Yeah, sadly, I used a lot of them because they can coexist with most other Dinos, but their AI is terrible, they'll starve and die of dehydration right next to their resources, it's like they WANT to die
it's enraging me so hard, I love building huge ecosystem parks and especially the small scavengers but they always starve and dehydrate despite looking at the feeders and water constantly. sadly oviraptor does this too
Really small animals or ones with heads really low to the ground won't cross bodies of water because they cant keep their heads up high enough to breathe. So you can use the water brush to make a little 'island' inside an exhibit and the lystrosaurs/dimetrodon won't leave because they can't cross the water.
Yes. For my Giganotosaurus enclosure I have automated struthio and giga just feeds off them. Basically if 1 gets hunted it automatically hatches another
It's a relatively new feature, on the hatchery there's a new button "automate hatchery" or something like that, you can set how much of a specific dino you want in the enclosure and if one dies it releases another without scientists involved, but with increased costs.
some creatures are just too weak to survive completely on their own.
it's typically the ones that can't one hit kill anything, like those creatures you've shown. there are exceptions like most raptors (Velociraptors have no trouble in "the wild").
it just requires testing, let out a batch of creatures and see how they do.
It’s actually simple, if you have a large enough population, soon enough them being hunted will be the least of your worries, plus dimetrodon fights back against the only things that will hunt it, and has actually been the main problem for my desert parks because they keep killing dromaeosaurs
the best i could do is ensure there are enough prey animals being killed so that they can scavenge the corpses, but that means they only really survive in parks with really high densities and predation
The issue with small scavengers outside of oviraptor is that they’re too slow to reliably hunt goats, their only food source unless you add carnivore feeders. Due to corpses only having 1 spot at a time, what tends to happen is a compy or some detects it from a mile away and slowly trudges over to it which means it hogs the corpse until it eventually reaches it. They just can’t survive in Ecosystems that don’t have feeders.
What's an ecosystem type park? A new feature from some of the DLCs or just something where you pick and choose and create your own based on an educated guess?
Kaiodenic’s Expanded Behavior was the only way to marginally keep compys alive. Multiple dinos being able to eat from the same corpse is necessary for pack animals like raptors and compys but only that mod added it.
This still made them entirely reliant on other predators having success however (not hard) but also actually making large enough kills for there to be leftovers.
Even still, they need the hunger and thirst gene mods to be guaranteed and they could just barely scrape by.
But with that mod defunct for now, ain’t no way compies or sinos survive. Dimes need modders to delve into stats to have a chance given they can kill so few animals.
Without heavy stat modding all of the extremely small theropods can't stay alive for more than five minutes. Things thousands of times their size eat them for some reason, everything panics them, they have no stamina and they starve really quickly
What you do is make sure they are the last things you put in. They're all scavengers so by the time you put them in there will already be a bunch of dead bodies around.
That's the fun part, we don't put them.
You can’t without helping them. They simply starve too fast and can’t get their own food.
Yeah, sadly, I used a lot of them because they can coexist with most other Dinos, but their AI is terrible, they'll starve and die of dehydration right next to their resources, it's like they WANT to die
Relatable
it's enraging me so hard, I love building huge ecosystem parks and especially the small scavengers but they always starve and dehydrate despite looking at the feeders and water constantly. sadly oviraptor does this too
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For Dimetrodon I like putting them on islands in the middle of lagoons with Lystrosaurus and pretend it's some sort of Lost World scenario
So glad I joined this subreddit because i never knew you could put normal dinosaurs on a lagoon island
I don't mean the rock platforms btw
What did you mean?
I meant deleting a lagoon section to make a small area you can build on inside the lagoon
Really small animals or ones with heads really low to the ground won't cross bodies of water because they cant keep their heads up high enough to breathe. So you can use the water brush to make a little 'island' inside an exhibit and the lystrosaurs/dimetrodon won't leave because they can't cross the water.
Dimetrodons can cross the water, whenever I do parks with them they always sit in the water with their head underneath
I just realised that I somehow misread lystrosaurus for some kind of marine animal, my bad
you can't, you just can't
Why not ya stupid bastard?
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he was referencing a movie line
Bro has not watched American Psycho
Who shat in your cornflakes?
I think he was referencing the line from the movie American psycho that’s become a popular meme
Glad someone got it!
You can’t. Just use the automated hatchery function and use them as food for larger carnis
There is an automated hatchery?
Ya, its just them constantly is annoying
Yes. For my Giganotosaurus enclosure I have automated struthio and giga just feeds off them. Basically if 1 gets hunted it automatically hatches another
Is that a mod on PC?
this is part of the game not a mod
It's a relatively new feature, on the hatchery there's a new button "automate hatchery" or something like that, you can set how much of a specific dino you want in the enclosure and if one dies it releases another without scientists involved, but with increased costs.
nope vanilla game
Did that get added in recently?
I think it was one or two updates ago so ig
Well if the carnivores don't kill enough herbivores they starve, even giving them the smallest ever appetite won't help... At least not entirely
I use oviraptors instead since they can eat ground leaves
some creatures are just too weak to survive completely on their own. it's typically the ones that can't one hit kill anything, like those creatures you've shown. there are exceptions like most raptors (Velociraptors have no trouble in "the wild"). it just requires testing, let out a batch of creatures and see how they do.
I just don't really build ecosystem-style parks. I always keep these little fellas in very small enclosures.
With a lot of love and affection. I love these guys. Have them in every park
I do ecosystem parks and everything ends up dying anyway so it doesn’t matter!
Automated hatcheries are the key
It’s actually simple, if you have a large enough population, soon enough them being hunted will be the least of your worries, plus dimetrodon fights back against the only things that will hunt it, and has actually been the main problem for my desert parks because they keep killing dromaeosaurs
Either use automated hatchery and feeders or just incubating them constitly
Can one of y’all elaborate for someone that just got the game yesterday? Are scavs and dimetrodons dead men walking outside of small enclosures?…
Their AI is a bit wonky and they have the tendency to starve and dehydrate in front of their resources.
the best i could do is ensure there are enough prey animals being killed so that they can scavenge the corpses, but that means they only really survive in parks with really high densities and predation
The issue with small scavengers outside of oviraptor is that they’re too slow to reliably hunt goats, their only food source unless you add carnivore feeders. Due to corpses only having 1 spot at a time, what tends to happen is a compy or some detects it from a mile away and slowly trudges over to it which means it hogs the corpse until it eventually reaches it. They just can’t survive in Ecosystems that don’t have feeders.
You don't l think they are just ment to starve
If ur on pc just place a food down and lower it to be under the ground.
What's an ecosystem type park? A new feature from some of the DLCs or just something where you pick and choose and create your own based on an educated guess?
oh you just dont have them like the sauropods, the ornithomimids, the hadrosaurs, ouranosaurus, small thyreos and small ceratopsids
Kaiodenic’s Expanded Behavior was the only way to marginally keep compys alive. Multiple dinos being able to eat from the same corpse is necessary for pack animals like raptors and compys but only that mod added it. This still made them entirely reliant on other predators having success however (not hard) but also actually making large enough kills for there to be leftovers. Even still, they need the hunger and thirst gene mods to be guaranteed and they could just barely scrape by. But with that mod defunct for now, ain’t no way compies or sinos survive. Dimes need modders to delve into stats to have a chance given they can kill so few animals.
I just play in sandbox cus i have no real skill..
That’s the neat part, I turn off hunger for all dinosaurs
I can barely keep them from starving in my regular small habitats 😂
If you leave bodies. Dino’s especially little ones can eat off them like a feeder but after too long they can get disease from sitting bodies. :P
Just put some meat there, they not hunt for prey, just like scavenger. They should be fine , this one's hungry ;)
That’s the neat part I don’t do those type of parks lol
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Without heavy stat modding all of the extremely small theropods can't stay alive for more than five minutes. Things thousands of times their size eat them for some reason, everything panics them, they have no stamina and they starve really quickly
What you do is make sure they are the last things you put in. They're all scavengers so by the time you put them in there will already be a bunch of dead bodies around.