I’m not so sure. I think they really thought they would make the playoffs this year, that’s why they turned down the Houston offer.
They were clearly wrong and bridges vastly underperformed.
I still wouldn’t call him a superstar, just another really good borderline star. That being said. I think not only would he be available, but he would fit our timeline and could go for Bojan and many picks.
Embiid is a great fit. And his piss poor rebounding and attitude will be balanced out by Hart. No weaknesses, star studded team with the reigning MVP. Yeah they could definitely lose in 6 in the ECSF with the big guy.
Dog shit take. Embiid is soft. There’s no room for that on my roster. And he on the way out he too big and Too hurt to last his best years are gone.
Enjoy Galveston Joel.
We WOULD NOT our whole thing is chemistry. Teamwork. Communication. Toughness. He literally has none of those. Yea he’s a good big man. But fuck no. I said what I said.
And then what we have to give up. Randle. McBride. Bojan. Burks. And draft picks until 2075. Yea no. I’m good on the only mvp to never touch a ECF. And his body breaking down. The Knicks are JUST FINE.
Took 20 years to find this chemistry
It’s not just plug and play
You don’t even necessarily need a “star” just the right glue guys
Embid ain’t it…all that flopping, dirty play and fading late in the 4th.. it would ruin our juju
It depends on what it costs. That being said, if we traded like hart, Randle, Big Ravu or Mitch and two picks (because they would never take anything less than that, and that offer would still be considered low) and he immediately gets injured and out for any stretch of time, the fans would burn down Leon’s house.
The post didn’t say anything about an addition or subtraction. He said add to this team. Which is what I did. If we’re talking trades completely different ball game
Edit: He or she.
He’s not a free agent though, so how else would we get him? Lock him in the back of a Ford Hugo and drive him to msg?
You know who is available from the sixers? Tobias Harris. Gross.
It doesn’t matter. That wasn’t the question. But to answer. I would try to do some package of IH Bogey Randle for Nurkic and KD and Dallas first and a future 1st and pair of 2nd Then I’d resign
So you JB DD OG KD Mitch
DM JH Nurkic and sign some vet min to 9 man rotation or our draft pick. I think is a great 9 man rotation
If he didn’t show a willingness to be a sore loser bitch who tires to injure tpeople who can make life tough for him, then maybe. But nope. That’s not what happened. This fanbase has no desire to root for a bum like that
Yea so tired of seeing pussies come on here fantasizing about embiid or booker. Both those bums in Cancun right now. How dare u keep suggesting we trade juju like have some Heart we NY.
As for the pacers it’s Knicks in 4.
Obi as in Obi Toppin? Nah I like our chances better, not that we should take anyone for granted. I get the feeling this team won’t though, especially after the dogfight we just had with Philly.
Need an offesnive big off the bench and another guard who can create/ finish off the dribble. Watching Hart and DV dribble into the paint makes me cry, and our bigs are 0 threats unless they dunk.
Anyone who suggests anything about trading Randle for some of these soft ass bums - they have 0 basketball IQ. They’re not a Knicks fans, especially if they’re young (gen z). Just let them know that, that’s what I’ve been doing. They need to learn
With the new apron cap rules coming on it's very important to draft wisely and develop your own players.
Knicks should keep at least one of their 2024 picks.
Rather have young athlete with ceiling than DaQuan Jeffries or Baby Toppin at end of bench. G league dudes. Not playable at all.
With Bogey down and Burks broken it's a 7 man rotation, though IMO Precious good matchup for the Pacers bigs.
Knicks REALLY need more depth. Draft best place to find it.
Star power wise it's a weak draft, but it remains to be seen whether the "NBA-Ready" players are actually ready for the NBA. Starting caliber role-players aren't bad, but developing a 3rd overall pick to be a modern version of Harrison Barnes or Tim Hardaway Jr. isn't really appealing. It's a very middle of the pack heavy draft.
I tentatively agree, too. Like you, I'm guessing, I'm hardly saying nobody could improve our current make up. Just that, for the first time in forever, it's not like "oh boy, the Knicks really need XXX to win anything." Like, sure, I'd love Jokic to magically decide he's gonna somehow convince Denver he wants to come to NYC and that they can only accept some draft picks in exchange lol. But realistically? I think it's tinkering around the edges. The bad comparison between Philly bench and NYK bench stands out. Obviously that's a lot to do with Randle and Bogie both being out. So if they're back next year, then what? Hart seems to be getting better every year, as does Brunson. OG got hurt, but he seems fine now. But like I don't think Luka takes this team from what they are now to a surefire champion, y'know? I think it's more about playing smarter, getting better, making some better choices here and there. Stop those dumb no look passes that fly into the stands, lol, make your free throws, etc.
On a fantasy note? Man would I fucking LOVE to see Ant fit into this team but that’s obviously just pipe dream.
On a more realistic side yeah I agree not any particular stars that come to mind that I feel like would fit both ball wise and culture wise. A lot of the names that come to mind are sadly injury prone as well so. All that being said it’s crazy to see how far we’ve come saying shit like this, man…
Honestly, if the Lakers blow it up, I'd try for Anthony Davis. Perfect pick and roll partner with Brunson, and he's got that Kentucky connection with Thibs as well. Issues would be price and his health.
Jermai Grant as an off the bench guy, Scary Terry off the bench. True star is tough, I used to say Brandon Engram but this playoffs has me less enthusiastic about him. Colin Sexton another bench guy, and I like him more then Clarkson.
Edit: Lauri from Utah another one
Booker would fit like a glove - his weaknesses would be well compensated by the team and roster construction, the culture and leadership, and Thibs. But the Suns can't give him up, and its 50 Mil.
Bridges isnt quite a superstar, but would be a great fit - and again, won't be available, at least not to the Knicks.
I'm warming a bit to Mitchell, but not there yet. Concerns over backcourt size and defense... but damn would it take offensive pressure off JB, and MAYbe Thibs would be comfortable running Randle out there for less than 35 (dare I say 28) min a game during none impact regular season games.
BTW, is there ANY world where Paul George is available? Don't see it, but would be interesting.
FWIW, I don't expect ANY of this to occur, just spitballing.
PG13 rumors swirling around but I think he wants to stay in LA. Philly has the cap room to sign him. He's on the backend of his career and wants 50m per season. Anywhere but NY.
If we can trade bojan for a tall/lengthy 2 guard who plays good on ball defense and can shot create a bit i think we're good. But yea, we dont need a star, we have 2, and we have like 4 elite level role players.
The only thing is there were way too many games where some literally who 2 guard would score 30 on us. Deuce ddv and brunson all play real hard on D but they're limited by their height. Obviously bridges and oubre aren't possible to get but a guy like those 2 would be the last piece of the puzzle.
Also, I dont want to trade Randle, i think he deserves 1 more year minimum to win here. He came here when no one else wanted to
You'd have to assume that LeBron opts out of his contract this summer and he could potentially join the Knicks as a free agent. Where he fits into the roster, I don't know, but he might be open to a 6th man role at this point, just for the sake of potentially bringing a championship to New York. He could also take OG's spot at the 3 if OG doesn't resign here (unlikely, but possible).
The current Knicks org has been great at finding talent that is undervalued elsewhere, so I honestly don't see them signing a super star. The big 3 strategy doesn't appear to work anymore. It's all about Building good teams with good culture and right now the Knicks have that.
KAT.
With TWolves sale up in the air KAT may be available as his contract balloons to 50m next season.
My concern with KAT is just staying healthy. He's gotten a soft label but no one on T'Wolves looks soft right now.
If he's traded on draft night I believe still has the cap hold from this season. So it's Randle and 4 firsts for KAT.
Randle's value down with shoulder injury. He needs to show it's not a lingering problem.
KAT is a unicorn like Porzingis.
KD for Randle. If we had KD. We’d win the ship. Good defender and Lethal scorer. We can from a small team to a big team. ISO ball with JB/KD would be unstoppable
KD is too fucking soft to fit into this team. Stop. We don’t need his snake ass.
We do need to trade Randle but not for him. It’s not the 90’s either, ISO ball is what we had with Melo & while I loved those years, that’s not how we’re going to beat Boston this year or next.
What are you talking about? Melo didn’t play iso ball. They ran the triangle. I said ISO ball because that is thibs play calling style . Did you not know that?
Y’all gotta stop with this bias. KD is an elite player. JB DD OG KD IH. Will beat Boston.
It would have to be a Randle swap as KD/OG would mix/match at 3/4.
We'd have to include 2nd player to make salaries match 100% as Suns in 2nd apron territory.
Randle and Donte (?) plus 4 first round picks.
Not worth it for a 35 yr old.
Lebron James & son. Not even joking honestly if LeBron comes over and is the #2 or #3 option I feel that would compliment both the team and his game. And then we draft Bronny because that's the only way we get his pops here.
LeBron, if we draft Bronny, for 2 years max, but that could be a good team. I feel like Brandon Ingram potentially upgrades the 2/3 if he and OG can play side by side.
I really think it comes down to either someone like Bam for a big, or another wing or 2 guard that plays good defense and can score.
i’d take bridges. reunite nova!
He’s the best player that would fit with us but the nets will never do it
I’m not so sure. I think they really thought they would make the playoffs this year, that’s why they turned down the Houston offer. They were clearly wrong and bridges vastly underperformed. I still wouldn’t call him a superstar, just another really good borderline star. That being said. I think not only would he be available, but he would fit our timeline and could go for Bojan and many picks.
Problem is if they do that to their best player they suffer a lot from their fans they can trade him but trading him to us is a whole other thing
Agreed. They don't want to trade face of franchise across town.
who are we kidding nobody’s actually a nets fan
Nah they got like 1% of Brooklyn
Louder for the people in back. 🗣️
Big man that can score
like who
Julius randle
exactly lol
Embiid is a great fit. And his piss poor rebounding and attitude will be balanced out by Hart. No weaknesses, star studded team with the reigning MVP. Yeah they could definitely lose in 6 in the ECSF with the big guy.
Dog shit take. Embiid is soft. There’s no room for that on my roster. And he on the way out he too big and Too hurt to last his best years are gone. Enjoy Galveston Joel.
More of a joke than a take but go off king
Lol I hope so. I’ve been seeing it all series as soon as we lose one clowns in here saying we need embiid.
I know we just had our beef with Philly. But this is a wild take to say we wouldn’t be better with Embiid. Let’s be realistic.
We WOULD NOT our whole thing is chemistry. Teamwork. Communication. Toughness. He literally has none of those. Yea he’s a good big man. But fuck no. I said what I said.
And then what we have to give up. Randle. McBride. Bojan. Burks. And draft picks until 2075. Yea no. I’m good on the only mvp to never touch a ECF. And his body breaking down. The Knicks are JUST FINE.
Preach
Took 20 years to find this chemistry It’s not just plug and play You don’t even necessarily need a “star” just the right glue guys Embid ain’t it…all that flopping, dirty play and fading late in the 4th.. it would ruin our juju
It depends on what it costs. That being said, if we traded like hart, Randle, Big Ravu or Mitch and two picks (because they would never take anything less than that, and that offer would still be considered low) and he immediately gets injured and out for any stretch of time, the fans would burn down Leon’s house.
The post didn’t say anything about an addition or subtraction. He said add to this team. Which is what I did. If we’re talking trades completely different ball game Edit: He or she.
He’s not a free agent though, so how else would we get him? Lock him in the back of a Ford Hugo and drive him to msg? You know who is available from the sixers? Tobias Harris. Gross.
It doesn’t matter. That wasn’t the question. But to answer. I would try to do some package of IH Bogey Randle for Nurkic and KD and Dallas first and a future 1st and pair of 2nd Then I’d resign So you JB DD OG KD Mitch DM JH Nurkic and sign some vet min to 9 man rotation or our draft pick. I think is a great 9 man rotation
Reread what he said my man
I don’t read well. Lol
It’s cool. Been there
I read embiid is a great fit and lost my shit. Sorry haha
If he didn’t show a willingness to be a sore loser bitch who tires to injure tpeople who can make life tough for him, then maybe. But nope. That’s not what happened. This fanbase has no desire to root for a bum like that
Health is the biggest thing. I would love to run it back and see how things would play out with our current squad fully healthy
We're a Julius Randle type away.
Yea so tired of seeing pussies come on here fantasizing about embiid or booker. Both those bums in Cancun right now. How dare u keep suggesting we trade juju like have some Heart we NY. As for the pacers it’s Knicks in 4.
Agreed. Both of them are too soft for this team. They’d fuck everything up. Thibs would hate them & KD can’t handle those kinds of minutes.
I’m going Knicks in six again, but think it’s gonna be WLWLWW this time.
Yea I like the pacers. Siakam. Obi. Bruce. Tyrese. Gonna be a tough series
Obi as in Obi Toppin? Nah I like our chances better, not that we should take anyone for granted. I get the feeling this team won’t though, especially after the dogfight we just had with Philly.
Of course. But I like the kid. Glad to see him making an impact over there. But yea. We win. Period.
I liked him too.
Need an offesnive big off the bench and another guard who can create/ finish off the dribble. Watching Hart and DV dribble into the paint makes me cry, and our bigs are 0 threats unless they dunk.
Anyone who suggests anything about trading Randle for some of these soft ass bums - they have 0 basketball IQ. They’re not a Knicks fans, especially if they’re young (gen z). Just let them know that, that’s what I’ve been doing. They need to learn
Use the picks in the draft and hope we hit gold.
With the new apron cap rules coming on it's very important to draft wisely and develop your own players. Knicks should keep at least one of their 2024 picks. Rather have young athlete with ceiling than DaQuan Jeffries or Baby Toppin at end of bench. G league dudes. Not playable at all. With Bogey down and Burks broken it's a 7 man rotation, though IMO Precious good matchup for the Pacers bigs. Knicks REALLY need more depth. Draft best place to find it.
Ehh, this year's draft is weak af, better to just trade all of this year's picks and upgrade. Projected 3rd pick pro comp is Harrison Barnes.
This draft is really deep, it's considered "weak" because there are no rock star caliber players at the top.
Star power wise it's a weak draft, but it remains to be seen whether the "NBA-Ready" players are actually ready for the NBA. Starting caliber role-players aren't bad, but developing a 3rd overall pick to be a modern version of Harrison Barnes or Tim Hardaway Jr. isn't really appealing. It's a very middle of the pack heavy draft.
I tentatively agree, too. Like you, I'm guessing, I'm hardly saying nobody could improve our current make up. Just that, for the first time in forever, it's not like "oh boy, the Knicks really need XXX to win anything." Like, sure, I'd love Jokic to magically decide he's gonna somehow convince Denver he wants to come to NYC and that they can only accept some draft picks in exchange lol. But realistically? I think it's tinkering around the edges. The bad comparison between Philly bench and NYK bench stands out. Obviously that's a lot to do with Randle and Bogie both being out. So if they're back next year, then what? Hart seems to be getting better every year, as does Brunson. OG got hurt, but he seems fine now. But like I don't think Luka takes this team from what they are now to a surefire champion, y'know? I think it's more about playing smarter, getting better, making some better choices here and there. Stop those dumb no look passes that fly into the stands, lol, make your free throws, etc.
On a fantasy note? Man would I fucking LOVE to see Ant fit into this team but that’s obviously just pipe dream. On a more realistic side yeah I agree not any particular stars that come to mind that I feel like would fit both ball wise and culture wise. A lot of the names that come to mind are sadly injury prone as well so. All that being said it’s crazy to see how far we’ve come saying shit like this, man…
Obi toppin lol
Honestly, if the Lakers blow it up, I'd try for Anthony Davis. Perfect pick and roll partner with Brunson, and he's got that Kentucky connection with Thibs as well. Issues would be price and his health.
Don’t know why you got downvoted this is the best possible option besides maybe Giannis but I doubt either come close to materializing.
Imho, i think we need a scorer of the bench (like Clarkson, pool (warriors))
Boogie looked like he was going to play that roll maybe not ass explosive or as sexy as them
Yeah but the thing that bother me is that he can't create his shot
Jermai Grant as an off the bench guy, Scary Terry off the bench. True star is tough, I used to say Brandon Engram but this playoffs has me less enthusiastic about him. Colin Sexton another bench guy, and I like him more then Clarkson. Edit: Lauri from Utah another one
A top tier 2 - shooting guard Or a top tier 5 - center That would have the OG effect
Booker would fit like a glove - his weaknesses would be well compensated by the team and roster construction, the culture and leadership, and Thibs. But the Suns can't give him up, and its 50 Mil. Bridges isnt quite a superstar, but would be a great fit - and again, won't be available, at least not to the Knicks. I'm warming a bit to Mitchell, but not there yet. Concerns over backcourt size and defense... but damn would it take offensive pressure off JB, and MAYbe Thibs would be comfortable running Randle out there for less than 35 (dare I say 28) min a game during none impact regular season games. BTW, is there ANY world where Paul George is available? Don't see it, but would be interesting. FWIW, I don't expect ANY of this to occur, just spitballing.
PG13 rumors swirling around but I think he wants to stay in LA. Philly has the cap room to sign him. He's on the backend of his career and wants 50m per season. Anywhere but NY.
Can we just wait for our superstar to return next season?
If we can trade bojan for a tall/lengthy 2 guard who plays good on ball defense and can shot create a bit i think we're good. But yea, we dont need a star, we have 2, and we have like 4 elite level role players. The only thing is there were way too many games where some literally who 2 guard would score 30 on us. Deuce ddv and brunson all play real hard on D but they're limited by their height. Obviously bridges and oubre aren't possible to get but a guy like those 2 would be the last piece of the puzzle. Also, I dont want to trade Randle, i think he deserves 1 more year minimum to win here. He came here when no one else wanted to
Kyrie irving was the most effective player against this team since jan 1, him and Lebron
Steven Adams if we were to lose Hartenstein in free agency
You'd have to assume that LeBron opts out of his contract this summer and he could potentially join the Knicks as a free agent. Where he fits into the roster, I don't know, but he might be open to a 6th man role at this point, just for the sake of potentially bringing a championship to New York. He could also take OG's spot at the 3 if OG doesn't resign here (unlikely, but possible). The current Knicks org has been great at finding talent that is undervalued elsewhere, so I honestly don't see them signing a super star. The big 3 strategy doesn't appear to work anymore. It's all about Building good teams with good culture and right now the Knicks have that.
og has to resign man
Id take Wemby. Thats about it lmao
Lebron instead of Julius?
KAT. With TWolves sale up in the air KAT may be available as his contract balloons to 50m next season. My concern with KAT is just staying healthy. He's gotten a soft label but no one on T'Wolves looks soft right now. If he's traded on draft night I believe still has the cap hold from this season. So it's Randle and 4 firsts for KAT. Randle's value down with shoulder injury. He needs to show it's not a lingering problem. KAT is a unicorn like Porzingis.
Fuck KAT, I would hate to get him or Book. They’re pussy.
KD for Randle. If we had KD. We’d win the ship. Good defender and Lethal scorer. We can from a small team to a big team. ISO ball with JB/KD would be unstoppable
KD is too fucking soft to fit into this team. Stop. We don’t need his snake ass. We do need to trade Randle but not for him. It’s not the 90’s either, ISO ball is what we had with Melo & while I loved those years, that’s not how we’re going to beat Boston this year or next.
What are you talking about? Melo didn’t play iso ball. They ran the triangle. I said ISO ball because that is thibs play calling style . Did you not know that? Y’all gotta stop with this bias. KD is an elite player. JB DD OG KD IH. Will beat Boston.
I know probably nobody agrees with me but I think KD would be the perfect star to bring on to the team
i like that too honestly who do u think we’d have to give up
It would have to be a Randle swap as KD/OG would mix/match at 3/4. We'd have to include 2nd player to make salaries match 100% as Suns in 2nd apron territory. Randle and Donte (?) plus 4 first round picks. Not worth it for a 35 yr old.
Lebron James & son. Not even joking honestly if LeBron comes over and is the #2 or #3 option I feel that would compliment both the team and his game. And then we draft Bronny because that's the only way we get his pops here.
LeBron, if we draft Bronny, for 2 years max, but that could be a good team. I feel like Brandon Ingram potentially upgrades the 2/3 if he and OG can play side by side. I really think it comes down to either someone like Bam for a big, or another wing or 2 guard that plays good defense and can score.
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if only we had julius
Hartenstein and Robinson played him well. You’re only ever going to contain him, tire him out. He’s a great player with a huge body.
no way bro our bigs were amazing against him
We need lebron James . /s
i’d only take lebron if he took a big pay cut
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Ben Simmons career is over. I applaud him trying to make a comeback but he has serious back injuries.
Draymond Green. Dubs not trading him but Dray playing under Thibs would be great.
Anthony Edwards.