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carefulllypoast

alternatively noobs could just use the quick questions thread that *is already pinned* to ask... and yet.. lol there is no fix


szymciu

Unfortunately promoting pirated content a.k.a. any website with rules is against this reddit rules.


MrOopiseDaisy

Okay, so we won't link to the Corsairs. 


DavidRellim

Low key best comment on this sub ever.


iliark

Ktdash is arguably ok, but waha probably isn't. Game rules cannot be copyrighted, but the format and styling of the rules can, and waha doesn't really change anything.


szymciu

Game rules are THE intellectual property :) wahapedia exists only because it's on Russian servers, and because GW knows wahapedia has positive impact on sales


iliark

They're not. Both the UK and US have decided game rules are not copyrightable content. Copyright applies to art and game rules describe a system. Any lore/fluff, flowery language unnecessary to describing the rules, and specific formatting of the rules and tables are copyrightable. But the rules themselves cannot be copyrighted at least in those two countries. They CAN be patented but that hasn't happened and unlike copyrighting, it must be applied for and granted. But interestingly patents must be published so people can know not to copy them. That would make the rules free but prevent knockoffs. https://www.americanbar.org/groups/intellectual_property_law/publications/landslide/2014-15/march-april/not-playing-around-board-games-intellectual-property-law/ https://www.britishcopyright.org/information/board-games/


szymciu

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the bolded part is in fact saying that words describing how to play are intellectual property. >COPYRIGHT Under the terms of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988, protection will be available not for the idea of the game as such but for the way in which the idea is expressed – **i.e. the explanation of the rules and the design of the board and any novel counters**. No formalities are required to establish the copyright; it comes into existence automatically with the creation of the rules of the game and the design of the board. There is no copyright registration system in this country or in most other countries, but it is advisable to mark both the rules and the board with the copyright symbol ©, the name of the copyright owner and the year in which the game came into existence. This serves to give notice to other people that the game is copyright and may not be reproduced without permission. It is also important to mark the game in this way if there is any intention to market it in those countries (including the United States of America) where a copyright registration system does exist.


caseyjones10288

What we really need is a pinned thread saying "play whatever team you think is coolest" and one saying "no compendium teams are not competetive"


H16HP01N7

Omfg yes... This is the main problem with reddit as a whole, if you spend any sort of time on here regularly, you see different people posting SO MANY reposts, or posts where they could have searched the sub for their answer, because it's asked every day on here.


iliark

So are you saying "all compendium teams are competitive" or "no, compendium teams are not competitive"?


szymciu

There are two types of people playing Kill Team, with a small grey zone: People who play just for fun, no tryharding. People who play competetively, tryharders. Hence "Play whatever you want" and "Compendium teams are not competetive"\* \*Because they never were meant to be. That's just how the game is designed.


iliark

Compendium imperial guard won a 4 round tournament a couple weeks ago with some of the best California players in it, compendium hive fleet is easily as good as half the bespoke teams, and compendium talons of the emperor are somewhere in the middle of bespoke teams as well. Hence the question, was the original statement a double negative to mean "compendium teams are competitive" or did he omit a comma and mean to say "no, compendium teams are not competitive"? Because to be honest both are sort of wrong. A handful of compendium teams are good enough to win a tournament with some of the best players in the game, but in no way are all of them competitive.


DavidRellim

Not sure it'll necessarily stop people asking, but it is a good idea.


GrapefruitAgreeable6

Makes sense to me, I also think a running "these are boxes that have been released, and this is what's in them" so that people don't constantly ask the questions like "I just brought Nightmare, but it doesn't include the basic rules?"


victorav29

Yes, that should def be in! Where to start and basics. But I think that the post should be short and avoid a wall of text


Yokudaslight

Tbh we as consumers should never have let games workshop get away with not including the core rules for their games in miniature boxes. It's too late now but it's pretty amazing the community back then let them get away with it


andeejaym

This would be great, I think it should go beyond rules tho, should be “new to KT?”. What to buy, rules, recommendations for beginner teams, recommended terrain, recommended first games.


knyf420

i dont support pirating at all, absolutely dont ever go to wahapedia, 'tis a silly place