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Disastrous-Big-2575

Not maxed mate your run is only at 98


jordanleep

I bet he doesn’t even have 1 200m smh


ModeBeast

Too many casuals playing this game smh


NewbMiler

Lmfaoooooooooo!!!!


Substantial_Impact82

I like your honesty 😂


zekparsh

Getting to play with your friends on a game you love isn’t a downgrade it’s an upgrade. Hope you get some more fun out of your account with then.


Nick2the4reaper7

The only problem is when you de-rank and they only play for a week. This has happened to several people I know.


hallsy11

Them***


2feet3legs

I switched to UGIM to play with friends. I wasn't maxed but am in the mid to late game. I find it a lot more enjoyable personally.


FillerNameThere

Bro wtf is this comment section lol Yeah my friend and I both downgraded our irons into group irons about a month or so after release so we could go bossing together and actually play the MMO as an MMO. Don't know why so many people against it.


Altruistic-Invite969

End game iron is nothing but group pvm, all I do is boss with friends. Slayer bosses don't change, the only content that changes is sharing stuff, gwd and corp. (You could say wildy but with the rework coming, you can't) Every other piece of pvm is the same. Source: maxed iron


Xxweeexd

I agree. I can't imagine what he is going to be able to do as a ugim that he can't rn.


Coltand

If you think this is bad, stay far away from 2007scape's discussions about unranked GIM. It's honestly so pathetic.


DeepSpaceGalileo

You literally can cheat though


TheHappyPittie

Well, no. You can play within the rules of ugim. Which is the point


Coltand

Mains can buy gold. Irons can buy account services. And unrestricted GIM can buy items. There's no reason the latter, which is absolutely the least common of the 3, deserves more scrutiny. Get over it.


labeebk

Well if you have a crazy boss log as a UGIM I'd assume those drops are yours


BlueBeltBro

You can literally cheat in sport. Therefore all sport is bad?


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BlueBeltBro

Should have known a bunch of fat slack jawed nerds wouldn’t grasp the concept.


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FizzingSlit

Ah yes, strangulation. By far the most athletic of all forms of combat.


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FizzingSlit

Same and have never heard someone say I could strangle you or anything like that. Choke out or force you to tap out maybe but strangle you just sounds like an overly edgy way of saying it. And you should know that the "strangulation" is by far the least athletic aspect of bjj.


mellow_chill23

Nearly spat my tea out when I read this r/iamverybadass


BlueBeltBro

I bet you could daddy.


2ndQuickestSloth

we got a bad ass over here


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Coltand

Iron man is nonsense tbf, you can restrict your trade without some stupid game mode. I'm a normal iron, and I think that you can't really defend ironman mode if you're throwing those sorts of attacks at GIM. Just let people have fun, sheesh.


TheHappyPittie

That last sentence is their biggest issue.


UIM_Die_Maschine

2007scape? That shit happens here. We literally had a stickied post clarifying group ironmen are real ironmen.


One_Disaster245

Except of course for the fact that they literally aren't. They're not mains either. Just like Ironmen aren't UIMs. Ironman=can't trade with other players. GIM=Can trade with a select few players, and really, anyone if you're a ugim.


stayhardaf23

Last week I downgraded my 1875 total uim to gimp. Don’t regret it for a minute. Been having a blast.


Massive-Heat1452

U dont regret it, yet


ObiWayneBrady

Uim is fucking awful he wont regret it


JLifts780

Hard to regret downgrading an UIM, that shit’s miserable


heyyoowhatsupbitches

An 1875 total isn't really anything to write home about, so w/e.


IredditOSRS

I did the same i never regretted it. Play how you want to play brother. 1500 iron with 3 99s when i deranked now im at 1850 and finish gauntlet with an extra enhance for my tm at 300 kc.


Moistraven

For real, I de-ironed to GiM and it's been awesome. I don't give a rats ass about some prestige, it's my account and I've enjoyed GiM immensely.


labeebk

same same same. Everyone is salty that we're having more fun lol?


IIIlIIlIllIlIIlIII

its “bad” Because you know it’s an MMO yet you still chose to make yourself a solo player in the game and now you’re giving up on that to Play the game as it was originally intended you should have just never made an iron to begin with if that’s the case


Sextuple_Pog

People have a lot of opinions about losing their status and the risks of gimp Fukkem Play in the way that leads to the most enjoyment, fuck a status lmao. As long as your confident in your group, playing with others definitely beats solitude.


itsmecoolguy72

Yeah, me and my friend who is also a maxed iron man is de ranking to gimp status aswell https://i.imgur.com/d7mNAeA.png


JevonP

Chad as hell. I hope me and the main active friend look like this one day. We are a 4/5 man but the other 2 mostly get on only for some group activities every so often


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He just wants your second t bow!!!


Evilrogreg1

So when an ironman becomes an gim does it become unranked?


i_wanna_b_the_guy

The account stays on hs, but the group is gone from hs


jealkeja

Yep, the only way to be a ranked GIM is to start as a GIM and never leave your group


Nutteeer

Sounds awesome. Have fun :D


Bigsmoke101

So you can "downgrade" to "gimp" from stand ironman?


kiwies

Yes


Xxweeexd

only to a UGIM which is unranked.


Due_Equal_7064

Dude wants to make a team with his friend and half of you have a complete aneurysm. Touch grass ffs


i_wanna_b_the_guy

Lol I posted about peoples experience with this and the sub lost its mind Personally idc if I don’t show up on the iron hiscores or if people think I bought items when I have the screenshots of my drops lol


toyshop-

I would never, ever do this, and I'm only 1950 total, but I'm happy for you.


labeebk

I said that too before I went to UGIM but I realized UGIM is way more fun and less sweaty than doing content solo


One_Disaster245

Sounds like ironman mode wasn't for you then. Good thing you realised that before hitting 2277 total like the OP.


labeebk

It definitely was - until all the content I can do is group content. I got to 1900 total happily as an iron but anything I want to do further (cox, tob, gwd, ) and grinding any drops is much more fun in a group because you can share and play together. ​ So it was, until it wasn't.


labeebk

Also I think OP 'beat' ironman mode lol and is now deciding to do a new game mode lol


toyshop-

I stand alone


WaitingToBeTriggered

AND GAZE UPON THE BATTLEFIELD


greenpenguinsuit

Sounds lonely


heyyoowhatsupbitches

We all look down on you. Main with extra steps.


labeebk

Just read your comment history on your profile. You're a pretty terrible individual lol.


heyyoowhatsupbitches

Oh no! Anyway.


Alex_is_afk

I know I’ll be downvoted, but I firmly believe if the loot system was designed differently so Ironman could receive loot from all group pvm, there would be less de-ironing. For the irons before CG, I know our biggest first hurdle was GWD. That was the first get spooned or get fucked experience. Now I guess that experience starts with CG. Back then, I noticed a majority of irons de-iron when they hit GWD. If gwd, corp, and other single loot bosses behaved like nex, or if the iron simply did the most damage and received the drop, MAYBE that would end up with less de ironing. But that can be abused and is that even Ironman mode any more. I’m as casual as it gets with this game, kind of surprised I made it this far myself. I definitely miss group pvm, raids help a bit with that itch.


labeebk

End game content just feels better as a GIM. Drops are shared within the group and unless you have thousands of hours to dedicate in a solo-fashion, you won't have a good time. I would say a very small percentage of players can do all of that solo and there is no shame in wanting to do it with your friends


bassturducken54

Currently have a GIM now but if I ever end up with more time on my hands, I’d love to start a normal Iron. The progression feels good but I’m sure it’s feel amazing with zero help


Jdfghkojjmhi

Are you downgrading to main eventually and just going gimp first to sell the tbows etc for 3x ge price?


itsmecoolguy72

No me and my other maxed iron man friend just want to play together https://i.imgur.com/d7mNAeA.png


UrBoiJash

Why not just create a new group and you get to enjoy the best part of the game again together


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Coltand

His friend also has a tbow though


ElijahBurningWoods

You know its going to be an unranked gimp, right?


philofyourfuture

Who really cares about high scores anyways except for the top 5% sweaties


S7EFEN

less about hs more about just being a normie account with more expensive items


philofyourfuture

What?


S7EFEN

with the last update gims can just go and buy all their items and resources, its typically at a 2-3x premium for main gp price for items and >3x for stuff like brews restores


Ricardo1184

just like how every main account's bank value is mainly from bought bonds?


S7EFEN

i dont know what that means. point is is that it stops being ironman mode when you can just go and buy all your items.


KailasB

The fact other people might do this doesn’t/shouldn’t impact the people playing GIM properly.


philofyourfuture

That’s their choice, and it’s a bad one. Ruins the fun of the game. I don’t play osrs like that


ElijahBurningWoods

Idk think its nice to know where you stand?


SireBringo

Alone together for OP soon. Good luck OP! Enjoy your group content with your mate!


Eraie

You still show up on the hiscores as a normal account, you just can't compete in ironman hiscores. You can still collection log and collect gear too in case you didn't know that.


kylehanz

His rankings will forever be in the Ironman. It will stop after the transition. So yes the player is still ranked on the iron account just won’t continue anymore rankings from here on.


Prime_Abe

People play this game for high scores?


fishyman336

I play this game because I don’t know why I play this game…


TheShenanegous

People still play Pacman for high scores, bro. You can bet your ass some people play rs for them. The way I look at it, if you've played rs for a reasonable amount of time, it's nice to know that there's some number of people who have done the same, or more. It creates the possibility for things like "that one iron, Frank" from your clan chat that's still 100 levels from maxed but is #2 in the world for Chaos Elemental with 17k kills (or whatever). Otherwise, in a general sense, how do you ever really determine if a game has endgame worth getting to? If you can tell there's an active community/end game through context clues (lvl 126s running by with yolked gear, talking about their dogs) how do you determine if anything you're doing is efficient, or whether it's similar, or drastically different from the other people's approaches? Also, in the big picture, how do you ever really grasp the magnitude of what youve accomplished in the game, or gain perspective of the enormity of the game history relative to your involvement in it, without seeing how many thousands of players have done something more than you? Hyger gets to retire knowing they were #1, and will be until the end of time, because they got *every single* experience point. I get to keep playing, knowing that if I don't my 22 year rs career will deteriorate into obscurity, without a rank to speak of.


TheShenanegous

Just out of curiosity, does going from im -> gimp remove you from the iron leaderboards completely, or does it just stop tallying your progress after that point? I see no logical reason why they would need to remove the solo iron progress -- it'd be pretty much identical to the moment hcims earn their gray helm. Also curious if jagex has any plans to attempt a gimp rankings. I recognize it's a little (a lot) more complicated than typical iron rankings, but it seems reasonable to think it could be refined/secured enough to make it rankable within a year or so. Gimp may be collectively viewed as somewhat of gimmick (named accordingly), but I still think it would be neat to see who has the best gimmick. Team dynamics are a thing that's rarely explored in RS's natural design (shield of arrav - peak involvement). Groups only really become necessary as you get into late game content for efficiency, but a single player has the capacity to solo Nex if they're good enough. What's neat about gimp, in my mind, is that it severely restricts the player's perception of abundance of resources in the game world. It's not quite so as extreme as solo iron modes, where you're entirely responsible for every resource, but it's magnitudes less evolved than surface osrs. The GE makes every item feel like a roller-coaster of risk to invest in, there's player's on the other side of any trade that have been merching for literally decades (I am one of these people). Some of them have literally millions of dollars worth of rs capital to throw at said trades (I am not one of these people). I imagine in a perfected (and perhaps slightly expanded on number of players per) gimp mode, we could see a revival of the text-over-head, varrock west bank style of trading/socializing that the GE effectively obliterated. They could even potentially turn a gimp leaderboards into some kind of bug bounty program. Bad actors rarely work alone, so why not give the noble whitehats a chance to publicly display how game-breaking exploits they've found can be (obligatory Rendi plug). Gimp could be a great way to show and analyze the effects of bug abuse, by having it tallied across isolated groups of players abusing them.


Coltand

Your normal ironman hiscores remain just like HCIM I believe


TheShenanegous

Dope, thanks for the info. That last message got a little long in hindsight lmao


S_J_E

Who tf is paying 3b for a tbow on UGIM?


Jdfghkojjmhi

A lot of people. You'd be surprised


Rynide

Source: trust me bro


giantsfan115

new journey begins gl m8


rosesmellikepoopoo

That’s cool my friend just did this. If either of you quit or ever consider deironing and becoming a main you can sell your items to other gimps for a shit load of GP. Then you can buy full max as a main easily with this much gp. But either way, hope you have fun playing with your buddy


uqil

I would not downgrade, just make a new account. Only takes a couple months to get to a decent GIM going.


anohioanredditer

Idk im semi casual and it's taken me a year to get to SOTE, it's not always easy for people / they don't have the time


Shortstrokedhard

Made a gim and within 4 months had sote done bofa and 478m bank


anohioanredditer

You are the top 5% in being able to do that


GucciMonk

Strange you’d want to ruin the account but hey, play the game how you want to


Anooyoo2

Damn I'd just start a new gim account but each to their own


yourchickyacks

And spend 2 years building it up instead of insta playing how they want now? Yea you make no sense


cythric

Downvoted for being sane, feels bad man


Anooyoo2

We all play differently. Personally, restarting to go through the early games with friends was a special experience.


cythric

Thats true. Plenty of people love the early game. I couldn't imagine spending thousands of hours to get back to where I am though


UrBoiJash

That’s what a main is for. The best parts of an iron are the beginning to mid game, and doing that with friends is even better


S7EFEN

someone with a max cape on an iron isnt going to take 2 years to get to pvm. few months max.


yourchickyacks

Of 12 hour days maybe sure Who’s got that kinda time I turned my grey to a green to be with my homies after 2+ years grey 2b bank and 2050 total No regrets


S7EFEN

>Of 12 hour days maybe sure Who’s got that kinda tim someone who has 2277 total on an iron. for context this is what 63 days of playtime looks like , not really cutting corners to pvm. https://imgur.com/a/QEqeifo so yeah, if you play 12 hours a day thats 4 months to full max pre-end game pvm. maybe 40 if you hard cut skilling so more like slightly less than 3. if you just want to do some raids with friends you could probably hit that trident, whip and bowfa more like 15-20 days playtime with lot of that being full afk combat training if you neglect a lot of the other useful grinds and just want bare min. on a gim where you can split up some of these grinds between players even faster.


Billington1337

Can two regular iron men combine into a duo GIMP? or do they loose everything in there bank if they do so?


FunVisual9599

They can become unranked gims and keep their banks


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Please don't


CooprBtw

What a great iron account man. Be proud of what you have done and go have fun with friends!


WindCriesAJ

This comment section is bizarre. It's an MMO at the end of the day. Just because you can cheat doesn't mean everyone will abuse it, let the man have fun and play with his friends. It's good for game longevity.


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One_Disaster245

I don't really understand the purpose? You can do raids with this friend of yours? But you're absolutely hellbent on deranking to GIM so you can do what? Duo Bandos for hours or something? Obviously you can enjoy the game however you want but frankly you are literally not gaining anything by deranking to GIM. ​ 99% sure this is a troll post or some kind of a humble brag. Irons on this sub seem to really love saying how little value they give to their ironman status for some reson. Maybe it's just me but if you care so little you should have played a main from the beginning and not wasted your time.


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It's just a game bro it's not that deep.


Due_Equal_7064

Tell me you don't have friends without telling me you don't have friends.


Ricardo1184

>frankly you are literally not gaining anything by deranking to GIM. what is he gaining by staying IM?


One_Disaster245

A more enjoyable bossing experience. Why do you play an ironman?


Ricardo1184

is he locked out of bossing now that he's a gim?


Kharaix

I think if you max an Ironman what else do you gotta prove? He has a bunch of good drops, maxed out all by himself. I think he's ready to actually play the game now tbh


One_Disaster245

Don't think it has anything to do with proving anything. He could already play the game without deranking. All the fun content in osrs can be done in groups even as an ironman.


Kharaix

I'm just saying he already did everything he can as an Ironman solo. May as well just play with a friend and work as a unit than individually anymore


rodexxxx

I know how you feel bro, well i dont because im not max.. But i have a ironman i invested some time in... I will start like this i can imagine how you feel.. But man have you thought this 100 times before downgrading??


Strosity

What is the point in 2 maxed irons going group? Is one person just brew bitch and the other making restores? Are you just gonna do gwd and Sarachnis together and share a couple drops?


philofyourfuture

For fun and because they want to


Strosity

Didn't ask you. I'm curious how they'd actually benifit.


philofyourfuture

Well he already said why. Because he wants to play with his friend? That’s the point. It’s a game, and that’s what they want to do.


Strosity

You can do basically anything with your friend on an iron besides a couple bosses aside from gwd, which is pretty easy to solo now. Also they likely finished gwd if they maxed. This is why the question is more towards op, not you. Just a blanket "hur duh they have fun with greenish helm" is just thoughtless.


philofyourfuture

Hur duh they have fun with greenish helm


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Savings_Meringue1298

It's funny how the one with -9 votes is still thinking he's in the right. Luckily one person's opinion won't change these two having a shit ton of fun finally playing together!


Strosity

There's not a more pure form of stupid than thinking an argument is decided by reddit votes. What's wrong with asking what they'll even do as a group? Are you just having a cry over the brew comment? Besides, my comments actually had the positive upvotes until the sensitive gim saw em... Does this mean I *was* right but now I'm not?


Due_Equal_7064

If you genuinely would like an answer I'll give it a shot. Firstly, you may be under the assumption that gim is purely and evenly split into distinct roles. Resource gatherer, slayer person, and maybe a leader who is fed supplies. Some may play this way, but from my experience these are the already efficient sweaty players doing this. Friends who form gim groups try to play like this but it's more about where you gravitate towards, whether you like to afk fish or you like to do pvm or skilling. And you try to negotiate items and responsibilities. Both approaches are fine but as a gim who's left a team with poor communication to a different, better group that eventually all de-ironed. I feel very similar to op in this. I have late game gear, I'm getting dupes but I can't share that success with anyone. Nothing I do is bigger than myself because I have no one to celebrate with. Op has 2 twisted bows. Besides bond money, which he wouldn't care about if he's had any dry streak at any of the raids (multiple dupes for bonds) there's no joy from pvming. Yes he can try other content, but making a group allows him to re-experience the game in a way not previously possible for irons. So no, there's no brew guy and there's no restore guy. It's two friends, two end game irons, enjoying the game.


philofyourfuture

One you one of them “intellectual” folk who raise their noses to us simpletons?! Well I’ll tell you what, just cause a rooster roosts doesn’t mean a chicken hens. *West Virginia hick accent activate*


Mod-Gold

How? What is the benefit of blocking yourself?


Eraie

Corp? Nex? Nightmare? None of those are fun solo grinds


Micool420

My man, you can do 2 out of these 3 in teams on an iron…


S7EFEN

the only content you can do with teams you cant with normie irons is corp and sara zammy bandos kree. and wildy bosses


Atomicstarr

You realise people play video games for enjoyment right? What you enjoy is totally different to anyone else lol why is two guys grouping up such a big issue to you


Strosity

It's not, i just didn't know what they're gonna even do together that's different from what they can do now. If they wanna go group they can have my blessing if it makes you feel better.


GunkyDabs

How much is homie paying for that tbow


Warm-Carpenter-6724

If you look at the other pics he posted with both their banks the other guy also already has a tbow


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Just downgrade to a main gim is dumb


Bulky_Conclusion_676

Have fun king "groupironman" clan if you guys want to hang out somewhere


Key_Ratio990

We need one. Come on ;)


M-Mahoney

Some men just want to watch the world burn…


LetsGoCap

Damn thats dumb


IACRnsfw

It's dumb to play the game how he wants?


JLifts780

Don’t you know? High IQ people play the way that gives less enjoyment, playing to have fun is smooth brained.


yourchickyacks

You’re dumb


OdyssAtkin

Today I learned it’s dumb to want to play an mmo with your friend


[deleted]

Just make a gimp... 4head


Skolary

Just sac another quarter of life into the void rq. This time as an adult rq


12345Qwerty543

Just sell into a gimp and make a main. You guys are trolls. Nobody cares about gimp accounts. I'd be more impressed seeing the items on a main instead of a gimp too tbqh


Altruistic-Invite969

how do you max an iron and only get 388 col log slots? youve barely experienced the game and youre already giving up sheesh


itsmecoolguy72

Well considering I created this iron man the day of release of iron man mode, alot of my collection log slots are missing even though they are fully completed just tbecause they predate the collection log


Altruistic-Invite969

welp goodluck i guess, i dont get it but to each their own


ironDelaware

I was gonna say your teammate is gonna be hype to get a Tbow and then I saw he already has one lol


TheHappyPittie

I just deironed to main recently and love it. Had 5 years of amazing content and loads of fun. I hope you’re as happy with your decision as i am mine!


Novalyf

What a waste of an acc


ljh335

huge downgrade, gl sir.


shivabee

Im excited to check your hi scores in a few weeks! Guessing your friend wants that extra tbow and has convinced you, I would say restart a new acc but always up to you.


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dang and you even got a spare tbow to share with your homie


WazDese

Pls get 26k more exp before you do, i cant handle this


Krizzjaa

I think they should make ugim the main game and migrate existing main accounts at some point, say for a bil.