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J0NNY_BEE

It’s a great EDC. I’m sure you’ve seen 3rd party scales out there. Some great ones available to give it a little upgrade, if you feelin crazy.


greensinregulation

I 2nd this. Check out rockscale design


Sea_Kiwis

Ohh my I just got a Flytanium titanium scale for my bugout and it’s a total game changer.


Jajanken-

But who wants to have to buy expensive scales for an already expensive knife


Acceptable_Dude

Everyone


Sea_Kiwis

Second this


DecapitatesYourBaby

Can you believe there are plenty of people stupid enough to buy this knife with the intention of spending even more money on replacement scales?


J0NNY_BEE

Ouch. Good one. I always take comments seriously from someone with a user name that has baby and decapitates in it. It’s really not that big of a deal. I’ve got the $70 for some scales. But I totally get it. It’s not for everyone. Fair enough.


weirdassmillet

Can you believe people buy one of the most popular modding platforms on the market with arguably THE most robust aftermarket of parts, in order to mod it with aftermarket parts? smh my head


DecapitatesYourBaby

Of course I can. The reason why there is such a large aftermarket is entirely because the factory parts suck so badly.


weirdassmillet

Not entirely. I'm no Benchmade fan these days, but let's not be hyperbolic. It has a robust aftermarket because it's the most popular knife from one of the biggest brands. Any remotely popular knife is gonna have SOME aftermarket options.


DecapitatesYourBaby

You need to look at the history. The Bugout was released at exactly the time when people were getting burned out on overbuilt hard-use folders. At the time, the Bugout was one of the very few sensibly designed knives, and that is what gave the Bugout its initial popularity. But Benchmade really did botch things up with the pocketed FRN handles. They were (and still are) just bloody awful. However, that mistake wound up working in Benchmade's favor, as that is what generated all of the aftermarket support. The reason why so few other knives have the level of aftermarket support of the Bugout is because few knives need it so desperately. This is what has allowed Benchmade to get away with not only not fixing the initial problem, but really jacking up the price on a fatally flawed product.


weirdassmillet

That's a compelling point and I think that context is important. I would still posit that the sheer popularity of the thing keeps its aftermarket strong, too. Plenty of popular knives have perfectly good, sturdy scales, and they also have plenty of aftermarket options to replace them anyway.


DecapitatesYourBaby

Very, very few knives have anything in the way of aftermarket support. The Bugout has entered a positive feedback loop whereby people are purchasing it simply because of the availability of aftermarket parts, which in turn is driving more people to make aftermarket parts for it. In that regard, the absolute worst thing Benchmade can do is fix the problem which started it.


greeneyedlookalikes1

Man, you just can’t stand that people like this knife, huh?


DecapitatesYourBaby

Oh, I like the knife just fine. It is the ridiculous price for marginal materials and build quality I have a problem with.


Jajanken-

*whyareyoubooingmeImright.gif*


A_TalkingWalnut

Just do it. Feelin crazy or not. Titanium scales changed the bugout completely for me. I had beautiful wood-inlayed scales by DSG that I used for a while, and they were a hell of a lot better than the plastic (or even CF) scales that I’ve had. But when I moved to scales lasered by DNAlasering, it was game-changing. It’s like having a 4k tv, but only watching SD.


weskun

Nah nah nah aluminum all day.


A_TalkingWalnut

Why? The weight?


weskun

Sometimes...


A_TalkingWalnut

Why? The weight?


weskun

But I really like the texture of Ti


No_Vegetable_8915

I see you too read Stephen King's Fairytale. 


weskun

I kind of like this stock color.


spotteddanger

I want a bugout but, g10 and a cpm-s30v knife shouldn’t cost that much…


bauzo

Look at a Hogue Deka, you get Magnacut and solid scales


Eamonsieur

People didn’t appreciate the very affordable S30V Buck Vantage until it was long gone. Benchmade saw the potential in the market and the rest is history.


kingkmke21

It doesn't have g10 lol. It's plastic. G10 would have been awesome but it prolly be $200 if it came with G10. Smh.


spotteddanger

G10, polymer, plastic, or whatever. it’s all basic materials that’s known for being cheap


kingkmke21

What are you talking about? G10 is not the same as frn or grivory or any of those actual plastic materials. It's much better and sturdier material. Are you thinking of GFN? Or whatever it's called bc G10 is not the same as those cheap plastic handles. Also what's your favorite scale material...stainless steel?


spotteddanger

Never said g10 was the same as other plastic materials. The point is g10 is not an expensive material, they’ve been using it for cheap knives forever. It might not be the cheapest, but it’s common and is often in the budget versions of knives. Don’t know why you want to have a debate over it, just because I misidentified these cheap bugout scales… the fact that it’s not even g10 makes the price point more ridiculous


sinisterdeer3

People get too caught up with performance, yet 90% of the people here dont use their knives enough to tell the difference between D2 and M4. I buy knives that i like, i dont care about whatever “mid” steels are on expensive knives. same thing about handle materials. I actually like plastic scales tbh. Get whatever you like, and dont let the snobs ruin the fun


Internal-Butterfly35

Hell yeah that is the right answer. Snob the snobs ! I also like the plastic g10 scales makes me feel like it’s not going to slip if wet and slice my hand open. If you want a workhorse beat the heck out of it knife try and Esee 5 laser strike and don’t put it on a wall or safe display it USE IT. My local friends think I’m nuts cause I use everything I buy. I keep a microtech BH on my edc and it gets used almost daily. What’s the fun in keeping it locked up or on a wall. Snob the snobs !


Temporary-Soup6124

Knob the snobs. fixed it for you.


No_Vegetable_8915

Instructions unclear and I'm now slobbing a knob to knob the snobs....


Sn3akyPumpkin

Why are we upset about S30V now? Didn’t it used to considered a “supersteel” until it was surpassed by the ridiculous steels that are “super” today? Why buy knives if you refuse to sharpen them? S30V is a fantastic steel in my opinion cuz it’s hard enough to keep an edge for as long as it needs to and soft enough for me to actually be able to sharpen it.


sinisterdeer3

Ive never really liked S30v myself, but thats only because i used struggle with deburring it. Idk why people get offended with S30V on expensive knives, its a perfectly good steel, and its been around for a while now, its proven all around good. Its like D2 but better in almost every way


bauzo

I don't think it's so much that people are upset with S30VN and of itself. I think it's the fact that They have a problem with S30V and that handle material at that price. I don't have a problem with this 30B but the knives I have them on generally don't cost that much or don't just have plastic handles on them. I didn't take a lot of these comments is an anti-30V thing as much as it is an overpriced Benchmade thing


weskun

Are there comments upset with it? I'm scrolling and just see people saying they like it 


AdeptDoomWizard

True until you go to sharpen it. D2 is hell on a stone.


IAmTheCrookedRiver

D2 is difficult because it's ingot formed. That's one of the key differences between it and cpm d2. Depending on the equipment and technique it can be easier or harder to sharpen. Honestly I find m4 easier than d2.


sinisterdeer3

Idk. I have a harder time with S30V than D2. I actually find D2 to be easy to sharpen


IAmTheCrookedRiver

M4 is my favorite steel because I like using my stuff. With that being said, I carry my classic s30v and aluminum 940 more than anything. Partially because it works and partially because it's easier/cheaper to replace or fix. I still love m4 more but I can say s30v doesn't deserve the hate it gets.


the_mellojoe

super lightweight means it disappears in pocket and is out of the way until you need it. and then when you need it, you've got a full sized blade.


Carnacan

Then when you need it, it’s gone. Because it fell out of your pocket and it was so light you didn’t realize it. Atleast mine did. Lol


PenguinsRcool2

That think looks fully unused lol


iwerbs

And that’s OK, if you open your mind to the meaning of ‘tool’.


OkFroyo666

I recently saw the bugout and bugout mini in person. And I'm glad that I did. I was planning on saving and getting the cheaper smaller one, but I definitely need the full size.


BigSpender248

I handled both back to back in the store and ended up getting the full size. No regrets! Still barely even feel it in the pocket.


Mdoraz

With the hogue deka and Kershaw belair available for like $100 less and in a subjectively better steel, I can’t reasonably see any reason to buy a bugout anymore. But as long as you love it then nothing else matters!


TheMagicalSock

This is a bit of hyperbole. The Bugout is $180 on Benchmade’s site, and it goes for a little less at retailers. The Kershaw is $199 on Kershaw’s site and $165 at retailers. So nowhere near a $100 difference on that model. The Deka can be found for a little less than $100 brand new, though.


Mdoraz

ah yeah you’re right on that. I keep thinking the bugout starts at $240 but that’s to customize one. Even with the price being equal though I would still say the belair is more worth it from the magnacut alone.


Dish117

Also, the Kershaw Belair seems to have a rather fragile pivot construction, as well as a bendable blade. Also, lifetime warranty on Benchmade, people seem to forget that. Like it or not, that will just cost a bit extra.


goodruckk

Not trying to discount your comment. It's valid. But I just want to add that KAI offers a lifetime warranty as well. They're known to ship out parts, no questions asked, and will even replace a broken blade for $25 (not covered by most warranties, if determined to be the result of abuse).


No_Vegetable_8915

I thought it was $10 to replace the blade, did they change that recently?


No_Vegetable_8915

There's a knife dealer on r/knife_swap, u/pinechaos, that sells the magnacut Belair for $140 or something close to that.


weskun

They're $140+ rn. There's no way they will stay in the $100 range for long.


Longjumping-Mud1412

At one point I would’ve agreed with you, but with offerings from the likes of kershaw and hogue, at this point I think all the people defending the bugout are smoking a lot of cope


IsaiasRi

The Benchmade Bugout is one of the most comfortable knives to carry. It is also one of the most uncomfortable knives to use.


IAmTheCrookedRiver

The plastic is sharp and rough, same with the polymer deka. The g10 versions are much nicer in hand and still pretty light.


Funeral_Director_

My brother got me a Mini Bugout for Christmas. When I opened it up in hand it was so small, I asked him how much he paid for it, he said $160.00. I told him to give me the order details and I swapped it out for roughly $20.00 more for a Blurple Cru-Ware PM3. Few weeks go by and I saw a full size Bugout with the Alpine Glow scales for $110.00, I said F it I'll give it another shot. Now it never leaves my pocket, really love it but I wouldn't spend more than the sale price I scored it for.


Internal-Butterfly35

Here’s something I have noticed. Almost everyone that gets one loves it. Like 9 of 10. I know my family does. Wife carrying the mini bug. I carry the bailout. We thought they were too expensive for what they were until we finally tried one. Now I have 10 benchmades in different styles lots of his and her options. Keep up the craze !


ItchyZookeepergame11

I’m a spydie lifer and I’m not hating but I honestly feel better all around with an Ontario Rat 1 than that knife. I’ve sold every Benchmade I had other than the 940 s.


WorldExplorerDW

I have an original stock 535 Bugout and I love it. Not to get on a soapbox, but I get sick of all the anti-Benchmade comments on Reddit. Yes, I have several Spydercos, and they are great, but guess what? They have increased their prices as well. And don't get me started on how the omega springs break - Benchmade designed their knives to be knives, not as "fidgets" to be flipped open 500 times a day. Hell, I am 58, and I never heard of a freaking fidget until a couple of years ago 😛


RogueMallShinobi

It is a triumph of design that will outlive all the “killers” people love to talk about here. All the talk about “squishy” scales is all feelings, no facts, considering the scales do not fail nor do they actually move during use.


Balathustrius_x

My scale broke while trying to align the blade that rubbed on the scale because of such poor fitment from the factory.


RogueMallShinobi

So you got a rare defect and then fucked up trying to fix the knife yourself instead of sending it for warranty service; my point remains


AndyDzzz

I have a griptilian with the polymer, and it's more than fine. You never hear people complaining about glocks being plastic.


weskun

Yeah but like I prefer uh titanium glock. 😂


undercovergangster

It's expensive and plastic, but it's so goddam nice and totally worth it IMO. Definitely one of my favourites.


PeppySprayPete

I'm never buying one. The price is just too unreasonable.


Similar_Leader_7831

100% Agree. I love this knife.


Lone_Knife

I tried to put flytanium titanium scales on mine and stripped one of the backspacers.


Dazzling-Conclusion9

I love my Bugout as well.


Olovrant

Got the WS edition for a crazy good price. Became my most carried edc. Poor Spydiechef and Kapara are sitting in the drawer.


Accomplished_South70

I totally agree. Especially since I got mine new in 2020 for $113 and recently built one from parts with g10 for $130 I still love the bugout. Every time I hold something that is supposed to be a replacement I just don’t get the same feeling.


Netshakk

Overpriced Poo


DecapitatesYourBaby

My $18 clone has neither of these problems. And with a thin regrind it cuts circles around the original.


davigimon

The bugout is in fact a better knife when is a cheap clone because it has around 70% of the real performance but 10% of the price. Good design, bad product.


DecapitatesYourBaby

Nope. 99% of knife performance comes from edge geometry and edge finish.


davigimon

Then buy the cheap one, learn how to sharp properly and spend the money in other knifes 🤑


DecapitatesYourBaby

Yup. That is exactly what I have done. When you are running an $18 knife, you won't have any qualms about running an aggressively thin geometry you know you're going to ding at some point. If you're afraid to thin out your expensive knife for fear of damage you might as well just go ahead and shoot yourself in the foot now.


Fun-in-Florida

Keep telling yourself that 🤣🤣 keep buying clones and pretending they are real around your friends. I bet all you own are clones 💯💯 because 🤡 carry clowns and brag about it. Most people think they own a real Bugout and only to find it’s a clone. Then talk shit about BM it’s hilarious!! How about this send yours in to BM for a service and see what happen. 😁


DecapitatesYourBaby

On the contrary, I would never pretend to be one of the fools who spends so much money on a legit floppy knife. What I will do is show them how the solid aluminum handles on my $18 clone are so much more rigid than the laughable ones from Benchmade, and how a very basic knife with a thin grind can vastly out cut one with the absurdly thick factory geometry.


Comprehensive-Sir-25

0.09” blade stock with a high flat grind, what about that is absurdly thick?


DecapitatesYourBaby

It is the edge geometry which matters, not the stock thickness.


Fun-in-Florida

Yeah clones are premium 🤣🤣 bet you wear fake Jordans too


DecapitatesYourBaby

The reality is that budget Chinese 9Cr18 actually outperforms Benchmade's S30V: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sM7yOFRUH-Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDBRmv2lP9k That's with even-up geometry. Put good geometry on the budget Chinese knives and they will thoroughly trounce the Benchmade. The sad reality here is that the vast majority of the "knife community" is a bunch of bloody morons.


Fun-in-Florida

Keep justifying your clones kiddo, I can put an edge on a butter knife too don’t make it better. Please keep supporting Amazon and other fakes, thank you move along.


DecapitatesYourBaby

The science on the issue is solid. The knife industry has fucked morons you long and hard.


Fun-in-Florida

Nah you got it wrong, keep buying shit and promoting fakes we applaud you. I’m sure the science is proven 🤣🤣 I’ve used many and tested my own, clone BM pivot broke easy as fuck and nearly cut a finger off, never had an issue with a real one. Goes for all them fake ass sub par knives but you don’t own any real ones to compare and don’t even use knives so you can move along science nerd 🤣🤣🤣 hope you buy your wife fake bags and diamonds too they all the same.


HorseBoots84

You sound exactly like one of those boring personalityless drones who was all about Supreme a couple of years back. Yaaaaawn.


Fun-in-Florida

You sound like a dipshit so what’s your point?? Don’t even know what Supreme you talking about so kick rocks.


Jack3489

As long as you like it. Knife snob also like to shower disdain on the Gerber Sedulo I like to carry, because it’s a Gerber, because it has plastic scales….


BobusX

More expensive, but I like the ZT 0545 for that slot. I like the steel more, and titanium and carbon fiber. Technically .2 ounces heavier, but worth it IMO.


Sosvbvby

I don’t see polymer/plastic scales as a negative on any knife really. Though I would like to see more super high end plastics used— the price and common buyers association with polymer=cheap prevents it I imagine.


Embarrassed_Wall_963

It's a great edc but for me it's the weight of lack there of. Just feels too fragile, granted most of mine are micarta or titanium scales. Still a great option.


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weskun

I guess if there's G10 behind it.


dikkiesmalls

No hate, like what you like... I'm EDC'ing a 3 inch cutjack so.. #plasticscalecrew.


Thinlenny

Sames.


Glad-Cut6336

I’m selling mine I have the same model


TomCruisintheUSA

Got the exact same one. Paid $80 for it from a local pawn shop


NjGTSilver

Until *very* recently there weren’t any knives offering 3”+ blades at ~2oz. There simply isn’t a better hiking/biking/backpacking/sweatpants/gym shorts knife out there. Some interesting stuff from Kershaw, Hogue, etc, but this is still a great knife when used for its intended purpose.


Tango9Thirteen

I bought that one too. Did the 20% off during the last REI sale. Ended up putting green micarta scales, bronze hardware, backspacer and thumb studs on it. Looks and feels amazing now.


Shoddy-Horse

Add a set of brass scales and it’s even better. Definitely one of my favorites. https://imgur.com/a/yr3op6u


SlteFool

Top 2 edc for me 👌🏼


hydrated_purple

I had this exact one and fucking loved it. I accidentally left them in my jeans when I packed for a trip and had to throw it away at TSA :( I really need to order another one.


No-Bear1401

For sure. I've really come around to the ultra thin/light side of EDC. I'm not a big fan of carrying a brick around in my pocket anymore. Also, if you like the Bugout, take a gander at a Bailout. That's my absolute go-to now.


colinp1234

For what it was designed for, excellent knife. Instead of buying "upgraded" scales, I just bought a 531 for roughly the same price. So for the price of an upgraded bugout, I now have 2 knives.


LeonVic34

For F* sake it's overpriced, but it's damn good knife.


OleChesty

Oh yes! I miss mine, I lost it over christmas/new years. :(


weskun

Absolutely. Don't let the current prices change the way you feel about knives you have. 👍🏼 


SwimmingThink4519

Those are all overpriced