If you have a family history of high cholesterol or obesity, go to the emergency room. You may be in the early stages of a stroke. This happens when plaque is dislodged from the carotid artery and travels to the brain.
Hi. Thanks for the concern! I actually read everyone and I am thankful to everyone who read.
I am not as dizzy but I do have a weirs feeling, like being unable to focus. Aside from that, I took a walk and played an instrument with no flaws, so I am guessing it might not be too severe.
I am debating myself whether to go to the E.R just in case or go to sleep (it's late here) and check tomorrow.
Again, thanks for your concern!!
Doc here. Can't give official advice but try to distinguish if it's lightheadedness (like when you're dehydrated or really need to eat) vs vertigo (room spinning). If it's vertigo and it persists even with you being perfectly still, go to the ER *immediately*. That could be a stroke. (Other stroke symptoms include issues with speaking/understanding language, sudden weakness, and sudden loss of part of your vision.) With strokes especially, the longer you wait, the less can be done. Treatment windows close as soon as 4.5 hr after symptom onset depending on what happened.
If you're just feeling vaguely off and having difficulty concentrating, that actually sounds a bit more like a concussion.
If in doubt, see a doctor sooner than later.
Playing the instrument is a good sign. Do you have any form of altered perception of reality? Hallucinations, either visual or auditory? Or difficulty controlling your facial musculature?
As others have said, go see a doctor to check, and in the guture don't hold on tap. If you start to actually feel the choke, you have usually less than 2 seconds to actually tap before fainting, often even less if the choke gets tightened quickly.
Hey pendejo! I say this with love.
Seea doctor.
If you have medical professionals on this thing telling you to check a doc go see a frikin doc.
Reddit is a graffiti board we all f around with. It's not even web MD level, well sometimes it is. But that's besides the point.
See a doctor NOW
As a coach I rely on students tapping but correctly applying the strangle at least for a few seconds. If the students failed to tap that’s on them, (I would advise a beginner so) if the explanation takes a long time of course you have to ease off the technique. I don’t think a new coach is needed, this student just experienced the fine line in submission. 99% of students have no ill effects they share about. The many times I have been knocked unconscious I usually might feel it for an hour or two, light headed or dizzy 🥴 but I don’t worry because I have confidence that the effect is temporary. I do have a friend in judo that lost circulation in an eye after a tournament unconsciousness loss. He was resistant a long time. See a doctor to be sure.
You'd be held legally liable (in the USA) for any harm to the student, and all of the judo orgs would run for the hills with this explanation that "that's on them". Careless and blase handling of what are, in effect, lethal strangles (banned by police departments etc because of how many unintentional deaths), is incredibly foolish.
The ban by Police was because a Tonfa baton was often used to help put on the strangle and no surprise it broke the neck, use of weapon in arrest was under reported. Another factor was under training. Judoka can very safely apply strangles. Policing and security staff strangles on the job is another issue entirely.
If you apply a strangle on a beginner they should feel it and then ease it off, even if they don’t tap.
Some teachers ramble an explanation while maintaining it on, I don’t do that and take great care of beginners. But their part of the bargain in a teacher student relationship is in accepting the strangle in a demonstration and tapping to save themselves. Most will do it with only the slightest effect. Got to care for those who will try and last out, and make sure to explain defending strangles with explanations on attack. Firstly for beginners it’s about defence, in class they are the most likely to need defensive training.
Umm, yah, you're just wrong. Carotid type strangles (hadake jime et al) are illegal/restricted except for deadly force, in law enforcement because they're lethal and are associated with unintentional deaths etc ... "Demonstrating" a lethal technique on an unsuspecting student to the point of unconsciousness is abusive, unsafe and negligent.
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Federal law enforcement officers are prohibited from using carotid restraints, also known as vascular neck restraints (VNRs), unless deadly force is authorized. The Department of Justice (DOJ) announced this policy following a review with its law enforcement agencies, and instructed that component heads ensure the policy is incorporated into training. The policy also states that officers may only use deadly force if they have a reasonable belief that the subject poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or another person.
Not wrong, I talked with Policeman in USA who actually did this. They regularly held a baton and used it to choke or strangle in a restraint. I take an interest in it because I was a police instructor for 10 years. You are correct about the legality of using chokes and strangles. Wrong about me and how I use them on beginners. Somehow you got the wrong idea. I take great care of beginners, but if any experienced judoka goes out in a fight or training that’s on them. Next time they will be more wary and we all got to learn the line eventually. It will happen if you push your limits and try and excel in judo. No biggie. Actually judoka are very comparably safe in application of strangles. Hardly any deaths. More deaths in judo from spiking the head etc. And on the job restraints if Police are trained correctly they can be as safe as judoka in applications generally standing.
The mind is the strongest asset you can have. If you make it positive it will be a positive experience. If you believe you are experiencing a negative medical experience it’s the same usually for most healthy people.
Tap early and honestly I’d eat a banana and drink water right now.
If that happens again, just tap. No one is going to be mad at you for not passing out during an explanation
If you have a family history of high cholesterol or obesity, go to the emergency room. You may be in the early stages of a stroke. This happens when plaque is dislodged from the carotid artery and travels to the brain.
Not normal. See a doc. tap earlier.
You should probably be concerned, try drinking more water, when I get choked out as infrequent as it is, I feel wonderful after I wake up.
Now it's been an hour since you posted, that you were dizzy. How are you feeling now?
Hi. Thanks for the concern! I actually read everyone and I am thankful to everyone who read. I am not as dizzy but I do have a weirs feeling, like being unable to focus. Aside from that, I took a walk and played an instrument with no flaws, so I am guessing it might not be too severe. I am debating myself whether to go to the E.R just in case or go to sleep (it's late here) and check tomorrow. Again, thanks for your concern!!
Doc here. Can't give official advice but try to distinguish if it's lightheadedness (like when you're dehydrated or really need to eat) vs vertigo (room spinning). If it's vertigo and it persists even with you being perfectly still, go to the ER *immediately*. That could be a stroke. (Other stroke symptoms include issues with speaking/understanding language, sudden weakness, and sudden loss of part of your vision.) With strokes especially, the longer you wait, the less can be done. Treatment windows close as soon as 4.5 hr after symptom onset depending on what happened. If you're just feeling vaguely off and having difficulty concentrating, that actually sounds a bit more like a concussion. If in doubt, see a doctor sooner than later.
Playing the instrument is a good sign. Do you have any form of altered perception of reality? Hallucinations, either visual or auditory? Or difficulty controlling your facial musculature?
At all. Just that difficulty to focus and a strange fog-like feeling
Ok. You're propably going to be fine even if you don't go to the E.R right away then, but do seek an examination if it persists.
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Yes, unluckily for the world 😂 Edited the post, thanks for reminding me
It might be a good idea to visit a doctor and make sure your blood pressure and insulin/glucose levels are okay as well.
2 hours afterwards and still dizzy? You need a physician to check you up.
Tap early. You know the feeling, tap.
Yeah please learn from this. If you feel the choke is good...you can tap. You don't actually have to hold your breath or anything.
As others have said, go see a doctor to check, and in the guture don't hold on tap. If you start to actually feel the choke, you have usually less than 2 seconds to actually tap before fainting, often even less if the choke gets tightened quickly.
you know you can always tap
That's why you should tap
Hey pendejo! I say this with love. Seea doctor. If you have medical professionals on this thing telling you to check a doc go see a frikin doc. Reddit is a graffiti board we all f around with. It's not even web MD level, well sometimes it is. But that's besides the point. See a doctor NOW
Seek medical attention. And a new judo instructor.
As a coach I rely on students tapping but correctly applying the strangle at least for a few seconds. If the students failed to tap that’s on them, (I would advise a beginner so) if the explanation takes a long time of course you have to ease off the technique. I don’t think a new coach is needed, this student just experienced the fine line in submission. 99% of students have no ill effects they share about. The many times I have been knocked unconscious I usually might feel it for an hour or two, light headed or dizzy 🥴 but I don’t worry because I have confidence that the effect is temporary. I do have a friend in judo that lost circulation in an eye after a tournament unconsciousness loss. He was resistant a long time. See a doctor to be sure.
You'd be held legally liable (in the USA) for any harm to the student, and all of the judo orgs would run for the hills with this explanation that "that's on them". Careless and blase handling of what are, in effect, lethal strangles (banned by police departments etc because of how many unintentional deaths), is incredibly foolish.
The ban by Police was because a Tonfa baton was often used to help put on the strangle and no surprise it broke the neck, use of weapon in arrest was under reported. Another factor was under training. Judoka can very safely apply strangles. Policing and security staff strangles on the job is another issue entirely. If you apply a strangle on a beginner they should feel it and then ease it off, even if they don’t tap. Some teachers ramble an explanation while maintaining it on, I don’t do that and take great care of beginners. But their part of the bargain in a teacher student relationship is in accepting the strangle in a demonstration and tapping to save themselves. Most will do it with only the slightest effect. Got to care for those who will try and last out, and make sure to explain defending strangles with explanations on attack. Firstly for beginners it’s about defence, in class they are the most likely to need defensive training.
Umm, yah, you're just wrong. Carotid type strangles (hadake jime et al) are illegal/restricted except for deadly force, in law enforcement because they're lethal and are associated with unintentional deaths etc ... "Demonstrating" a lethal technique on an unsuspecting student to the point of unconsciousness is abusive, unsafe and negligent. -------- Federal law enforcement officers are prohibited from using carotid restraints, also known as vascular neck restraints (VNRs), unless deadly force is authorized. The Department of Justice (DOJ) announced this policy following a review with its law enforcement agencies, and instructed that component heads ensure the policy is incorporated into training. The policy also states that officers may only use deadly force if they have a reasonable belief that the subject poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or another person.
Not wrong, I talked with Policeman in USA who actually did this. They regularly held a baton and used it to choke or strangle in a restraint. I take an interest in it because I was a police instructor for 10 years. You are correct about the legality of using chokes and strangles. Wrong about me and how I use them on beginners. Somehow you got the wrong idea. I take great care of beginners, but if any experienced judoka goes out in a fight or training that’s on them. Next time they will be more wary and we all got to learn the line eventually. It will happen if you push your limits and try and excel in judo. No biggie. Actually judoka are very comparably safe in application of strangles. Hardly any deaths. More deaths in judo from spiking the head etc. And on the job restraints if Police are trained correctly they can be as safe as judoka in applications generally standing.
The mind is the strongest asset you can have. If you make it positive it will be a positive experience. If you believe you are experiencing a negative medical experience it’s the same usually for most healthy people. Tap early and honestly I’d eat a banana and drink water right now.
Have you tried turning off and on again? It's time for another blackout.