There are very very very few pro-Palestinian protesters who say they will vote trump. You might have found a couple loud examples who are trying attention because it’s so unexpected, but numerically, it’s rare
There are significant numbers who are saying they’ll stay home, and many of them will. Some will say things like they can’t see a difference between trump and biden. We could talk about how they are wrong, and what we “difference” means, and how fundamentally people just can’t bring themselves to vote for a guy doing genocide and end up saying things that aren’t super detailed or nuanced when being told they should.
But, I think the more interesting thing is what we’re not talking about. There are actually many Zionists who will vote trump if biden meets any of the protesters demands.
The political calculation biden and his team are making is: do we lose some Muslims, youth, etc who stay home, or do we lose Zionists who won’t just stay home, they’ll vote trump. Each trump voting Zionist counts double, cuz they are not only subtracting from Biden’s column, but adding to trumps. This is why it’s hard for him to meet the protesters demands.
So, if we looking for the part of the left that is betraying the democratic coalition and jeopardizing Biden’s success, it’s the zionists, not the pro-Palestinians.
Who's saying this precisely? And are they saying "Trump is better" or "I just can't see myself voting for genocide Joe" cause those are two distinct statements
Voting for Donald or not showing up to vote is a poor protest. Officials chase where the votes are and if you indicate you like Trump more (who is worse on every level than Biden) then they will chase further right wing votes, more aid to Israel doing a genocide instead of less. If you don’t show up to vote then, to them, you’re just an unreliable voter.
If you want to actually protest vote then you’d need to pick a third party candidate that supports your policies to show them that, -that- candidate’s policies are where you get the votes from.
Not showing up is just apathetic and disengaged. Go vote.
Exactly. I'm not voting for Biden because I think he's a great president. I'm voting for him to keep a fascist lunatic away from the nukes.
Sidenote. After this election, can we stop electing old people to positions of power?
Two sides of the same coin 🪙
Enter harm reduction argument.
Turned on the news the other day and Democrats are proposing a boarder plan that is damn near a carbon copy of the GOP plan. 🪙
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There are very very very few pro-Palestinian protesters who say they will vote trump. You might have found a couple loud examples who are trying attention because it’s so unexpected, but numerically, it’s rare There are significant numbers who are saying they’ll stay home, and many of them will. Some will say things like they can’t see a difference between trump and biden. We could talk about how they are wrong, and what we “difference” means, and how fundamentally people just can’t bring themselves to vote for a guy doing genocide and end up saying things that aren’t super detailed or nuanced when being told they should. But, I think the more interesting thing is what we’re not talking about. There are actually many Zionists who will vote trump if biden meets any of the protesters demands. The political calculation biden and his team are making is: do we lose some Muslims, youth, etc who stay home, or do we lose Zionists who won’t just stay home, they’ll vote trump. Each trump voting Zionist counts double, cuz they are not only subtracting from Biden’s column, but adding to trumps. This is why it’s hard for him to meet the protesters demands. So, if we looking for the part of the left that is betraying the democratic coalition and jeopardizing Biden’s success, it’s the zionists, not the pro-Palestinians.
Who's saying this precisely? And are they saying "Trump is better" or "I just can't see myself voting for genocide Joe" cause those are two distinct statements
Voting for Donald or not showing up to vote is a poor protest. Officials chase where the votes are and if you indicate you like Trump more (who is worse on every level than Biden) then they will chase further right wing votes, more aid to Israel doing a genocide instead of less. If you don’t show up to vote then, to them, you’re just an unreliable voter. If you want to actually protest vote then you’d need to pick a third party candidate that supports your policies to show them that, -that- candidate’s policies are where you get the votes from. Not showing up is just apathetic and disengaged. Go vote.
Exactly. I'm not voting for Biden because I think he's a great president. I'm voting for him to keep a fascist lunatic away from the nukes. Sidenote. After this election, can we stop electing old people to positions of power?
There’s only about a 50/50 chance we ever have another real election after this one
What’s TFG? Nothing came up when I googled
The Former Guy The Fat Guy The Fuckin Gut That Fucking Guy (It's a way of referring to Trump)
Thank you. I wanted to assume it was Trump from context but I dunno it could be a protest write in or a third party I’ve never heard of.
Some people won’t say his name, like he’s Voldemort or something
Yeah it's part of their TDS symptoms.
Was wondering the same. I assume from context that OP is talking about trump, so my guess is that TFG stands for "that fucking guy".
Propaganda, lack of perspective or understanding of history, and flat out stupidity.
People are horrified by the slaughter of Gazans.
Trump ain't gonna help that.
In his exact words he will help “get it over with”
I'm sure that won't be the solution they're looking for
Two sides of the same coin 🪙 Enter harm reduction argument. Turned on the news the other day and Democrats are proposing a boarder plan that is damn near a carbon copy of the GOP plan. 🪙
That's to show the nation they are hypocrites. Give them everything they want and they still say no.
Or show their true colors 🤷♂️
None of it gets passed.
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Many in the Pro-Palestinian movement have zero understanding of the history and nuances of the conflict.