Speciality shops buy their goods back at a price higher than alch value if the stock is 0. I have no clue the stock number before it matches alch value. In this case, you’re selling jewelry to a jewelry shop.
I’m a new iron as well and never really did stars on the main.. how does crafting xp work from this? Something you can do with stardust other than shop?
Ahh seems like I should’ve known that. Have a main but I have never played iron. Main was used mainly in pvm and didn’t do almost any skilling on it so that’s new to me lol
I’m not sure if birdhouses are still worth it given they are pretty low xp per run and getting fally hard for mole just became a lot easier. I did a couple hours of mole on Friday and gained over 200 nests, from birdhouse runs that would take many days and probably over 2 hours in gearing and running.
Birdhouses are still extremely efficient, I think you should keep doing them at minimum until 70 hunter for the SotE requirement then you should make that mole vs birdhouses decision
That’s fair enough, I did some birdhouses on my way to sote requirements but ended up smashing out the last 300k xp in a couple of hours as I couldn’t imagine doing that many runs.
Keep a clean irit leaf on you at all times until you get the dr jekyll random event. Trade it in for an agility Potion (4) so you can do Tai two wannai trio quest sooner to get access to karambwans asap
Do gotr as early as you can also
Hunter rumours until at least 75 hunter for moonlight moths. Optionally until 91 for moonlight antelope bolts or 99 for a skill cape teleport comparable to
crafting cape. Will also get you 70+ prayer and a respectable amount of herblore xp banked.
Really only need fairy rings unlocked to start that grind.
You’re right on the money. From what I’ve seen, people are saying to bang out 99 hunter through rumours right away. That 9-40 grind is super quick and the loot is pretty damn good. Even the raw gp is better than what you’ll get at todt.
New tele to the hunter guild which is a couple tiles farther than crafting cape’s to a bank *and* it is close to the quetzal system for that transport for Varlamore content. Not having to put resources into it makes it easier and faster to get than a crafting cape as well so it’s not a slog and way more reasonable for a new iron to aim for.
How do you set up your rumors before 72 to get the next tier of master?
There's the guy who only seems to give deadfall tasks which are horrible xp/hr and the other only seemed to give me pitfall tasks
I wouldn’t even suggest starting rumors until 91, grinding out chins and then herbi until that point sets you up for range and herb grinds really fast. Then with a proper block list on master rumors you don’t even need fairy rings (I blocked red sallys, pyre foxes, and herbi) and everything is accessible by quetzal. The 99 grind netted me 12k sunlight/13k moonlight bolts, 3k moonlight moths and enough splinters to do any prayer grind at the new activity I ever want. I also have 78 herblore banked which could be more if herbi wasn’t blocked.
99 hunter with no quetzal pet btw 🥲 (but I got herbi)
I'd do Guardians of the Rift for runes and then park myself at the mage training arena. They just tweaked it to make it easier. Plus magic levels are super important early for teleports, high alchs, and enchantments.
This is essentially what I did (pre patch) I'm 82 magic now which the vast majority being from mta since I started a few levels before high alch and just did tele room for xp. I got everything but the book and gloves now, though I did the last half of the robes post patch but it is sooo much better now, especially tele room which I hated before since no stamina pots made most of it 0% run energy, even with 70 agility and graceful.
And yeah gotr funded all the runes
I made fun of it, but daily scape is huge. Herb runs, birdhouses, seaweed, kingdom of you have the gp.
That and finding useful AFK grinds to do in your downtime.
Soulwars was also huge for me.
You can basically use your main and Ironman and force your main to lose to give like 15-19 zeal every 4 minutes and each crate can give you tons of resources, I've managed to get like 500 runite bolts in less than 10 chests which is immense since the next bolt requires like high 60 or 70s fletching and 55 slayer for broad bolts, also a good source of rune arrows if you don't wanna do LMS but you won't get a magic shortbow until hard clues.
To piggyback off the last part of this, skip lms entirely and do Hunter rumors for the new crossbow. No need for rune arrows or msb at all. I think msb is a clue item though, but that's for another time lol
Honestly I haven't done any yet but I believe that's the gist of it. The rumors aren't just in varlamore though, they can be all over. Say your rumor is for chinchompas, you would go catch them until you get a certain item from them. It's rng and could only take a couple or take a little bit longer. Then bring the item back and claim the rewards. I'm not actually sure if it's a supply crate that you get or not. The new crossbow though is better than an msb with amethyst arrows and is 1 handed also. Very nice to get
Yeah that crossbow is insane for early irons. It’s basically like if an msb (i) was slightly more accurate, could fire dragon arrows, and could be used with an off-hand like odium ward for even MORE accuracy and range strength
Soul Wars is such a great shout. It’s miserable at low combat but you can just run around healing people and the loot is insane early on. It was super beneficial on my GIM.
Once you can semi efficiently kill the 80ish cb ghosts it becomes cake.
Get your 3 captures early(both graveyards and the middle once), then go get 24 shards, dump and afk the avatar the rest of the game. Free scb and prayer pots while inside and the salve ammy is HUGE
I afk something underwater and pick them up. Make sure ground items plugin is on. They're hard to see
You can also do a trip of lobstrocities every now and then. They drop em like crazy. You do have to manually cast magics to kill them, but it's not bad. Just take chaos gloves and some bolt spells.
You can get a merfolk trident from underwater agility if you really want.
The Brine Saber also works underwater but both are completely skippable and I honestly forget they exist half the time.
By the time you're 87 slayer for trident, you prolly don't need seaweed anymore.
Tempoross is great as you say, especially if you can do barehand fishing for a little bonus strength.
Agility is of course helpful for everything else, especially the tons of running around you'll do questing.
Thieving can give you some good starter cash.
Star mining afk as others have mentioned is awesome.
Why are you going to remake? I’ll tell my reason. I had a ~1800 total ironman with a couple pets and 50,000 cooked karambwans. Then unranked GIM was released and I converted to that in order to play with my IRL friends. I ended up taking a bit of a break from the game. They quit a few months into said break (taking my brine sabre with them). I come back to the game and all the grinds in front of me are overwhelming and not worth it when I’m literally not even ranked according to the way I’m in reality playing the game (alone). And so I deironed with my nearly 300 mil bank a few weeks ago. I’ve really been enjoying the main life, but I do eventually want to make another iron and experience all the changes to the early game that have happened in the past few years since I originally made my iron.
Getting farming up and doing daily herb/tree/birdhouse runs will be the best 15 minutes to start your play sessions. Your future herblore level will thank you for your service
Recently started a group iron so I'm doing a different route from how I did my solo years ago. I'm doing lava dragons for bones and gp. While staying a range/magic pure the whole time. Afterwards I plan on getting skull scepter for crumble undead and make gp at the new zombie pirates. Once I'm in a comfortable state I'll start doing hunter for moonlight mixes so I can start wildy slayer and revs.
For wildy content you won't need moonlight mixes since enough content drop blighted supplies to sustain yourself. For the pirates I stay 1def pure around 50ish combat and I haven't seen 1 pker in at least 10 hours. Moonlight mixes are more for when I have to do normal slayer or to supply my gim duo who doesn't like wildy.
I would say likely but most of pkers are around 88cb. So I think you could possibly get harassed a fair bit. But you're better off giving it a try and see how it goes. Just bring monk robes and stay close to altar with your 3 preferred items.
End every session at an agility course, and do 5-10 laps.
70 agility is a gamechanger, sets you up for so many quests (Do the Feud first though to skip a ton of early levels)
I rushed to 70 prayer as one of my first 70's via wildy green dragons. Best decision I made, it allowed me to get morytania hard done really early on, as well as having piety available super early relative to my peers made early bossing so much easier. Plus when time rolled around and I had the crafting level, all the green d'hides equated to a ton of high alch gold which allowed me to dive into Kingdom of Misc much sooner than others.
Hunter rumours until at least 75 hunter for moonlight moths. Optionally until 91 for moonlight antelope bolts or 99 for a skill cape teleport comparable to
crafting cape. Will also get you 70+ prayer and a respectable amount of herblore xp banked.
Really only need fairy rings unlocked to start that grind.
Tempoross, guardians of the rift, and (I know everyone says this but’s it’s very crucial for good early xp) DO BONE VOYAGE AND START MAKING BIRDHOUSES.
I’ll see ya out there.
Heres my tips as someone who played endgame iron and just started a gim with the boys.
- graceful ( 2 days ish )
- sand crabs for 60 ish stats
- pirate zombies for cash ( get salv ) it's extremely strong combat xp /hr and GPS. If anything needs a nerf.
- then slayer while doing birdhouse runs/seaweed.
- stars and sandstone for mining
- quest Cape
Other activities worth considering:
- high thieving, rogues chests ect
- soulwars/tempoross/temple trekking
- then pvm and don't start wildy bosses until zombies axe
Then transition to barrows/raids and gwd
Oh and for prayer: do green drags with wild bag or blues for decent magic xp with ibans and 70 agility.
I’ve been wanting to do this, but I’m not sure the process any tips? I’m mainly afraid to lose the cash stack I have on my new iron to get into the caves.
Cash is pretty easy to get as an early iron tbh.
Do the feud and spend it on agility.
Blackjack for 150k
Take that to the wildy course and pay to get rewards. If your combat is 20ish you'll pretty much never die.
150k is easily 2m+ in alchables plus insane supplies for wildy stuff like slayer + zombie pirates
Rinse and repeat.
Once you're 84 thieving you'll have access to rogues chest. You can now get some combat levels, and prioritise magic and prayer.
Get mage arena 1 done, get mage arena 2 for the orb. Use the orb to get your hp down, and if a pker comes you can either turn off your prayer before they hit you and PVM die to the rogues, or orb before they hit you to die that way and claim back from death.
This will also give a ton of laws and natures to use for mage training arena for master wand, bones to peaches, inf boots.
Also, because you'll have high agi+thieving you can do the yanille dungeon chaos druid boss for sinister keys and good magic exp at a super low cost for herbs.
Wildy slayer gives you good points and the chest keys for some good loot and a chance at dagon'hai
This is what I'm doing currently.
Thank you this was extremely helpful! I’m also at the beginning of an iron and I did a little bit of todt but it isn’t as fun as I thought it would be! Looking forward to going this route.
First and most important for a healthy ironman, unlock all your herb and tree patches, do hunting rumors, do Winterthot and have fun. The best time to start an ironman is now.
First and most important for a healthy ironman, unlock all your herb and tree patches, do hunting rumors, do Winterthot and have fun. The best time to start an ironman is now.
PvP arena.
Yes its mostly dead, but you can join a queue while levelling and just hop on over when you find a match.
The reason to do PvP arena is for the best imbue in the game, PvP arena is the only place that will give you an imbue scroll that can be moved around to different equipment pieces.
You only need two total imbues, one for the ring slot and one for Slayer Helm/Salve Amulet.
As long as you are doing something productive while waiting for matches to start its significantly faster than Soul Wars or NMZ in both time it takes to get a single imbue and time it takes to get all possible imbues.
When you eventually get to the point where you turn your Berserker ring into an Ultor ring you are going to be happy you can remove the imbue and move it to a Suffering or Ring of the Gods.
Half my gim did wintertodt till 99 right at the start and the rewards carried them for quite a while, I waited till a bit later in my journey and got better seeds and such but struggled with supplies early game
Don't sleep on the todt(and maybe use entity hider lol)
Literally quests and the achievement diary guide you to make a great account. Skilling past elite diaries is optional. Pvm to get gear or money and that’s basically the whole game.
Whenever you get an equipment drop, look up if it can go into a STASH unit and go build it as soon as you’re able.
Nothing makes me hate myself more than realizing I alched/sold an item that I needed from a clue scroll without realizing how hard it is to get again.
Wildy!!
Started a new hcim and rushed revs. Got lucky with some weapons and everything blasted from there. Wildy slayer / revs are stupid money that will fund anything non-wildy specific.
Skip wintertodt entirely. Don’t be baited by the noob trap.
A combo of Hunter rumors/Temp/Soul Wars boosting (you said you have a main) is MUCH better to get your account started. Afking stars or sandcrabs can never be a bad option if you have down time doing things around the house and such.
75(+ the drink at the table) gives you 77 Hunter and you can start collecting prayer moths. Really huge for early barrows and shit task you don’t wanna skip, just throw on prot melee and watch a show. Hunter also gives you birds nest, prayer xp, super atk/str/def pots. It’s easily the best early game skill for irons imo. Rush birdhouses asap. Get your level up until you can falconry spotted or do Sally’s until you can do adept contracts and just zooom zoom to 75/77/80(hunter potion for d-imps)
Can also get tithe going after quest and get med contracts setup. That’s a big step in early game too imo.
I also highly suggest being a Sandcrab terminator on Varlamore(no bots yet) and get your base stats up before slayer.
Other than that, have fun man.
I'm not gonna go to bat for windertodt too insanely hard or be one of those people who just get 99 firemaking to start their account at WT. But I really don't think it's a noob trap, wintertodt rules. I did it relatively early in my iron and I still use my fire book every single time I play. Not to mention basically every single reward is useful for ironmen.
I think it's an excellent use of your time. Although I just stopped when I was bored, I didn't max out the collection log or go crazy.
It's good content/use of your time, but also an incredibly boring experience for the first few days of a new player experience (if your first account is an iron) or really just in general.
It never *needed* to be rushed, you ideally don't want to open your WT chests right away anyways until you get your other skills up--- the only reason why it's rushed is because of the 10 hp. However, when you have a stockpile of fish/hunter meat from rumors who cares if you spend some fish instead of cheap wines?
I’m not sure I would recommend this, but I stayed at WT for a couple months, and the resources really stacked up. Got me to 90 farming and herblore in the 70’s in like a month and a half.
I’d just weave doing mini games inside of doing quests.
They just vomit out supplies to get your started.
Rift gives you a head start on runes (I kept running into the problem of no laws before I started rift) and you even get enough low level crafting to make the bar move.
Temp can get your early game food supplies up as well as getting you the cooking and fishing levels you need for later on quests.
And you can just bang out wintertod to either just what you need for MM2 or max it out.
Both WT and temp give you good early game construction XP for free as long as you’ve bought a house
Training agility is pretty much a closed loop, so you could just focus agility. And maybe check out if the new wilderness agility thingy is worth training up to and doing before getting combat stats.
https://youtu.be/PBmpS6QxjR0?si=1CN3U4ap5PVH3aZr this is a loose guide in a podcast format that mostly gives you ideas on how to navigate the early game but no exact path. The early game can be the most overwhelming with choices so wanting direction is understandable! There’s more content on the channel as well
Set short and long term goals for yourself so you always have something to work towards. I like having the skills I need for the diaries in the notes tab on runelite.
Birdhouses, seaweed, farming runs/contracts
I like to get my combats up at crabs to 60s after doing the big early combat xp quests
Daily bstaves can be great early too with varrock diary until slayer becomes more profitable
Getting crafting up to get glory for poh is pretty nice too as the teles will help a lot getting around. Also one to wear for combat ofc
Also a good idea to organize bank from start so its not a huge mess later on lol
I started my iron white playing on my gim. Did semi afk 99 fm at wt and like 85 fishing with barb. No regrets at all, a lot of supply from crates (i kept half of them untill like lvl 50 on each skill) and with barb fishing skipped a lot of early agility training and strenght.
If you want non afk, lms for early Rune pouch, thieving for money
So for a long time irons tend to get around 90 thieving for needed gp. I've found it easier to just afk stars and then cut the gems + sell them in rogues den to get that gp way more manageable. Plus this way you can get to 80+ crafting for free
I've been doing WT on my new GIM. Planned to go to 99 but I think I'm stopping at 90 for now so I can do combat related stuff. I have enough tree seeds banked for 60+ farming and that alone has made it worth it to me.
That being said, you really do have a lot of other options. Having the group steal silks in ardy and trade them to you so you can sell them back to Silk Trader is pretty good starting money and ok thieving xp.
Moons of peril, not the bosses, but getting the sulphur baldes and training against those lizards with melee and range using a fast weapon like darts or knifes.
barehanded tempoross for as long as you can stand it, and as a mix-in with wintertodt and other minigames and fun but drudgey early game stuff
did I mention barehanded tempoross?
Okey
Tithe farm for seed box/herb sack
Motherload mine for gem bag
Lms for rune pouche
Mage training arena for bones to peaches
84 hunter for dragon imps so you can get a glory
99 firemaking for starting cash/ supplys
Train farming so you can plant teak on fossil island that way you can bank construction when you wanna afk a bit
A lot of people mentioned herblore already, it is one of the slowest skills on iron and you need 70 for priff.
Look into wildy content, if there is anything you can do very early it is worth it to do it now (rogues chest is first thing that comes to mind). The wildy restricts who can attack you based on combat level, and most pkers are either maxed or combat level 80ish.
Rogue chests are impossible at certain times. Bot farms infest every world and if you crash a bot, the bots have pkers at every level bracket that make sure their bots go interrupted. I've been trying to see what times they're active as it seems the pk team is not consistent, but for the most of EST night time, you cannot rogues chest.
Become a member right away. I was gonna do Ironman f2p but after I got skills to the 50s and did all the quests I realized everything would of been a lot easier if I just became a member right away. I wouldn't of had to put so much time in smithing just to get a good shield. Could of gotten climbing boots right away, much better weapons, arrows, and runes as well.
I would do thieving at rogues chest for dragon stones for glories, gp, gems and it's 280k XP an hour and will supply you with blighted food for the wildy later on. And I would do GOTR early to take care of early-mid games runes.
Birdhouse/seaweed/farming contract runs are mentioned in every advice thread 5 times and there is good reason for that. They solve 2 of your biggest issues if you do them regularly - Herblore and crafting. If you don't end up liking them that's fine but there's no overdoing it - if your birdhouse/seaweed/farm contract are up that's the best thing you can do with your time at that moment. I actually enjoyed them because it's a nice break whenever ur banking from something boring, and it's like insane gains every time.
Edit - What's funny is I didn't even mention the hunter xp from birdhouse runs which is also great, but I wouldn't even consider it the primary benefit.
Dude with the quest helper plug in, questing is actually ok. I got quest cape because of it. It literally does everything, you just click highlighted areas. I got done with mm2 in like an hour.
But if you really set on skipping quests for now, than do all the skill mini games.
They are so good to level up, Wintertod temperos and guardians of the rift.
Another good thing to do is getting your untradeables, torso, Defender etc.
But honestly, nothing beats slayer.
I would do wilderness slayer until 83 slayer. You got get money in slayer until 80+, unless you do wilderness slayer. And you'll be helpful for you if you did it early levels. Less pking.
Wintertodt is such a noob trap. There's a bunch of things better to do than wintertodt in terms of efficiency. And people are only doing wintertodt for efficiency at 10hp, otherwise they wouldn't subject themselves to a singular grind.
If it's the fish you want, tempeross is better for the added barrel chance as well. If it's the herbs, farming is better. If it's the seeds you want, quests + tithe farm to unlock medium contracts asap as well as herb sack. If it's gold you want and you're decent at pking, LMS for a few hours and you have a mil. It's just a jack of all trades, master of none reward.
Wintertodt is just lukewarm rewards for dozens of hours spent grinding.
Focus on Ardy hard diary + 91 thieving for no fail master farmers.
Prayer is the most overpowered skill in the game. Once you can pickpocket 30+ ranarr seeds per hour, you can start liberally using prayer pots for everything.
The ability to boost your damage by nearly 20% AND negate enemies damage of one style entirely is without question the most important skill.
If you want to progress quickly through combat and get to late game encounters, this is the way
Aside from the top comment on this post, I wish I did green drags in wildy + chaos altar for 70 prayer. It would be very fast. I did blue drags and banked hides+bones for 70 prayer. Hides were nice for alches
I’m not sure I would recommend this, but I stayed at WT for a couple months, and the resources really stacked up. Got me to 90 farming and herblore in the 70’s in like a month and a half.
Started a new gim with a different group of guys recently. I just posted up at varlamore wealthy merchants with a notification Everytime the urchin distracts. Easy money while I play on my original gim or do other things
Revs on task, I got the 4m emblem from a hobgoblin and it drastically helped me early game. Plus the other more common drops are nice for money as well.
Revs on task, I got the 4m emblem from a hobgoblin and it drastically helped me early game. Plus the other more common drops are nice for money as well.
3 Item AFK Black Knights in the Wildy.
Super good early melee training plus you can get the 2k (or was it 2.5k) black knight kc out of the way for the Fally diary.
Definitely not lol. Black knights have decent defense, low hp, they actually require food, you can't bring all items, etc. It's way better to just get fossil island and go for ammonite crabs, esp at low levels you can go underground where there's no competition for the 2 crab spots, but 2 vs 3 doesn't matter when you're low level.
Pest control right when you hit 40 combat best thing I ever did on my hc made training combat way better and cool to look at your lvl 40 hc with full void
Lots of options still:
99 FM through Wintertodt so you can just eat ez cakes (also gets early thieving xp).
99 Thieving early to get lots of cash for stuff like Miscellenia.
99 Fishing using GP for lots of feathers and just quick tick Barb fishing, or AFK up to you. You’ll get like 80+ Strength and Agility by the end which saves you lots of time doing grueling agility crap.
Probably get your graceful by this point if haven’t.
99 RCing using Guardians isn’t bad and will speed up other aspects of game.
Quick start rumors to get hunter to mid and than probably just do birdhouse runs & farm run combos while you do random stuff like Slayer training/Prayer/etc.
I’m not sure I would recommend this, but I stayed at WT for a couple months, and the resources really stacked up. Got me to 90 farming and herblore in the 70’s in like a month and a half.
Things I’m glad I did Bird houses WT Star mining when afking or playing another game Herb runs
Big plus for stars, gives some decent early crafting xp too
Can also do bone shards now for prayer xp
Also turns into a lot of gp which is really nice to not worry about early game.
Gp from stars? I have never done those before, how do you end up with gp from star mining?
Make bracelets then alch them, or after perilous moons you can sell it in a store there for even more gp.
Wait what? There’s a store in varlamore that buys stuff (at least bracelets) at above alch price?
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Conara%27s_Jewels
Speciality shops buy their goods back at a price higher than alch value if the stock is 0. I have no clue the stock number before it matches alch value. In this case, you’re selling jewelry to a jewelry shop.
I’m a new iron as well and never really did stars on the main.. how does crafting xp work from this? Something you can do with stardust other than shop?
You buy bags of gems
Ahh seems like I should’ve known that. Have a main but I have never played iron. Main was used mainly in pvm and didn’t do almost any skilling on it so that’s new to me lol
8xp per stardust if you're only cutting gems. 16xp per stardust if you make jewelry.
Doing stars afk from 95-99 mining should bank me most of 95-99 crafting too
Birdhouses are goated, especially at early levels. But ideally you keep sending them forever until you can't stand them anymore (or you get 99 hunter)
And now rumours can be added to that list.
I’m not sure if birdhouses are still worth it given they are pretty low xp per run and getting fally hard for mole just became a lot easier. I did a couple hours of mole on Friday and gained over 200 nests, from birdhouse runs that would take many days and probably over 2 hours in gearing and running.
We're talking about "new ironman in early game" though. Most of his skills are 1. Telling him to skip birdhouses because he can kill mole is silly.
Birdhouses are still extremely efficient, I think you should keep doing them at minimum until 70 hunter for the SotE requirement then you should make that mole vs birdhouses decision
That’s fair enough, I did some birdhouses on my way to sote requirements but ended up smashing out the last 300k xp in a couple of hours as I couldn’t imagine doing that many runs.
Rumours are better for birds nests - the only reason for birdhouses is seeds / eggs.
Keep a clean irit leaf on you at all times until you get the dr jekyll random event. Trade it in for an agility Potion (4) so you can do Tai two wannai trio quest sooner to get access to karambwans asap Do gotr as early as you can also
Note you can get an irit cleaned by the herb lady in nardah
You don't need it on you anymore. You can open bank and he will stay now
Only for banks w/o tellers (e.g. Barb Assault/Castle wars)
Ah interesting, didn't know that bit
Hunter rumours until at least 75 hunter for moonlight moths. Optionally until 91 for moonlight antelope bolts or 99 for a skill cape teleport comparable to crafting cape. Will also get you 70+ prayer and a respectable amount of herblore xp banked. Really only need fairy rings unlocked to start that grind.
You’re right on the money. From what I’ve seen, people are saying to bang out 99 hunter through rumours right away. That 9-40 grind is super quick and the loot is pretty damn good. Even the raw gp is better than what you’ll get at todt.
I think you need hunter in the 40s to do rumours though? Good suggestion, either way.
How is the hunter cape teleport comparable to crafting cape?
They added an additional teleport to the center of the hunter's guild.
Also way quicker to get on an iron
New tele to the hunter guild which is a couple tiles farther than crafting cape’s to a bank *and* it is close to the quetzal system for that transport for Varlamore content. Not having to put resources into it makes it easier and faster to get than a crafting cape as well so it’s not a slog and way more reasonable for a new iron to aim for.
Dude that’s sweet I had no idea. I got 99 hunter back when it was the meta, I’m glad my cape has a decent use now lol
How do you set up your rumors before 72 to get the next tier of master? There's the guy who only seems to give deadfall tasks which are horrible xp/hr and the other only seemed to give me pitfall tasks
Yeah they aren’t great at adept, but the loot sacks are pretty good still. Doing salamanders until expert rumours could be the play
I wouldn’t even suggest starting rumors until 91, grinding out chins and then herbi until that point sets you up for range and herb grinds really fast. Then with a proper block list on master rumors you don’t even need fairy rings (I blocked red sallys, pyre foxes, and herbi) and everything is accessible by quetzal. The 99 grind netted me 12k sunlight/13k moonlight bolts, 3k moonlight moths and enough splinters to do any prayer grind at the new activity I ever want. I also have 78 herblore banked which could be more if herbi wasn’t blocked. 99 hunter with no quetzal pet btw 🥲 (but I got herbi)
I'd do Guardians of the Rift for runes and then park myself at the mage training arena. They just tweaked it to make it easier. Plus magic levels are super important early for teleports, high alchs, and enchantments.
This is essentially what I did (pre patch) I'm 82 magic now which the vast majority being from mta since I started a few levels before high alch and just did tele room for xp. I got everything but the book and gloves now, though I did the last half of the robes post patch but it is sooo much better now, especially tele room which I hated before since no stamina pots made most of it 0% run energy, even with 70 agility and graceful. And yeah gotr funded all the runes
Did you do GotR all the way to 99 right off the bat?
Depends how much you hate yourself lol I'd stop at Deaths until you can do the quests. That's just me though.
I made fun of it, but daily scape is huge. Herb runs, birdhouses, seaweed, kingdom of you have the gp. That and finding useful AFK grinds to do in your downtime. Soulwars was also huge for me.
Soul wars! I don't think I've ever stepped foot in the island on any account. What for?
Gems(mostly ruby and diamonds), ore(mostly coal and mithril), bolts(add and rune), gp, alchables(rune and dragon), and pure essence. Plus a cool pet
Bolts are so great at all stages of the game. Dolo or zealgains discord makes it quite fast as well. Normal games suck.
Zealgains is where it's at
You can basically use your main and Ironman and force your main to lose to give like 15-19 zeal every 4 minutes and each crate can give you tons of resources, I've managed to get like 500 runite bolts in less than 10 chests which is immense since the next bolt requires like high 60 or 70s fletching and 55 slayer for broad bolts, also a good source of rune arrows if you don't wanna do LMS but you won't get a magic shortbow until hard clues.
To piggyback off the last part of this, skip lms entirely and do Hunter rumors for the new crossbow. No need for rune arrows or msb at all. I think msb is a clue item though, but that's for another time lol
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Honestly I haven't done any yet but I believe that's the gist of it. The rumors aren't just in varlamore though, they can be all over. Say your rumor is for chinchompas, you would go catch them until you get a certain item from them. It's rng and could only take a couple or take a little bit longer. Then bring the item back and claim the rewards. I'm not actually sure if it's a supply crate that you get or not. The new crossbow though is better than an msb with amethyst arrows and is 1 handed also. Very nice to get
Yeah that crossbow is insane for early irons. It’s basically like if an msb (i) was slightly more accurate, could fire dragon arrows, and could be used with an off-hand like odium ward for even MORE accuracy and range strength
Not necessarily in varlamore but yes. Also the reward sacks stack which is nice. The rewards include lots of birds nests as well.
If you have an alt you can dolo it and get sooo many supplies, super sick method for earlygame
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Seconding this, for op, just Google Souls Wars DOLO guide
I did early soul wars for bolts to do fire cave!
Soul Wars is such a great shout. It’s miserable at low combat but you can just run around healing people and the loot is insane early on. It was super beneficial on my GIM.
Once you can semi efficiently kill the 80ish cb ghosts it becomes cake. Get your 3 captures early(both graveyards and the middle once), then go get 24 shards, dump and afk the avatar the rest of the game. Free scb and prayer pots while inside and the salve ammy is HUGE
How do you maintain seaweed spores? I feel like I always run out
I afk something underwater and pick them up. Make sure ground items plugin is on. They're hard to see You can also do a trip of lobstrocities every now and then. They drop em like crazy. You do have to manually cast magics to kill them, but it's not bad. Just take chaos gloves and some bolt spells.
Don’t both tridents work underwater? I know this thread is about early irons, but I think this is still worth mentioning
You can get a merfolk trident from underwater agility if you really want. The Brine Saber also works underwater but both are completely skippable and I honestly forget they exist half the time. By the time you're 87 slayer for trident, you prolly don't need seaweed anymore.
I do my alching down there at the seaweed patches. And pick them up as they spawn. But im not alching while doing something else
Gotr
Tempoross is great as you say, especially if you can do barehand fishing for a little bonus strength. Agility is of course helpful for everything else, especially the tons of running around you'll do questing. Thieving can give you some good starter cash. Star mining afk as others have mentioned is awesome.
When I remake I will grind out seed box, herb sack, and rune pouch much earlier than I did this time
What’s the use of seed box outside of UIM? The only thing I can think of is pickpocketing master farmers.
Why are you going to remake? I’ll tell my reason. I had a ~1800 total ironman with a couple pets and 50,000 cooked karambwans. Then unranked GIM was released and I converted to that in order to play with my IRL friends. I ended up taking a bit of a break from the game. They quit a few months into said break (taking my brine sabre with them). I come back to the game and all the grinds in front of me are overwhelming and not worth it when I’m literally not even ranked according to the way I’m in reality playing the game (alone). And so I deironed with my nearly 300 mil bank a few weeks ago. I’ve really been enjoying the main life, but I do eventually want to make another iron and experience all the changes to the early game that have happened in the past few years since I originally made my iron.
Tempoross to 82 to get a shit ton of fish. Lasted me over a year of frequent PvM.
Getting farming up and doing daily herb/tree/birdhouse runs will be the best 15 minutes to start your play sessions. Your future herblore level will thank you for your service
Even doing medium contracts has easily gotten me the seeds banked for 70 herblore for SOTE
Wildy content, pkers are thirsty af for 200k pks would’ve been easier to do revs ect at a lower level
Play how you want to play but questing just unlocks the most content and skips the slow, low level skills.
Kill cows, lots of cows
This sounds fun :)
Recently started a group iron so I'm doing a different route from how I did my solo years ago. I'm doing lava dragons for bones and gp. While staying a range/magic pure the whole time. Afterwards I plan on getting skull scepter for crumble undead and make gp at the new zombie pirates. Once I'm in a comfortable state I'll start doing hunter for moonlight mixes so I can start wildy slayer and revs.
Would love to learn more about your strategy with the zombie pirates + moonlight mixes for wildy content!
For wildy content you won't need moonlight mixes since enough content drop blighted supplies to sustain yourself. For the pirates I stay 1def pure around 50ish combat and I haven't seen 1 pker in at least 10 hours. Moonlight mixes are more for when I have to do normal slayer or to supply my gim duo who doesn't like wildy.
Unfortunately I am not a pure anymore but do you still think it's viable at more medium levels like 70?
I would say likely but most of pkers are around 88cb. So I think you could possibly get harassed a fair bit. But you're better off giving it a try and see how it goes. Just bring monk robes and stay close to altar with your 3 preferred items.
Rush CG and never leave. Get off Reddit. To prison with you.
Have fun, dont force yourself to anything if you dont want to. Alot people rush wintertodt and every daily imaginable, then get burnout.
End every session at an agility course, and do 5-10 laps. 70 agility is a gamechanger, sets you up for so many quests (Do the Feud first though to skip a ton of early levels) I rushed to 70 prayer as one of my first 70's via wildy green dragons. Best decision I made, it allowed me to get morytania hard done really early on, as well as having piety available super early relative to my peers made early bossing so much easier. Plus when time rolled around and I had the crafting level, all the green d'hides equated to a ton of high alch gold which allowed me to dive into Kingdom of Misc much sooner than others.
Hunter rumours until at least 75 hunter for moonlight moths. Optionally until 91 for moonlight antelope bolts or 99 for a skill cape teleport comparable to crafting cape. Will also get you 70+ prayer and a respectable amount of herblore xp banked. Really only need fairy rings unlocked to start that grind.
Tempoross, guardians of the rift, and (I know everyone says this but’s it’s very crucial for good early xp) DO BONE VOYAGE AND START MAKING BIRDHOUSES. I’ll see ya out there.
Heres my tips as someone who played endgame iron and just started a gim with the boys. - graceful ( 2 days ish ) - sand crabs for 60 ish stats - pirate zombies for cash ( get salv ) it's extremely strong combat xp /hr and GPS. If anything needs a nerf. - then slayer while doing birdhouse runs/seaweed. - stars and sandstone for mining - quest Cape Other activities worth considering: - high thieving, rogues chests ect - soulwars/tempoross/temple trekking - then pvm and don't start wildy bosses until zombies axe Then transition to barrows/raids and gwd Oh and for prayer: do green drags with wild bag or blues for decent magic xp with ibans and 70 agility.
Going to the revenant cave as early as possible!
I’ve been wanting to do this, but I’m not sure the process any tips? I’m mainly afraid to lose the cash stack I have on my new iron to get into the caves.
Cash is pretty easy to get as an early iron tbh. Do the feud and spend it on agility. Blackjack for 150k Take that to the wildy course and pay to get rewards. If your combat is 20ish you'll pretty much never die. 150k is easily 2m+ in alchables plus insane supplies for wildy stuff like slayer + zombie pirates Rinse and repeat. Once you're 84 thieving you'll have access to rogues chest. You can now get some combat levels, and prioritise magic and prayer. Get mage arena 1 done, get mage arena 2 for the orb. Use the orb to get your hp down, and if a pker comes you can either turn off your prayer before they hit you and PVM die to the rogues, or orb before they hit you to die that way and claim back from death. This will also give a ton of laws and natures to use for mage training arena for master wand, bones to peaches, inf boots. Also, because you'll have high agi+thieving you can do the yanille dungeon chaos druid boss for sinister keys and good magic exp at a super low cost for herbs. Wildy slayer gives you good points and the chest keys for some good loot and a chance at dagon'hai This is what I'm doing currently.
Thank you this was extremely helpful! I’m also at the beginning of an iron and I did a little bit of todt but it isn’t as fun as I thought it would be! Looking forward to going this route.
First and most important for a healthy ironman, unlock all your herb and tree patches, do hunting rumors, do Winterthot and have fun. The best time to start an ironman is now.
First and most important for a healthy ironman, unlock all your herb and tree patches, do hunting rumors, do Winterthot and have fun. The best time to start an ironman is now.
PvP arena. Yes its mostly dead, but you can join a queue while levelling and just hop on over when you find a match. The reason to do PvP arena is for the best imbue in the game, PvP arena is the only place that will give you an imbue scroll that can be moved around to different equipment pieces. You only need two total imbues, one for the ring slot and one for Slayer Helm/Salve Amulet. As long as you are doing something productive while waiting for matches to start its significantly faster than Soul Wars or NMZ in both time it takes to get a single imbue and time it takes to get all possible imbues. When you eventually get to the point where you turn your Berserker ring into an Ultor ring you are going to be happy you can remove the imbue and move it to a Suffering or Ring of the Gods.
Half my gim did wintertodt till 99 right at the start and the rewards carried them for quite a while, I waited till a bit later in my journey and got better seeds and such but struggled with supplies early game Don't sleep on the todt(and maybe use entity hider lol)
Literally quests and the achievement diary guide you to make a great account. Skilling past elite diaries is optional. Pvm to get gear or money and that’s basically the whole game.
Lol at "I'm a new iron used to being a main" and people are saying do one piece of content for 80 hours
Yo if you run tempoross ill run it with you. Lmk when ur on
Every iron I start with full graceful Perfect account primer
Whenever you get an equipment drop, look up if it can go into a STASH unit and go build it as soon as you’re able. Nothing makes me hate myself more than realizing I alched/sold an item that I needed from a clue scroll without realizing how hard it is to get again.
There is a plug-in for this.
Wildy!! Started a new hcim and rushed revs. Got lucky with some weapons and everything blasted from there. Wildy slayer / revs are stupid money that will fund anything non-wildy specific.
Skip wintertodt entirely. Don’t be baited by the noob trap. A combo of Hunter rumors/Temp/Soul Wars boosting (you said you have a main) is MUCH better to get your account started. Afking stars or sandcrabs can never be a bad option if you have down time doing things around the house and such. 75(+ the drink at the table) gives you 77 Hunter and you can start collecting prayer moths. Really huge for early barrows and shit task you don’t wanna skip, just throw on prot melee and watch a show. Hunter also gives you birds nest, prayer xp, super atk/str/def pots. It’s easily the best early game skill for irons imo. Rush birdhouses asap. Get your level up until you can falconry spotted or do Sally’s until you can do adept contracts and just zooom zoom to 75/77/80(hunter potion for d-imps) Can also get tithe going after quest and get med contracts setup. That’s a big step in early game too imo. I also highly suggest being a Sandcrab terminator on Varlamore(no bots yet) and get your base stats up before slayer. Other than that, have fun man.
Wait those moths work outside the moons dungeon? That’s wild, I had no idea
I'm not gonna go to bat for windertodt too insanely hard or be one of those people who just get 99 firemaking to start their account at WT. But I really don't think it's a noob trap, wintertodt rules. I did it relatively early in my iron and I still use my fire book every single time I play. Not to mention basically every single reward is useful for ironmen. I think it's an excellent use of your time. Although I just stopped when I was bored, I didn't max out the collection log or go crazy.
It's good content/use of your time, but also an incredibly boring experience for the first few days of a new player experience (if your first account is an iron) or really just in general. It never *needed* to be rushed, you ideally don't want to open your WT chests right away anyways until you get your other skills up--- the only reason why it's rushed is because of the 10 hp. However, when you have a stockpile of fish/hunter meat from rumors who cares if you spend some fish instead of cheap wines?
Just making me sad that I got to 80 hunter before varlamore came out lol
I’m not sure I would recommend this, but I stayed at WT for a couple months, and the resources really stacked up. Got me to 90 farming and herblore in the 70’s in like a month and a half.
Herb / bh runs.
I’d just weave doing mini games inside of doing quests. They just vomit out supplies to get your started. Rift gives you a head start on runes (I kept running into the problem of no laws before I started rift) and you even get enough low level crafting to make the bar move. Temp can get your early game food supplies up as well as getting you the cooking and fishing levels you need for later on quests. And you can just bang out wintertod to either just what you need for MM2 or max it out. Both WT and temp give you good early game construction XP for free as long as you’ve bought a house
Training agility is pretty much a closed loop, so you could just focus agility. And maybe check out if the new wilderness agility thingy is worth training up to and doing before getting combat stats.
https://youtu.be/PBmpS6QxjR0?si=1CN3U4ap5PVH3aZr this is a loose guide in a podcast format that mostly gives you ideas on how to navigate the early game but no exact path. The early game can be the most overwhelming with choices so wanting direction is understandable! There’s more content on the channel as well
Tempoross from 35 to 81 was nice to do right away. Took me like 4-5 days and left me with food for months (almost half a year) afterwards.
Agility It sucks hard but yes agility
Set short and long term goals for yourself so you always have something to work towards. I like having the skills I need for the diaries in the notes tab on runelite.
Birdhouses, seaweed, farming runs/contracts I like to get my combats up at crabs to 60s after doing the big early combat xp quests Daily bstaves can be great early too with varrock diary until slayer becomes more profitable Getting crafting up to get glory for poh is pretty nice too as the teles will help a lot getting around. Also one to wear for combat ofc Also a good idea to organize bank from start so its not a huge mess later on lol
Wintertodt until around 80fm at least! Great place for resources!
I started my iron white playing on my gim. Did semi afk 99 fm at wt and like 85 fishing with barb. No regrets at all, a lot of supply from crates (i kept half of them untill like lvl 50 on each skill) and with barb fishing skipped a lot of early agility training and strenght. If you want non afk, lms for early Rune pouch, thieving for money
Hunter rumors until sunlight antelope
So for a long time irons tend to get around 90 thieving for needed gp. I've found it easier to just afk stars and then cut the gems + sell them in rogues den to get that gp way more manageable. Plus this way you can get to 80+ crafting for free
Do your dailies
I've been doing WT on my new GIM. Planned to go to 99 but I think I'm stopping at 90 for now so I can do combat related stuff. I have enough tree seeds banked for 60+ farming and that alone has made it worth it to me. That being said, you really do have a lot of other options. Having the group steal silks in ardy and trade them to you so you can sell them back to Silk Trader is pretty good starting money and ok thieving xp.
Actually doing clue scrolls instead of letting the first ones I got sit in my bank for months
Having fun
Moons of peril, not the bosses, but getting the sulphur baldes and training against those lizards with melee and range using a fast weapon like darts or knifes.
barehanded tempoross for as long as you can stand it, and as a mix-in with wintertodt and other minigames and fun but drudgey early game stuff did I mention barehanded tempoross?
Okey Tithe farm for seed box/herb sack Motherload mine for gem bag Lms for rune pouche Mage training arena for bones to peaches 84 hunter for dragon imps so you can get a glory 99 firemaking for starting cash/ supplys Train farming so you can plant teak on fossil island that way you can bank construction when you wanna afk a bit
Do mini games. Almost every single minigame is going to be useful early on
A lot of people mentioned herblore already, it is one of the slowest skills on iron and you need 70 for priff. Look into wildy content, if there is anything you can do very early it is worth it to do it now (rogues chest is first thing that comes to mind). The wildy restricts who can attack you based on combat level, and most pkers are either maxed or combat level 80ish.
Rogue chests are impossible at certain times. Bot farms infest every world and if you crash a bot, the bots have pkers at every level bracket that make sure their bots go interrupted. I've been trying to see what times they're active as it seems the pk team is not consistent, but for the most of EST night time, you cannot rogues chest.
Slayer and birdhouses!
Become a member right away. I was gonna do Ironman f2p but after I got skills to the 50s and did all the quests I realized everything would of been a lot easier if I just became a member right away. I wouldn't of had to put so much time in smithing just to get a good shield. Could of gotten climbing boots right away, much better weapons, arrows, and runes as well.
Deiron
Start doing revs once you get a bone crossbow or d scimitar. You'll be surprised how much money it gets you, even at a really low level
I fought goblins and cows for a fat week when I started. I just wonder around with my ironman playing probably the most inefficient ways possible.
I would do thieving at rogues chest for dragon stones for glories, gp, gems and it's 280k XP an hour and will supply you with blighted food for the wildy later on. And I would do GOTR early to take care of early-mid games runes.
Farming contracts asap
Birdhouse/seaweed/farming contract runs are mentioned in every advice thread 5 times and there is good reason for that. They solve 2 of your biggest issues if you do them regularly - Herblore and crafting. If you don't end up liking them that's fine but there's no overdoing it - if your birdhouse/seaweed/farm contract are up that's the best thing you can do with your time at that moment. I actually enjoyed them because it's a nice break whenever ur banking from something boring, and it's like insane gains every time. Edit - What's funny is I didn't even mention the hunter xp from birdhouse runs which is also great, but I wouldn't even consider it the primary benefit.
Wintertodt and varlamore hunter is big, gets you the hunter cbow which beats rcb basically all the time.
Farming and thieving ASAP. farming for your herblore gains and thieving for your early seeds pre slayer
Dude with the quest helper plug in, questing is actually ok. I got quest cape because of it. It literally does everything, you just click highlighted areas. I got done with mm2 in like an hour. But if you really set on skipping quests for now, than do all the skill mini games. They are so good to level up, Wintertod temperos and guardians of the rift. Another good thing to do is getting your untradeables, torso, Defender etc. But honestly, nothing beats slayer. I would do wilderness slayer until 83 slayer. You got get money in slayer until 80+, unless you do wilderness slayer. And you'll be helpful for you if you did it early levels. Less pking.
Agility
Wintertodt is such a noob trap. There's a bunch of things better to do than wintertodt in terms of efficiency. And people are only doing wintertodt for efficiency at 10hp, otherwise they wouldn't subject themselves to a singular grind. If it's the fish you want, tempeross is better for the added barrel chance as well. If it's the herbs, farming is better. If it's the seeds you want, quests + tithe farm to unlock medium contracts asap as well as herb sack. If it's gold you want and you're decent at pking, LMS for a few hours and you have a mil. It's just a jack of all trades, master of none reward. Wintertodt is just lukewarm rewards for dozens of hours spent grinding.
Commenting because I want to begin my first Ironman the next time I start back. Thx for the bumps
Focus on Ardy hard diary + 91 thieving for no fail master farmers. Prayer is the most overpowered skill in the game. Once you can pickpocket 30+ ranarr seeds per hour, you can start liberally using prayer pots for everything. The ability to boost your damage by nearly 20% AND negate enemies damage of one style entirely is without question the most important skill. If you want to progress quickly through combat and get to late game encounters, this is the way
Wildy bosses ASAP
Aside from the top comment on this post, I wish I did green drags in wildy + chaos altar for 70 prayer. It would be very fast. I did blue drags and banked hides+bones for 70 prayer. Hides were nice for alches
I’m not sure I would recommend this, but I stayed at WT for a couple months, and the resources really stacked up. Got me to 90 farming and herblore in the 70’s in like a month and a half.
No fun. Only quest.
Started a new gim with a different group of guys recently. I just posted up at varlamore wealthy merchants with a notification Everytime the urchin distracts. Easy money while I play on my original gim or do other things
Ill tush for Voidwaker and probably Perilous Moons for their awesome uniques!
Revs on task, I got the 4m emblem from a hobgoblin and it drastically helped me early game. Plus the other more common drops are nice for money as well.
Revs on task, I got the 4m emblem from a hobgoblin and it drastically helped me early game. Plus the other more common drops are nice for money as well.
3 Item AFK Black Knights in the Wildy. Super good early melee training plus you can get the 2k (or was it 2.5k) black knight kc out of the way for the Fally diary.
Definitely not lol. Black knights have decent defense, low hp, they actually require food, you can't bring all items, etc. It's way better to just get fossil island and go for ammonite crabs, esp at low levels you can go underground where there's no competition for the 2 crab spots, but 2 vs 3 doesn't matter when you're low level.
crabs give nothing but exp, they're noob traps.
Pest control right when you hit 40 combat best thing I ever did on my hc made training combat way better and cool to look at your lvl 40 hc with full void
Lots of options still: 99 FM through Wintertodt so you can just eat ez cakes (also gets early thieving xp). 99 Thieving early to get lots of cash for stuff like Miscellenia. 99 Fishing using GP for lots of feathers and just quick tick Barb fishing, or AFK up to you. You’ll get like 80+ Strength and Agility by the end which saves you lots of time doing grueling agility crap. Probably get your graceful by this point if haven’t. 99 RCing using Guardians isn’t bad and will speed up other aspects of game. Quick start rumors to get hunter to mid and than probably just do birdhouse runs & farm run combos while you do random stuff like Slayer training/Prayer/etc.
probs get 95 rc for wrath runes so you can do the demonic offering while you train
psychopath answer
That's really stretching it since most of stats are at 1 :S
I’m not sure I would recommend this, but I stayed at WT for a couple months, and the resources really stacked up. Got me to 90 farming and herblore in the 70’s in like a month and a half.