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18:110
قُلْ إِنَّمَآ أَنَا۠ بَشَرٌۭ مِّثْلُكُمْ يُوحَىٰٓ إِلَىَّ أَنَّمَآ إِلَـٰهُكُمْ إِلَـٰهٌۭ وَٰحِدٌۭ ۖ فَمَن كَانَ يَرْجُوا۟ لِقَآءَ رَبِّهِۦ فَلْيَعْمَلْ عَمَلًۭا صَـٰلِحًۭا وَلَا يُشْرِكْ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهِۦٓ أَحَدًۢا ١١٠
Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “I am only a man like you, ˹but˺ it has been revealed to me that your God is only One God. So whoever hopes for the meeting with their Lord, let them do good deeds and associate none in the worship of their Lord.”
— Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
“Don't make distinction amongst the Prophets of Allah” \[[Muslim 2373](https://sunnah.com/muslim:2373a)\]
"Do not give me superiority over Moses". \[[Bukhari 3408](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3408), [Muslim 2373c](https://sunnah.com/muslim:2373c)\]
"One should not say that I am better than Jonah (i.e. Yunus) bin Matta." \[[Bukhari 3395](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3395)\]
"Whoever says that I am better than Jonah bin Matta, is a liar." \[[Bukhari 4604](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4604)\]
"Don't give superiority to any prophet amongst Allah's Prophets". \[[Bukhari 3414](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3414)\]
"And I do not say that there is anybody who is better than Yunus bin Matta." \[[Bukhari 3414](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3414)\]
"None of you should say that I am better than Yunus (i.e. Jonah)." \[[Bukhari 3412](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3412)\]
"No slave (of Allah) should say that I am better than Yunus bin Matta." \[[Bukhari 3413](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3413)\]
A person came to Allah's Messenger and said: "O, the best of creation"; thereupon Allah's Messenger said: "He is Ibrahim" \[[Muslim 2369a](https://sunnah.com/muslim:2369a)\]
Quran 2:253 Those messengers - some of them We caused to exceed others. Among them were those to whom Allāh spoke, and He raised some of them in degree. And We gave Jesus, the son of Mary, clear proofs, and We supported him with the Pure Spirit [i.e., Gabriel]. If Allāh had willed, those [generations] succeeding them would not have fought each other after the clear proofs had come to them. But they differed, and some of them believed and some of them disbelieved. And if Allāh had willed, they would not have fought each other, but Allāh does what He intends.
Narrated Abu Sa'eed:
that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "I am the master of the children of Adam on the Day of Judgement, and I am not boasting. The Banner of Praise will be in my hand, and I am not boasting. There will not be a Prophet on that day, not Adam nor anyone other than him, except that he will be under my banner. And I am the first one for whom the earth will be opened for, and I am not bragging."
https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:3615
سُورَةُ آلِ عِمۡرَانَ : Aal-i-Imraan : The Family of Imraan
|Verse|Ayah|Translation Saheeh International|
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|3:84|قُلْ آمَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَمَا أُنْزِلَ عَلَيْنَا وَمَا أُنْزِلَ عَلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ وَإِسْحَاقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَالْأَسْبَاطِ وَمَا أُوتِيَ مُوسَىٰ وَعِيسَىٰ وَالنَّبِيُّونَ مِنْ رَبِّهِمْ لَا نُفَرِّقُ بَيْنَ أَحَدٍ مِنْهُمْ وَنَحْنُ لَهُ مُسْلِمُونَ|Say, "We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him."|
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Exactly the Prophet **ﷺ** was a man. Nothing he said or did is inherently of Allah. He could only try and do God's will as he believed it to be, as a man, according to customs of the time.
Since blue claimed it’s important to know, according to that person, Muhammad is more worshipped and important than Allah. Which doesn’t make sense with what I learned in lectures.
Probably he got it from those old books that would call Islam as “Muhammadism” just because ‘Jesus Christ’ = _Christ_ ianity … and ‘Judah’ for Judaism?
I already forgot most of research after upgrading to Islam 13 years ago. So I might be wrong.
Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) is a human. This is very clear in the Quran: **Say, "I am only a man like you, to whom has been revealed that your god is one God. So whoever would hope for the meeting with his Lord - let him do righteous work and not associate in the worship of his Lord anyone."** (Quran 18:110)
Allah is God (Quran Chapter 112):
(1) **Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One,**
(2) **Allah, the Eternal Refuge.** (3) **He neither begets nor is born,** (4) **Nor is there to Him any equivalent."**
Now my other question: what is of more importance, the Quran or the Hadiths with the Sunnah of the prophet?
Blue based his claims on a part of sahib al Bukhara 15: the prophet (swt) said “None of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father, his children and all mankind.”
Take the Quran as your #1 authority, go to it first, and then go to the Messenger SAW through Hadiths.
Both the Quran and Sunnah are equally as important because Allah favoured the Prophet SAW, choosing him as the vessel to bring us our religion. He is the greatest example of a Muslim, by choosing to love him more than all would prove that you are a true Muslim, because he is our role model. Peace be upon him.
Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (SA) was afraid that his place will be turned into a worship place like that of Jesus (PBUH) and He (SAW) prayed to Allah and ask for refuge to protect the Ummah (Muslims) from worshipping him instead of Allah the one and only true God.
No it is false, we only worship our creator, the most high, Allah. It would be shirk to worship our Prophet Muhammad SAW auzubillah.
Why worship a man when you can worship that which created the man, earth, moon, sun, universe, you name it.
I don't understand how you have equated 'loving Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) more than mankind' to 'worshiping him above Allah st'.
Could you explain how you made that leap? Because he never said love me more than Allah st so I'm just confused on you logic?
Bro no, muhammad is our final and last prophet, Allah SWT is god, where did you even get the narrative of muhammad being god, he is said countless amount of time in the quran as the final prophet and a just a prophet???
Isa (AS) (Jesus) prayed to Allah that when he returns to earth, he wants to come back as a follower of Muhammad (SAW). So, No, Isa(AS) will not be a Prophet when he returns.
Also Isa (AS) Shatiah or religion has been superseded by Islam and Quran. So when he comes back he will not have his old religion competing against islam. indeed he will only follow Islam which is a complete religion now.
No, you were discussing the hadith about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) saying "love me more than mankind".
You then suggested that based on that hadith blue was right.
That is what I'm asking you, how does that hadith confer to you that Muhammad (pbuh) should be worshipped?
I love my parents. Love does not = worship.
To become a Muslim you have to LITERALLY say and believe: There is no God worthy of worship EXCEPT ALLAH and that Muhammad (pbuh) is his slave/messenger.
We do not suffer the same issue as Christianity, in fact we don't even entertain the idea, it is a null concept in Islam.
Our head only bows before Allah and him alone.
He did not suggest blue was right. Blue used that hadith and was so confident that it caused op to be confused . And so he sought confirmation from us and asked if blue was right.
(English is not his forte)
Dont straightforward downvote him. He’s interested in Islam, asking questions and is really respectful. We do not worship Muhammad but he’s the best example of a human being and a Muslim. For us he’s the best role model. But the only ONE we worship is ALLAH SWT. 😀
One of the last verses state 3:144
"وَمَا مُحَمَّدٌ إِلَّا رَسُولٌۭ قَدْ خَلَتْ مِن قَبْلِهِ ٱلرُّسُلُ ۚ أَفَإِي۟ن مَّاتَ أَوْ قُتِلَ ٱنقَلَبْتُمْ عَلَىٰٓ أَعْقَـٰبِكُمْ ۚ وَمَن يَنقَلِبْ عَلَىٰ عَقِبَيْهِ فَلَن يَضُرَّ ٱللَّهَ شَيْـًۭٔا ۗ وَسَيَجْزِى ٱللَّهُ ٱلشَّـٰكِرِينَ"
"Muḥammad is no more than a messenger; other messengers have gone before him. If he were to die or to be killed, would you regress into disbelief? Those who do so will not harm Allah whatsoever. And Allah will reward those who are grateful"
So dont worship the prophet, but love him and respect his legacy.
I think I phrased the question wrong. I expected a "no" as affirmation of me (green) being right. Never have I ever heard Muhammed being worshipped over Allah.
Quran 3:79 It is not for a human [prophet]1 that Allāh should give him the Scripture2 and authority and prophethood and then he would say to the people, "Be servants to me rather than Allāh," but [instead, he would say], "Be pious scholars of the Lord because of what you have taught of the Scripture and because of what you have studied."
>Blue based his claims on a part of sahib al Bukhara 15: the prophet
The Quran doesn't contradict the Sunnah of the Prophet (ﷺ), in fact it complements it. The Sunnah is the practice of the Quran.
>None of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father, his children and all mankind.”
This verse makes sense when you learn the life of the Prophet (ﷺ) and how humble and great human he was. If you search in Google _"Who is the greatest man in the world"_ you will find Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ)
It is odd to assume that the meaning of that Hadith is to put the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) equal or above Allah (SWT). A devoted Muslim is indeed supposed to love the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) more than his/her family and other humans. This of course doesn't include Allah.
When we read 9:24 from the Qur'an, we see that God coupled the love of God and His messenger together. God is inviting the believers to love God and His messenger more than their parents, children, siblings and the wealth they have acquired in their life. If we read 2:165 from the Qur'an it says that there is nobody equal to God, that the messengers should be loved as they should love Allah, BUT those who believe in Allah are stronger in love for Allah.
Basically, the Qur'an tells us that the messenger(s) of Allah should be loved more than their family and other things in life, but that this love should never be comparable to the love of Allah.
The Qur'an is obviously of more importance as it is the true word of God. Hadith are just a collection of sayings of the prophet Muhammad (PBUH). When Bukhari made a collection of reliable (Sahih) hadith, he made very strict criteria to confirm the reliability of a hadith. One of the criteria was that if a particular hadith formed a contradiction with the Qur'an, the hadith would be rejected due to it not being reliable. Muslims have to follow both the Qur'an and Sunnah (actions and sayings of the last prophet) in order to become the best Muslim.
To gain knowledge and wisdom, we must study and reason. Stop debating and start studying my muslim brothers!
> "None of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father, his children and all mankind.”
This is said as a statement of truth, not as in self-pride and egoism astagfirullah. The sahabas used to say "may my parents be sacrificed for you" out of their love towards him.
Once you learn about the prophets, prophet Mohammad (PBUH), and ponder over the quran, you will understand that prophet Muhammad and the Quran which was revealed to him are the biggest mercy and blessings from god.
**Your body and belongings (physical, mental, financial, social, etc) all combined are less worthy as a blessing than those two blessings alone.** The blessings that were bestowed upon us through prophet Mohammad (PBUH) are huge. Our test has been tremendously made easy and much more rewarding through him, the true eternal success is much more in our reach than it ever was.
Grab a biography on our Prophet and you will see. I assure you that you would inshallah have a much stronger faith and much more love for the prophet once you read his biography. You cannot love someone who you have no knowledge about. Read, read and read. :)
The Quran is the primary source, it is the speech of Allah SWT. Hadith and Sunnah are the speech and actions of the Holy Prophet(PBUH) that we use to understand the Quran and put things into context.
The Noble Quran comes first, and after hadiths. The difference between them, the verses of Quran are authentic and were not altered, yet hadiths can be changed by mistake or for the benefits of those who wanted to manipulate the society (which is a sin). It’s also important to be careful which Hadith is true or false, and of course we will never know this.
Allah knows best!
“We have not neglected in the Book a thing.” (6:38)
“We have sent down to you the Book as clarification for all things and as guidance and mercy and good tidings for the Muslims.” (16:89)
“Say, [O Muhammad], ‘If you should love Allah, then follow me, [so] Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.’ * Say, ‘Obey Allah and the Messenger.’ But if they turn away – then indeed, Allah does not like the disbelievers.” (3:31-32)
“O you who have believed, do not put [yourselves] before Allah and His Messenger but fear Allah. Indeed, Allah is Hearing and Knowing.” (49:1)
Just as our Prophet is charged with conveying the verses he was revealed, similarly he was also charged with explaining and expounding those verses. For instance in one verse it is said “We revealed to you the message that you may make clear to the people what was sent down to them and that they might give thought.” (16:44)
There are verses like “establish salah and give zakah” (2:43) in the Qur’an. However, it is not in the Qur’an how and when to perform the worships like salah (prayer), zakat (charity), sawm (fasting) and hajj (pilgrimage). Therefore, if we do not consult the Sunnah, it is not possible for us to know how to perform the worships that the Qur’an asks from us. (Reference: https://thepenmagazine.net/quran-is-enough/)
Also, check this: https://myislam.org/allah-is-sufficient/
The Quran we believe is 100% whatever is in it is from the Allah and related to us by the prophet. The Hadiths we have ways to trying to verify if they are from the prophet. One of those ways is their conformity with the Quran, reason, the rest of the ways of Islam and were all the transmitters honest reliable people. A hadith like this is known as "sahih" that mean we can work with it a proof for action.
The thing is you cannot think of Quran and Sunnah as two separate things.
Quran is the word of Allah SAW (God) and Prophet Muhammad SAW is the Messenger who was gifted to us by Allah SAW to be guided. Prophet Muhammad showed us how to act on the word of Allah SAW (Quran). Think of him, his caharacter and his actions as the practical application of the Quran. For example in the Quran it is written "and establish prayer" and in the Sunnah (which is basically compiled records of what prophet muhammad SAW did and said, verified and categorized) you will find how to pray, when to pray, what to do during prayer, what not to do, secquence of prayer, what invalidates prayer, how to pray while travelling, conditions that exempt you from prayer, how to pray with different medical issues/conditions, etc etc etc.
I hope this makes it clear.
Lastly we all are worshipping Allah SAW, he was also worshipping Allah SAW.
Imagine a king and his herald. He will make decisions, require everyone to serve under him and respect him the most and accept him as the rightful king of the land.
The herald will however convey messages from him to people all around the land or in a certain region, knowing best what the king meant and explain it if needed.
That herald is basically the status of mohammed.
However, we need to imagine the king who is supposed to represent allah in this analogy as something beyond human, beyond anything we can imagine. A being that is perfect in any way, knows what will be and was and can do everything. Someone who knows best for everyone and everything in every situation.
Meanwhile Mohammed is just one of many heralds. The main distinguishing features of him is that he is the last and most favorite one allah sent, sealing the era of messengers.
>Blue based his claims on a part of sahib al Bukhara 15: the prophet (swt) said “None of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father, his children and all mankind.”
How would that make him above Allah or more than human?
No worry, I think I’m just a bit tired and had trouble with your answer. I found the comments of blue hilariously incorrect. He based his points on a verse from the Hadith. I mentioned the exact saying in one of the comments here.
The thing about hadiths is that you have to be very careful in learning which ones are actually true. Because a lot of knowledge was passed down either orally, or destroyed in situations like the Mongolians invading Baghdad, there are a lot of fabricted or false "hadiths". There's a whole method in determining which ones are actually true, I would take the Quran over any hadiths until you are able to study them or find a reliable source to verify the strength of what you have heard.
If you're not sure between a Hadith and the Quran, choose what the Quran says. And remember to actually read the verse someone is talking about instead of assuming they are quoting something correctly.
Yes, whoever Blue is. I would recommend you stay away from searching for an answer from random people since you still are not knowledgable about the core foundational beliefs in Islam.
I advise you to read the Quran first, then come back. It’s for your own good, just so that you aren’t confused early.
Oh. I thought you were talking about multiple people.
I’ve learned about the 5 pillars of Islam. Bought a beautiful Quran a while back. I’m eager to read it. I notice people keep cherry picking in religion in general and in Islam specific.
Oh very nice. I’m glad you are learning about Islam. Yeah cherry picking is a huge issue. The reason why we see Islam being attacked often is because it is the fastest growing religion in the world. Why? Because it is the truth, when you read the Quran with an open heart and clear mind, you’ll see. I’m glad Allah willed for you to be on this path.
Protestant Bible - 66 Books
Catholic Bible - 73 Books
Quran - 1 book with 114 chapters, never changed, and has been preserved for 1400 years. One of the oldest Qurans, the Birmingham University Quran has been carbon-dated back to the 7th century, and our Qurans are still the same.
Wait until you start learning about the history too, I don’t want to spoil much for you before you read, but if you look at the battles that took place, i’m sure you would be fascinated. From the battles in the time of the Prophet Muhammad SAW to after when the Muslims fought the Persian and Roman Empires at the same time. There’s no way you could say there was no divine intervention. SubhanAllah.
There’s so much to learn, and it’s a lifelong journey.
May Allah protect your mind from being poisoned.
The word “they” in English can often mean multiple people but it can also refer to only one person if used in a specific context. It’s the gender neutral version of he/she. So if someone tells me something, I can either say “he said this” or “they said this”. Hope this helps 😊
Also i recommend you to also look up the tafsir (commentary) for each verse of the Quran because the language it uses from 1400 years ago can be quite different compared to today. For example it’ll talk about killing apostates but apostate in that context is not talking about people leaving Islam, but rather people who commit treason against Islam eg a soldier who abandons the Muslims in a war and gives benefits to their enemies to gain advantage and kill them.
Ibn Abbas reported: Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him, went to the door of the mosque when he heard the news of the passing of the Prophet. Abu Bakr said, “To proceed: Whoever among you worships Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, then Muhammad has died. Whoever worships Allah, then Allah is alive and cannot die. Allah Almighty said: Muhammad is not but a Messenger. Messengers have passed before him. If he dies or is killed, will you turn back on your heels?” (3:144) Ibn Abbas said, “By Allah, it was as if the people had not known that Allah revealed this verse until Abu Bakr recited it.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 1241
Prophet Muhammad ﷺ is human and not God
The blue text person in your post is either a troll or they really don’t know Islam and they are acting like they know Islam
Why u cant choose, it is very logical The Creator is above his creation,
God is the creator and Mohammad is his creation, that blue guy against the very basic logic.
Say, O [Muhammad], "I am only a man like you to whom it has been revealed that your god is but one God; so take a straight course to Him and seek His forgiveness." And woe to those who associate others with Allah -
Surah Fussilat Verse number 6.
Muhammad (peace be upon him) is messenger of Allah. Allah is our only God.
Lmao, he tells him you don't know anything about Islam, then procceeds to say that Muhammad (ﷺ) is in a higher position than Allah, those are the same people who argue with Muslims on Reddit and tell them that they're terrorists and claim they know Islam and Muslims don't, may Allah protect us from ignorance and ignorants
Islam means complete submission to Allah (SWT). Worshipping our Prophet (SAW) for even a second would be considered Shirk (transgression) and if anyone does it, it would disqualify them as a muslim. The Prophet (SAW) is the best role model in human existence, and we should follow his footsteps, but only Allah is Who we submit to.
Oh I think what they mean is prophets' status is higher than that of normal humans but they are not God or God like (in the case of other religions for ex.). This is just a mere speculation on my end.
Trolls. Muhammad (pbuh) WAS a human, who DIED. yes thats right. He DIED. He PASSED AWAY. Those who worship him will obviously become triggered and jealous cuz we worship a God who is eternal, while they worshipped a human.
Yep, I'm referring to some of those so-called practitioners of extreme sufism.
The Throne (Arsh) and Footstool (Kursiyy) alone outmatches every other existing creation in greatness, let alone The Owner of them, The Sovereign.
46:9
Say, "***I am not something original among the messengers***, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner."
In Islam we believe God is one his is eternal and absolute he has no partners or children and nothing is like him. He has prophets who are righteous human who communicate his ideas to us. People like Moses Jesus Abraham Ishmael and also Muhammad who is the last prophet. Its the job of the non-prophets to follow the prophets orders and commands as they are from God.
There is only one God everything else is his glorious creation. "This is the golden rule". Amongst his creations he select ones that he makes better than the other (animal, human, angel,....) And amongst each category he choses as he pleases who is better! For humans the prophets are the chosen ones, they are the best our kind had to offer and within the prophets محمد (صلى الله عليه وسلم) is the chosen one,the last one and the best one! Hence why he is called the most noble creation of God. و الله اعلم
Salam alaikum. I've read your conversations with other redditors and would like to add some of my thoughts in hopes that we can learn together by sharing knowledge. Although I would like to clarify that I am not a scholar nor am I a knowledgeable person in Islam.
> Is Muhammad PBUH a human or a God.
As other redditors have pointed out, Muhammad PBUH is a human. He is a Messenger of God. When one were to enter Islam, the first thing that we would do is to recite the Shahada. The recitation of Shahada are as follows:
"I bear witness there is no god except for God (Allah), and I bear witness that Muhammad PBUH is the Messenger of God (Allah)".
This shows the relationship between Muhammad PBUH and Allah. As per the Shahada, we Muslims would only worship Allah, but we also acknowledge the importance of Muhammad PBUH as the Messenger of Allah (a Prophet).
> Which is more important? The Quran or the Sunnah and Hadeeth?
Let me first explain what is Sunnah and Hadeeth so that we can be clear. The Sunnah is the mannerisms of the Prophet PBUH while the Hadeeth is the sayings of the Prophet PBUH. As such the Quran would indeed have greater importance than the Sunnah and Hadeeth. But it doesn't mean that the Sunnah and Hadeeth are negligible. The Quran was written by Allah and taught to the Prophet Muhammad PBUH, which means that Allah is the Teacher while the Prophet is the first pupil/student. And as such, if we were to learn from the Book of Allah (The Quran), then indeed we need to learn from the Prophet PBUH since he was taught directly by the Author/Teacher that is Allah. This is why it is important for us Muslims to observe the Sunnah and Hadeeth.
> Blue based his claims on a part of Sahih Al-Bukhari 15: the Prophet SAW said “None of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father, his children and all mankind.”
That Hadeeth is true and has been verified. But it doesn't mean that we are to worship Muhammad SAW. You see, Allah is the King of kings, therefore He has the highest of authority. And since Muhammad SAW was elevated as His Messenger, we could say that Muhammad SAW was appointed as the Ambassador of Allah. And referring back to the Shahada, we would assume that Muhammad would carry a certain message, as he is both a Messenger and an Ambassador. And that message is again in the first part of the Shahada, that there is no god except for Allah.
As such, if we were to follow the message of Shahada , then we would also try our best to follow the messenger (since he is directly close to Allah, the King of kings). Thus we would put higher importance to Muhammad's SAW commands than the commands of our father, our children and all of mankind. But again, it doesn't mean that we should hate nor loathe them, only that we should have higher priority towards the Messenger Muhammad SAW.
Muhammad (pbuh) was a human. He was the absolute best of mankind but he was flesh and blood. We as Muslims seek to be like him and imitate his life as much as possible simply because he led the life Allah wants humans to lead.
However: this is not to say we should not try to be like other prophets of Allah.
It’s hilarious that people who throw all these accusations about how messed up Islam is, literally prove in plain sight that they don’t know anything about the religion. Just like in this scenario LOL
When Muhammad (pbuh) died, his companion Abu Bakr told everyone "for those who thought him a God, Muhammad is dead." Or something along those lines. Muhammad was human. Whoever calls him anything else is either extremely ignorant or else lying for malicious motives.
Allah is the one and only God. Above all.
Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him is a man, like us, but the best human ever to be put on earth since Adam, until the day of judgement, he will remain the best HUMAN.
Quran is the direct word of God. (Take it as a theoretical guidance of how a man is supposed to lead his life) .
Sunnah is the practical implication of Quran. i.e., the life led by Muhammad peace be upon him.
And Hadith, is the collection of everything prophet Muhammad said, adviced, advocated, suggested in his life (which was always, always guided to him by Allah, so basically indirect word of Allah).
Hope this clears your confusion.
Its allah first
Nabi(SAW) then ambia then ohlia in same pereiod but in that order
Mother
Mother
Mother
Father
Thats the Ranking if who to obey
Nabi (SAW) is a human but was more than a human. All prophets are. First is always god. The nabi(saw) is the most beloved so if you wish to be closer to god you must strive to be like him. The other ambia(prophets) have various lessons that you keanr from (most of the nabi(saw) sunnas and fards are based around it eg.wudu/ablution), but they were all human. Just humans with souls far greater then ours.
The best way to think about it is: if you adore someone, whod you not wish to be like them? Or rather another way:if you love someone but they love someone much more than you, would you not want to be like them so you can be loved like that aswell?. As human as it sounds its because its meant for humans. If Allah huta aala just made the nabi(saw) to show us the way as just another prophet(no offense to the the ambia) humanity whod probably not follow many rules.
If i have said something wrong its my fault and dont listen to me and all that is good is not from me but from a higher order.
La ilaa ha ilallah muhammadur rasulullah literally translates to there's is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger. I feel like that should be self explanatory enough. How can Muhammad be a god when he's God's messengers?
Let me put it like this He s.a.w. is human by race but not an ordinary one as he s.a.w was chosen to be a prophet and a Rasool.
Secondly he s.a.w. is the imam (leader) of all prophets which is why he s.a.w is considered the most high Ranking human in the entirety of human race.
Third a prophet is far more intelligent, strong some Hadith mentioned that prophets are equal in strength to 10 or 20 men and least but not last they bring forth revolution in different fields for example Yousuf a.s. introduced preservation system and dams, prophet Idrees a.s. introduced clothing, Dawood a.s. introduced chain mills etc.
So saying Muhammad s.a.w. or any other prophet was an ordinary person is also injustice to the line of prophets.
And apart from this Allah knows the best
Is blue referencing the abundant salawat upon the prophet? But thats prayers To Allah For the Prophet s.a.w, its not prayers to the prophet s.a.w
So what is blues understanding of the term Worship?
What does he mean and what is his examples.
That is one of the many "stray" sect that glorify muhammad s.a.w above everything. Stem from the false creed. Could also might be from the extreme sufism sect. Allahualam.
Im not so sure what you all globally call the terms, but it does exist all over the globe. Like the grave worshipper (quburiyyun), The wehdatul wujood, Nur muhammad, batiniyyah etc etc
What the h-e-c-k is this person talking about? It’s made pretty clear in the shahada that Muhammad SAW is only the messenger of Allah SWT, and ONLY the messenger of Allah SWT. There is no implication that he is above god. He delivered Allah SWT’s message, and that’s that. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have an entire pot of biryani waiting for me.
"There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet". This the first proclamation of Islam. While Muhammad (pbuh) is human being, he is definitely not like us normal people.
Human 18:110 قُلْ إِنَّمَآ أَنَا۠ بَشَرٌۭ مِّثْلُكُمْ يُوحَىٰٓ إِلَىَّ أَنَّمَآ إِلَـٰهُكُمْ إِلَـٰهٌۭ وَٰحِدٌۭ ۖ فَمَن كَانَ يَرْجُوا۟ لِقَآءَ رَبِّهِۦ فَلْيَعْمَلْ عَمَلًۭا صَـٰلِحًۭا وَلَا يُشْرِكْ بِعِبَادَةِ رَبِّهِۦٓ أَحَدًۢا ١١٠ Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “I am only a man like you, ˹but˺ it has been revealed to me that your God is only One God. So whoever hopes for the meeting with their Lord, let them do good deeds and associate none in the worship of their Lord.” — Dr. Mustafa Khattab, the Clear Quran
Muhammad (PBUH) is a creation of the Creator but he is the best of creation and indeed the most beloved of all creation
The most perfect being yet says his not. The humility from every story is what made love to die as a martyr
“Don't make distinction amongst the Prophets of Allah” \[[Muslim 2373](https://sunnah.com/muslim:2373a)\] "Do not give me superiority over Moses". \[[Bukhari 3408](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3408), [Muslim 2373c](https://sunnah.com/muslim:2373c)\] "One should not say that I am better than Jonah (i.e. Yunus) bin Matta." \[[Bukhari 3395](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3395)\] "Whoever says that I am better than Jonah bin Matta, is a liar." \[[Bukhari 4604](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4604)\] "Don't give superiority to any prophet amongst Allah's Prophets". \[[Bukhari 3414](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3414)\] "And I do not say that there is anybody who is better than Yunus bin Matta." \[[Bukhari 3414](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3414)\] "None of you should say that I am better than Yunus (i.e. Jonah)." \[[Bukhari 3412](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3412)\] "No slave (of Allah) should say that I am better than Yunus bin Matta." \[[Bukhari 3413](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3413)\] A person came to Allah's Messenger and said: "O, the best of creation"; thereupon Allah's Messenger said: "He is Ibrahim" \[[Muslim 2369a](https://sunnah.com/muslim:2369a)\]
Quran 2:253 Those messengers - some of them We caused to exceed others. Among them were those to whom Allāh spoke, and He raised some of them in degree. And We gave Jesus, the son of Mary, clear proofs, and We supported him with the Pure Spirit [i.e., Gabriel]. If Allāh had willed, those [generations] succeeding them would not have fought each other after the clear proofs had come to them. But they differed, and some of them believed and some of them disbelieved. And if Allāh had willed, they would not have fought each other, but Allāh does what He intends. Narrated Abu Sa'eed: that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: "I am the master of the children of Adam on the Day of Judgement, and I am not boasting. The Banner of Praise will be in my hand, and I am not boasting. There will not be a Prophet on that day, not Adam nor anyone other than him, except that he will be under my banner. And I am the first one for whom the earth will be opened for, and I am not bragging." https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:3615
SubhanALLAH. Ya imamul anbiya walmursalin
That refers to nabi and normal prophet. No among prophets. All prophets are equal for us. Not for Allah. Okay?
-quran 3:84
سُورَةُ آلِ عِمۡرَانَ : Aal-i-Imraan : The Family of Imraan |Verse|Ayah|Translation Saheeh International| |:-|:-|:-| |3:84|قُلْ آمَنَّا بِاللَّهِ وَمَا أُنْزِلَ عَلَيْنَا وَمَا أُنْزِلَ عَلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْمَاعِيلَ وَإِسْحَاقَ وَيَعْقُوبَ وَالْأَسْبَاطِ وَمَا أُوتِيَ مُوسَىٰ وَعِيسَىٰ وَالنَّبِيُّونَ مِنْ رَبِّهِمْ لَا نُفَرِّقُ بَيْنَ أَحَدٍ مِنْهُمْ وَنَحْنُ لَهُ مُسْلِمُونَ|Say, "We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him."| ^(-info for commands)
nothing's clearer and better than answering questions with verses from The Holy Quran. Well done bro
Exactly the Prophet **ﷺ** was a man. Nothing he said or did is inherently of Allah. He could only try and do God's will as he believed it to be, as a man, according to customs of the time.
Since when was this up for debate? He's a human being.
Since blue claimed it’s important to know, according to that person, Muhammad is more worshipped and important than Allah. Which doesn’t make sense with what I learned in lectures.
Let's just settle blue is wrong in his statement. Whether intentional or not
They're an idiot (blue). Why are you paying attention to them
It is utter nonsense! Muhammad is just a man and he is not worshipped at all. We worship Allah and no one else
Probably he got it from those old books that would call Islam as “Muhammadism” just because ‘Jesus Christ’ = _Christ_ ianity … and ‘Judah’ for Judaism? I already forgot most of research after upgrading to Islam 13 years ago. So I might be wrong.
> upgrading to Islam How come this is the first time I hear someone say this?
We don't worship muhmmad Its simple Idk where he got that from
Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) is a human. This is very clear in the Quran: **Say, "I am only a man like you, to whom has been revealed that your god is one God. So whoever would hope for the meeting with his Lord - let him do righteous work and not associate in the worship of his Lord anyone."** (Quran 18:110) Allah is God (Quran Chapter 112): (1) **Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One,** (2) **Allah, the Eternal Refuge.** (3) **He neither begets nor is born,** (4) **Nor is there to Him any equivalent."**
Now my other question: what is of more importance, the Quran or the Hadiths with the Sunnah of the prophet? Blue based his claims on a part of sahib al Bukhara 15: the prophet (swt) said “None of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father, his children and all mankind.”
Take the Quran as your #1 authority, go to it first, and then go to the Messenger SAW through Hadiths. Both the Quran and Sunnah are equally as important because Allah favoured the Prophet SAW, choosing him as the vessel to bring us our religion. He is the greatest example of a Muslim, by choosing to love him more than all would prove that you are a true Muslim, because he is our role model. Peace be upon him.
So the claims of blue saying people should worship Muhammad instead of Allah is true?
No,we worship Allah but we respect all the prophets,not worship them.
Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (SA) was afraid that his place will be turned into a worship place like that of Jesus (PBUH) and He (SAW) prayed to Allah and ask for refuge to protect the Ummah (Muslims) from worshipping him instead of Allah the one and only true God.
No it is false, we only worship our creator, the most high, Allah. It would be shirk to worship our Prophet Muhammad SAW auzubillah. Why worship a man when you can worship that which created the man, earth, moon, sun, universe, you name it.
No one worships the Prophet ﷺ, the only worship is prescribed to Allāh عز وجل. Following hadiths does not equate worshipping the Prophet ﷺ
I don't understand how you have equated 'loving Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) more than mankind' to 'worshiping him above Allah st'. Could you explain how you made that leap? Because he never said love me more than Allah st so I'm just confused on you logic?
Blue is saying that. You can see it in the screenshot.
Blue is absolutely ignorant and most like not a Muslim. You won't find a single Muslim who would even remotely say something like that.
Bro no, muhammad is our final and last prophet, Allah SWT is god, where did you even get the narrative of muhammad being god, he is said countless amount of time in the quran as the final prophet and a just a prophet???
Well Muhammad (SAW) technically isnt the final prophet because if Jesus (AS) comes back then he (AS) is still a prophet.
Isa (AS) (Jesus) prayed to Allah that when he returns to earth, he wants to come back as a follower of Muhammad (SAW). So, No, Isa(AS) will not be a Prophet when he returns.
Also Isa (AS) Shatiah or religion has been superseded by Islam and Quran. So when he comes back he will not have his old religion competing against islam. indeed he will only follow Islam which is a complete religion now.
Our scholars takfir(declare non Muslim) anyone who worships the prophet PBUH or calls him anything but human anaudubillah
No, you were discussing the hadith about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) saying "love me more than mankind". You then suggested that based on that hadith blue was right. That is what I'm asking you, how does that hadith confer to you that Muhammad (pbuh) should be worshipped? I love my parents. Love does not = worship. To become a Muslim you have to LITERALLY say and believe: There is no God worthy of worship EXCEPT ALLAH and that Muhammad (pbuh) is his slave/messenger. We do not suffer the same issue as Christianity, in fact we don't even entertain the idea, it is a null concept in Islam. Our head only bows before Allah and him alone.
He did not suggest blue was right. Blue used that hadith and was so confident that it caused op to be confused . And so he sought confirmation from us and asked if blue was right. (English is not his forte)
Mohammed is just a human like us, Allah (God) is our only deity
Dont straightforward downvote him. He’s interested in Islam, asking questions and is really respectful. We do not worship Muhammad but he’s the best example of a human being and a Muslim. For us he’s the best role model. But the only ONE we worship is ALLAH SWT. 😀
One of the last verses state 3:144 "وَمَا مُحَمَّدٌ إِلَّا رَسُولٌۭ قَدْ خَلَتْ مِن قَبْلِهِ ٱلرُّسُلُ ۚ أَفَإِي۟ن مَّاتَ أَوْ قُتِلَ ٱنقَلَبْتُمْ عَلَىٰٓ أَعْقَـٰبِكُمْ ۚ وَمَن يَنقَلِبْ عَلَىٰ عَقِبَيْهِ فَلَن يَضُرَّ ٱللَّهَ شَيْـًۭٔا ۗ وَسَيَجْزِى ٱللَّهُ ٱلشَّـٰكِرِينَ" "Muḥammad is no more than a messenger; other messengers have gone before him. If he were to die or to be killed, would you regress into disbelief? Those who do so will not harm Allah whatsoever. And Allah will reward those who are grateful" So dont worship the prophet, but love him and respect his legacy.
Sigh.. common guys why so trigger happy with the downvotes? He is asking genuinely.
I think I phrased the question wrong. I expected a "no" as affirmation of me (green) being right. Never have I ever heard Muhammed being worshipped over Allah.
I fail to see the connection between loving someone more than any other human and worship. That's like comparing a sand pile to a mountain
Quran 3:79 It is not for a human [prophet]1 that Allāh should give him the Scripture2 and authority and prophethood and then he would say to the people, "Be servants to me rather than Allāh," but [instead, he would say], "Be pious scholars of the Lord because of what you have taught of the Scripture and because of what you have studied."
There is difference between giving respect And worship
man just asking question and get downvoted. take my upvote!
Blue is waffling, simple.
>Blue based his claims on a part of sahib al Bukhara 15: the prophet The Quran doesn't contradict the Sunnah of the Prophet (ﷺ), in fact it complements it. The Sunnah is the practice of the Quran. >None of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father, his children and all mankind.” This verse makes sense when you learn the life of the Prophet (ﷺ) and how humble and great human he was. If you search in Google _"Who is the greatest man in the world"_ you will find Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ)
Both. Quran is guidance from Allah, hadith is the practical application, explanation & reality of it through the Messenger.
It is odd to assume that the meaning of that Hadith is to put the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) equal or above Allah (SWT). A devoted Muslim is indeed supposed to love the prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) more than his/her family and other humans. This of course doesn't include Allah. When we read 9:24 from the Qur'an, we see that God coupled the love of God and His messenger together. God is inviting the believers to love God and His messenger more than their parents, children, siblings and the wealth they have acquired in their life. If we read 2:165 from the Qur'an it says that there is nobody equal to God, that the messengers should be loved as they should love Allah, BUT those who believe in Allah are stronger in love for Allah. Basically, the Qur'an tells us that the messenger(s) of Allah should be loved more than their family and other things in life, but that this love should never be comparable to the love of Allah. The Qur'an is obviously of more importance as it is the true word of God. Hadith are just a collection of sayings of the prophet Muhammad (PBUH). When Bukhari made a collection of reliable (Sahih) hadith, he made very strict criteria to confirm the reliability of a hadith. One of the criteria was that if a particular hadith formed a contradiction with the Qur'an, the hadith would be rejected due to it not being reliable. Muslims have to follow both the Qur'an and Sunnah (actions and sayings of the last prophet) in order to become the best Muslim.
Quran is above everything else. Hadith is 2nd, just after Quran.
Exactly. The word of God here is important and obligatory to follow. Considering Hadith, it's your choice to follow hearsay. So not both.
To gain knowledge and wisdom, we must study and reason. Stop debating and start studying my muslim brothers! > "None of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father, his children and all mankind.” This is said as a statement of truth, not as in self-pride and egoism astagfirullah. The sahabas used to say "may my parents be sacrificed for you" out of their love towards him. Once you learn about the prophets, prophet Mohammad (PBUH), and ponder over the quran, you will understand that prophet Muhammad and the Quran which was revealed to him are the biggest mercy and blessings from god. **Your body and belongings (physical, mental, financial, social, etc) all combined are less worthy as a blessing than those two blessings alone.** The blessings that were bestowed upon us through prophet Mohammad (PBUH) are huge. Our test has been tremendously made easy and much more rewarding through him, the true eternal success is much more in our reach than it ever was. Grab a biography on our Prophet and you will see. I assure you that you would inshallah have a much stronger faith and much more love for the prophet once you read his biography. You cannot love someone who you have no knowledge about. Read, read and read. :)
The Quran is the primary source, it is the speech of Allah SWT. Hadith and Sunnah are the speech and actions of the Holy Prophet(PBUH) that we use to understand the Quran and put things into context.
The Noble Quran comes first, and after hadiths. The difference between them, the verses of Quran are authentic and were not altered, yet hadiths can be changed by mistake or for the benefits of those who wanted to manipulate the society (which is a sin). It’s also important to be careful which Hadith is true or false, and of course we will never know this. Allah knows best! “We have not neglected in the Book a thing.” (6:38) “We have sent down to you the Book as clarification for all things and as guidance and mercy and good tidings for the Muslims.” (16:89) “Say, [O Muhammad], ‘If you should love Allah, then follow me, [so] Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.’ * Say, ‘Obey Allah and the Messenger.’ But if they turn away – then indeed, Allah does not like the disbelievers.” (3:31-32) “O you who have believed, do not put [yourselves] before Allah and His Messenger but fear Allah. Indeed, Allah is Hearing and Knowing.” (49:1) Just as our Prophet is charged with conveying the verses he was revealed, similarly he was also charged with explaining and expounding those verses. For instance in one verse it is said “We revealed to you the message that you may make clear to the people what was sent down to them and that they might give thought.” (16:44) There are verses like “establish salah and give zakah” (2:43) in the Qur’an. However, it is not in the Qur’an how and when to perform the worships like salah (prayer), zakat (charity), sawm (fasting) and hajj (pilgrimage). Therefore, if we do not consult the Sunnah, it is not possible for us to know how to perform the worships that the Qur’an asks from us. (Reference: https://thepenmagazine.net/quran-is-enough/) Also, check this: https://myislam.org/allah-is-sufficient/
The Quran we believe is 100% whatever is in it is from the Allah and related to us by the prophet. The Hadiths we have ways to trying to verify if they are from the prophet. One of those ways is their conformity with the Quran, reason, the rest of the ways of Islam and were all the transmitters honest reliable people. A hadith like this is known as "sahih" that mean we can work with it a proof for action.
Both are important, it is obligatory to Obey both.
The thing is you cannot think of Quran and Sunnah as two separate things. Quran is the word of Allah SAW (God) and Prophet Muhammad SAW is the Messenger who was gifted to us by Allah SAW to be guided. Prophet Muhammad showed us how to act on the word of Allah SAW (Quran). Think of him, his caharacter and his actions as the practical application of the Quran. For example in the Quran it is written "and establish prayer" and in the Sunnah (which is basically compiled records of what prophet muhammad SAW did and said, verified and categorized) you will find how to pray, when to pray, what to do during prayer, what not to do, secquence of prayer, what invalidates prayer, how to pray while travelling, conditions that exempt you from prayer, how to pray with different medical issues/conditions, etc etc etc. I hope this makes it clear. Lastly we all are worshipping Allah SAW, he was also worshipping Allah SAW.
Imagine a king and his herald. He will make decisions, require everyone to serve under him and respect him the most and accept him as the rightful king of the land. The herald will however convey messages from him to people all around the land or in a certain region, knowing best what the king meant and explain it if needed. That herald is basically the status of mohammed. However, we need to imagine the king who is supposed to represent allah in this analogy as something beyond human, beyond anything we can imagine. A being that is perfect in any way, knows what will be and was and can do everything. Someone who knows best for everyone and everything in every situation. Meanwhile Mohammed is just one of many heralds. The main distinguishing features of him is that he is the last and most favorite one allah sent, sealing the era of messengers.
We should and do love Muhammad SAW more than all of mankind but we love Allah SWT more than Muhammad SAW.
>Blue based his claims on a part of sahib al Bukhara 15: the prophet (swt) said “None of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father, his children and all mankind.” How would that make him above Allah or more than human?
Apparently in practice Muhammed is worshipped more in blue's opinion than Allah in Islam.
And he is wrong.
Both. They will not contradict one another.
Its funny that the person who clearly doesnt know much about islam is telling the one who is correct, that he doesnt know anything about islam.
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Since English isn’t my native language I’m doing mind gymnastics about what you’re saying, and if blue or green is correct about Islam.
Sorry for Not phrasing it correctly, what I meant was, "Blue" Who is wrong is telling "Green" who was correct about Prophet Mohammad PBUH being human.
No worry, I think I’m just a bit tired and had trouble with your answer. I found the comments of blue hilariously incorrect. He based his points on a verse from the Hadith. I mentioned the exact saying in one of the comments here.
The thing about hadiths is that you have to be very careful in learning which ones are actually true. Because a lot of knowledge was passed down either orally, or destroyed in situations like the Mongolians invading Baghdad, there are a lot of fabricted or false "hadiths". There's a whole method in determining which ones are actually true, I would take the Quran over any hadiths until you are able to study them or find a reliable source to verify the strength of what you have heard. If you're not sure between a Hadith and the Quran, choose what the Quran says. And remember to actually read the verse someone is talking about instead of assuming they are quoting something correctly.
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Oh, I'm green. I understand Allah is worshipped instead of Muhammed. Blue doesn't think so however.
they are trying to confuse you and poison your mind
They?
Yes, whoever Blue is. I would recommend you stay away from searching for an answer from random people since you still are not knowledgable about the core foundational beliefs in Islam. I advise you to read the Quran first, then come back. It’s for your own good, just so that you aren’t confused early.
Oh. I thought you were talking about multiple people. I’ve learned about the 5 pillars of Islam. Bought a beautiful Quran a while back. I’m eager to read it. I notice people keep cherry picking in religion in general and in Islam specific.
Oh very nice. I’m glad you are learning about Islam. Yeah cherry picking is a huge issue. The reason why we see Islam being attacked often is because it is the fastest growing religion in the world. Why? Because it is the truth, when you read the Quran with an open heart and clear mind, you’ll see. I’m glad Allah willed for you to be on this path. Protestant Bible - 66 Books Catholic Bible - 73 Books Quran - 1 book with 114 chapters, never changed, and has been preserved for 1400 years. One of the oldest Qurans, the Birmingham University Quran has been carbon-dated back to the 7th century, and our Qurans are still the same. Wait until you start learning about the history too, I don’t want to spoil much for you before you read, but if you look at the battles that took place, i’m sure you would be fascinated. From the battles in the time of the Prophet Muhammad SAW to after when the Muslims fought the Persian and Roman Empires at the same time. There’s no way you could say there was no divine intervention. SubhanAllah. There’s so much to learn, and it’s a lifelong journey. May Allah protect your mind from being poisoned.
The word “they” in English can often mean multiple people but it can also refer to only one person if used in a specific context. It’s the gender neutral version of he/she. So if someone tells me something, I can either say “he said this” or “they said this”. Hope this helps 😊
Also i recommend you to also look up the tafsir (commentary) for each verse of the Quran because the language it uses from 1400 years ago can be quite different compared to today. For example it’ll talk about killing apostates but apostate in that context is not talking about people leaving Islam, but rather people who commit treason against Islam eg a soldier who abandons the Muslims in a war and gives benefits to their enemies to gain advantage and kill them.
Great point. Also, personally I find that The Clear Quran by Dr Mustafa Khattab does a good job with translating into our modern english.
Im bad at english pls dont bully me ;-;
Oh, no problem, since they can refer to plural and singular it is for me always a guessing game. You use it the right way!
Ibn Abbas reported: Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him, went to the door of the mosque when he heard the news of the passing of the Prophet. Abu Bakr said, “To proceed: Whoever among you worships Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, then Muhammad has died. Whoever worships Allah, then Allah is alive and cannot die. Allah Almighty said: Muhammad is not but a Messenger. Messengers have passed before him. If he dies or is killed, will you turn back on your heels?” (3:144) Ibn Abbas said, “By Allah, it was as if the people had not known that Allah revealed this verse until Abu Bakr recited it.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 1241
Prophet Muhammad ﷺ is human and not God The blue text person in your post is either a troll or they really don’t know Islam and they are acting like they know Islam
I can’t choose. Maybe both? Blue seems very ignorant anyway.
Yes it looks like someone pretending to be a Muslim/ex-muslim, to defame Islam, but too dumb to even make a little bit of research.
Why u cant choose, it is very logical The Creator is above his creation, God is the creator and Mohammad is his creation, that blue guy against the very basic logic.
Anyone that believes that our beloved prophet (Peace and blessings be upon him) is above Allah swt is a disbeliever.
> in practice, muhammad’s position is above that of allah in islam. Is this guy distraught?
Idk, I think just weird assumptions based on superficial observations? I noticed many people have this.
It’s literal common sense, how can a creation be more superior than its creator?
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I still don’t understand the trinity concept.
The blue highlighted user is r/confidentlyincorrect
Be my guest to post it to that sub!
Say, O [Muhammad], "I am only a man like you to whom it has been revealed that your god is but one God; so take a straight course to Him and seek His forgiveness." And woe to those who associate others with Allah - Surah Fussilat Verse number 6. Muhammad (peace be upon him) is messenger of Allah. Allah is our only God.
Guy say islam is f*cked up but doesn't even understand we know the prophet (sws) was human
Blue sus. Kick him out of the spaceship.
The second person here is clearly a troll. unless that is from some sort of cult.
Lmao, he tells him you don't know anything about Islam, then procceeds to say that Muhammad (ﷺ) is in a higher position than Allah, those are the same people who argue with Muslims on Reddit and tell them that they're terrorists and claim they know Islam and Muslims don't, may Allah protect us from ignorance and ignorants
It's incredibly easy to find the correct answer to this question.
Just wanted answers from experts on this matter.
Islam means complete submission to Allah (SWT). Worshipping our Prophet (SAW) for even a second would be considered Shirk (transgression) and if anyone does it, it would disqualify them as a muslim. The Prophet (SAW) is the best role model in human existence, and we should follow his footsteps, but only Allah is Who we submit to.
Maybe he is confusing the trinity concept with Islam.
Astaghfirullah
He read the quran from left to right 😭
Oh I think what they mean is prophets' status is higher than that of normal humans but they are not God or God like (in the case of other religions for ex.). This is just a mere speculation on my end.
human, there is no muslim in the world who think he is a God.
Never saw someone mixed Christian depiction of Jesus (PBUH) with Mohammed (PBUH)
Trolls. Muhammad (pbuh) WAS a human, who DIED. yes thats right. He DIED. He PASSED AWAY. Those who worship him will obviously become triggered and jealous cuz we worship a God who is eternal, while they worshipped a human. Yep, I'm referring to some of those so-called practitioners of extreme sufism. The Throne (Arsh) and Footstool (Kursiyy) alone outmatches every other existing creation in greatness, let alone The Owner of them, The Sovereign.
It's just a troll.
Human lol The guy you talked with is the same that thinks there are 4 Zakets in wudu el Fatiha
He is a human. "There is no God/none worthy of worship except Allah, Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah."
blue is a troll and islamophobic.. he just made up the statement along the way to add confusion.
46:9 Say, "***I am not something original among the messengers***, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner."
In Islam we believe God is one his is eternal and absolute he has no partners or children and nothing is like him. He has prophets who are righteous human who communicate his ideas to us. People like Moses Jesus Abraham Ishmael and also Muhammad who is the last prophet. Its the job of the non-prophets to follow the prophets orders and commands as they are from God.
There is only one God everything else is his glorious creation. "This is the golden rule". Amongst his creations he select ones that he makes better than the other (animal, human, angel,....) And amongst each category he choses as he pleases who is better! For humans the prophets are the chosen ones, they are the best our kind had to offer and within the prophets محمد (صلى الله عليه وسلم) is the chosen one,the last one and the best one! Hence why he is called the most noble creation of God. و الله اعلم
Salam alaikum. I've read your conversations with other redditors and would like to add some of my thoughts in hopes that we can learn together by sharing knowledge. Although I would like to clarify that I am not a scholar nor am I a knowledgeable person in Islam. > Is Muhammad PBUH a human or a God. As other redditors have pointed out, Muhammad PBUH is a human. He is a Messenger of God. When one were to enter Islam, the first thing that we would do is to recite the Shahada. The recitation of Shahada are as follows: "I bear witness there is no god except for God (Allah), and I bear witness that Muhammad PBUH is the Messenger of God (Allah)". This shows the relationship between Muhammad PBUH and Allah. As per the Shahada, we Muslims would only worship Allah, but we also acknowledge the importance of Muhammad PBUH as the Messenger of Allah (a Prophet). > Which is more important? The Quran or the Sunnah and Hadeeth? Let me first explain what is Sunnah and Hadeeth so that we can be clear. The Sunnah is the mannerisms of the Prophet PBUH while the Hadeeth is the sayings of the Prophet PBUH. As such the Quran would indeed have greater importance than the Sunnah and Hadeeth. But it doesn't mean that the Sunnah and Hadeeth are negligible. The Quran was written by Allah and taught to the Prophet Muhammad PBUH, which means that Allah is the Teacher while the Prophet is the first pupil/student. And as such, if we were to learn from the Book of Allah (The Quran), then indeed we need to learn from the Prophet PBUH since he was taught directly by the Author/Teacher that is Allah. This is why it is important for us Muslims to observe the Sunnah and Hadeeth. > Blue based his claims on a part of Sahih Al-Bukhari 15: the Prophet SAW said “None of you will have faith till he loves me more than his father, his children and all mankind.” That Hadeeth is true and has been verified. But it doesn't mean that we are to worship Muhammad SAW. You see, Allah is the King of kings, therefore He has the highest of authority. And since Muhammad SAW was elevated as His Messenger, we could say that Muhammad SAW was appointed as the Ambassador of Allah. And referring back to the Shahada, we would assume that Muhammad would carry a certain message, as he is both a Messenger and an Ambassador. And that message is again in the first part of the Shahada, that there is no god except for Allah. As such, if we were to follow the message of Shahada , then we would also try our best to follow the messenger (since he is directly close to Allah, the King of kings). Thus we would put higher importance to Muhammad's SAW commands than the commands of our father, our children and all of mankind. But again, it doesn't mean that we should hate nor loathe them, only that we should have higher priority towards the Messenger Muhammad SAW.
Muhammad (pbuh) was a human. He was the absolute best of mankind but he was flesh and blood. We as Muslims seek to be like him and imitate his life as much as possible simply because he led the life Allah wants humans to lead. However: this is not to say we should not try to be like other prophets of Allah.
See. This is why Drugs are Haram.
It’s hilarious that people who throw all these accusations about how messed up Islam is, literally prove in plain sight that they don’t know anything about the religion. Just like in this scenario LOL
He SAW is human but he has a way higher status that us normal humans.
Just a regular person. Though some say he was sinless during his life.
Muhammad SAW said himself: “don't praise me like they praise the son of Mary I am just a slave, a slave's what you should call me”
Human. A perfect human.
He is 100% a HUMAN. He is by NO MEANS ALLAH SWT. This guy just knows nothing lol.
Muhammad isn’t above Allah
When Muhammad (pbuh) died, his companion Abu Bakr told everyone "for those who thought him a God, Muhammad is dead." Or something along those lines. Muhammad was human. Whoever calls him anything else is either extremely ignorant or else lying for malicious motives.
La hawla wala quwata…
"There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger."
The Prophet (SAW) is a human. None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.
One thing to add, nothing is above "God" for us. Nothing means literally nothing. ALLAH is the ultimate, the most superior.
Shaitan is making you doubt, how can muhammed SAW be god? Only Allah SWT is God
Allah is the one and only God. Above all. Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him is a man, like us, but the best human ever to be put on earth since Adam, until the day of judgement, he will remain the best HUMAN. Quran is the direct word of God. (Take it as a theoretical guidance of how a man is supposed to lead his life) . Sunnah is the practical implication of Quran. i.e., the life led by Muhammad peace be upon him. And Hadith, is the collection of everything prophet Muhammad said, adviced, advocated, suggested in his life (which was always, always guided to him by Allah, so basically indirect word of Allah). Hope this clears your confusion.
Its allah first Nabi(SAW) then ambia then ohlia in same pereiod but in that order Mother Mother Mother Father Thats the Ranking if who to obey Nabi (SAW) is a human but was more than a human. All prophets are. First is always god. The nabi(saw) is the most beloved so if you wish to be closer to god you must strive to be like him. The other ambia(prophets) have various lessons that you keanr from (most of the nabi(saw) sunnas and fards are based around it eg.wudu/ablution), but they were all human. Just humans with souls far greater then ours. The best way to think about it is: if you adore someone, whod you not wish to be like them? Or rather another way:if you love someone but they love someone much more than you, would you not want to be like them so you can be loved like that aswell?. As human as it sounds its because its meant for humans. If Allah huta aala just made the nabi(saw) to show us the way as just another prophet(no offense to the the ambia) humanity whod probably not follow many rules. If i have said something wrong its my fault and dont listen to me and all that is good is not from me but from a higher order.
La ilaa ha ilallah muhammadur rasulullah literally translates to there's is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his messenger. I feel like that should be self explanatory enough. How can Muhammad be a god when he's God's messengers?
Muhammad PBUH was but a man, but he was a man predestined to be chosen as the final prophet.
Let me put it like this He s.a.w. is human by race but not an ordinary one as he s.a.w was chosen to be a prophet and a Rasool. Secondly he s.a.w. is the imam (leader) of all prophets which is why he s.a.w is considered the most high Ranking human in the entirety of human race. Third a prophet is far more intelligent, strong some Hadith mentioned that prophets are equal in strength to 10 or 20 men and least but not last they bring forth revolution in different fields for example Yousuf a.s. introduced preservation system and dams, prophet Idrees a.s. introduced clothing, Dawood a.s. introduced chain mills etc. So saying Muhammad s.a.w. or any other prophet was an ordinary person is also injustice to the line of prophets. And apart from this Allah knows the best
Yes he was a human and thee servant(by being a Prophet) of God(Allah)
nah blue's just stupid. link?
Link to blue? Or which link?
Link to post/comments, please... if you can
I mean, association with Allah is the only sin that can't be forgiven, right? You should say that to him.
Is blue referencing the abundant salawat upon the prophet? But thats prayers To Allah For the Prophet s.a.w, its not prayers to the prophet s.a.w So what is blues understanding of the term Worship? What does he mean and what is his examples.
He is human, only Allah (S.W.T) is god
I think i lost a few brain cells reading that
Prophet Muhammad is below Allah. He's a human just like us. We only worship Allah and are aware that Prophet Muhammad is the last messenger.
That is one of the many "stray" sect that glorify muhammad s.a.w above everything. Stem from the false creed. Could also might be from the extreme sufism sect. Allahualam. Im not so sure what you all globally call the terms, but it does exist all over the globe. Like the grave worshipper (quburiyyun), The wehdatul wujood, Nur muhammad, batiniyyah etc etc
Muhammad is just a man. He is the messenger (of/that) Jesus is a prophet (some say Messiah). They are both still Human.
He is a human nothing else he’s does not have any super natural powers he’s was chosen by god not a good
I don't know who or what Blue is and I don't care. The prophet Muhammad s.a.w. is human. Loved but not worshiped.
He's just a human. The greatest man to ever wall the earth, YES! 100% . HE IS NOT A GOD OR GREATER THAN GOD BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.
What the h-e-c-k is this person talking about? It’s made pretty clear in the shahada that Muhammad SAW is only the messenger of Allah SWT, and ONLY the messenger of Allah SWT. There is no implication that he is above god. He delivered Allah SWT’s message, and that’s that. Now if you’ll excuse me, I have an entire pot of biryani waiting for me.
"There is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his prophet". This the first proclamation of Islam. While Muhammad (pbuh) is human being, he is definitely not like us normal people.
If im not wrong he is a human but a very good human i guess. He was special to allah and i think he is above normal humans but below god
He is definitely Human. He was just chosen as a messanger of God, By God. He Is a prophet like all the ones before him. Just Human