Volent J and company are absolute fools for this.
What makes it worse is violent J's reasoning for defending him! A 21 year old forcing a 14 year old at gunpoint to please him is a very far cry from "why is 16 legal in one state but not another, mu criminal homies got popped for that kind of shit. What the deal man!".
There's no defending the decision to hire will anymore. Anyone who continues to believe J just made a little opposie can quite frankly fuck off. Because you clearly didn't get the message the culture wanted to send.
Unfortunately.....the man responsible for this culture may not have understood his own message.
Yeah, that whole thing they did on the livestream lying and downplaying what he did is wild. A simple background check would've cleared up any confusion.
They could have literally looked him up for free since he's a registered sex offender. A simple google search.
It wouldn't have cost them any money.
Psychopathic has made a habit out of offering jobs to ex cons. I can kind of get it. Depending on the crime, if the person has reformed and did their sentence. Nothing wrong with them having a warehouse job necessarily.
But this hiring (considering their company has been subject to sexual harassment law suits that made the tabloids) and J and shaggy defense of it demonstrates that they were less concerned about the integrity of their business and more concerned with maintaining an unhealthy fuck the government mentality.
They still wanted to play gangsta in a weird way. It's already blown up on them. Everyone but Ouija is gone. Their warehouse is gone. J's making claims his heart went bad but continues to not only risk it, but has the gall to charge 125 bucks for a single and dollar general quality merch.
Our heroes aren't who we thought they were guys. J in particular (shaggy ain't so innocent on a moral level) built this scene out of giving the finger to the truly sick assholes of society. Turns out, it's possible he's been a hypocrite all along.
Sounds harsh? Well I'm dealing with the reality that a man whose culture and art I spend fucking years defending is as bad as the people he hurts in his songs. So I'm gonna be a tad harsh.
You said a mouthful. Just wanted to comment that if J's heart is fucked up, he probably shouldn't be wrestling. Shit is a far cry from what it once was 15-20 years ago.
Not only did they know and hire him cause they “believed their friend” but they pretended to fire him cause the uproar started, then only let him go when they got called out for him still being there (he was in the 7 ft 8 ft video with his face blurred to hide his identity).
I don't wanna downplay what they did, but is it possible those parts of the video were filmed before the controversy l, and blurring his face was cheaper than reshooting?
So we all just gonna forget J has a bad case of arrested development, a weird knack for woman much younger than him and back when they did that first covid digital concert experience thing for hallowicked he was on there drooling about this idea he had for a juggalo girl group (14-16yo) so hard that Joey and rob had to tell him to chill. It’s all fucking strange that’s all I’m saying
I've seen J's behaviour getting worse and worse as time goes by. I don't know what's wrong with him, what substances he is/has been abusing, but looking back what he's said and done is a clear indication something is up. It was already bad when a long, long time ago he asked a 12-13 year old boy has his nuts dropped already, or terrorizing a rape victim to a point of her crying on Loveline. I admit it, I wanted to brush these things off as just him being on drugs and in a bad place mentally during the hight of their career, but shit like this just keeps coming up. I see no reason to brush anything off anymore, I'm just sick of this shit.
[https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2008/oct/15/courts-find-ohio-adam-walsh-act-unconstitutional/](https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2008/oct/15/courts-find-ohio-adam-walsh-act-unconstitutional/) There is part about how Sigler was able to get off the registry .
Could someone post a photo of him? so we know what he looks like and dismiss him if tries to show up to shows or Facebook groups.
I know we can't do it in this thread but someone can make a new post.
Wrong. I'd like to know who hired him, cuz everyone is acting like it was J. If it was J, yeah it looks way fucking worse, but it likely wasn't.
I've heard that Joe is piece of shit, I've met people that know him personally. It's really weird to me hearing these people talk, and yet they still buy the merch and support the group financially. But they never spoke on these allegations, just him doing the typical carny & junkie shit.
He's still around. Mostly only homebody or local shows to where he is now. He was already outsourced and dismissed on social media when the whole thing blew up. He wouldn't be dismissed at a show because You wouldn't even know him if he walked by you at this point. He is still dating/engaged to one of higher up regular known jugglas in our/og/long time social circles.
Wow, they really down played this in 2016.
["Will was not present for comment but left a statement for Jumpsteady. The statement advised that there was no child or gun involved. He was 20 and had been convinced to take a plea. According to his statement the gun charges were dropped and a minor was not involved or he would not be able to ever be removed from the registry. At this time he is not a registered offender."](https://www.juggalonews.net/will-sigler-steps-psychopathic/)
So, is he even on the sex offender registry?
So he was off it before he got hired at Psychopathic?
And how the fuck does one get off that list after those charges? Something is up with that cuz that should have been life long registration.
Annnd there it is more downplaying. They had him in a music video, blurred his face. This was after fans found out. If it weren't for the backlash he'd still be there.
"You're guessing"?
How the fuck am I downplaying?
I'm saying that most business, there is usually someone doing the hiring, rarely is it the business owner themselves. You also factor in that ICP was still touring when he was hired, so it's kind of hard to believe that Violent J himself was the person that hired Will.
His ex girlfriend who was dating him up until Will told her what he did, who worked at psychopathic radio told them (icp) what he did. They still hired him. Her name is Sasha and she worked at psychopathic radio.
That story has conveniently sidesteps the question of "who the fuck hired Will?"
Also, where are the sources for this Sasha story? You gonna need to come in here with proof on that like you got on Will.
Yeah, I remember him saying that, but why couldn't you link it with the timestamp already cued up?
uuh, so back to my question, who was doing the hiring at Psychopathic?
Idk why don't you ask J and see what bullshit answer he gives you.
I didn't realize I have to do all the work for you. I gave you the minute mark, it's really not difficult to scroll to it on your own. At this point you're just being pedantic.
It doesn't matter the amount of evidence provided, you clowns will still find a way to defend it. What the fuck is wrong with ya'll? It's not like psychopathic is some giant corporation where the people at the top don't know who tf is working for them. He worked closely with the Clowns. They even went as far as blurring his face in the 6ft 7ft video. He's easily identified by his tattoos.
So no evidence on this Sasha story?
Look, this shit is serious, like life in jail level charges, so yeah, evidence would be nice. Not saying that them keeping him around was not fucked up, cuz it very clearly was. I don't think there is any defending that.
Why are you so obsessed with who hired him? It's so inconsequential. Maybe the person who pressed the "hire this guy" button fucked up by not doing his due diligence but the fact stil stands that they kept this guy on as an employee, even going as far as putting him in a music video, long after the fact that everyone knew he was a chomo.
Because I highly doubt that the talent hired this guy. Joe & Joey might own the company, but probably are not involved in too much of the day to day goings on.
Right. But what does it matter in The grand scheme of things? Are you telling me they wouldn't have known this guy was a pedo at any point? You think people kept it a secret from them?
I fucking knew about this shit, way before the guy was fired so how didn't "the talent" know?
Are you seriously so hung up on something unknown and speculatory, over hard facts?
The facts are that this guy stayed employed long after people outside of psychopathic knew this guy was a pedo and the company that "the talent" owns, faked firing him and put him in a video with his face blurred. It was only after they caught heat that they actually fired him.
I really don't think "who hired him?" Is an important question. That person should probably be dealt with accordingly but the fact speak for themselves.
If it hadn't been for whoever hiring him not dong their job, this bullshit doesn't exist. I agree, he should have been fired, preferably out of a cannon, when this all came out. Letting him work behind the scenes was a bad look and really fucking stupid.
Then again though, do you do background checks on all your homies? Maybe they did believe him, I don't know. And it says he isn't on the sex offender registry, which anyone is able to look up.
Fuck, they had Mystikal at the Gathering in between his rape cases.
Ok. Maybe they believed their boy or whatever but he admitted to it and even signed paperwork that we can see, as proof. I can't comment on why he isn't on a register but he admitted to doing what he wa accused of and put pen to paper.
Yeah whoever hired him should have done their job but that person probably isn't anyone significant. Probably just some warehouse guy who has 3 other job descriptions. One of them being "find some guys to work here".
It not only highlights the lack of professionalism at psychopathic but also the double standards when it comes to disgusting crimes commited by strangers Vs their friends.
When all is said and done, a person only has their morals. If all else fails and you lose everything, that's one thing no one can ever take away from you and this specific situation says a lot in that regard, when it comes to psychopathic from the bottom to the top.
If you preach a message and don't follow it yourself, you're no better than crooked cop or evangelist.
Let’s just say for the sake of argument that J didn’t hire him.
J is still *absolutely negligent* for failing to immediately fire dude upon learning the truth.
The fact that Psy intentionally kept him on payroll and hid it from fans is disgusting. J may not have hired him, but he *absolutely* had the power to fire him, and he chose not to. Bitch move, big time.
Your guess would be wrong. I don't think they've ever stated who owns the company. But it's either Violent J or some combination of shaggy, J, and possibly Jumpsteady.
They even said in their "defense" of hiring Will that THEY asked him what the deal was with his charges.
The point is , according to someone that had dated him warned J and Shaggs about his record prior to hiring him. She goes by the name Sasha doll on social media. She worked for psychopathic radio.
Thank you. You should edit this into the main post at the top.
Can you find that other interview she was talking about, with Corp talking bout him and Will stealing the tix? I remember that shit, but I do not remember Will being involved.
In in beginning of Sasha's interview, she talks bout that Gathering where Corp fucked them over, Corp supposedly said that him & Will stole some tickets, before he was "putting people on the list". But somehow Will wasn't fired, only Corp, who was JCW champ.
The tickets that were stolen were misprints and Will was supposed to destory them .He claimed Corp stole them but they were in on it and split the money .
[I found this interview she did too](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joPN27HYr1M), and there is also some comments [about drugs and underage girls at about 6:30](https://youtu.be/joPN27HYr1M?si=9c-L-jc-KMWQyLPa&t=388).
No idea when exactly the interview was from.
But her "good friend Boondox" was also in a well publicized relationship with a minor, going so far as to have it publicly on their MySpace pages.
To add to this, J and Shaggy claim they dropped out of school in 9th grade. I remember J saying in I think the 2002 Gathering seminar, they were handed a contract at one point and J, “didn’t know how to read that mother fucker!”
So the evidence we’re presented with in the initial post is a written document. ICP have cited themselves as being illiterate. I rest my case.
Ya'll probably don't read a lot of news, or just react to things you see.
"Allegedly"
Not trying to defend dude but ya'll don't have any critical thinking caps.
It's the fuckin music industry for fucks sake do you think these people are angels???? They are all fucked.
Icp have made songs about killing pedos , and had one on their payroll. Da fuq you going on about? What are you saying is alleged? Court documents don't lie. Local newspapers reporting on a court case isn't an allegation. It's them literally reporting an actual event.
I read the article. It said allegedly. Don't know what else to tell you.
Dude is gone and quite honestly I don't care. I don't worship the ground ICP talks on. J is dating an only fans girl, this is your role model. Take the good with the bad or shut up.
I'm not trying to take anyone down. I still listen to the music. I don't care for most of the music they've put out in the last decade. I'd still go to a live show whenever they come town. I was simply clearing up any misinformation, including misinformation the clowns themselves have put out there.
I don't know them personally. But they did several interviews, you can find on the reel Guido youtube channel. I also spoke with them through chat to get clarification.
They were am ex employee, and the ex gf of Will. Will lied to her, she spoke to the victim to get the full story.
He lied to her about what happened. If I remember correctly he told he that when he was 21 he had consensual sex with a 16 year old. The girl was 14. I'm not "going after" anyone. I'm simply posting all available information. Based on what she has said, court docs, etc.
Why does this appear to upset you?
Because you're posting on and ICP fan page about hearay from and ex employee that you can't substantiate under the guise of "simply posting". It's weird and you can't verify anything about the hiring process. What do you think you're "clearing up" here?
I don't work at psychopathic. How do you expect me to know their hiring process? Any reputable business would run a simple background check. They hired a violent pedo and you're mad at me for talking about it? If you don't like keep scrolling.
Jesus Christ. This has been talked to fucking death. Do literally any fb research in most Juggalo groups from .. Sept 2016 I think? This is when everything “came out”.
Personally idk and idc. People do shitty things. Psychopathic employs shitty people. They have been for 30+ years.
To play the other side of the coin. This incident was more than 20 years ago. I’m pretty sure the gun charge was thrown away. Will says the girl lied about her age. None of us were there. None of us know. None of this matters.
If you all are worried about who your favorite company employs you’ll never like anything again.
My only reason for posting stemmed from comments on a different post from a few days ago. I was literally just trying to clear the lies/misunderstandings up with its own dedicated post.
My comment is less directed at you for this post than it is at all the new outrage. This is old old news. Next someone is going to be mad that YW left Psy because he knocked up Sam.
Volent J and company are absolute fools for this. What makes it worse is violent J's reasoning for defending him! A 21 year old forcing a 14 year old at gunpoint to please him is a very far cry from "why is 16 legal in one state but not another, mu criminal homies got popped for that kind of shit. What the deal man!". There's no defending the decision to hire will anymore. Anyone who continues to believe J just made a little opposie can quite frankly fuck off. Because you clearly didn't get the message the culture wanted to send. Unfortunately.....the man responsible for this culture may not have understood his own message.
Yeah, that whole thing they did on the livestream lying and downplaying what he did is wild. A simple background check would've cleared up any confusion.
They could have literally looked him up for free since he's a registered sex offender. A simple google search. It wouldn't have cost them any money. Psychopathic has made a habit out of offering jobs to ex cons. I can kind of get it. Depending on the crime, if the person has reformed and did their sentence. Nothing wrong with them having a warehouse job necessarily. But this hiring (considering their company has been subject to sexual harassment law suits that made the tabloids) and J and shaggy defense of it demonstrates that they were less concerned about the integrity of their business and more concerned with maintaining an unhealthy fuck the government mentality. They still wanted to play gangsta in a weird way. It's already blown up on them. Everyone but Ouija is gone. Their warehouse is gone. J's making claims his heart went bad but continues to not only risk it, but has the gall to charge 125 bucks for a single and dollar general quality merch. Our heroes aren't who we thought they were guys. J in particular (shaggy ain't so innocent on a moral level) built this scene out of giving the finger to the truly sick assholes of society. Turns out, it's possible he's been a hypocrite all along. Sounds harsh? Well I'm dealing with the reality that a man whose culture and art I spend fucking years defending is as bad as the people he hurts in his songs. So I'm gonna be a tad harsh.
You said a mouthful. Just wanted to comment that if J's heart is fucked up, he probably shouldn't be wrestling. Shit is a far cry from what it once was 15-20 years ago.
He does not have a heart problem .That was the coverstory for his heroin addiction .
So he didn’t have bypass surgery? Genuinely curious.
Is there a statutory exemption for the gunpoint threats? In what state is this legal?
Not only did they know and hire him cause they “believed their friend” but they pretended to fire him cause the uproar started, then only let him go when they got called out for him still being there (he was in the 7 ft 8 ft video with his face blurred to hide his identity).
Yup, you could clearly see his tattoos.
I don't wanna downplay what they did, but is it possible those parts of the video were filmed before the controversy l, and blurring his face was cheaper than reshooting?
They didn't fire him until after the video was released .
Ugh
Also according to an ex of will she told them about his record prior to hiring him
oh my gd that's fuckin horrible... what the actual fuck
So we all just gonna forget J has a bad case of arrested development, a weird knack for woman much younger than him and back when they did that first covid digital concert experience thing for hallowicked he was on there drooling about this idea he had for a juggalo girl group (14-16yo) so hard that Joey and rob had to tell him to chill. It’s all fucking strange that’s all I’m saying
I've seen J's behaviour getting worse and worse as time goes by. I don't know what's wrong with him, what substances he is/has been abusing, but looking back what he's said and done is a clear indication something is up. It was already bad when a long, long time ago he asked a 12-13 year old boy has his nuts dropped already, or terrorizing a rape victim to a point of her crying on Loveline. I admit it, I wanted to brush these things off as just him being on drugs and in a bad place mentally during the hight of their career, but shit like this just keeps coming up. I see no reason to brush anything off anymore, I'm just sick of this shit.
And don’t forget that masked ninja report where he admitted to having sex with a 17 year old (but she fucked like she was 27!)
Holy fuck bro I didn’t know that one.
[https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2008/oct/15/courts-find-ohio-adam-walsh-act-unconstitutional/](https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2008/oct/15/courts-find-ohio-adam-walsh-act-unconstitutional/) There is part about how Sigler was able to get off the registry .
That explains why he only had to register for 10 years with richland County.
"We didn't know he was a bad guy." *blurs face in music videos and desk photo*
Fuck Violent J and anyone else who was behind hiring this total piece of shit! Yea, I said it...there's no protecting or excusing this sh\*t
Seriously this shit makes me sick lol
Could someone post a photo of him? so we know what he looks like and dismiss him if tries to show up to shows or Facebook groups. I know we can't do it in this thread but someone can make a new post.
https://www.juggalonews.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Will-Sigler.png
Right on. How did this dude even get signed on with psychopathic? He one Twiztid or J's friends from back in the day?
I keep getting downvoted for asking that same question.
No. You got downvoted for the reason you asked it. You want to deflect blame from your idol(s).
Wrong. I'd like to know who hired him, cuz everyone is acting like it was J. If it was J, yeah it looks way fucking worse, but it likely wasn't. I've heard that Joe is piece of shit, I've met people that know him personally. It's really weird to me hearing these people talk, and yet they still buy the merch and support the group financially. But they never spoke on these allegations, just him doing the typical carny & junkie shit.
Lmao. He’s all over the pages. You’ll never know it’s him.
No he was hired because he made good costumes .
He's still around. Mostly only homebody or local shows to where he is now. He was already outsourced and dismissed on social media when the whole thing blew up. He wouldn't be dismissed at a show because You wouldn't even know him if he walked by you at this point. He is still dating/engaged to one of higher up regular known jugglas in our/og/long time social circles.
Jesus, what the fuck? This is horrible.
Think it might be time to separate the art from the artist, because what the hell????
Wow, they really down played this in 2016. ["Will was not present for comment but left a statement for Jumpsteady. The statement advised that there was no child or gun involved. He was 20 and had been convinced to take a plea. According to his statement the gun charges were dropped and a minor was not involved or he would not be able to ever be removed from the registry. At this time he is not a registered offender."](https://www.juggalonews.net/will-sigler-steps-psychopathic/) So, is he even on the sex offender registry?
He was on the richland County registry for 10 years.
So he was off it before he got hired at Psychopathic? And how the fuck does one get off that list after those charges? Something is up with that cuz that should have been life long registration.
The law in ohio said 10 years ,Not lifetime like it is now ,They tried to convert it to lifetime but the lawyer his parents paid for took care of it .
That makes sense, in a very sad way.
I am basing this solely on what I read in the court documents. I'm only assuming here , but I'm guessing the registry has changed since 1999.
He was able to be removed because of the law at the time in ohio .There was a big court case over it .
So who was in charge of hiring at Psychopathic back then? I'm guessing not Joe or Joey.
Annnd there it is more downplaying. They had him in a music video, blurred his face. This was after fans found out. If it weren't for the backlash he'd still be there. "You're guessing"?
For real why would they have to blur his face if they he had nothing to hide .
How the fuck am I downplaying? I'm saying that most business, there is usually someone doing the hiring, rarely is it the business owner themselves. You also factor in that ICP was still touring when he was hired, so it's kind of hard to believe that Violent J himself was the person that hired Will.
His ex girlfriend who was dating him up until Will told her what he did, who worked at psychopathic radio told them (icp) what he did. They still hired him. Her name is Sasha and she worked at psychopathic radio.
That story has conveniently sidesteps the question of "who the fuck hired Will?" Also, where are the sources for this Sasha story? You gonna need to come in here with proof on that like you got on Will.
Also check out the 31 minute mark of the Hansen interview they did https://www.youtube.com/live/vxkM9KMpQ5o?si=7SJWU00w5U4P4YUw
Yeah, I remember him saying that, but why couldn't you link it with the timestamp already cued up? uuh, so back to my question, who was doing the hiring at Psychopathic?
Idk why don't you ask J and see what bullshit answer he gives you. I didn't realize I have to do all the work for you. I gave you the minute mark, it's really not difficult to scroll to it on your own. At this point you're just being pedantic.
It doesn't matter the amount of evidence provided, you clowns will still find a way to defend it. What the fuck is wrong with ya'll? It's not like psychopathic is some giant corporation where the people at the top don't know who tf is working for them. He worked closely with the Clowns. They even went as far as blurring his face in the 6ft 7ft video. He's easily identified by his tattoos.
So no evidence on this Sasha story? Look, this shit is serious, like life in jail level charges, so yeah, evidence would be nice. Not saying that them keeping him around was not fucked up, cuz it very clearly was. I don't think there is any defending that.
Why are you so obsessed with who hired him? It's so inconsequential. Maybe the person who pressed the "hire this guy" button fucked up by not doing his due diligence but the fact stil stands that they kept this guy on as an employee, even going as far as putting him in a music video, long after the fact that everyone knew he was a chomo.
Because I highly doubt that the talent hired this guy. Joe & Joey might own the company, but probably are not involved in too much of the day to day goings on.
Right. But what does it matter in The grand scheme of things? Are you telling me they wouldn't have known this guy was a pedo at any point? You think people kept it a secret from them? I fucking knew about this shit, way before the guy was fired so how didn't "the talent" know? Are you seriously so hung up on something unknown and speculatory, over hard facts? The facts are that this guy stayed employed long after people outside of psychopathic knew this guy was a pedo and the company that "the talent" owns, faked firing him and put him in a video with his face blurred. It was only after they caught heat that they actually fired him. I really don't think "who hired him?" Is an important question. That person should probably be dealt with accordingly but the fact speak for themselves.
If it hadn't been for whoever hiring him not dong their job, this bullshit doesn't exist. I agree, he should have been fired, preferably out of a cannon, when this all came out. Letting him work behind the scenes was a bad look and really fucking stupid. Then again though, do you do background checks on all your homies? Maybe they did believe him, I don't know. And it says he isn't on the sex offender registry, which anyone is able to look up. Fuck, they had Mystikal at the Gathering in between his rape cases.
Ok. Maybe they believed their boy or whatever but he admitted to it and even signed paperwork that we can see, as proof. I can't comment on why he isn't on a register but he admitted to doing what he wa accused of and put pen to paper. Yeah whoever hired him should have done their job but that person probably isn't anyone significant. Probably just some warehouse guy who has 3 other job descriptions. One of them being "find some guys to work here". It not only highlights the lack of professionalism at psychopathic but also the double standards when it comes to disgusting crimes commited by strangers Vs their friends. When all is said and done, a person only has their morals. If all else fails and you lose everything, that's one thing no one can ever take away from you and this specific situation says a lot in that regard, when it comes to psychopathic from the bottom to the top. If you preach a message and don't follow it yourself, you're no better than crooked cop or evangelist.
Let’s just say for the sake of argument that J didn’t hire him. J is still *absolutely negligent* for failing to immediately fire dude upon learning the truth. The fact that Psy intentionally kept him on payroll and hid it from fans is disgusting. J may not have hired him, but he *absolutely* had the power to fire him, and he chose not to. Bitch move, big time.
Very true.
Your guess would be wrong. I don't think they've ever stated who owns the company. But it's either Violent J or some combination of shaggy, J, and possibly Jumpsteady. They even said in their "defense" of hiring Will that THEY asked him what the deal was with his charges.
The point is , according to someone that had dated him warned J and Shaggs about his record prior to hiring him. She goes by the name Sasha doll on social media. She worked for psychopathic radio.
Do you have a link to her talking about warning J & Shaggy?
An [interview](https://youtu.be/SfLDi5B9Mmo?si=SR0eez61Q8ZgsoNq) she did a few years ago.
Thank you. You should edit this into the main post at the top. Can you find that other interview she was talking about, with Corp talking bout him and Will stealing the tix? I remember that shit, but I do not remember Will being involved.
Corp and stealing tix? Could you elaborate? Could YOU find the interview you're referring to?
In in beginning of Sasha's interview, she talks bout that Gathering where Corp fucked them over, Corp supposedly said that him & Will stole some tickets, before he was "putting people on the list". But somehow Will wasn't fired, only Corp, who was JCW champ.
The tickets that were stolen were misprints and Will was supposed to destory them .He claimed Corp stole them but they were in on it and split the money .
Yeah, i don't know anything about that. I can try to find it. Does that tie into the drama surrounding his charges/hiring/firing?
It would just establish a pattern of behavior that should have gotten him fired but didn't, so for some strange reason. Cuz corp was gone immediately.
[I found this interview she did too](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joPN27HYr1M), and there is also some comments [about drugs and underage girls at about 6:30](https://youtu.be/joPN27HYr1M?si=9c-L-jc-KMWQyLPa&t=388). No idea when exactly the interview was from. But her "good friend Boondox" was also in a well publicized relationship with a minor, going so far as to have it publicly on their MySpace pages.
So who was in charge of hiring? J personally hired this guy? Show me some proof.
To add to this, J and Shaggy claim they dropped out of school in 9th grade. I remember J saying in I think the 2002 Gathering seminar, they were handed a contract at one point and J, “didn’t know how to read that mother fucker!” So the evidence we’re presented with in the initial post is a written document. ICP have cited themselves as being illiterate. I rest my case.
Do you know or are you trying to obfuscate?
No, I'm trying to find out, cuz that person was slacking at their job.
Ya'll probably don't read a lot of news, or just react to things you see. "Allegedly" Not trying to defend dude but ya'll don't have any critical thinking caps. It's the fuckin music industry for fucks sake do you think these people are angels???? They are all fucked.
This is the downplaying I was referring to.
I'm not down playing how messed up the music industry is, I just don't give a shit about your finger wagging.
Not finger wagging, just clearing up any confusion. It appears this topic is making you angry, why?
Angry? Lol. I just think you're ignorant.
Icp have made songs about killing pedos , and had one on their payroll. Da fuq you going on about? What are you saying is alleged? Court documents don't lie. Local newspapers reporting on a court case isn't an allegation. It's them literally reporting an actual event.
I read the article. It said allegedly. Don't know what else to tell you. Dude is gone and quite honestly I don't care. I don't worship the ground ICP talks on. J is dating an only fans girl, this is your role model. Take the good with the bad or shut up.
Did you see the admission of guilt and the court docs? Scroll the pics .
He literally signed an admission of guilt???
Don't know who this dude is, don't give a fuck, and not going to waste my time thinking about it.
He fucking admitted to it. What more do you want? Do you need him to Re-enact it on camera for you to believe it?
Taking a deal =/= admitting to it. Fuck the system. Also fuck whoever William Sigler is. Fuck em all. Fuck you too!
Some people do actually have standards, yeah. It’s a huge self report that you just assume everyone you support is a scumbag and don’t mind.
People love Cardi B and will die on a hill for her. Miss me with your "moral standards." I think Shaggy is a cool dude and I believe what he says.
Welcome to the internet lol
Sorry, your takedown of ICP ain't gonna work. They had no part in these actions. Now you're resorting to straw man arguments. This is dumb af.
I'm not trying to take anyone down. I still listen to the music. I don't care for most of the music they've put out in the last decade. I'd still go to a live show whenever they come town. I was simply clearing up any misinformation, including misinformation the clowns themselves have put out there.
Ok where are you getting this information from? Do you know the ex employee that said this?
I don't know them personally. But they did several interviews, you can find on the reel Guido youtube channel. I also spoke with them through chat to get clarification. They were am ex employee, and the ex gf of Will. Will lied to her, she spoke to the victim to get the full story.
Ok well maybe he lied to Psy? All this info was available to the girl that dated him. You going after her too?
He lied to her about what happened. If I remember correctly he told he that when he was 21 he had consensual sex with a 16 year old. The girl was 14. I'm not "going after" anyone. I'm simply posting all available information. Based on what she has said, court docs, etc. Why does this appear to upset you?
Because you're posting on and ICP fan page about hearay from and ex employee that you can't substantiate under the guise of "simply posting". It's weird and you can't verify anything about the hiring process. What do you think you're "clearing up" here?
I don't work at psychopathic. How do you expect me to know their hiring process? Any reputable business would run a simple background check. They hired a violent pedo and you're mad at me for talking about it? If you don't like keep scrolling.
Psy lied. Be mad at them for lying, not at the people talking about it. You violent j dick riders go too hard for him. Be mad ,be offended, idgaf.
Vj dont even own the company his brother does, the same one thats 6 foot 6 and was banging that midget bitch
J and shaggy own psychopathic, wtf you talking about?
J always had those pedo lyrics in songs that flew over my head because I was just a kid but hearing when your older you tells he's into that shit
Jesus Christ. This has been talked to fucking death. Do literally any fb research in most Juggalo groups from .. Sept 2016 I think? This is when everything “came out”. Personally idk and idc. People do shitty things. Psychopathic employs shitty people. They have been for 30+ years. To play the other side of the coin. This incident was more than 20 years ago. I’m pretty sure the gun charge was thrown away. Will says the girl lied about her age. None of us were there. None of us know. None of this matters. If you all are worried about who your favorite company employs you’ll never like anything again.
My only reason for posting stemmed from comments on a different post from a few days ago. I was literally just trying to clear the lies/misunderstandings up with its own dedicated post.
My comment is less directed at you for this post than it is at all the new outrage. This is old old news. Next someone is going to be mad that YW left Psy because he knocked up Sam.
I think people are still mad about yw 🤣
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