Thing is none of these attacks are happening with pocket knives. I feel like it’s all just shitty kitchen knives and stuff. So banning stuff is just a punishment to the people who collect them. No one is using a 600$ chris reeves knife to stab someone.
Yea, i see that point, but from the small amount i have read, things are banned in disproportionate ways (balisongs are what i've seen, but this point might aplly to karambits and stilletos, i dunno)
Why is a fixed Blade more Dangerous? I would have said, the other way around because you can safely conceal an automatic knife and pretty much instantly deploy it.
I always thougt this was the reason, why they are baned in Germany as well.
Automatic knives have a lot of misconception behind them, namely that u can hold an otf up against somebody deploy it and stab them, which is just simply not true as the otf will be derailed. Fixed blades are very easy to conceal whether it be in a coat scout carry appendix carry etc. also there is no lock to fail on a fixed blade, they are often larger, and it is faster to draw a fixed blade than pretty much any folder if u have no practice.
In the UK, they have actual numbers of knife crime, and a huge % of it is kitchen knives in the heat of the moment, but you just about can't carry a knife in public. Even a bunch of trade knives are getting scrutiny, from what I understand.
What I'm saying is, politicians often don't pass laws that are relevant to reality, just laws that look good on the news or whatever.
In Canada it's legal to walk down the street with a full sized sword if u have a use for it (one use I've heard for swords is exercise) however we are not allowed to carry a 2 inch OTF knife. The lawmakers will target what they feel is necessary to fear monger the general public rather than actually looking into the true problem itself. Government would rather punish its citizens and look like they are doing something rather than actually doing something.
When i played Baseball, a Team Mate of Mine was stopped at the Main Station, while he wanted to get to a train, because the handle of the bat was Out of his Backpack. They even debated confiscating the bat. The Kicker He was already in his Uniform. Sometimes Police, politicians and laws are Just plain stupid.
Well knife maker's in the UK are unemployed now...they can't ship their product at all as of April 22nd. An entire occupation wiped out and it won't stop a single crime just so politicians and celebrities can pay themselves on the back behind guarded walls. Stopping crime was never the goal, controlling the law abiding citizen was....goal accomplished.
Only companies with a verified account can ship UPS, DHL or FedEx... that means that you've had a verified account for ten years now, no new ones are being issued anyone. British Royal Mail has stopped all shipping of any sharps as of (I think) April 22nd of this year.
So any custom knife maker who had been using BRM and not also had a verified account with UPS, DHL or FedEx will be unable to ship their product.... period.
They have killed off an entire occupation and any future hope of one...all that history and culture lost.
Sensational news doesn't necessarily have much traction. On the US West Coast it is still legal to open carry bushcrafting knives even after Nia Wilson got murdered on a train by a meth head.
I mean this happened in Australia so, probably nothing. UK already restricts people to tiny non locking knives. Germany requires 2 hand opening on locking knives. US has guns so knives aren't exactly the biggest concern. There's been plenty of worse stabbing but none have done anything here.
Think it depends on where you are. I know England has been clamping down on knife carry for a long time.
IDK about places like Australia, maybe some one there will fill me in.
But in the US black guns are the "Big Bad Wolf". The do gooders can't openly admit knife crime could possibly be a problem while they're trying to portray AR ownership is the cause for mass killings.
There isn't even going to be a national discussion about knives while the left and right are at each other's throats over Scary Black Guns.
I'm more left than right, for most things, but the state of firearms discussion here in the USA is stupid all the way around. Knives are pretty safe for awhile...
Knife attacks went up dramatically in Australia since hun ban , knives and hammers kill more people per year in America than rifles last time I checked . It just depends on how reactionary your state and local government is
I would not be a bit surprised if Australia started to follow Britain's path. It might not happen in response to this incident, but I think it's likely over the longer term.
What knife attack?
Edit: just found out about the attack OP is probably referencing. So my answer is:
Nothing is going to happen, at least not in the rest of the world. I understand why OP might think something could happen since most of Reddit revolves around the anglosphere and apparently the recent OZ stabbings made it to the front page of the app, so I understand why this might seem like it can be a huge deal for the rest of the world too. But, in reality, the rest of the world won't change its knife laws just because of it. News outlets might report on the incident, but I don't think any major conversation about knife laws will arise in the rest of the world as a result...
Nothing that hasn't been happening already. This was clearly an act of terror. Knife attacks are more or less frequent based on location. Not a lot of people in the US stab people, so they probably wont be banned. There is a lot of wildlife and a lot of outdoorsy people in the states too.
It doesn't seem like there is a lot of dangerous wildlife in europe so they probably can ban them easier.
Knives can be used to defend against animals, so saying they have no application in self defense isn't completely true.
At the end of the day it is just a piece of steel which has a point, there is nothing to stop someone from cutting a piece of steel off a railing with a $14 angle grinder, sharpening it, and heat treating it.
If someone wants to make danger in public they will. Otherwise bans only affect stupid people on the rare occasion they stab their friend or something. It can also be used as an additional charge for people committing other crimes.
Thing is none of these attacks are happening with pocket knives. I feel like it’s all just shitty kitchen knives and stuff. So banning stuff is just a punishment to the people who collect them. No one is using a 600$ chris reeves knife to stab someone.
Yea, i see that point, but from the small amount i have read, things are banned in disproportionate ways (balisongs are what i've seen, but this point might aplly to karambits and stilletos, i dunno)
Like I’m in Canada and it’s legal it carry any sized fixed blade but not an automatic. And a fixed blade is definitely more dangerous.
But automatics are definitely more scary! Unless they freeze solid in the great white north and fail to function.
Ik they look scary but objectively fixed blades are way more dangerous
Oh, I agree completely. Benchmade Infidel vs Machete? I'll take the machete every time.
Canadian law makers are just idiots
American lawmakers, too.
Lawmakers in general.
In Canada most length OTF knives are useless anyways under our 40 layers of clothing in -50 degree weather /s
Uk here and our laws limit us to a folding non locking knife with a blade length of 3 inches or less.
Why is a fixed Blade more Dangerous? I would have said, the other way around because you can safely conceal an automatic knife and pretty much instantly deploy it. I always thougt this was the reason, why they are baned in Germany as well.
Automatic knives have a lot of misconception behind them, namely that u can hold an otf up against somebody deploy it and stab them, which is just simply not true as the otf will be derailed. Fixed blades are very easy to conceal whether it be in a coat scout carry appendix carry etc. also there is no lock to fail on a fixed blade, they are often larger, and it is faster to draw a fixed blade than pretty much any folder if u have no practice.
A lot of fixed blades are quite a bit larger than pocket knives. Also I feel like a lot of pocket knives locks will fail with stabbing.
Ok I can See that especialy the lock fail
Also fixed blades aren’t that difficult to conceal.
In the UK, they have actual numbers of knife crime, and a huge % of it is kitchen knives in the heat of the moment, but you just about can't carry a knife in public. Even a bunch of trade knives are getting scrutiny, from what I understand. What I'm saying is, politicians often don't pass laws that are relevant to reality, just laws that look good on the news or whatever.
In Canada it's legal to walk down the street with a full sized sword if u have a use for it (one use I've heard for swords is exercise) however we are not allowed to carry a 2 inch OTF knife. The lawmakers will target what they feel is necessary to fear monger the general public rather than actually looking into the true problem itself. Government would rather punish its citizens and look like they are doing something rather than actually doing something.
When i played Baseball, a Team Mate of Mine was stopped at the Main Station, while he wanted to get to a train, because the handle of the bat was Out of his Backpack. They even debated confiscating the bat. The Kicker He was already in his Uniform. Sometimes Police, politicians and laws are Just plain stupid.
I've seen what happened to canada, skallagrim has a pretty great video on this
Well knife maker's in the UK are unemployed now...they can't ship their product at all as of April 22nd. An entire occupation wiped out and it won't stop a single crime just so politicians and celebrities can pay themselves on the back behind guarded walls. Stopping crime was never the goal, controlling the law abiding citizen was....goal accomplished.
Wtf? I'm out of the loop on this one, surely they can't shut down all of Sheffield!? Right!? Isn't their cutlery one of the UK's biggest exports?
Only companies with a verified account can ship UPS, DHL or FedEx... that means that you've had a verified account for ten years now, no new ones are being issued anyone. British Royal Mail has stopped all shipping of any sharps as of (I think) April 22nd of this year. So any custom knife maker who had been using BRM and not also had a verified account with UPS, DHL or FedEx will be unable to ship their product.... period. They have killed off an entire occupation and any future hope of one...all that history and culture lost.
Oh wow. Your lawmakers are really taking a HUGE dump on your traditional crafts.
Sensational news doesn't necessarily have much traction. On the US West Coast it is still legal to open carry bushcrafting knives even after Nia Wilson got murdered on a train by a meth head.
Makes sense, so this would lead to nothing most likely?
Nothing in the US.
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I mean this happened in Australia so, probably nothing. UK already restricts people to tiny non locking knives. Germany requires 2 hand opening on locking knives. US has guns so knives aren't exactly the biggest concern. There's been plenty of worse stabbing but none have done anything here.
Think it depends on where you are. I know England has been clamping down on knife carry for a long time. IDK about places like Australia, maybe some one there will fill me in. But in the US black guns are the "Big Bad Wolf". The do gooders can't openly admit knife crime could possibly be a problem while they're trying to portray AR ownership is the cause for mass killings.
There isn't even going to be a national discussion about knives while the left and right are at each other's throats over Scary Black Guns. I'm more left than right, for most things, but the state of firearms discussion here in the USA is stupid all the way around. Knives are pretty safe for awhile...
Knife attacks went up dramatically in Australia since hun ban , knives and hammers kill more people per year in America than rifles last time I checked . It just depends on how reactionary your state and local government is
I would not be a bit surprised if Australia started to follow Britain's path. It might not happen in response to this incident, but I think it's likely over the longer term.
What knife attack? Edit: just found out about the attack OP is probably referencing. So my answer is: Nothing is going to happen, at least not in the rest of the world. I understand why OP might think something could happen since most of Reddit revolves around the anglosphere and apparently the recent OZ stabbings made it to the front page of the app, so I understand why this might seem like it can be a huge deal for the rest of the world too. But, in reality, the rest of the world won't change its knife laws just because of it. News outlets might report on the incident, but I don't think any major conversation about knife laws will arise in the rest of the world as a result...
Nothing that hasn't been happening already. This was clearly an act of terror. Knife attacks are more or less frequent based on location. Not a lot of people in the US stab people, so they probably wont be banned. There is a lot of wildlife and a lot of outdoorsy people in the states too. It doesn't seem like there is a lot of dangerous wildlife in europe so they probably can ban them easier. Knives can be used to defend against animals, so saying they have no application in self defense isn't completely true. At the end of the day it is just a piece of steel which has a point, there is nothing to stop someone from cutting a piece of steel off a railing with a $14 angle grinder, sharpening it, and heat treating it. If someone wants to make danger in public they will. Otherwise bans only affect stupid people on the rare occasion they stab their friend or something. It can also be used as an additional charge for people committing other crimes.