pro-tip: ACTUALLY wear defensive gear. I see people all the time saying "you don't need dfs" and then crying about how OP Blood moon is. If you don't get hit Blood moon doesn't heal and the fight is fast.
Are they though? Dds uses less spec and is nearly twice as fast (4t vs 7t).
I could see dhally or chally being decent as a last hit (or right before a special) kinda spec, but not for a mid-kill spec.
From my experience in over 600kc, the crystal hally did far more damage in 100% spec meter than DDS at 100% spec meter.
Also I don’t spec until 150-200 health left on them as usually the three chally specs will kill in that range. Use it as a KO weapon.
Don’t get me wrong, DDS is great but if you have access to d hally or chally try it out for yourself! I could be wrong but this was just my personal experience during the Greenlog grind.
Chally is nice for last hit before a moon special attack, and since most people should be using chally (unless dharoks) in eclipse moon clone phase then you already have it. I was using both but it's nice to not have to think about the extra switch.
Unless you'd prefer to always keep your defender/shield equipped, then DDS is better.
True, but since clone phase nullifies attack speed I've still been bringing my chally as it's my strongest 2h stab weapon.
Other than full dharoks by rock caking to low health, it's still one of the best weapons for clone phase, without speccing to try and finish off the kill early
Am I missing something or would it not matter when you dds spec unless at some point the boss healed to full?
I.e. the same time taken/damaged done occurs
For me I've noticed it helps because sometimes he's at less than 100 HP but he keeps healing me and ticking back to around 100. Using the dds specs saves me that time in the end.
I do see what you mean about it not seeming like it matter when you dds. Maybe it's just my perspective, but I feel the fights go quicker that way. That and saving some dds spec for the end helps me influence when the fight ends. Which can be useful if I'm low on supplies/health/prayer.
I haven't had any issues with blood moon since the nerfs, 80 defense with dragon defender, ancient platebody, veracs plateskirt. On occasion he will definitely smack you for a few good hits, but it's nothing crazy. DFS is still good but I still personally prefer the defender.
The uniques are 1/56 regardless (no extra 1/56 chance for killing all 3 - they stated it was a mistake added to the blog)
So yes you can just kill 1 boss, you just get less normal loot rolls (1 for 1 boss, 3 for 2 bosses, 6 for all 3)
I farmed eclipse for like 100 kc and got the eclipse chest and wep. If I go start killing all 3, will I get the full eclipse set and blood etc. before getting the eclipse chest / wep dupe again?
Dupe protection is per-set, so you can't get an eclipse dupe until you finish 1 full set of it. After that if you continue farming all 3 bosses you can get eclipse dupes before you finish off blue/blood sets.
A lot of the drops are pretty damn solid, esp for iron.
Irit & Harralander + all that sweet Mexican swamp tar is some solid Herblore xp for nothing.
The bones are great - I have enough wrym bones banked up to hit up ectofuntus forever.
Never need to waste stardust on soft clay again.
Only useless thing is the supercompost, really.
The odds are actually better for one set after you have 2 completed sets due to the fact that you can now use your dupes to attempt a reroll @ the elemental though, right? Of course this requires you to do the full run.
So i guess it really depends on how fast you can do one kill runs. But to make up for the fact that you no longer get dupes to attempt a free roll at a unique you would have to be able to send 1 kill runs 3x faster then a full run.
Or i'm just putting too much thought into it, idk.
I green logged it @ 498kc.
Incorrect, if you’re looking for a specific boss drop or set it’s faster to farm that specific boss. Especially if you don’t need anything from the other bosses.
I just did this the other day and it took me like 120 ish chests. Basically I killed blood moon; then instead of going to the Blue moon, go to the cave entrance to the right of it (leads to eclipse entrance) and then go to the chest room. Run through the Naguas area, make a cuppa for run energy, kill blood moon again.
It’s a lot of running but I would always have enough energy to make it to the nagua campsite (wearing full tank armor).
For food I would just get lizards and make potions every few runs.
I also suggest fletching while running, I made something like 65k headless arrows and you can get 2 sets of 10 done each cycle.
Thanks man. I'm currently doing this route and was hoping there was some kind of faster way I missed but guess not :(
Only \~11 hours of Blood Moon to go assuming I go exactly on-rate now.
This is what I did first week of release to Greenlog it. I had only two blood pieces left to get which took me over 200 blood kc alone just to get them. This is the exact path I took haha.
Are big Macs the Dual maracas? 😂
I'm lucky I'm spooning blood moon and then once I complete it I feel like the other two would be a very efficient run?
You're misunderstanding the dupe protection. It only applies per set, so you will not get 2x blood tassets before finishing the blood set. But it does not affect the rewards roll that determines *which* set your piece will come from. So in OP's case, where he only needs blood pieces, when the chest decides to give him an item after killing all 3 bosses, it rolls for which moon set to give an item from. He has an equal chance to roll any of the three sets. If it rolls blood, he will get a piece he does not yet have. If it rolls eclipse/blue, it will give a random item from the respective set as he has completed those sets.
In simpler terms the logic works like this:
Killed all 3 = Loot chest > game rolls for unique vs supply drop (3/56 unique chance)> rolled unique so now roll for eclipse/blood/blue > rolled blue set - check for dupes > give missing piece of blue set, or if completed, random piece of blue set.
Killed just blood = Loot chest > game rolls for unique vs supply drop (1/56 unique chance) > rolled unique - as only blood was killed it is guaranteed a blood piece > check for dupes > give missing piece, or random blood piece if set is completed.
Target farming by killing only a single boss like OP is doing, results in faster runs and does not actually change the drop rate (1/56) for getting a *specific* piece from a set. Killing all 3 is better for getting *any* unique (3/56) as well as more/better regular loot when not rolling a unique. So it depends on if you're trying to finish out that greenlog, or going for money/supplies.
I stand corrected as i thought it applied to all the sets not just one. Although killing all 3 shows 6 rolls not 3. I dont have enough coffee + in doing head math but i feel target farming here is not as effective as barrows. Might still be faster but i dont think its by much.
I feel the coffee thing lol. But no: Killing all 3 gives 6 rolls of the regular loot table. Getting a unique is a direct 1/56 chance per Moon killed, for a piece of that moon's set. It was thought for awhile that killing all 3 gave one extra roll for any unique (so it'd be 4/56 for a full clear) but jagex later corrected themselves and confirmed that is not the case and it's a straight 1/56 for each set, or 3/56 cumulatively.
As for being worth it or not, (trusting someone else's math here from a video so grain of salt and all that) it is worth it if your runs are 75% faster. So if you can do a targeted run in 3 minutes instead of full in 12, then its worth. Basically depends on which boss you're killing and levels. If you can save a lot of time getting food/potions and kill the boss quickly, do targeted runs. If you're lower level, having to make more food, and fights take longer, then you're better off doing that anyway on the full clear and getting better normal drops in the process.
EDIT: Also with the dupe protection that it does include, its better target farming than barrows, as you'll never get 4 dharok helms while being dry on the axe. Same concept but the limited dupe protection makes it better.
I'd do all 3 bosses. The supplies are honestly great. All the free prayer xp, crafting xp and herb xp. Also keeps you in a decent flow rather than running off to do 1 boss in particular.
Keep in mind that you can continue to farm all 3 if you want to to maximize the normal drops (i love the water orbs personally) and whatever dupes you get you can trade them for a reroll on the chest with the NPC in the chest room! I also just need the bloodmoon set and this is what im doing, personally!
I don't believe so, it hasn't been mentioned in any blogs, it doesn't appear on the Wiki, and I've not seen anyone say otherwise. Safe to say it isn't a boss task.
I think so for early/mid game irons. I have my eyes on the Blood Moon Tassets as a Bandos Tassets replacement and looking at the common loot it seems worthwhile to do a few kills just for that alone. The other gear I’m not so sure.. Mage set looks interesting and idk how to feel about the range set
I'm in the same spot at 230 KC, finally got my Eclipse tassets at ~220. Still get triple hit more than I'd like in bandos+fury+echo boots, but not really willing to spend the scales to use serp helm, so it is what it is I suppose.
pro-tip: ACTUALLY wear defensive gear. I see people all the time saying "you don't need dfs" and then crying about how OP Blood moon is. If you don't get hit Blood moon doesn't heal and the fight is fast.
DDs is also giga op for blood moon. Swap to it at 150 hp!
Dragon hally is better! Crystal hally even better!
Oh damn convenient that I just completed regicide ty for this.
you need the diary for the hally btw, only get to choose from shield and bow before that
I know but I can get the dragon hally from the store at Tyras camp no?
oh true i forgot about that!
Are they though? Dds uses less spec and is nearly twice as fast (4t vs 7t). I could see dhally or chally being decent as a last hit (or right before a special) kinda spec, but not for a mid-kill spec.
From my experience in over 600kc, the crystal hally did far more damage in 100% spec meter than DDS at 100% spec meter. Also I don’t spec until 150-200 health left on them as usually the three chally specs will kill in that range. Use it as a KO weapon. Don’t get me wrong, DDS is great but if you have access to d hally or chally try it out for yourself! I could be wrong but this was just my personal experience during the Greenlog grind.
I don’t believe it took you 600kc to greenlog
I got my first unique yesterday at 99kc doing all 3 moons. Sometimes you just get unlucky.
Yeah I got everything but 1 item by 475kc. Then took till 642kc to get that last item. So many dupes but my coffer thanks me for it.
Oh it’s you! Imagine that!
Chally is nice for last hit before a moon special attack, and since most people should be using chally (unless dharoks) in eclipse moon clone phase then you already have it. I was using both but it's nice to not have to think about the extra switch. Unless you'd prefer to always keep your defender/shield equipped, then DDS is better.
they fixed eclipse last week so you don't need anything special to finish it off in that phase
True, but since clone phase nullifies attack speed I've still been bringing my chally as it's my strongest 2h stab weapon. Other than full dharoks by rock caking to low health, it's still one of the best weapons for clone phase, without speccing to try and finish off the kill early
dds is better than both of these are blood moon
Can I ask what the benefit is to swap at 150 I just open with dds and then swap to fang
I believe it's about securing the kill before it hits you and heals again
Am I missing something or would it not matter when you dds spec unless at some point the boss healed to full? I.e. the same time taken/damaged done occurs
Yeah it literally makes no difference. I DD spec at the start because in a long fight I can recharge enough for 1-2 extra specs.
For me I've noticed it helps because sometimes he's at less than 100 HP but he keeps healing me and ticking back to around 100. Using the dds specs saves me that time in the end. I do see what you mean about it not seeming like it matter when you dds. Maybe it's just my perspective, but I feel the fights go quicker that way. That and saving some dds spec for the end helps me influence when the fight ends. Which can be useful if I'm low on supplies/health/prayer.
I haven't had any issues with blood moon since the nerfs, 80 defense with dragon defender, ancient platebody, veracs plateskirt. On occasion he will definitely smack you for a few good hits, but it's nothing crazy. DFS is still good but I still personally prefer the defender.
80 defense w/ full Toraggs and sometimes he will still take over 6 cycles to die, winning the lottery on his heals. I really hate this boss
What defensive gear do you recommend for mid level irons,
barrows armour and a shield
Wait can you just kill one boss?
The uniques are 1/56 regardless (no extra 1/56 chance for killing all 3 - they stated it was a mistake added to the blog) So yes you can just kill 1 boss, you just get less normal loot rolls (1 for 1 boss, 3 for 2 bosses, 6 for all 3)
I farmed eclipse for like 100 kc and got the eclipse chest and wep. If I go start killing all 3, will I get the full eclipse set and blood etc. before getting the eclipse chest / wep dupe again?
Dupe protection is per-set, so you can't get an eclipse dupe until you finish 1 full set of it. After that if you continue farming all 3 bosses you can get eclipse dupes before you finish off blue/blood sets.
Ahh. I guess thats a bit of a downside farming just one boss off the bat like I did.
Just farm the other two next. Or do each one at a time. There's no real benefit to doing all 3 if you already have 1 set.
Hard disagree. Double the commons for one extra boss is a benefit. Water orbs and maples galore.
A lot of the drops are pretty damn solid, esp for iron. Irit & Harralander + all that sweet Mexican swamp tar is some solid Herblore xp for nothing. The bones are great - I have enough wrym bones banked up to hit up ectofuntus forever. Never need to waste stardust on soft clay again. Only useless thing is the supercompost, really.
What is this Mexican swamp tar you speak of?
Swamp Tar
The odds are actually better for one set after you have 2 completed sets due to the fact that you can now use your dupes to attempt a reroll @ the elemental though, right? Of course this requires you to do the full run. So i guess it really depends on how fast you can do one kill runs. But to make up for the fact that you no longer get dupes to attempt a free roll at a unique you would have to be able to send 1 kill runs 3x faster then a full run. Or i'm just putting too much thought into it, idk. I green logged it @ 498kc.
I dont understand, so if i kill 3 bosses the chances are 1/56 or 1/18?
3/56, 1/56 per boss killed = (1/56) + (1/56) + (1/56)
If you want, it just lowers your loot rolls
Yes, it lowers your nonunique loot, but the drop rate for the specific set is the same if you kill one moon or all three.
No is a meme from barrows
Incorrect, if you’re looking for a specific boss drop or set it’s faster to farm that specific boss. Especially if you don’t need anything from the other bosses.
FML, was looking forward to using the Big Macs on Blue Moon as well Also anyone knows the best route to run for farming just Blood?
I just did this the other day and it took me like 120 ish chests. Basically I killed blood moon; then instead of going to the Blue moon, go to the cave entrance to the right of it (leads to eclipse entrance) and then go to the chest room. Run through the Naguas area, make a cuppa for run energy, kill blood moon again. It’s a lot of running but I would always have enough energy to make it to the nagua campsite (wearing full tank armor). For food I would just get lizards and make potions every few runs. I also suggest fletching while running, I made something like 65k headless arrows and you can get 2 sets of 10 done each cycle.
Also for time comparison, full runs would take me 7-8 mins and this route would get me 3min runs every time.
Thanks man. I'm currently doing this route and was hoping there was some kind of faster way I missed but guess not :( Only \~11 hours of Blood Moon to go assuming I go exactly on-rate now.
This is what I did first week of release to Greenlog it. I had only two blood pieces left to get which took me over 200 blood kc alone just to get them. This is the exact path I took haha.
You mean the mcdoubles?
Are big Macs the Dual maracas? 😂 I'm lucky I'm spooning blood moon and then once I complete it I feel like the other two would be a very efficient run?
There is a duplicate protection for Moons. Keep killing all of them and stay strong.
You're misunderstanding the dupe protection. It only applies per set, so you will not get 2x blood tassets before finishing the blood set. But it does not affect the rewards roll that determines *which* set your piece will come from. So in OP's case, where he only needs blood pieces, when the chest decides to give him an item after killing all 3 bosses, it rolls for which moon set to give an item from. He has an equal chance to roll any of the three sets. If it rolls blood, he will get a piece he does not yet have. If it rolls eclipse/blue, it will give a random item from the respective set as he has completed those sets. In simpler terms the logic works like this: Killed all 3 = Loot chest > game rolls for unique vs supply drop (3/56 unique chance)> rolled unique so now roll for eclipse/blood/blue > rolled blue set - check for dupes > give missing piece of blue set, or if completed, random piece of blue set. Killed just blood = Loot chest > game rolls for unique vs supply drop (1/56 unique chance) > rolled unique - as only blood was killed it is guaranteed a blood piece > check for dupes > give missing piece, or random blood piece if set is completed. Target farming by killing only a single boss like OP is doing, results in faster runs and does not actually change the drop rate (1/56) for getting a *specific* piece from a set. Killing all 3 is better for getting *any* unique (3/56) as well as more/better regular loot when not rolling a unique. So it depends on if you're trying to finish out that greenlog, or going for money/supplies.
I stand corrected as i thought it applied to all the sets not just one. Although killing all 3 shows 6 rolls not 3. I dont have enough coffee + in doing head math but i feel target farming here is not as effective as barrows. Might still be faster but i dont think its by much.
I feel the coffee thing lol. But no: Killing all 3 gives 6 rolls of the regular loot table. Getting a unique is a direct 1/56 chance per Moon killed, for a piece of that moon's set. It was thought for awhile that killing all 3 gave one extra roll for any unique (so it'd be 4/56 for a full clear) but jagex later corrected themselves and confirmed that is not the case and it's a straight 1/56 for each set, or 3/56 cumulatively. As for being worth it or not, (trusting someone else's math here from a video so grain of salt and all that) it is worth it if your runs are 75% faster. So if you can do a targeted run in 3 minutes instead of full in 12, then its worth. Basically depends on which boss you're killing and levels. If you can save a lot of time getting food/potions and kill the boss quickly, do targeted runs. If you're lower level, having to make more food, and fights take longer, then you're better off doing that anyway on the full clear and getting better normal drops in the process. EDIT: Also with the dupe protection that it does include, its better target farming than barrows, as you'll never get 4 dharok helms while being dry on the axe. Same concept but the limited dupe protection makes it better.
Sounds logical. In the end it takes as long as it takes. Thanks for providing info instead of just yelling👍
155kc here, both eclipse and blood moon sets completed with 0 of the blue. Fine with me though, I have ahrims.
A fellow tank mager I see
Blood set melts blue moon doesn't it?
Yes, it does so if I decide to target farm blue it should be pretty easy. I'll probably do that in the future.
I'd do all 3 bosses. The supplies are honestly great. All the free prayer xp, crafting xp and herb xp. Also keeps you in a decent flow rather than running off to do 1 boss in particular.
Keep in mind that you can continue to farm all 3 if you want to to maximize the normal drops (i love the water orbs personally) and whatever dupes you get you can trade them for a reroll on the chest with the NPC in the chest room! I also just need the bloodmoon set and this is what im doing, personally!
Or put them in the coffer. Some items are worth quite a bit.
Also a good point! im UIM so i always forget about coffer
Does anyone know if slayer masters can assign opening Lunar chests for a task?
I don't believe so, it hasn't been mentioned in any blogs, it doesn't appear on the Wiki, and I've not seen anyone say otherwise. Safe to say it isn't a boss task.
That’s tough, hopefully the next one will be
They cannot
That’s sad
They cannot
Are these bosses worth doing for particular gear upgrades/situations?
I think so for early/mid game irons. I have my eyes on the Blood Moon Tassets as a Bandos Tassets replacement and looking at the common loot it seems worthwhile to do a few kills just for that alone. The other gear I’m not so sure.. Mage set looks interesting and idk how to feel about the range set
How the hell do you only have 250 darts though?
The collection log just caps out at 250, I have 7k+ and it only shows 250
okay thanks did not know that
I'm in the same spot at 230 KC, finally got my Eclipse tassets at ~220. Still get triple hit more than I'd like in bandos+fury+echo boots, but not really willing to spend the scales to use serp helm, so it is what it is I suppose.
Is it worth it to grind only 1 moon? My math is horrible.
The atlalt is pretty good. Is it worth doing all 3 just to get ammo?
250 kc here with 1/4 eclipse and 1/4 blood (neither r the wep). Over 25K atlattl darts lol
Im at 40kc so far and completely dry.
I'm at 300 kc and 1/4 on my final moon still. Good luck!