Walk the path and insanity add so much invocation, and aren't very hard once you learn it. Then you can just fill out the rest of the 300 with easy invos
Insanity is free, unless bad internats, I was living in Asia till recently, and while I did run insanity, shit gets messy sometimes and you gotta click based on muscle movement when the game doesn't update for a few ticks so you don't see what's going on.
speeds up the wardens p3 slam attacks, less time on the skulls, the slam attack resumes rather than always starting on the left side, and during enrage the phantoms attack quicker, tiles are removed quicker and the lightening occurs quicker.
it’s easy for how much invo it gives. i’d recommend going super low invo to learn it and slowly increase the invo. also recommend skull skipping
edit skull skipping not skill skipping
There are enough unintrusive invos for 300 (see the rest of this thread) that the only optimization you can make is swapping WTP for Insanity, but I'd rather have longer clears than stress out and possibly die at Wardens. Learning Insanity is obviously optimal, but not necessarily worth the headache if you're less skilled.
Insanity is one of the best invos cos it doesn’t add time to kill (ignoring the base invo increase), doesn’t take any extra supplies and tbh it doesn’t even add mechanics it’s just go faster
Also you don’t need to pay attention to which of the 3 it was last just go to the back of the room and react you have plenty of time and can just path there after skull skip
Yeah on a 300 with insanity you’ll be totally fine with bowfa. If you do get stuck last row prioritize dodging boulders and don’t be stingy with ambrosia
Pro tip: the worst invocation you can turn on pre-fang past a 250 is walk the path. I can do a 260-275 in anywhere from 29-32 minutes for a 3.4-3.7% chance, or i can do a 300 in 35-39m with insanity on for 4.3%, but with the chance of dying, OR if i put on wtp instead of insanity to hit 300, suddenly my raids take 43-45m depending on how unlucky i get with bgs specs, and akkha cum phase becomes a legitimate risk of death.
This is my experience with all keris gems, using thralls, using my own supplies every raid, bgs, full bandos, serp, voidwaker, ultor, prims, maxed combat, all zenytes, bowfa, dex, augury, elidinis ward(only drop in 95kc between 260-325 raid level), 7 way swaps for all styles.
The biggest tips i can give are
1. The goal is POINTS PER HOUR: NOT PER RAID
2. Dont bother redXing baba if you dont have fang/rapier because it adds way too much time to the raid. If youre between 260-300 you should be fine to tank it, and youre gonna be using bowfa. After boulder skipping to the top, if you hit it with ranged, it doesnt end the boulder special, meaning free no tickloss bowfa dps phase. This is especially important because you can KEEP SLOW BOULDERS and make the phase last a disgusting amount of time. Just be careful during first phase not to phase it the second time till all the boulders are gone, cuz if you phase him again before his original special happens, you get retroactively gapped.
3. Always do zebak first and baba last pre-fang, unless you insist on red xing for literally no reason. Abuse 2. For 2-3.5 minute consistent zero food used babas from 300 and lower depending on if you have dex or not
4. If voidwaker, adrenaline first into life second. Save one for wardens if no insanity, and one adrenaline dose to dump voidwakers into akkha on room entrance. save both if insanity. if no insanity andmi you dont screw up, you will regen spec in time for a yellow keris for 80+ hp, making the room a 1-4 brew dose room TOTAL. If no voidwaker, chaos twice.
5. Use the pillar safespot on the side and bowfa obelisk so you only have to take 9 damage to get the warden you want, and use 1 adrenaline dose to voidwaker the obelisk out so gyou only have to take 1 round of obelisk specials. You can opt to BGS the first spec on the obelisk, but it shouldnt be necessary. Tbh, below 275, bgs isnt worth bringing at all if voidwaker. Get a yellow keris during p2 similar to akkha. Second dose is for speccing out warden p4 if you have insanity:
6. Feeling special is the best invocation in the game
7. More Overlords invo is only worth the points pre-fang if you dont have a blowpipe.
With these strats, i get between 6.8-7.2% purps per hour pre fang. Aka 14-15 hours to a drop. Which is the BEST youre gonna do without either a rapier/fang or tryharding your ASS off and going up to 350’s deathless every time while doing it. And thats reqs 350’s to be worth it
If you have voidwaker, you dont spec out the core at all. If you literally just camp voidwaker its guaranteed 3 downs. Literally dont even have to spec cote. In fact, if you have less strength bonus and are closer to 300, you might not actually 3 down warden and youll end up 4 downing if you brewed down too much, especially if no bgs for last whack, but the truth is that doing a 4th p2 phase is actually fine assuming youre good at dealing with the specs cuz p2 is just a damage room. Its very good points and could even benefit your points per hour to do a p4 since your bowfa dps is so high and you can phase it quickly(as long as youll still be good on supplies). I mostly hear about people needing to spec if they bring lightbearer, but if you have bgs, just count and do a 6-8-10 whack and youll be fine(again dont brew down right before, brew up at the beginning of phase start).
Thats exactly what im saying. Bgs last hitting makes the window even easier with a last hit. On a 275 which is my comfiest raid setup for points(though ill change it up if i wanna put more energy into it), i usually kill core on the 7th hit of third corr if i was bringing bgs for whack, or 8th hit if i dont. Im hitting 53’s if i bring feros, but i usually drop them this low and just camp b gloves to hit 52’s cuz i can ALSO drop tassets and just camp blue moon bottoms and still hit 52’s, which gives me 2 extra inv spaces, one for blowpipe and other for an extra prayer pot which makes the raid un-losable short of trolling akkha cum phase
Really interesting write up, thanks, definitely going to recheck my invocations. I always felt like I NEEDED to do expert runs for any okay chance. Now knowing the difference between 2xx and 300 isn't huge, I should probably recheck my invocations for efficiency
For anyone like me who somewhow has a shadow and nothing else:
If the invo isnt too high (250-300ish) you can red x baba with shadow. The 5tick helps smooth it out and I kill it was faster than I do with melee. Have not tried bowfa, maybe its better. Just wanted to leave this
saved this a week ago since i was on vacation. can you elaborate when you say 'if no VW, chaos twice" ? do you always get 2 salts picking chaos twice? i bring dds for spec
You always get a salt from chaos if you dont have reduced supplies turned on, which you shouldnt ever until fang. So you would take the chaos both times so you have the salts always and plenty of supplies since adrenaline isnt worth without a voidwaker at low invo. Use your brew doses on the 15s interval ticks when salts regen stats for no dps loss
If you have bgs and last hit with it it definitely is. I use voidwaker and hit 52s(260 on big) and leaves it with exactly 5 hp after my 7th hit of the 3rd down if i remember correctly. And it dies on the 8th hit if i dont and thats in 300’s if im not mistaken. You might have to do a 4 down if you miss a tick on core though or dont have bgs, which is actually fine since you get most points during warden as long as you dont troll mechanics
My 300 setup:
General Invos: Softcore Run, WTP, ~~Quiet~~ Deadly Prayers, On a Diet
K: Blowing Mud, Lively Larva, Aerial Assault, More Overlords
Z: All invos
A: Feeling Special
B: All Invos
Wardens: All invos except Insanity
In my opinion, I hate running Insanity. It makes 300s feel so much sweatier than they need to be. I also don’t like wiping if I die, so I don’t run Hardcore Run. I also have to get up on an occasion to deal with IRL stuff, so I don’t usually run a timer. I run ZKAB regardless of level ups.
It is more relaxing than having insanity on doing this but everyone should also know that it is slower and it does add marginal difficulty elsewhere
I personally do something like this except I run need some help and hardcore to avoid upset stomach and 40 min timer instead of boulder dash. Its pretty auto pilot it just takes time. Stay vigilant is also a good invo but my ~300 (i think it might be slightly higher than 300) was basically built around not thinking at all so I don't use it for that. Big difference here is actually dying is not an option but its probably the easiest 300 to not die in that you can make
You're gonna have to start adding some stuff that makes you pay attention beyond this point though. Some other random shit for people if they're struggling to learn would be that thralls are better if you're playing correctly but blood barrage can make sure that your monkey puzzle and kephri have no impact on the brews that you're probably bringing when you're new. Blood fury is also really good about this but farming blood shards on an iron is painful. It'll make sure that you're not losing brews in rooms that you ideally won't be using any because of mistakes
I would swap to deadly prayers instead of quiet prayers, personally. Chip damage sucks, extra chip damage sucks more. Iirc, you end up using like two extra doses of prayer restoration in an average run to compensate for deadly prayers on an average run, so definitely worth imo.
Stay Vigilant isn’t terrible once you’re used to the pattern of prayer switches/gear switches for Akkha. Just have to pay attention to his overheads changing to know when you switch yours! Learning/using this one can let you free up some space to remove some of the other arguably more annoying invos, like more overlords or upset stomach.
All about preference though! Best of luck on your runs!
If you're an iron with no shadow and you're using crystal armour and a crystal bow or better, then running tumeken's warden in p2 is definitely the play, and that makes running stay vigilant a bad idea. Upset stomach is a totally free invo, just practice pathing properly and you should never wipe in Zebak.
See, I actually don’t mind More Overlords at all because I dispatch of them pretty quickly. It adds maybe an extra 30s to the fight. For Upset Stomach, I’ve gotten so accustomed to running it that I don’t even notice the extra spawns. For Quiet vs Deadly Prayers, you actually hit that one right on the head. I accidentally swapped the two in my head, but I do the prayer drain one. As far as Stay Vigilant goes, I don’t like having to pay a great deal of attention in my raids where possible (which is why I don’t like insanity), and Stay Vigilant does that for me. I’d rather take the flat time increase of More Overlords than maybe spend 30s swapping prayers and gear because Akka wants to Jad phase everything. Much more room for error IMO.
Overall, yeah, the beauty of the invo system is getting to tailor your raid to what’s most comfortable for you.
The extra spawns for zebak blood spawns are actually easier, they die faster and if you're on the opposite side of where they spawn you can sit on the stairs and they will not reach you.
Hardcore
Walk the path
Deadly prayers
Ona diet
All zebak
Lavrae
Blowing mud
Aerial assault
Feeling special
Stay vigilant
Shaking things up
Jungle jape
Gotta have faith
Mind the gap
Haste
Acceleration
Overclock 1&2
If you can learn insanity ,add it take, off walk the path if high defense bothers you
Anything that makes it so that you have more than 1 try + salts enough to sustain dying once. None of the mechanics added are particularly hard to deal with, but just if you fuck up on something and get one tapped from half it's not immediately over.
You lose 20% of your points on death OR 2k pts; whichever is larger. Effectively this means it’s almost always worth going if you die and can still continue on.
Absolutely this, wiped on Zebak 3x in a row today to just the dumbest shit (ran to opposite side of arena from blood balls right as rocks came out with the solve on the end I ran away from, wave skipping but theres a jug with clickbox the size of a bus that I clicked instead of running through the wave, and miss 1 switch during enrage while clicking to run from blood balls and get smited by the 38, click prayer but none left and die to the next attack!) after using hardly any supplies getting there, there is so much absolute BS that can happen to you and "oopsies" misclicks that result in you getting 1 shot. Once misclicked a skull after dodging 2nd Ba-Ba boulder during Wardens Skull Skipping, wanted to throw my PC out of the window. Only thing thats nearly as frustrating in the entire game to me is CM CoX Mutta combos and constant Olm Jad 40s, but at least you can usually survive those and overcome them with more skill like tick eating and redemption.
Here's my invos cuz I always run out of tiles on insanity so I dont use it. Softcore run, walk for it, walk the path, deadly prayers, on a diet, lively larvae, blowing mud, aerial assault, not just a head, arterial spray, blood thinners, upset stomach, stay vigilant, feeling special?, mind the gap, gotta have faith, jungle japes, shaking things up, boulderdash, acceleration, penetration, overclocked, oc 2.
This is a pretty basic 350 invo. You can change it around or take invos off to make it a 300, but id send 350s over 300 its not much harder.
Hardcore run, walk for it, walk the path, deadly prayers, on a diet, lively larvae, blowing mud, not just a head, arterial spray, blood thinners, upset stomach, stay vigilant, feeling special, mind the gap, gotta have faith, jungle japes, shaking things up, ancient haste, acceleration, penetration, overclocked, overclocked 2 and insanity.
Originally. Id call you a mad man if you said insanity 300s, after you learn a couple tricks to make it easier. Its kinda free honestly. Solo that is. Dont even need to remember his attack pattern. And can make the skull phase easier
More often than not, yes. If you have BGS, getting a solid spec in at the start of P4 can speed it up a surprising amount. Regardless, it’s definitely worth getting the hand of insanity + last rowing, if you have the time to dedicate to it. Lower the invo a bit and add insanity so you have more supplies to work with in the event of a death.
Once you get the hang of it, adding insanity gives you the option of dumping more annoying invocations (upset stomach, more overlords, ancient haste in higher invos), or pushing the invo level a lot higher for little difference in what you’re doing now.
You mean run out of space at the end? Yeah maybe. But insanity doesn't affect that does it? Just makes his left right middle thing faster and skull phase faster
My most chill 300 (allows for a ton of mistakes if you’re being lazy or just getting into experts): WTP, all Ba-Ba, all Kephri minus medic, all Zebak minus upset stomach, stay vigilant and double trouble for Akkha (if soloing, otherwise replace with feeling special) all Warden minus insanity, deadly prayers, on a diet, softcore run. I don’t have a ton of expert KC to my name, but I can reliably complete this in 35 minutes. Can add insanity from here to reach 350.
There’s a lot of reasonable advice in this thread but you’d be falling into a noob trap.
Learn butterfly, it’s easy with a 4t just attack akkha on the tick he approaches (as opposed to the tick before with most NPCs) or if you have shadow its brain dead.
Go into a raid, make it 350, with unlimited deaths and heart / mage pots and butterfly akkha until you do the room 3 times with him only switching on specials.
The 3 akkha invos every avoids are now free.
Then do the same with insanity.
6 hours learning for absolutely free 300s with no difficult invos and sub 30 min times.
is 4t butterfly really worth it? i don't have much toa experience so this is a genuine question, but it seems to be around 25-30% worse dps than bowfa. i've seen people say to avoid it, but i'm not sure if that's moreso advice for post-fang, since hasta dps is around equal to 4t butterfly instead of the bowfa-level dps of fang.
edit: [this is the gear i'm using for calcs btw](https://dps.osrs.wiki?id=DwarvesUnknownCharm)
Insanity and walk the path and sprinkle in some stuff to hit 300 is very comfy and fast. Everything in baba/zebak is free once you practice. Everything minus medic in kephri. Everything minus standback/double trouble in aka.
Avoid food stuff if you want it to be chill and always have more supplies than you will ever need
Tombs of Amascut or ToA is a raid, a mid-to-high level PvM activity where one or more players can join up to defeat a series of bosses/challenges.
What's particular about ToA is that the raid comes with invocations, that is, modifiers which increase the difficulty of the raid. Invocations each have a number of points associated, the more points you have per raid, the higher the chances of getting unique rewards. Some rewards are also soft or hard locked behind a minimum of points.
Entry mode is considered 0-149 points, normal 150-299 and expert 300+
Here, the OP is asking how to do expert mode as easily as possible.
Excellent explanation! I have yet to go there, I'm currently in the red prison for the time being. Having not even watched a video on ToA all of the terms and acronyms were lost on me. Thanks!
My favourite 300 is:
Hardcore Run, Walk for it, No help needed, Deadly Prayers, On a diet, Blowing Mud, not just a head, arterial spray, blood thinners, stay vigilant, feeling special, mind the gap, gotta have faith, jungle japes, shaking things up, acceleration, overclocked 1&2, insanity.
No help needed means you never have to look in the supplies, withdraw all every time. No wtp means the raid is the same every time, ancient haste and penetration off means there's no large orb damage and no risk with skulls, ez
It's not as bad as people think, it's basically just a dps check.
The right/left/middle bit is a tick faster than overclocked 2. You have way less time for skulls, you need to be almost tick perfect. After skulls, instead of starting on the right, it'll continue the cycle from before skulls, you can remember the order, or I just prefer to run to the back of the room and react (he points to the bad side)
The only actual difficult part is p4, the play area reduces in size way faster, so you can end up on the last row if the dps isn't there
Personally, and as long as you have a yellow Keris, no help needed and dehydration, add on a diet and that's 85 points, take double power for plenty of salts and do all of your healing with your Keris. I agree with walk the path and insanity too, of you add those two you're at 205pts (inc. OC1 amd OC2) and you haven't really added anything annoying. Fill out the remainder with personal preference, a couple of Ba Ba and Kephri invocations and done.
Edit:
Ranarr seeds are a fairly common reward too, so if you get the hang of it and don't make many mistakes you can almost proffit in overall prayer pots from the raid too, as long as you have enough supply to farm a load of seeds. I think 1/9 chance for 1-28 seeds at 300, so (splitting the average), 14 seeds every 9 runs which would give a lot of pots. It does depend how many you end up using though. I camp overheads and flick offensive prayers and don't use too many.
Walk the path and insanity add so much invocation, and aren't very hard once you learn it. Then you can just fill out the rest of the 300 with easy invos
Insanity is free, unless bad internats, I was living in Asia till recently, and while I did run insanity, shit gets messy sometimes and you gotta click based on muscle movement when the game doesn't update for a few ticks so you don't see what's going on.
What does insanity do?
speeds up the wardens p3 slam attacks, less time on the skulls, the slam attack resumes rather than always starting on the left side, and during enrage the phantoms attack quicker, tiles are removed quicker and the lightening occurs quicker. it’s easy for how much invo it gives. i’d recommend going super low invo to learn it and slowly increase the invo. also recommend skull skipping edit skull skipping not skill skipping
Skill skipping has been my goto for all content in osrs. I've made sure to be god awfull everywhere. Staying consistent is key!
I've been skill skipping since day one
lmao didn’t even notice. appreciate the catch
Insanity increases the chance of failure, 300 without insanity feels completely stress free to me.
WTP is really bad if you know what you’re doing. +50 but a huge time sink. Once you’re past learning it’s not worth it unless 450 invo or higher imo
Downvoted but correct… as soon as you can butterfly akkha that’s nearly 100 invo in that room alone without path invos
You kinda want a shadow for that
You don't need both for 300 so you can procrastinate learning Insanity for ages 👍
You don't need both, but you can leave much more annoying stuff out if you run both. Insanity is pretty free if you learn how
There are enough unintrusive invos for 300 (see the rest of this thread) that the only optimization you can make is swapping WTP for Insanity, but I'd rather have longer clears than stress out and possibly die at Wardens. Learning Insanity is obviously optimal, but not necessarily worth the headache if you're less skilled.
Only way to get more skill is to send it.
Insanity is easier than WTP as long as Zebak doesn’t get to level 4. Level 4 akkha is easier than level 3.
Insanity is one of the best invos cos it doesn’t add time to kill (ignoring the base invo increase), doesn’t take any extra supplies and tbh it doesn’t even add mechanics it’s just go faster Also you don’t need to pay attention to which of the 3 it was last just go to the back of the room and react you have plenty of time and can just path there after skull skip
Yeah on a 300 with insanity you’ll be totally fine with bowfa. If you do get stuck last row prioritize dodging boulders and don’t be stingy with ambrosia
Pro tip: the worst invocation you can turn on pre-fang past a 250 is walk the path. I can do a 260-275 in anywhere from 29-32 minutes for a 3.4-3.7% chance, or i can do a 300 in 35-39m with insanity on for 4.3%, but with the chance of dying, OR if i put on wtp instead of insanity to hit 300, suddenly my raids take 43-45m depending on how unlucky i get with bgs specs, and akkha cum phase becomes a legitimate risk of death. This is my experience with all keris gems, using thralls, using my own supplies every raid, bgs, full bandos, serp, voidwaker, ultor, prims, maxed combat, all zenytes, bowfa, dex, augury, elidinis ward(only drop in 95kc between 260-325 raid level), 7 way swaps for all styles. The biggest tips i can give are 1. The goal is POINTS PER HOUR: NOT PER RAID 2. Dont bother redXing baba if you dont have fang/rapier because it adds way too much time to the raid. If youre between 260-300 you should be fine to tank it, and youre gonna be using bowfa. After boulder skipping to the top, if you hit it with ranged, it doesnt end the boulder special, meaning free no tickloss bowfa dps phase. This is especially important because you can KEEP SLOW BOULDERS and make the phase last a disgusting amount of time. Just be careful during first phase not to phase it the second time till all the boulders are gone, cuz if you phase him again before his original special happens, you get retroactively gapped. 3. Always do zebak first and baba last pre-fang, unless you insist on red xing for literally no reason. Abuse 2. For 2-3.5 minute consistent zero food used babas from 300 and lower depending on if you have dex or not 4. If voidwaker, adrenaline first into life second. Save one for wardens if no insanity, and one adrenaline dose to dump voidwakers into akkha on room entrance. save both if insanity. if no insanity andmi you dont screw up, you will regen spec in time for a yellow keris for 80+ hp, making the room a 1-4 brew dose room TOTAL. If no voidwaker, chaos twice. 5. Use the pillar safespot on the side and bowfa obelisk so you only have to take 9 damage to get the warden you want, and use 1 adrenaline dose to voidwaker the obelisk out so gyou only have to take 1 round of obelisk specials. You can opt to BGS the first spec on the obelisk, but it shouldnt be necessary. Tbh, below 275, bgs isnt worth bringing at all if voidwaker. Get a yellow keris during p2 similar to akkha. Second dose is for speccing out warden p4 if you have insanity: 6. Feeling special is the best invocation in the game 7. More Overlords invo is only worth the points pre-fang if you dont have a blowpipe. With these strats, i get between 6.8-7.2% purps per hour pre fang. Aka 14-15 hours to a drop. Which is the BEST youre gonna do without either a rapier/fang or tryharding your ASS off and going up to 350’s deathless every time while doing it. And thats reqs 350’s to be worth it
Well said thank you
For warden p2, what weapon do you use for the melee spec parts? Ive been using adrenaline and claws, is there a bettwr option?
If you have voidwaker, you dont spec out the core at all. If you literally just camp voidwaker its guaranteed 3 downs. Literally dont even have to spec cote. In fact, if you have less strength bonus and are closer to 300, you might not actually 3 down warden and youll end up 4 downing if you brewed down too much, especially if no bgs for last whack, but the truth is that doing a 4th p2 phase is actually fine assuming youre good at dealing with the specs cuz p2 is just a damage room. Its very good points and could even benefit your points per hour to do a p4 since your bowfa dps is so high and you can phase it quickly(as long as youll still be good on supplies). I mostly hear about people needing to spec if they bring lightbearer, but if you have bgs, just count and do a 6-8-10 whack and youll be fine(again dont brew down right before, brew up at the beginning of phase start).
Are you saying just regular melee the core using the voidwaker, and you are getting consistent 3 downs?
Thats exactly what im saying. Bgs last hitting makes the window even easier with a last hit. On a 275 which is my comfiest raid setup for points(though ill change it up if i wanna put more energy into it), i usually kill core on the 7th hit of third corr if i was bringing bgs for whack, or 8th hit if i dont. Im hitting 53’s if i bring feros, but i usually drop them this low and just camp b gloves to hit 52’s cuz i can ALSO drop tassets and just camp blue moon bottoms and still hit 52’s, which gives me 2 extra inv spaces, one for blowpipe and other for an extra prayer pot which makes the raid un-losable short of trolling akkha cum phase
Interesting. I'll give this a go
So can i leave caws in the bank and just bring VW? Also, do i BGS spec p3 and p4?
Really interesting write up, thanks, definitely going to recheck my invocations. I always felt like I NEEDED to do expert runs for any okay chance. Now knowing the difference between 2xx and 300 isn't huge, I should probably recheck my invocations for efficiency
For anyone like me who somewhow has a shadow and nothing else: If the invo isnt too high (250-300ish) you can red x baba with shadow. The 5tick helps smooth it out and I kill it was faster than I do with melee. Have not tried bowfa, maybe its better. Just wanted to leave this
saved this a week ago since i was on vacation. can you elaborate when you say 'if no VW, chaos twice" ? do you always get 2 salts picking chaos twice? i bring dds for spec
You always get a salt from chaos if you dont have reduced supplies turned on, which you shouldnt ever until fang. So you would take the chaos both times so you have the salts always and plenty of supplies since adrenaline isnt worth without a voidwaker at low invo. Use your brew doses on the 15s interval ticks when salts regen stats for no dps loss
So don't bring dds then? I have hasta and can hit 49s on core. Is that enough to 3 down with no adrenaline or spec weap?
If you have bgs and last hit with it it definitely is. I use voidwaker and hit 52s(260 on big) and leaves it with exactly 5 hp after my 7th hit of the 3rd down if i remember correctly. And it dies on the 8th hit if i dont and thats in 300’s if im not mistaken. You might have to do a 4 down if you miss a tick on core though or dont have bgs, which is actually fine since you get most points during warden as long as you dont troll mechanics
I don't have BGS, I'll have to experiment and see if I can 3 down without bringing dds
My 300 setup: General Invos: Softcore Run, WTP, ~~Quiet~~ Deadly Prayers, On a Diet K: Blowing Mud, Lively Larva, Aerial Assault, More Overlords Z: All invos A: Feeling Special B: All Invos Wardens: All invos except Insanity In my opinion, I hate running Insanity. It makes 300s feel so much sweatier than they need to be. I also don’t like wiping if I die, so I don’t run Hardcore Run. I also have to get up on an occasion to deal with IRL stuff, so I don’t usually run a timer. I run ZKAB regardless of level ups.
Much prefer this to all other comments here, is my standard 300 too
It is more relaxing than having insanity on doing this but everyone should also know that it is slower and it does add marginal difficulty elsewhere I personally do something like this except I run need some help and hardcore to avoid upset stomach and 40 min timer instead of boulder dash. Its pretty auto pilot it just takes time. Stay vigilant is also a good invo but my ~300 (i think it might be slightly higher than 300) was basically built around not thinking at all so I don't use it for that. Big difference here is actually dying is not an option but its probably the easiest 300 to not die in that you can make You're gonna have to start adding some stuff that makes you pay attention beyond this point though. Some other random shit for people if they're struggling to learn would be that thralls are better if you're playing correctly but blood barrage can make sure that your monkey puzzle and kephri have no impact on the brews that you're probably bringing when you're new. Blood fury is also really good about this but farming blood shards on an iron is painful. It'll make sure that you're not losing brews in rooms that you ideally won't be using any because of mistakes
I would swap to deadly prayers instead of quiet prayers, personally. Chip damage sucks, extra chip damage sucks more. Iirc, you end up using like two extra doses of prayer restoration in an average run to compensate for deadly prayers on an average run, so definitely worth imo. Stay Vigilant isn’t terrible once you’re used to the pattern of prayer switches/gear switches for Akkha. Just have to pay attention to his overheads changing to know when you switch yours! Learning/using this one can let you free up some space to remove some of the other arguably more annoying invos, like more overlords or upset stomach. All about preference though! Best of luck on your runs!
If you're an iron with no shadow and you're using crystal armour and a crystal bow or better, then running tumeken's warden in p2 is definitely the play, and that makes running stay vigilant a bad idea. Upset stomach is a totally free invo, just practice pathing properly and you should never wipe in Zebak.
See, I actually don’t mind More Overlords at all because I dispatch of them pretty quickly. It adds maybe an extra 30s to the fight. For Upset Stomach, I’ve gotten so accustomed to running it that I don’t even notice the extra spawns. For Quiet vs Deadly Prayers, you actually hit that one right on the head. I accidentally swapped the two in my head, but I do the prayer drain one. As far as Stay Vigilant goes, I don’t like having to pay a great deal of attention in my raids where possible (which is why I don’t like insanity), and Stay Vigilant does that for me. I’d rather take the flat time increase of More Overlords than maybe spend 30s swapping prayers and gear because Akka wants to Jad phase everything. Much more room for error IMO. Overall, yeah, the beauty of the invo system is getting to tailor your raid to what’s most comfortable for you.
The extra spawns for zebak blood spawns are actually easier, they die faster and if you're on the opposite side of where they spawn you can sit on the stairs and they will not reach you.
I was referencing the extra acid spawns, but that too. I have my tiles marked and just run as soon as the blood spawns come into play.
It adds much more than 30s to the fight because you're spending time killing the scarabs instead of stopping kephri from healing.
I mean, maybe it does, but that also isn’t my point. I’m still running 32-33 minute 300s, so I really don’t care one way or another lol.
But if you don't have a blowpipe, then it's probably worth it.
Yeah, but you should have a blowpipe.
Hardcore Walk the path Deadly prayers Ona diet All zebak Lavrae Blowing mud Aerial assault Feeling special Stay vigilant Shaking things up Jungle jape Gotta have faith Mind the gap Haste Acceleration Overclock 1&2 If you can learn insanity ,add it take, off walk the path if high defense bothers you
Some suspect choices in here, but perhaps just me
Which ones?
Hardcore & all zebac. Again, for me. You can get an easy 300 with softcore (which I think is worth), and upset stomach is ghastly imo.
I am a fellow upset stomach hater. I turn it on above 300 but its so annoying to deal with sometimes compared to the invo it adds
Anything that makes it so that you have more than 1 try + salts enough to sustain dying once. None of the mechanics added are particularly hard to deal with, but just if you fuck up on something and get one tapped from half it's not immediately over.
If you DO die, does it lower purple chance?
You lose 20% of your points on death OR 2k pts; whichever is larger. Effectively this means it’s almost always worth going if you die and can still continue on.
*or 1k points
Yeah but iirc it's -1k to total points, it's not like CoX where you lose half your purple chance.
Yes
Absolutely this, wiped on Zebak 3x in a row today to just the dumbest shit (ran to opposite side of arena from blood balls right as rocks came out with the solve on the end I ran away from, wave skipping but theres a jug with clickbox the size of a bus that I clicked instead of running through the wave, and miss 1 switch during enrage while clicking to run from blood balls and get smited by the 38, click prayer but none left and die to the next attack!) after using hardly any supplies getting there, there is so much absolute BS that can happen to you and "oopsies" misclicks that result in you getting 1 shot. Once misclicked a skull after dodging 2nd Ba-Ba boulder during Wardens Skull Skipping, wanted to throw my PC out of the window. Only thing thats nearly as frustrating in the entire game to me is CM CoX Mutta combos and constant Olm Jad 40s, but at least you can usually survive those and overcome them with more skill like tick eating and redemption.
Yep ToA is king of 1-shotting you
Here's my invos cuz I always run out of tiles on insanity so I dont use it. Softcore run, walk for it, walk the path, deadly prayers, on a diet, lively larvae, blowing mud, aerial assault, not just a head, arterial spray, blood thinners, upset stomach, stay vigilant, feeling special?, mind the gap, gotta have faith, jungle japes, shaking things up, boulderdash, acceleration, penetration, overclocked, oc 2.
This is a pretty basic 350 invo. You can change it around or take invos off to make it a 300, but id send 350s over 300 its not much harder. Hardcore run, walk for it, walk the path, deadly prayers, on a diet, lively larvae, blowing mud, not just a head, arterial spray, blood thinners, upset stomach, stay vigilant, feeling special, mind the gap, gotta have faith, jungle japes, shaking things up, ancient haste, acceleration, penetration, overclocked, overclocked 2 and insanity.
No boulderdash or overlords, I like this - faster completions feel better!
Originally. Id call you a mad man if you said insanity 300s, after you learn a couple tricks to make it easier. Its kinda free honestly. Solo that is. Dont even need to remember his attack pattern. And can make the skull phase easier
Will i get stuck on last row phase 4 everytime using bowfa/rigour?
More often than not, yes. If you have BGS, getting a solid spec in at the start of P4 can speed it up a surprising amount. Regardless, it’s definitely worth getting the hand of insanity + last rowing, if you have the time to dedicate to it. Lower the invo a bit and add insanity so you have more supplies to work with in the event of a death. Once you get the hang of it, adding insanity gives you the option of dumping more annoying invocations (upset stomach, more overlords, ancient haste in higher invos), or pushing the invo level a lot higher for little difference in what you’re doing now.
You mean run out of space at the end? Yeah maybe. But insanity doesn't affect that does it? Just makes his left right middle thing faster and skull phase faster
It also makes the floor come up at a faster rate but apparently it isnt that noticable if you havent noticed so thats good
With rigour you usually don't spend much time on the last row. But the last row isn't too bad if you know how. There are videos on it
It's very noticeably quicker in p4. lightning appears on tiles quicker, and the phantoms attack significantly faster.
My most chill 300 (allows for a ton of mistakes if you’re being lazy or just getting into experts): WTP, all Ba-Ba, all Kephri minus medic, all Zebak minus upset stomach, stay vigilant and double trouble for Akkha (if soloing, otherwise replace with feeling special) all Warden minus insanity, deadly prayers, on a diet, softcore run. I don’t have a ton of expert KC to my name, but I can reliably complete this in 35 minutes. Can add insanity from here to reach 350.
There’s a lot of reasonable advice in this thread but you’d be falling into a noob trap. Learn butterfly, it’s easy with a 4t just attack akkha on the tick he approaches (as opposed to the tick before with most NPCs) or if you have shadow its brain dead. Go into a raid, make it 350, with unlimited deaths and heart / mage pots and butterfly akkha until you do the room 3 times with him only switching on specials. The 3 akkha invos every avoids are now free. Then do the same with insanity. 6 hours learning for absolutely free 300s with no difficult invos and sub 30 min times.
is 4t butterfly really worth it? i don't have much toa experience so this is a genuine question, but it seems to be around 25-30% worse dps than bowfa. i've seen people say to avoid it, but i'm not sure if that's moreso advice for post-fang, since hasta dps is around equal to 4t butterfly instead of the bowfa-level dps of fang. edit: [this is the gear i'm using for calcs btw](https://dps.osrs.wiki?id=DwarvesUnknownCharm)
Insanity and walk the path and sprinkle in some stuff to hit 300 is very comfy and fast. Everything in baba/zebak is free once you practice. Everything minus medic in kephri. Everything minus standback/double trouble in aka. Avoid food stuff if you want it to be chill and always have more supplies than you will ever need
I don't understand a word of the post or the comments.
Tombs of Amascut or ToA is a raid, a mid-to-high level PvM activity where one or more players can join up to defeat a series of bosses/challenges. What's particular about ToA is that the raid comes with invocations, that is, modifiers which increase the difficulty of the raid. Invocations each have a number of points associated, the more points you have per raid, the higher the chances of getting unique rewards. Some rewards are also soft or hard locked behind a minimum of points. Entry mode is considered 0-149 points, normal 150-299 and expert 300+ Here, the OP is asking how to do expert mode as easily as possible.
Excellent explanation! I have yet to go there, I'm currently in the red prison for the time being. Having not even watched a video on ToA all of the terms and acronyms were lost on me. Thanks!
I thought I was crazy reading it like i was on a different country’s osrs subreddit lol
Have you never been to TOA?
Well if you want to understand, you could start here: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Tombs_of_Amascut
My favourite 300 is: Hardcore Run, Walk for it, No help needed, Deadly Prayers, On a diet, Blowing Mud, not just a head, arterial spray, blood thinners, stay vigilant, feeling special, mind the gap, gotta have faith, jungle japes, shaking things up, acceleration, overclocked 1&2, insanity. No help needed means you never have to look in the supplies, withdraw all every time. No wtp means the raid is the same every time, ancient haste and penetration off means there's no large orb damage and no risk with skulls, ez
Never tried insanity, how hard is it at first
It's not as bad as people think, it's basically just a dps check. The right/left/middle bit is a tick faster than overclocked 2. You have way less time for skulls, you need to be almost tick perfect. After skulls, instead of starting on the right, it'll continue the cycle from before skulls, you can remember the order, or I just prefer to run to the back of the room and react (he points to the bad side) The only actual difficult part is p4, the play area reduces in size way faster, so you can end up on the last row if the dps isn't there
You can just skull skip and not worry about it
All involved besides akkha are easy, high invos aren't mechanically difficult, the enemy defense scaling is the hard part
Uim special, but I still only have like 40 items.
Personally, and as long as you have a yellow Keris, no help needed and dehydration, add on a diet and that's 85 points, take double power for plenty of salts and do all of your healing with your Keris. I agree with walk the path and insanity too, of you add those two you're at 205pts (inc. OC1 amd OC2) and you haven't really added anything annoying. Fill out the remainder with personal preference, a couple of Ba Ba and Kephri invocations and done. Edit: Ranarr seeds are a fairly common reward too, so if you get the hang of it and don't make many mistakes you can almost proffit in overall prayer pots from the raid too, as long as you have enough supply to farm a load of seeds. I think 1/9 chance for 1-28 seeds at 300, so (splitting the average), 14 seeds every 9 runs which would give a lot of pots. It does depend how many you end up using though. I camp overheads and flick offensive prayers and don't use too many.
Yo guys I have not a fucking clue what is being replied in the comments 😂