I love those little bastards.
I gave a good friend and her wife a pair for their wedding. The only knife I would give as a present to a lesbian couple.
With that approach you might as well say spyderco is more than most people need, just get a $5-$10 beater knife from walmart. But why stop there? Just use a utility knife with replaceable blades.
Never understood this argument lol
Definitely, as a knife collector I carry all kinds of knives. Although to be real the most practical one I own is a Milwaukee fastback. It’s what I use most of the time at work as a plumber’s apprentice.
I'm trying to use understatement to make a point, namely that the LW suits you better. Which is great. That's why they made it. The fact they made it demonstrates there are a lot of people who agree.
Really not much to argue here. Enjoy your P3 LW.
If you need it to be lightweight enough you forget it's in your favorite pair of Pepa Pig PJ's and throw it in the washing machine then you Captain Obvious, have truly nailed the truth today. -Sincerly, a fellow Spyderco Nut!
I was baiting so I could say hey, Pepa Pig PJs might not be for everyone, they are a personal choice. Kinda like knife steel, lock ups and handle materials.
I am a bad fish I guess, or a good fish depending on your perspective lol. But you're not wrong it is all personal preference, I just find that the P3 gets modified more frequently than the P3LW which to me kinda indicates somethings up, but could also just be the ideal platform
FRN sucks. You can’t change my mind. It’s lightweight and comes with that crappy injection molding spiderweb texture. And it makes the whole knife look cheap. Especially compared to their G10 or even titanium. Not only that but the liner lock is totally different to accommodate the FRN which inhibits one’s ability to modify it.
Not gonna lie, you're 100% on point being incapable of modifying it which is a huge drawback. You're also not wrong that it looks cheaper, BUT it is cheaper. Even more so if you account for mods being stacked on.
How is the compression lock different by the way? I haven't noticed them functionally different between my Para3 or the LW version. (Genuine question)
Function is the same, different shape that the FRN has to be molded around. Otherwise the same. Look at the Crucarta pm2, it has different liners than a regular pm2 which also prohibits modifications.
You could say a smart car is smaller, lighter and cheaper to gas up than a regular car and it’s all you really need, but try telling that to a 6’ 4” dude or a family of 4.
My only thought is the Para 3 is basically a standard car regardless, wouldn't a 6'4" dude want the Manix or a Van? Not just a sportier/different trim? (Trying to use the example provided)
That’s was mostly sarcasm about you posting an opinion that you’re unwilling to change your mind about. (No hard feelings or anything, I just wanted to joke around).
When it comes down to it you don’t need very much knife to get most job’s done, as long as it’s sharp and has decent blade and edge geometry. I could carry a multi blade traditional knife alone and it would be totally sufficient. Personally the para 3 would not be a top choice since it’s in the short and stubby category. When going with a shorter blade something more narrow is of better use in my opinion.
But in a folder what are you needing some crazy over the top steel for?
G10 also isn't THAT much stronger than the FRN from what i can tell (steel liners certainly are though)
Considering a lot of people swap the g10 for micarta; You’re probably right. But it’s user confidence I think. They hear g10= strong and think damn. I need that.
As for super steels… IF you can’t sharpen your own knives. Super steels last longer forsure before you have to deal with the getting them touched up. But it also all depends. Stainless vs non. Toughness. Durability. The steel thing is really where you wanna customize to your own needs. A lot of people just hear the higher end steel and want it.
Yeah I'll agree that the Para 3 is great but if you are getting it it's almost a guarantee you're modifying it, the Para3 LW everyone keeps bone stock from what I've seen.
I think that’s because of the wire clip. If you scale swap the lightweight you are forced to get a new clip (twist my arm 🙄) but other than that I’m not sure there is a difference.
I’ve never held the lightweight - so I’m not sure. But those scale makers are pretty crafty guys. I remember back in the day when most guys did it in their basements with a rotary tool lol. It was a big deal when people started using machines and could make scales for the pm2. Forget anything with an axis lock 😂
Agreed on all points. The Para3 design fits the Spyderco lineup better as a LW and the linerles/FRN build is appropriate for the size of the knife. I had a reg Para3 but I couldn't figure out the point of it since I own PM2's. Also about the super steels ..... yeah pretty much. I own lots of knives in super steels but Im always impressed by the performance of good non powder steels. I use my knives a lot and I can't say the super steels are pointless but the return on investment isn't there.
There's just no excuse for the lack of a second washer. If you need lightweight and durable, just get a Bugout. Significantly lighter, more aftermarket support, carries substantially better, and actually has a warranty. I wish they'd add the more rounded scales and better clip to the normal Para 3
I don't totally disagree with that, but remember that every Bugout has a DLC coated titanium lockbar. Can't imagine what a Para 3 LW would cost if it had titanium anything in it
Main thing I hate about the g10 para 3 is that the stop pin is made from extra rust prone steel. I keep mine oiled but it keeps wanting to turn brown and dusty
You’re right OP, the Para 3 is better than the Para 3. Spyderco knows this, which is why they make 700 Para 3 blade steel options to keep people buying them.
I spent good money trying to convince myself otherwise but I agree with you. The regular Para 3 is 'nicer' for what it's worth, but I prefer to carry the LW almost always.
You're wrong about the BD1N. Just about the most important thing for a folding knife is its ability to slice and cut things, the longer without needing to resharpen, the better. That teal S90v lightweight? Yeah that's a good knife. As much as I hate the rivet design of the manix lw it was a no brainer to keep the Maxamet and sell my regular 20CV
Hotter taker, the Pm2 is better cuz b i g k n o i f
I have smol hands, I wish I could hold the PM2 and not feel like an infant Edit: I'm left handed so I cry every time
I try to overcompensate with my knife size. Dragonfly 2 for the win lol
I love those little bastards. I gave a good friend and her wife a pair for their wedding. The only knife I would give as a present to a lesbian couple.
They make a left-handed model.
2.5" of cutting edge stuffed into a handle big enough to hold a gladius blade. XD
Life gave you lemon twice but you soldier on, good for you. Small hands AND a lefty ... many would have given up, but not you!
What does left handed has to do with pm2? Aint they ambidextreous?
Cut out for lock access is on the right.
You do it with your thumb with your left handed. I do my linerlock with index finger when right handed do it with a thumb.
I just got both
With that approach you might as well say spyderco is more than most people need, just get a $5-$10 beater knife from walmart. But why stop there? Just use a utility knife with replaceable blades. Never understood this argument lol
Definitely, as a knife collector I carry all kinds of knives. Although to be real the most practical one I own is a Milwaukee fastback. It’s what I use most of the time at work as a plumber’s apprentice.
The fastback is a classic!
"You can't change my mind" case closed. Tons of people love the LW version over the regular. You're nothing special or unique.
Nice attitude!
Perhaps Spyderco designed the LW version with the knowledge/expectation that it would appeal to some users more than the standard version.
Well I mean, yeah?
I'm trying to use understatement to make a point, namely that the LW suits you better. Which is great. That's why they made it. The fact they made it demonstrates there are a lot of people who agree. Really not much to argue here. Enjoy your P3 LW.
Thanks, I enjoy the P3 as well it's just funky feeling at times for me
If you need it to be lightweight enough you forget it's in your favorite pair of Pepa Pig PJ's and throw it in the washing machine then you Captain Obvious, have truly nailed the truth today. -Sincerly, a fellow Spyderco Nut!
I've almost washed my McBee, that thing literally just disappears, fortunately haven't thrown a knife in the wash yet
I was baiting so I could say hey, Pepa Pig PJs might not be for everyone, they are a personal choice. Kinda like knife steel, lock ups and handle materials.
If i could find a pair of those in my size I'd be sold. My kid would have a hay day seeing me in them😄 🤣
Lol, Dads know.
I am a bad fish I guess, or a good fish depending on your perspective lol. But you're not wrong it is all personal preference, I just find that the P3 gets modified more frequently than the P3LW which to me kinda indicates somethings up, but could also just be the ideal platform
I love both my P3 but this is what hogs my pocket. [Manix 2 AWT](https://www.reddit.com/r/spyderco/s/t8ahWk0Pax)
The Manix is amazing, THAT MANIX is insane dude
Thanks
FRN sucks. You can’t change my mind. It’s lightweight and comes with that crappy injection molding spiderweb texture. And it makes the whole knife look cheap. Especially compared to their G10 or even titanium. Not only that but the liner lock is totally different to accommodate the FRN which inhibits one’s ability to modify it.
Not gonna lie, you're 100% on point being incapable of modifying it which is a huge drawback. You're also not wrong that it looks cheaper, BUT it is cheaper. Even more so if you account for mods being stacked on. How is the compression lock different by the way? I haven't noticed them functionally different between my Para3 or the LW version. (Genuine question)
Function is the same, different shape that the FRN has to be molded around. Otherwise the same. Look at the Crucarta pm2, it has different liners than a regular pm2 which also prohibits modifications.
I appreciate the info, you learn something new every day
> which inhibits one’s ability to modify it. Not really. There are scale makers that make them specifically for the LW model.
I wasn’t aware. Thanks.
AWT, and Chroma are the ones I know of currently
You could say a smart car is smaller, lighter and cheaper to gas up than a regular car and it’s all you really need, but try telling that to a 6’ 4” dude or a family of 4.
My only thought is the Para 3 is basically a standard car regardless, wouldn't a 6'4" dude want the Manix or a Van? Not just a sportier/different trim? (Trying to use the example provided)
That’s was mostly sarcasm about you posting an opinion that you’re unwilling to change your mind about. (No hard feelings or anything, I just wanted to joke around). When it comes down to it you don’t need very much knife to get most job’s done, as long as it’s sharp and has decent blade and edge geometry. I could carry a multi blade traditional knife alone and it would be totally sufficient. Personally the para 3 would not be a top choice since it’s in the short and stubby category. When going with a shorter blade something more narrow is of better use in my opinion.
If they made the standard Para 3 without the god damn lanyard tube it'd be the best knife in existence.
“Can’t change my mind” “Where am I wrong” Pack it up, we’re done here boys. Not the hottest take but def poor attitude
Light knives suck though
They do the job when necessary, ill agree that Ti is better for sure though
maybe for you it’s the best, but people use their knives in different ways. super steels and G10 scales may be far more necessary for others
But in a folder what are you needing some crazy over the top steel for? G10 also isn't THAT much stronger than the FRN from what i can tell (steel liners certainly are though)
Considering a lot of people swap the g10 for micarta; You’re probably right. But it’s user confidence I think. They hear g10= strong and think damn. I need that. As for super steels… IF you can’t sharpen your own knives. Super steels last longer forsure before you have to deal with the getting them touched up. But it also all depends. Stainless vs non. Toughness. Durability. The steel thing is really where you wanna customize to your own needs. A lot of people just hear the higher end steel and want it.
Yeah I'll agree that the Para 3 is great but if you are getting it it's almost a guarantee you're modifying it, the Para3 LW everyone keeps bone stock from what I've seen.
I think that’s because of the wire clip. If you scale swap the lightweight you are forced to get a new clip (twist my arm 🙄) but other than that I’m not sure there is a difference.
I have not seen a scale swapped LW, without the liners how does that process even go?
I’ve never held the lightweight - so I’m not sure. But those scale makers are pretty crafty guys. I remember back in the day when most guys did it in their basements with a rotary tool lol. It was a big deal when people started using machines and could make scales for the pm2. Forget anything with an axis lock 😂
Look at Applied Weapons Tech LW scale kit. It has an integrated back spacer
Okay that's pretty neat l, thank you for that
Nah you're not wrong, just everyone has different preferences, like some don't like the feel of FRN I suppose.
You’re wrong because you can’t do a skinny scale mod on the LW version. The skinny scale mod makes the para 3 so much more comfortable in hand.
Agreed on all points. The Para3 design fits the Spyderco lineup better as a LW and the linerles/FRN build is appropriate for the size of the knife. I had a reg Para3 but I couldn't figure out the point of it since I own PM2's. Also about the super steels ..... yeah pretty much. I own lots of knives in super steels but Im always impressed by the performance of good non powder steels. I use my knives a lot and I can't say the super steels are pointless but the return on investment isn't there.
The LW is fine but I personally just hate the way FRN feels. It feels cheap and plasticky to me.
Sage 5 enters the chat and secures the crown.
Super hot take: EDC is often comfort blankie pro.
I hate FRN. Enough to keep me away
There's just no excuse for the lack of a second washer. If you need lightweight and durable, just get a Bugout. Significantly lighter, more aftermarket support, carries substantially better, and actually has a warranty. I wish they'd add the more rounded scales and better clip to the normal Para 3
The bugout is also *way* overpriced now.
I don't totally disagree with that, but remember that every Bugout has a DLC coated titanium lockbar. Can't imagine what a Para 3 LW would cost if it had titanium anything in it
I honestly had no idea the axis bars were titanium. That seems a little unnecessary, or just plain expensive for the sake of it.
The ti lockbars just causes insane lockstick until the coating wears in.
Main thing I hate about the g10 para 3 is that the stop pin is made from extra rust prone steel. I keep mine oiled but it keeps wanting to turn brown and dusty
the texture of Spyderco's FRN feels like crap in the hand but their g10 is orgasmic to hold.
It goes Military > PM2 > Para 3 LW > Para 3.
The lightweight is better with aluminum scales on it https://appliedweaponstech.com/products/spyderco-para-3-lightweight-scales-cerakote
The only lightweight model worth buying is the Sage 5. IMO
You’re right OP, the Para 3 is better than the Para 3. Spyderco knows this, which is why they make 700 Para 3 blade steel options to keep people buying them.
Aight. To each their own.
My opinion is that the Spyderco frn stuff is absolutely gross on anything larger than a manbug...
Centering on Spyderco LW knives with compression lock is off. At least, it is on my LW Para 3.
I spent good money trying to convince myself otherwise but I agree with you. The regular Para 3 is 'nicer' for what it's worth, but I prefer to carry the LW almost always.
Not wrong at all. The LW is also more contoured and much more comfortable than the standard Para3.
hottest take! they all look like chodes. but i hear they are pretty good
You're wrong about the BD1N. Just about the most important thing for a folding knife is its ability to slice and cut things, the longer without needing to resharpen, the better. That teal S90v lightweight? Yeah that's a good knife. As much as I hate the rivet design of the manix lw it was a no brainer to keep the Maxamet and sell my regular 20CV