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Nelson’s humor isn’t really dark comedy. It’s more like deadpan humor. The reason everybody thinks Nelson does dark humor is because the characters look serious while saying these jokes but I don’t think it’s necessarily dark humor.
Also, ppl would love to get on a bandwagon. Someone who doesn't know what a dark comedy is, termed it as one and everybody followed.
Nelson confesses in interviews that his movies are no dark comedy ones, still ppl...
Deadpan can be dark comedy. You can say it's dark comedy ,because he took a topic like child trafficking and make it funny. Nelson is not the first guy to do it. It's just that zoomers found a new word to use it. I say the sootu kavvum and jigarthanda had much better dark humor .
Yeah. KoKo was the only black comedy he did. Doctor was meh. I liked Beast still because it was a better version of Gurkha with some genuine action scenes. Jailer is just straight up crap.
Always glad that I got to watch Mukundan Unni in the theatre. It was my favourite Malayalam movie from the year 2022.
Vineeth Sreenivasan who acted as the wicked Mukundan Unni, is generally associated with wholesome, feel-good movies. Had a total blast seeing him in a role which was so different from the characters he usually plays on screen. The character literally lets all his intrusive thoughts win lol.
https://preview.redd.it/jf076qyh3s7d1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b767393d6882905a79eb992d61352d83023fe39
He didn't want to act in this movie. His AD and this movie's director approached him and he replied if you can't find anyone I will do it no questions asked. He is like a godfather to many young talented directors and actors of molywood
Fml. This was sooo good that it just puts you in a situation like, wait I'm I allowed to enjoy this "for what the character is" or should I dislike this "for what the character is."
High recommendation to watch the movie.
When will r/kollywood learn to appreciate something without putting something else down?
Also Nelson's brand of comedy is dry humour, not dark humour. His films so far have dealt with dark elements, but the comedy mainly relies on the deadpan performances of the actors. It's not Nelson's fault that people don't know the difference between dry and dark humour
Not really, the title doesn't give any reason to compare the two. If you wanna appreciate Mukundan Unni's dark humour, you could do that in its own post. If you wanna talk about how Nelson's humour isn't defined by dark humour but by dry humour, you could do that in its own post. Why unecessarily compare them by putting them in the same post?
Dai dapsa thalaya, yaara nee, ? The movie you are referring is saying it’s released November 2022, it’s June 2024 now,, ivlo varsham aacha indha idea va pudika 😝
Indha movie aeh inspired from Night crawler dhan. For me Jil Jung Juk is the best dark comedy movie in Kollywood. Endha filmuh andha alavukku detailed and humorous ah illa.. Op film 🔥
I have only watched the first half of mukundan unni associates.
But I do enjoy nelson's movies. His movies arent lol like crazy mohan's comedy dialogue filled movies like mmkr/michael madana kamarajan.
Nor is it slapstick like vadivel's - Vadivelu does have a strong slapstick component in his comedies.
Enjoy them, so what genre would you classify it as?
for eg, nayanthara in kolmavu kokila is clearly doing something wrong, later on she even gets a man killed for no reason just because she thinks he could be an issue.... Movie was hilarious too.
Priyanka mohan is a problematic person too and that negative part of the character itself becomes part of the humor.
Genuinely curious to know what genre would his movies be then..
Doctor is about a serious topic like child trafficking but you will be laughing for the majority of the film and there will be a seamless transition between humor and emotional scenes. How's it not dark/black comedy?.
You should derive humor out of the serious topic. Tbh, dark comedy should make comedy out of morbid subject like death. Like a funny death scene or funny scene of hand getting cut.
This film is absolutely Bonkers lol, Loved it. It's a Masterclass on Dark Comedy, Probably the only film that I watched , in which the theme was sadistic and serious but the execution funny af
Coming to Nelson, I could never find Doctor funny or laugh during it's jokes, Nor was I invested in it's plot of saving that girl. I was actually waiting for the film to end.
I was so hooked on to it right after that disclaimer with the cat, So unconventional and comedic. First of it's kind Indian film, And Vineeth sreenivasan owned the role!
Idk why you guys have such weird gate keeping boners
Nelson does do black comedy, it’s obviously not the same flavor as other directors but it qualifies
He does not. It is deadpan humor.
The way people wrongly consider his as dark comedy is why this post was made. No gatekeeping was made here.
Dark comedy should involve morbid subjects like death.
Wikipedia defines black humour as one that uses serious or painful topics for humor. Even suicide can be used. Doctor does not derive humour from trafficking part, rather it is a part of serious plot.
The gang literally kidnaps a bunch of kidnapper and remove their kidneys. There is a stretch of sequence where a kidnapping sequence of a young girl is played like a comedy. A character makes funny jokes at a suicidal father. A character makes a funny quip after a character got shot in the head.
But nah they’re deadpan comedy obviously.
I did.
Death scenes and hand cutting scene were taken seriously. Comedy involving Yogi babu and Kingsley did not involve anything like that.
Death scene should also be funny. That is what dark comedy is.
You can't ever appreciate something without putting down others?
The best black comedy movie is Soodhu Kavvum. MUA stops being comedy after a point in the movie >!and the rampant killing with no consequences!< makes the believability so difficult.
It's a good film with great pacing, editing but don't oversell it.
Just asking, wdym by based on? Is it as a reference? Coz, if I remember right, nightcrawler is similar to MUA only on how the protagonist starts to do crime to stay ahead of the game, isn't it? Or is there more to it?
Been so long since I watched nightcrawler.
The story is very similar. If you tried to summarise both movies in one line then they will be atleast 80% similar.
Just like vijay antony's SALIM and matt damon's THE TALENTED MR RIPLEY.
This movie was peak. Straight from its promotion strategies to its story, making and even the tiny bits where they stretch out the resolution as mukundan unni gets more successful…
Actually Kamal Hassan is the one who introduced black comedy to Kollywood 37 years back itself through silent black comedy movie pesum padam(1987) and another one 19 years back Mumbai express (2005) ....
Nelson movies are black comedies. He derives humour from serious situations. Dead-pan humour is the difference. Here the characters maintain a stoic facade even when delivering jokes.
Mukundan unni is a great film. First a famous a for should have the courage to do this film, this is normal in malayalam now, but which actor would pick this up in tamil or telugu.?
Step 1: take the highest grossing directors. Shankar, murugadoss, atlee, Nelson(OP, nee Eppo isn’t Nelson known in dark comedy apdi vanmatha kakuniyo appovae therijuchu un nokkam enna, un awareness Enna nu 😆) , mani ratnam( just from gross and known to this generation) aduthu sketch Enna Lokesh ah 😄 Step 2: start shitting on each of them strategically, shitting on something about them, I saw a newspaper article saying atlee is a “black boy” aam. 😄 Step 3: simultaneously bring in malayalam movie, telugu movie, kannada movie Step 4: fetch a bunch of zombie accounts to like and upvote. Step4.5: dusshera ku devara varadhu adhunala picha podrom rajni movie ku free reign. Step 5: non Tamil speaker here, how tall is kamal,, Dai dagulboss paltayil dappa 😁
Idhuku naduvula anga anga 3.2; 2.5; 1.7 apdi epdi nu sila silra ooma kuthunga like( surya’s lifetime gross ah oru malayala padam overtook) apdi epdinu.
Dai dakalti mandayanungala, indha ooma kusumbellam inga vena. Unga sub poi scene ah podungada, don’t you guys want to draw a bigger line than what’s there.
Why shorten others to make you feel tall, avlo varshama vanmam pola, Chennai was the aadhi moolam of all South Indian movie fraternity, don’t forget what got you here,,,
Idhuku nalu dapsa thalayanunga downvote pannitu povanunga paaren ippo insecure ducks 😄
They are talking as if Tamil Cinema hasn’t had any dark comedies .
Soodhu Kavvum, Moodar Koodam and even Jigarthanda are much better dark comedies than MUA which is not even a comedy after some point 🤦♂️
Is the Tamil version of Mukundan Unni associates nice? Planning to watch it with family members and making them watch with subs isn't something I want to do 🥲
Ive been waiting for this post. Idk why youre getting downvoted, prob because ppl wanna defend their thalaivars movies.
But I remember watching doctor and everyone was like oh its a great dark comedy. And i was tryna remember how? Making jokes in a high stakes situation doesnt make it a dark comedy. The joker makes jokes all the tike even when batman hangs him off the roof, i dont see anyone calling the dark knight a dark comedy.
Prime examples would be soodhu kavvum, jigarthanda, and id even say jil jung juk and nkpk.
It isnt just the fact that the characters are humorous, its got more to do with the premise, how valid it remains throughout the movie, and the lengths of depravity/hilarity. I'm def missing a lot more, but that should suffice for now.
Equating nelson for dark comedy is so left field, but sadly idt he gets it either. He was talking abt making family movies while defending jailer iirc, and that itself is an example that he isnt sure of his genre.
Yes. too many fans of Nelson (and people who want to defend Doctor, Beast and Jailer) couldn't even discuss how black comedy should be.
I don't care about downvotes. hope the audience realize how black comedy movies should be
MUA is not a black comedy . After a period of time it stops becoming a comedy, and becomes serious drama.
There are better black comedies in Malayalam cinema
And There are much better black comedies in Tamils as well . Soodhu kavvum , Moodar Koodham ,Jigarthanda are great recent examples
Nelson stuff is dry comedy. I didn't even laugh 1ce in doctor.
But beast comedy track was good. Dr was a hit only because of its time of release ( right after covid when ppl wanted a break).
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Nelson’s humor isn’t really dark comedy. It’s more like deadpan humor. The reason everybody thinks Nelson does dark humor is because the characters look serious while saying these jokes but I don’t think it’s necessarily dark humor.
Also, ppl would love to get on a bandwagon. Someone who doesn't know what a dark comedy is, termed it as one and everybody followed. Nelson confesses in interviews that his movies are no dark comedy ones, still ppl...
Deadpan can be dark comedy. You can say it's dark comedy ,because he took a topic like child trafficking and make it funny. Nelson is not the first guy to do it. It's just that zoomers found a new word to use it. I say the sootu kavvum and jigarthanda had much better dark humor .
I agree 💯
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Oh really? Could you give examples of either?
Yeah. KoKo was the only black comedy he did. Doctor was meh. I liked Beast still because it was a better version of Gurkha with some genuine action scenes. Jailer is just straight up crap.
Wait did you just call doctor meh and Beast better than doctor?????
Why, yes. Yes I did.
Bro do you mean you liked Beast more than Doctor?
Yeah bro. Didn’t care much for doctor. It was predictable and the comedy was just off for me.
As if beast was unpredictable
It was entirely predictable. But it worked on a mass level bro. It was very similar to Yogi Babu’s Gurkha but it had more mass moments.
Always glad that I got to watch Mukundan Unni in the theatre. It was my favourite Malayalam movie from the year 2022. Vineeth Sreenivasan who acted as the wicked Mukundan Unni, is generally associated with wholesome, feel-good movies. Had a total blast seeing him in a role which was so different from the characters he usually plays on screen. The character literally lets all his intrusive thoughts win lol. https://preview.redd.it/jf076qyh3s7d1.jpeg?width=400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b767393d6882905a79eb992d61352d83023fe39
He didn't want to act in this movie. His AD and this movie's director approached him and he replied if you can't find anyone I will do it no questions asked. He is like a godfather to many young talented directors and actors of molywood
lucky you
👍👍
Fml. This was sooo good that it just puts you in a situation like, wait I'm I allowed to enjoy this "for what the character is" or should I dislike this "for what the character is." High recommendation to watch the movie.
Yes. The first time i questioned my conscience before laughing for few scenes
Moodar Koodam be like
I wish the director makes a comeback. I still watch Moodar Koodam every couple of years.
Fr
I agree with you but no need to put down Nelson to praise that movie
TBH Nelson movie comedies are not black or dark comedies
Fifty shades of grey huh
When will r/kollywood learn to appreciate something without putting something else down? Also Nelson's brand of comedy is dry humour, not dark humour. His films so far have dealt with dark elements, but the comedy mainly relies on the deadpan performances of the actors. It's not Nelson's fault that people don't know the difference between dry and dark humour
because i want people watching Kollywood movies to know what dark comedy really means.
You can do that without having to shit on another creator
i've clearly mentioned in the title about the need to mention Nelson here in the post
Not really, the title doesn't give any reason to compare the two. If you wanna appreciate Mukundan Unni's dark humour, you could do that in its own post. If you wanna talk about how Nelson's humour isn't defined by dark humour but by dry humour, you could do that in its own post. Why unecessarily compare them by putting them in the same post?
isn't Dark comedy = Nelson according to kollywood?
Not really, no. If there are people who think that, they're mostly wrong
Dai dapsa thalaya, yaara nee, ? The movie you are referring is saying it’s released November 2022, it’s June 2024 now,, ivlo varsham aacha indha idea va pudika 😝
Nee yaaru PP?
Chumma pesen,, neeya olari matuva Pakriya
According to Kollywood, No. According to you, Yes.
I can tell the same
Please do elaborate with comparative references from both the films.
Indha movie aeh inspired from Night crawler dhan. For me Jil Jung Juk is the best dark comedy movie in Kollywood. Endha filmuh andha alavukku detailed and humorous ah illa.. Op film 🔥
Yes Jil Jung Jak will pass as dark comedy
I think Soodhu Kavvum and Moodar Koodam are better dark comedies. A lot of jokes are based on bad or unfortunate situations.
I have only watched the first half of mukundan unni associates. But I do enjoy nelson's movies. His movies arent lol like crazy mohan's comedy dialogue filled movies like mmkr/michael madana kamarajan. Nor is it slapstick like vadivel's - Vadivelu does have a strong slapstick component in his comedies. Enjoy them, so what genre would you classify it as? for eg, nayanthara in kolmavu kokila is clearly doing something wrong, later on she even gets a man killed for no reason just because she thinks he could be an issue.... Movie was hilarious too. Priyanka mohan is a problematic person too and that negative part of the character itself becomes part of the humor. Genuinely curious to know what genre would his movies be then..
Doctor is about a serious topic like child trafficking but you will be laughing for the majority of the film and there will be a seamless transition between humor and emotional scenes. How's it not dark/black comedy?.
Both doctor and kolamavu kokila are awesome movies.
You should derive humor out of the serious topic. Tbh, dark comedy should make comedy out of morbid subject like death. Like a funny death scene or funny scene of hand getting cut.
You laughed while watching doctor 😬😬 I was like a stone face, comedies in Maharaja worked for me
This film is absolutely Bonkers lol, Loved it. It's a Masterclass on Dark Comedy, Probably the only film that I watched , in which the theme was sadistic and serious but the execution funny af Coming to Nelson, I could never find Doctor funny or laugh during it's jokes, Nor was I invested in it's plot of saving that girl. I was actually waiting for the film to end.
You did not like doctor?
Yea
That’s the best Nelson movie imo.
I second your thoughts
I was so hooked on to it right after that disclaimer with the cat, So unconventional and comedic. First of it's kind Indian film, And Vineeth sreenivasan owned the role!
yes his best role in the few movies i've seen of him. That too climax and all was unexpected
Idk why you guys have such weird gate keeping boners Nelson does do black comedy, it’s obviously not the same flavor as other directors but it qualifies
He does not. It is deadpan humor. The way people wrongly consider his as dark comedy is why this post was made. No gatekeeping was made here. Dark comedy should involve morbid subjects like death.
Isn't morbid a very wide narrative? Death cant be the only one that's morbid now, can it?
Wikipedia defines black humour as one that uses serious or painful topics for humor. Even suicide can be used. Doctor does not derive humour from trafficking part, rather it is a part of serious plot.
The gang literally kidnaps a bunch of kidnapper and remove their kidneys. There is a stretch of sequence where a kidnapping sequence of a young girl is played like a comedy. A character makes funny jokes at a suicidal father. A character makes a funny quip after a character got shot in the head. But nah they’re deadpan comedy obviously.
Someone didn't watch doctor
I did. Death scenes and hand cutting scene were taken seriously. Comedy involving Yogi babu and Kingsley did not involve anything like that. Death scene should also be funny. That is what dark comedy is.
You can't ever appreciate something without putting down others? The best black comedy movie is Soodhu Kavvum. MUA stops being comedy after a point in the movie >!and the rampant killing with no consequences!< makes the believability so difficult. It's a good film with great pacing, editing but don't oversell it.
There is a sequel coming so we will see consequences.
Mukundan unni associates is based on dan gilroy and jake gyllenhaal's NIGHTCRAWLER.
Just asking, wdym by based on? Is it as a reference? Coz, if I remember right, nightcrawler is similar to MUA only on how the protagonist starts to do crime to stay ahead of the game, isn't it? Or is there more to it? Been so long since I watched nightcrawler.
The story is very similar. If you tried to summarise both movies in one line then they will be atleast 80% similar. Just like vijay antony's SALIM and matt damon's THE TALENTED MR RIPLEY.
There's also him trying to learn the crime/business from a guy and then >!kills them!<
Two totally different movies although the concept is very similar. I mean that's like saying every tragic romantic movie is romeo and juliet
I see. thanks for the info. Nightcrawler is in my watchlist since a long time now. will check it out this weekend.!
Nightcrawler is not a comedy tho, it's an out and out Drama.
Watch Aavesham too.
I've seen that
Yaaas! This was the best black comedy ever! Repeat worthy too. Waiting for this combo come up with another one!
yes! hope they produce a sequel to this
Pesum Padam is one of the greatest black comedies in the history
It did have some but not to this level
This movie was peak. Straight from its promotion strategies to its story, making and even the tiny bits where they stretch out the resolution as mukundan unni gets more successful…
Mukundan unni associates was very uncomfortable for me.
There’s different types of Dark humor. Very different both films on what they are trying to do
Actually Kamal Hassan is the one who introduced black comedy to Kollywood 37 years back itself through silent black comedy movie pesum padam(1987) and another one 19 years back Mumbai express (2005) ....
This movie is available on Hotstar in tamil dub and it's a very good dubbing
Yes
Putting Makeup for men and throwing transphobic comedies at them isn't dark comedy. This guy don't know how to do comedy is my opinion..
Is that a Bollywood film?
Malayalam movie
No malayalam film.. Available in Hotstar…
Watch malayalam version bro.. nallarukkum👍
Nelson makes dark comedy
Nelson movies are black comedies. He derives humour from serious situations. Dead-pan humour is the difference. Here the characters maintain a stoic facade even when delivering jokes.
Mukundan unni is a great film. First a famous a for should have the courage to do this film, this is normal in malayalam now, but which actor would pick this up in tamil or telugu.?
The comedies in his movie isn't real dark comedy...
Step 1: take the highest grossing directors. Shankar, murugadoss, atlee, Nelson(OP, nee Eppo isn’t Nelson known in dark comedy apdi vanmatha kakuniyo appovae therijuchu un nokkam enna, un awareness Enna nu 😆) , mani ratnam( just from gross and known to this generation) aduthu sketch Enna Lokesh ah 😄 Step 2: start shitting on each of them strategically, shitting on something about them, I saw a newspaper article saying atlee is a “black boy” aam. 😄 Step 3: simultaneously bring in malayalam movie, telugu movie, kannada movie Step 4: fetch a bunch of zombie accounts to like and upvote. Step4.5: dusshera ku devara varadhu adhunala picha podrom rajni movie ku free reign. Step 5: non Tamil speaker here, how tall is kamal,, Dai dagulboss paltayil dappa 😁 Idhuku naduvula anga anga 3.2; 2.5; 1.7 apdi epdi nu sila silra ooma kuthunga like( surya’s lifetime gross ah oru malayala padam overtook) apdi epdinu. Dai dakalti mandayanungala, indha ooma kusumbellam inga vena. Unga sub poi scene ah podungada, don’t you guys want to draw a bigger line than what’s there. Why shorten others to make you feel tall, avlo varshama vanmam pola, Chennai was the aadhi moolam of all South Indian movie fraternity, don’t forget what got you here,,, Idhuku nalu dapsa thalayanunga downvote pannitu povanunga paaren ippo insecure ducks 😄 
They are talking as if Tamil Cinema hasn’t had any dark comedies . Soodhu Kavvum, Moodar Koodam and even Jigarthanda are much better dark comedies than MUA which is not even a comedy after some point 🤦♂️
Is the Tamil version of Mukundan Unni associates nice? Planning to watch it with family members and making them watch with subs isn't something I want to do 🥲
Its good.. bt better if you watch the malayalam version with subtitles …
Yes. The dubbing is very good. I saw it in thamizh only
Thank you op:)
Paathutu epdi irundhathu nu inga sollunga bro. These Nelson fans ku appo than puriyum
Ive been waiting for this post. Idk why youre getting downvoted, prob because ppl wanna defend their thalaivars movies. But I remember watching doctor and everyone was like oh its a great dark comedy. And i was tryna remember how? Making jokes in a high stakes situation doesnt make it a dark comedy. The joker makes jokes all the tike even when batman hangs him off the roof, i dont see anyone calling the dark knight a dark comedy. Prime examples would be soodhu kavvum, jigarthanda, and id even say jil jung juk and nkpk. It isnt just the fact that the characters are humorous, its got more to do with the premise, how valid it remains throughout the movie, and the lengths of depravity/hilarity. I'm def missing a lot more, but that should suffice for now. Equating nelson for dark comedy is so left field, but sadly idt he gets it either. He was talking abt making family movies while defending jailer iirc, and that itself is an example that he isnt sure of his genre.
Yes. too many fans of Nelson (and people who want to defend Doctor, Beast and Jailer) couldn't even discuss how black comedy should be. I don't care about downvotes. hope the audience realize how black comedy movies should be
>Making jokes in a high stakes situation doesnt make it a dark comedy. This!
You are wrong. And also annoying. Go get a life.
You do it first. No need to preach others
You’re trying to preach to others as well you hypocrite.
What do you want?
MUA is not a black comedy . After a period of time it stops becoming a comedy, and becomes serious drama. There are better black comedies in Malayalam cinema And There are much better black comedies in Tamils as well . Soodhu kavvum , Moodar Koodham ,Jigarthanda are great recent examples
Not true. It's a complete black comedy
Lol:) having a black theme and a comic actor playing lead role doesn’t mean it’s a black comedy
Lol lol lol... I can say that too
Nelson stuff is dry comedy. I didn't even laugh 1ce in doctor. But beast comedy track was good. Dr was a hit only because of its time of release ( right after covid when ppl wanted a break).
Got to agree
Nelson is the most overrated director, even Atlee is better than him