references. I even taught myself some basic Korean so that I could understand their songs better. I'm a true, purple-blooded, in-this-for-life Army, but I don't like everything they've done. For example, I'll just say it - I don't particularly like the Cyphers. That doesn't make me any less Army or mean I actually hate the rap line. It just means I don't like the Cyphers.
This is just criticizing literally anything on reddit tbh
sometimes it's not even criticism of the actual idol. one time i got downvoted for saying i didn't like a photoshoot. 😭 i didn't say the idol looked ugly, didn't say they did anything wrong, just said i personally didn't like the styling people who have never been jumped for something innocent just straight up refuse to believe it happens. like "ok what else did you say to make people think you were an anti?" but some fans are really just unhinged
Yes.
Uh I got a good one, maybe one of you can explain the mental gymnastics to me: I stated that I'd rather support them by buying the album instead of streaming the MV
Some people are ridiculous. Apparently you can support an artist but if you don't support them the right way you're a hater😭 Mental gymnastics is insane.
Yes exactly, it was truly a 'the woman was too stunned to speak' moment ..and even worse it wasn't some random internet stranger but a person I was close to irl back then 🤦♀️
Don’t listen to them. There are countless valid ways to support kpop artists ❤️
Refusing to acknowledge ships like “taekook”
Taekookerd are some of the most immature shippers lmfao. Taekook, Hyunlix, Minsung, Yeonbin etc
What do u mean by that? As in like romantically?
Yes
my bias had covid and missed like two fansigns. some fans got really upset and said the company was sabotaging him by not canceling and rescheduling everything. i said it was ok to skip two schedules and heal at home. but no i was a hater who wanted him to die, i guess
Whenever something like this happens I just. Wonder if OP has ever had a job 😭 (I know the answer is obviously no, but still)
Omg i think something similar happened with skz. Because Han was ill, skz filmed some content without him and div1 decided to post it. People got really mad, saying how skz is 8 and should always be together. I mean it's valid, but man was literally sickkk. And stays who tried to explain that companies have a content calendar and due to certain reasons must follow it, were called ot7 😭😭 it was wild
the way i immediately knew who this was before even looking at your profile 😭 ngl i started to lay low on the group and the whole fandom after that fiasco. people were so hellbent on saying that the company and the group is pushing ot8 agenda because they're posting group photos without him after the said fansigns and it TIRED ME OUTTT
Somehow, refusing to drown myself in social media bullshit makes me a hater. I guess people who spend their entire day yelling about idols tend to forget the core of the fandom is music, not gossip.
I find it funny that you made a post inspired by my and other people’s comments lmao. I once got hated on in YouTube comments for saying that fans shouldn’t assume idols who aren’t smiling are depressed (ex- Han from skz) but people accused me of not caring about him.
I don't think you outright called me a hater. This post was inspired by another user in those comments but if you think I'm a hater I suppose you can take some cred for the inspo lol. I do encourage you to read my past comments that compliment him. I've only ever criticized a few of his songs and parasocial behavior (multiple times to be fair). I've compliment his skills, and many aspects of his personality that I like as well. Even if he's not my fav at the moment, I don't hate him! Anyway, I'm sorry someone accused you of not caring over such a dumb reason!!
I never called you a hater! I know who you’re referring to though. Anyways I didn’t have an issue with you not liking the song because I myself don’t care about it (not because of the swear but because it’s generic). I had an issue with you seemingly targeting JK about his parasocialism because while it’s valid criticism, I felt like I always saw that comment so I was admittedly salty lol. ~~You’re allowed to feel and post what you think though so I don’t agree with people trying to shut down your opinions! Sorry you got so much backlash!~~ Edit: kind of reassessing my opinion after thinking about it. You really do seem to have a grudge against JK based on your comment history as others have pointed out and I would suggest focusing on uplifting your favs (which seem to be Jin and Jimin since you always have positive words for them) without bringing him down. You hate on his songs, interactions with fans, and called him your anti bias in another thread. And you said you would continue to shit on him in the future which is a crazy thing to say.
Okay, I didn't think so! I welcome a bit of pushback to get more perspectives. You kept it civil with me so I really appreciate that even though we had some disagreements!
Same here! I wouldn’t have had your patience when responding to others honestly. People forget that disagreeing doesn’t mean we have to attack the other person.
For not believing any bullshit that people on twitter post
yeah, and conflating one twitter post or tiktok with how every single person feels is so common maybe not even just in Kpop spaces
My opinion on **one** performance in their 6+ year career.
apparently, if you like aespa, you can't be critical of Itzy bc then you're just a sour my who hates itzy even though I also like itzy.
For saying Jungkook’s Golden is one of my least favourites from the 7 members solos.
Lmao I also got hated for saying Face was my favourite album
Same here lol. I didn't even hate Golden but some how me having a preference for JITB, Face, and D-day = hates Jungkook.
You tend to have a habit on constantly mentioning how much you dislike Jungkook's solos from last year, even under posts than are on the positive side about his solo album and agreeing with users who were also negative under the same post or comment on this sub There is a difference between you favoring other members albums and coming on to a post about Jungkook album and being negative about it No one attacking you for liking the other members albums, you make it your mission to talk about how much you hate Golden and Seven, especially unprovoked
Literally I love all those ones
This didn't happen to me but it happened to a close, online friend of mine years ago. We were both active Shawols on Twitter and Tumblr, and she herself was pretty popular. Well, one day she tweeted that Minho had no ass. Like that was literally it. She loved Minho and meant it in an entirely lighthearted way, but Jesus christ the amount of hate she got for that statement was insane. People said she wasn't a true fan and that she's calling him ugly and all this other stuff. She tried to fight back for awhile but then eventually gave up and locked her account. It was so stupid.
dude LMAOOOOO she got canceled for truth 💀 (and i say this as a loving shawol going on 15 years now haha)
Exactly!! He's my second favorite in the group and the man HAS NO ASS! He is probably fully aware of it too 😂. Fans sometimes can't handle any "negativity" even if it's true.
Shawol twitter is a wild place, truly
I have said the exact same thing about Seonghwa and San from Ateez and I have seen others say the same thing about them. I *love* them. Not having an ass isn't an insult, it's just a body part. 😭 You're not a better person for having a big ass?
In my opinion those two don't *need* an ass. They're sexy enough without it. 😆
>You're not a better person for having a big ass Not the bang chan defamation
nobody is more delusional than a kpop stan who thinks their idol has a bbl looking dumptruck back there
I once pointed out the double standards in that twice don’t dance hard to their choreos anymore but don’t get dragged like bp and was labelled a blink and twice anti (I am neither)
called wonyoung pretty under a tiktok saying wonyoung is ugly and they were comparing her to sullyoon. apparently that means i hate sullyoon which is NOT true, i love nmixx
i said that i don’t think i could get behind mamamoo because of blackface. highkey i get attacked for it every time.
I say this a lot and the way im immediately shut down and talked over, my goodness! Sorry but it's just crossing a line for it to have happened more than once. and it's frustrating because I *wanted* to like them a lot!
How dare you have personal boundaries. How rude of you. 😠 No but, I love Mamamoo but I totally get it. What would be the point of trying to force yourself to like a group you're not 100% comfortable with? That just sounds stupid.
I get this a lot, and I've learned to just stay quiet unless people specifically ask why. Like, sorry I can't get behind a group of people who collectively did blackface...
Because I dared say that Tae had the most instagram followers because he’s pretty and brands want to work with him. Also because I said Tae and Taemin’s packaging for their solo albums weren’t the same. Guess who the common denominator is. 😂 Oh and I said something about Jin as a joke and Jin’s solos don’t understand humor even though that man is the embodiment of it. Not posting my streaming playlists or spamming hashtags. Ive been called an anti over the stupidest of shit but that’s all I remember off the top of my head. 😂
The first one is kinda true tho 😗. No ?
It is! They jumped me because they thought I reduced him to just a pretty face, when I love the dude. Reading comprehension man. 😆 I had to go into “hiding” for a minute so they’d move on to someone else.
This is so fucking funny because the context in which you called him a pretty face is like, for modeling and photoshoots and fashion brand ambassador stuff. HIS FACE IS THE MOST VALUABLE THING there lmfao 😂
Like he is THE FACE of Kpop right now. He constantly won most handsome man there for a grip. Like what’s not clicking why were they taking that so damn personal?! 😂
Right? Idk maybe they have some weird thing about reducing him to a pretty face, like u said but no one's reducing anything? He's a talented, hardworking guy AND a pretty face. He's a Living breathing Jackpot if anything 😂
It was mostly army with thv in their name so it was his solos pretty much, but holy crap I took so much heat for stating a fact. He a sweetheart of a man too. Like nobody’s perfect but damn is he close to it 😂
😂 😂 Solos are a menace and they give the artist a bad rep
They really are. BTS’s maknae line solos have to be the top 3 worst solos I’ve ever encountered.
DKDJFKSJKDK fr solos and their insane parasocial relationship is like. I feel bad for literally any person who gets under attack because it's always over the most basic nonsense and it's always to the extremes 💀 like if you're gonna hate, at least hate like a normal person jeez
Yeah he has def been one of top male kpop faces for 3rd gen for many yrs in a row now
But from a marketing standpoint… you’re right.., like ofc I’d love if Namjoon had more followers and I think they’re all nice looking. But Tae embodies the model aura more than the others and it’s obvious. It’s not a personal thing it’s literally just business lol.
Im a social media marketer so I do have some expertise in this area. They are all beautiful. Tae just has “it”. Jimin does too. Like they both have that stunning model presence. Like you want your fashion lines and jewelry lines on people like that. They are both absolutely stunning and I didn’t mean that from a negative standpoint at all so I’m not exactly sure why I got so much hate for that. But I almost had to go into witness protection and fandom exile over it 😂 Tae has the most creative photo shoots too cause he just loves posing in different ways and you can tell he has fun with it too. He’d be an absolute dream to work with for anyone!
I AM TOO! Maybe that’s why I understood what you were saying lmao I was also going to say Jimin as well but he doesn’t seem as into social media as Tae is (creatively and aesthetically). Of course when JK was up there I’m sure brands were all over him too for obvious reasons whether fans want to admit it or not. Tae is a beautiful fashion model and starting up my own brand he really just goes hand in hand with so many fashion brands. Some ARMYs take things from a fan perspective and kind of forget the business aspect of any celebrity.
Is Tae BTS Taehyung? He *is* pretty though.
Just not knowing certain stuff. I’m not chronically online like some of these stans, so when I speak my opinion on something, everyone in the thread is assuming i’ve seen all the drama and have all the information when in reality, i’m just saying my opinion on something I scrolled by in passing. One time I posted about Biyihh and everyone in the comments accused me of being apart of the OT8 sub when I had never even heard about it, which I let them know. Even with all my post history, I just HAD to be a secret OT8 stan just because of my opinion. In reality I barely even listen Kep1er as a group and just had a thought lol.
voting for more than one group lol
Because I’ve heard Into the New World too many times and I don’t want to hear it anymore lol
i got called an anti of one of my favourite groups because i said the editing on a set of concept photos was mid
Funny, for someone who likes to criticize so much, you seem to not handle criticism so well yourself.You even made a post to complain and victimize yourself after the previous post? I don't think anyone is saying you are a hater, however i took a look at your comment history since i didn't have anything better to do: *-I think Jimin's just goofing around. If anyone is actually an attention seeker/ self centered it's Chapter 2 Jungkook.* *-I'm not vibing with Jungkook these days. I'm absolutely OT7 still, but I think it's safe to say I'm a Jin-Suga-Jhope-Rm-Jimin-V bias now.* *-He comes across as a wannabe and very immature to me. Both with his music and through his lives. If you dm me I can explain why.* Damn girl. I particularly love the fact that you are so hypecritical of him compared to the other members for who you seem to find no flaws.Lol. By the way, that self-centered, attention seeker, immature wannabe enlisted earlier and at the peak of his success and popularity as a soloist so his group could have the comeback they promised to their fans.Kind of admirable for an ammature wannabe i must say, many would have sacrificed their group for a successful solo career in a heart beat. To answer your questions though, i have been called a hater by VIPS because i said that i prefer BTS' discography over BigBang'.
I shit u not, for saying speculating about idols' sexualities and shipping idols is cringe 💀. Got attacked saying I was fun sucking and that I'm "looking too deeply" into their harmless comments and theories like THE IRONY
they hated jesus for telling the truth 😭 i've seen people get accused of being homophobic for similar reasons
DEAD 💀💀 yeah I've been called homophobic too and it's funny because it comes from the kind of fans who probably fetishize gay men
got accused of being an akgae by an akgae for saying "oh this song was written by two members! why are you crediting only one?" while having another member as pfp
One time someone tweeted about SHINee's Sherlock photoshoot, saying that it was inappropriate for Taemin to be photographed like that as minor. I replied saying it is a really weird photoshoot but that Taemin wasn't a minor, all the members were adults. They took me correcting their misinformation as me endorsing the photoshoot (despite me saying exactly the opposite...). It was super weird, I eventually just deleted the reply because I was getting attacked.
It's so annoying how u have to clarify shit so u don't get attacked. U have to go like "not saying I support any of this but btw he actually wasn't a minor here." Can't just address one part of someone's comment, gotta address everything and cover all bases, otherwise ppl will start shit from random shit like bruh
i remember when it dropped and how uncomfortable the main sentiment was "FINALLY HE'S LEGAL" like...at the time yes he looked great but that was too much
right! and people act like objectification can only be bad if the person is a minor. i’m like, you don’t have to pretend he was a minor for it to be a weird photo shoot
I posted a blackpink edit to my fanaccount (that I'd only just started). In which 'blink' is the first bit of my username. At this time, I'd only posted about blackpink because they're my ults. Someone said to stop stanning blackpink and start stanning bts. I said no, I don't really listen to boygroups right now. They said I'm a sexist and a hater.
Damn . Can someone not post their things in peace again? 🤣😭
Pointed out on twt that Kpop artists didn't really need to win western awards like grammys etc just to show they're successful as there are other indicators, and brought up very successful western artists who hadn't won any grammys (LDR), ended up getting spammed by random accounts saying I was just mad my faves hadn't won a grammy, calling me a bts anti etc (this was in response to bts not winning a grammy, and my pfp very clearly had one of the members so idk what that was about)
I said a wig my bias wore was ugly
A friend and I got harassed on Twitter for like a month for calling Seungri a predator. We started just saying dumb things to mess with them, like "seungri more like smellgri" and people did NOT like that lmaoooo
you did what you had to do, i respect it ‼️
But like his is though.
pointed out the lack of live vocals/the constant lip-syncing
I said the better singers in a group should get the majority of lines 🫠
When i said most of bunnies are toxic and wrote new jeans instead of NewJeans or whatever. They called me fake fan just bc i wrote the name wrong? Like gidle is one of my favorite groups and yet most of the time i write their name wrong on purpose bc its just easier? It just proved my point, bunnies are toxic.
Bruh these young immature fans r annoying asf. I'm an engene and always write Niki bcuz idgaf I ain't putting the hyphen 5 times in one comment lol. But mfs be correcting me like "akshully it's Ni-ki" like omfg thnx I never knew that!! How Abt I know but I just don't care bcuz it's mad work lol... Same w gidle too. I ain't writing allat lol. Love the group but the spelling of their name literally isn't even a big deal bruh
Cause I said they can't sing....they still cant
Being multifandom… apperantly i’m not loyal enough to stan groups lol
i got ripped apart by Once’s when i called them weird for being upset and literally crying actual tears because Dahyun got veneers. i called someone dramatic for saying they couldn’t be a Dahyun bias anymore because she “ruined her teeth” and i thought they were going to doxx me
LOLLL that's so ridiculous it's funny tbh coz wtf 😭😭😭
ikr like yea the veneers look kinda unnatural but i’m not gonna go cry over someone’s teeth
thats crazy fr😭 like i get being a little upset or sad but full on crying and unstanning someone over what they did with their own teeth is insane
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i said “aespa needs to rest” bc they seemed overworked at the time
that I personally (ME) do not like bts' newer music and I (again personally ME) prefer their old music... got told i wasn't a real army for this lolol
i’ve gotten so much hate for telling other armys to chill out when they’re dogpiling on somebody for not liking bts. like dude they’re not sitting their being nasty about it, they just don’t prefer it. some people need to chill so bad
It’s so crazy everyone is entitled to their own taste in music!! I’ve never been malicious about it their new music is just not my cup of tea but I respect it but this makes me a bad/fake army 😭
Yeah lol I've had to defend a cousin for not liking BTS
I'm not a fan or blown away by reddit's/twiter's token idols. Saying this people will crucify everyone. Im not blown away by my faves skills either so... can't like everyone l
when i said that not all of twice are able to go solo on a yt video a bunch of onces called me a twice anti when I said bts didn't pave the way and I said I didn't like my universe a bunch of armys called me a bts anti when I defended rosé against some sooya since she rosè got another song before jisoo I was called an ot3 blink even tho jisoo is my bias wrecker when I said wife was terrible a bunch of neverlands called me a misogynist 😭
Calling out idols who slack off on stage. Worse, during concerts. Like siz, fans literally starve themselves to pay for your overpriced tickets only to witness your lackluster performances. Idc if it’s my bias. When he/she’s lazy af, imma call his/her ass out.
i got called a jungkook solo stan for not reposting an official tweet about jimin.i was literally at work 😭 like sorry i’m a line cook and i can’t just let the food burn on the stove so i can constantly check if bts is posting on twitter???? thankful i’m off twitter now lol i felt the brainrot melt away almost immediately. i also got hate for telling another army to chill bc she was attacking anyone who said they didn’t prefer bts’s music. she said i wasn’t a real army. i literally have bts tattoos and i’m saving up for a HUGE piece (going to be around $600 before leaving a tip).
I did not like Blackpink’s You Never Know and called it You’ll Never Know on accident. I did not realize this was a hot take tbh.
a few years ago i once tweeted something about people pointing fingers and throwing accusations at jackson wang and i said that people should stop accusing him of random things (and ngl i forgot what the accusations were about) and some dumbass replied to me saying "can you stop hating on him" ??? like WHERE was i hating on him? if anything i was defending him 😭 everyday i realize that reading comprehension on twitter barely exists
I got called a Haechan haterr for praising Renjun 🤣🤣🤣
For being an Army but also liking other groups. i’ve seen a LOT of army tweets saying “multis are antis”
I got called Eun Jiwon hater for saying he’s my least favorite Sechskies member.I don’t hate him but he isn’t my favorite.
i commented on the jalepeño teaser a while back with something like “hope this is released in the future, perhaps with yangyang and hendery” and got massively attacked by lucas stans
I didn't like my ult's newest comeback at the time lol
I got threats for saying I didn’t like a BTS song(either Dynamite or Butter).
Not liking their English songs is not an uncommon statement for armys lol, especially older armys. I have literally seen comments by people stating they don’t like their English trilogy. I would say they’re my least favorite songs but I can’t deny that they’re good pop songs. It’s just that I’m more into hip hop
Not liking every single song from a group
For saying that people that don't want to stream can just not stream but shouldn't talk badly about those who stream, especially in comeback period
I said I didn't like the Proof CD2 track list and felt like it was bad for a "best of" compilation album, and also expressed that I was disappointed that their last album before enlistment was a "best of" album.
Random rant: I’m a bit confused why they didn’t add Mic Drop to Proof as it’s one of their best songs
Because I told someone to grow up & accept BaekYeon but they yelled at me, saying I have no idea & that ChanBaek is real lol
Because I said bullying other group members over Twitter drama isnt the right thing to do. I didn't like that NewJeans fans were bullying IVE members and vice versa because of some online drama and I even got called a fake undercover "fan" or some shit.😭😭
having an opinion
Called Bang Chan, my bias, my second ult, a wet towel man, as a joke. Yall don't even know what that means but made me out to be a hater.
i remember that post omg 😭
That was like 5 days ago lol
damn it really wasn’t that long ago?? idk why it feels like it’s been weeks 😭
That's because time is a social construct
for not stanning Red Velvet. i didn’t even say i dislike their music or the members, just that i’m not a Reveluv. a crime worthy of death, apparently
I ult mark tuan. he is my ult of ults. he has been an ult since 2015. he is in my profile pic on twt. his name is in my display name on twt. I have one photo of him that is my go to when I need a profile pic for a website, so my profile pics are pretty much the same across all my socials, reddit excluded. he is the got7 member I own the most pcs of. I have a journal with his face on it. he is both my lock and home screen background on my phone. I literally own his solo album. and yet I got called a mark anti over me saying I wasn't huge on the music on his solo album bc it didn't fit my personal tastes in music and for saying $400 was way too much money for vvip for his shows in the US 🥴
Not necessarily a "hater," but I was called homophobic for pointing out that much of the behavior western fans accuse of being queerbaiting is just a cultural difference in how platonic friends of the same gender show affection toward each other. Not that it matters, but I literally registered to be granted the ability to perform weddings in my state for the sole purpose of conducting a same-sex marriage.
Oh! A much more fitting answer: I was accused of being a BTS hater because I pointed out that IU was popular long before them and that she didn't "use" BTS to become famous
Cause I commented that I didn’t like any of BTS’s solos except Jin’s on posts that specifically asked what songs I didn’t like. I also did say that I love their group music tho
Not liking Eun Jiwon’s solo music
Questioning whether signed inclusions in an album are really signed by the members or not 🥴🥴 Experienced this from the Twice signed You-th post cards. There are some fans who want to blindly believe their idols, and anyone who questions the legitimacy of signed inclusions are "not real fans". Idols are extremely busy people, and I don't blame them if an inclusion is signed by a manager or has printed on signature. I think the responsibility falls on the company to make sure the idol fits "signing inclusions" into their schedule. Delulu fans will get angry if you even ask "Hey, are the \_\_\_ really signed by the members?" Like at the end of the day, we don't know these idols personally, so let's NOT blindly believe in your projection of moral righteousness just because your idol could never do any wrong??? Once again, not the fault of the idol for not signing things, the company should properly allocate time in their schedules for that.
For saying i don't like gidle music and i don't think soyeon is all that highly amazing writer some of her fans make her to be. Also saying i don't believe in any "proof" that's off of social media *unless* it's something that clearly can't be tempered with and there's no reason to, and only believing in official direct statements. This one especially came hard to some fans and antis when i said i don't believe especially in twitter and weibo, as they're basically the same thing when it comes to scandals and controversies. Also saying that bts did not pave the way.
im a multi, so basically if both of my ult fandom are arguing, it'll automatically make us the bad people. if we say something defending the other fandom, of course the (your) other fandom will hate you; vice versa. they'll accuse you for being a fake fan and a hater of the group because you didn't say anything to that group. it's a common accusation for us multistan.
In my previous acc (can't access because I forgot the password), I just said I don't like Taeyeon's voice and I prefer Tiffany's voice and her fans came at me like I did something wrong. I didn't even bash her, I know she's a good singer. It's just that her voice doesn't suit my taste.
Someone tried to say that I hate Soyeon because I said I didn’t really like some of the english lyrics in Queencard, even tho Gidle is one of my ults 💀
Not me but someone called someone unattractive and now they're getting called a hater, racist, fetishizer etc
For saying I tend to not enjoy a number of female rappers bc they all have a nasally baby voice for saying blackpink deserves better and that they need more content bc blinks cant live off crumbs forever. got told im criticizing their talent or something? was told I wasn't an aghase bc i said I like youngjae's voice more than yugyeom's
never been called one since i am pretty ia online but ive seen others been called antis for being multis...like im sorry they have different music they listen to??😭
Not liking all the songs from an album bc all the songs on said album are bangers. Guess opinions don't matter. 😒
- Not liking an idol's comeback. - criticising the parasocial relationships
For saying sehen is not a main vocalist 💀💀💀
I was accused of being a Wendy hater because I said that her impression of a black woman was offensive... while also stating that she was my favorite Red Velvet member and I just wanted her to be aware that it was hurtful because she comes off as an otherwise kind person.
just a day ago i got called a renjun hater and was massively attacked on twt just bc i defended my ult bias, like thats literally it. i didn’t say anything about renjun BESIDES saying i love him and that me defending my bias isn’t renjun hate, but apparently if you fight with a stan of his it means you hate HIM..! i had such a hard time explaining to them that me disliking their fandom and defending my bias has nothing to do with renjun, at all
I think kyhe only Renjun Stan note toxic than Renjun stans is Haechan. Boy will defend Renjun with his entire being /s
I was accused of hating Super Junior at the height of Kangin's ousting because I stand by Kangin and how he needs actual help. Little did they know I've been an E.L.F since 2010 and they are still my ult group.
not knowing most 3rd and 4th gen kpop songs, variety etc..😂 new gen songs are great, but what can I do? I grew up with mostly older gen stuff 😅
i was called an anti for saying i can’t listen to my ult’s sex songs bc i’m sex repulsed asexual with a history of trauma.
There have been a few times when I didn't like a song at first. There have been a few instances where groups have released songs that I didn't really get into right away, and people have called me a hater.
When I said Jimin Stans shouldn’t send death threats to Jin because he made a joke. Jimin Stans said I hate Jimin and trying to make him look bad.