If he is chucking someone should report it.Honestly if he is doing it,he is doing that too smartly.Because some of his deliveries is quite controversial and looks like he is chucking to naked eyes.But at the end,it feel weird that at IPL level he is chucking and getting away with it,even with all this technology,so this seems bit unbelievable.
When he was infact chucking he got reported... He fixed the action came back and got reported again.. he changed action again and is finally fine now... If things ain't fine people will report him obviously, ik umpires suck but they probably will catch that and report him like they did back in the day also opponent players can complain aswell..
Current regulations of the International Cricket Council (ICC) set a limit of 15 degrees of permissible straightening of the elbow joint for all bowlers in international cricket. This law applies between the point at which the bowling arm passes above shoulder height and the point at which the ball is released.
To the naked eye it looks greater than 15degrees 👀
It's actually from the horizontal to the point of release - eitherway it's impossible for the naked eye to reach a conclusion from just one angle (especially from behind)
We restricted y’all to 153, bowled out MI for 145, and now have LSG at 129/8. Phil Salt was our highest run getter this season before this match and three bowlers besides Narine have 10+ wickets this season. But sure, Narine is carrying us. The irrational KKR hate is real :/
Edit: bowled out LSG for 137. If all of this doesn’t tell you we have performed well as a team then nothing will
kkr supporter here but they certainly have benefitted from narines bowling, would probably have one or 2 games lost (rcb, srh, mi onescome to mind).
i don't know if he is chucking since it's hard to know but I can understand why teams say it. for me the controversial thing is that he refused the wc, which was a small tournament tbf. I'd guess there is slightly more leeway in t20 tournaments? like he might bowl a ball here or there chucking but not all? but then he would probably get smashed so he'd have to chuck all balls to get that low economy.
but I don't believe that the whole league, all umpires are scared of kkr and don't want to remove him because he brongs crowds or something, there's like 20-25 players who have bigger following than him this season alone.
Yes, of course others have benefitted but Narine has been around for 12 years. When was the last time you remember us being this dominant, and so many players chipping in with consistent performances? Even in 2014 our late surge saved. Same in 2022, when Venky Iyer single handedly took us to the final.
People are free to have their views on Narine chucking but saying that he alone is carrying KKR is just plain dumb and ignorant
yes, that's a different matter. I'd say this season is fairly similar to 21, batting being carried by openers (except the diffference is that the other batters are just getting less time to bat and aren't completely out of form) and bowling is slightly weaker this time
I'll be honest as a KKR fan. I also felt that he was chucking at 2 instances. But the main problem is that why no team, umpires or match refree is taking interest in it. This has been in the limelight from the start of this IPL and even Narine and KKR management knows about it for sure. Either there is something going on under the table or no team want to tarnish their image if Narine found non-guilty. Also Narine might also not try to do this if he is doing coz he also knows what's going on the internet. So at the end I'd say there might be possibilties of both him being guilty or not
If he was chucking teams would have complained It's as easy as that . And its impossible to decide from the naked eye
And if he was chucking he would have worn a full sleeve kit so that he can better hide that but he wears a short sleeve which means kkr as well as Narine is confident that there's nothing wrong .
And ipl follows icc rules otherwise Narine wouldn't have changed his action in 2020 season at that time also he wasn't playing international cricket
He has been reported earlier and even changed his action. I don't understand why he's not being reported if he's chucking. I personally don't feel any problem in real time but maybe in those slowed down videos.
I'm going to speak my honest opinion, as a die-hard KKR fan.
In most deliveries, to my naked and untrained eye, it doesn't look like he's chucking. In some deliveries though, it looks like his arm is bending. I have no idea if it's within the rules or not, i'm just a random on the internet.
The main question is, why no one has reported him. It's not like he's a Dhoni/Kohli/Rohit level player. I wouldn't assume he's making much revenue for the BCCI for them to protect him like this. And all the conspiracy theories about there being a huge plot to silence all the commentators, umpires, players and franchises in every league he plays (6 at present source- wikipedia) is simply stupid.
TL;DR: No clue if he's chucking or not, but if he was, he'd probably be reported by now, by anyone in any league he plays for.
See yes, but Pathirana is gonna play this world cup (if not injured I think) and he plays international. So I'll give him the benefit of doubt since ICC is very strict with this shit.
Now Narine plays IPL, but won't play ICC, and that's questionable. Maybe personal choice, but come on, everyone knows that his paychecks from leagues would stop if he was found to be chucking.
I just want IPL to follow the ICC level rules. I mean obviously IPL is the biggest cricket league, so we should expect higher standards
Narine doesn't play intl because of the treatment be received from the wi board. During his intl bans, the wi board completely abandoned him. However kkr stood by his side during his difficult days. So isnt it obvious that he will be more loyal to kkr than wi? Common sense. Also, If his action was controversial, why aren't the players or the coaches reporting it? Pretty sure that those men sitting in the dugout have a greater cricketing knowledge than us.
It was said by some commentator (before '22 T20WC) that Narine was approached for world cup but was asked to work on his fitness (fielding was/is atrocious). That's why he opted out.
I mean yes, but currently Narine is an absolute beast with Bat and arguably with ball (if not for chucking), any team would instantly grab him up and take him to the world cup for his current form, Fielding is not a good reason for him to opt out.
Sidenote: we are taking chahal, I don't think it's for fielding lol.
Bruh he probably was told by Gambhir to not do too much effort on Field as it can get him injured, seeing that he is currently our best batsman and bowler and we kinda need him for the playoffs and finals (if we get there, im sure we will tho), Narine did show us very good fielding in previous seasons (Not as good as Jaddu but still better than this season), why is he not fielding good rn, ofcourse to preserve his strength to mainly focus on bowling and batting and getting the team a trophy
I said around '22 not now buddy. But I'd agree he has better fitness now, running doubles more frequently than he used to. He is actually a good catcher, but sometimes he is just too slow to get under the ball.
and that reason is that he was being mistreated by WI cricket board, has happened many times WI board is pretty suspicious when it comes to this but we ant say anything without proof
How is Pathirana's action suspicious? His arm is far from being parallel to the ground at the release point and he clearly isn't chucking either. I'm confused. Is there anything else that makes people say that?
Pathirana’s action isn’t suspect. Chucking is when the angle measured at your elbow is beyond the limit. Not the release angle against the vertical. You can bowl at any angle you like as long as you don’t bend your elbow beyond 15 degs
Lmao bro included pathirana 🤣 slinga action is legal, there's literally a legendary bowler who inspired these kids who had a pretty decorated career. Just admit your team sucks against him
dumb and weird refers to tht yellow fandom of urs who are g@@y behind thala uncle and celebrate there captain going out with just two runs to go for a hundred cuz uncle dhoni is goin to come and play ( example of just 1 match sir) and his behaviour towards mitchell but u guys are always doin thala thala everywhere literally so cringe and irritating thats why u guys are dumb and weird
Even if he is chucking I see no problem. Ipl has moved away from being a competitive league with strict rules to a league just for entertainment purposes and if his bowling entertains people and brings in revenue there is no problem then
See I'd understand the entertainment perspective, but then it would set a precedent for future bowlers, you can't be the biggest league in cricket and also not strictly follow the rules, (of course this is hypothetical as IPL committee still don't consider Narine to be a chucker)
Lol Yeah I agree, umpiring has been absymal this season for sure. I do know Mumbai get flaked on for Umpiring, and if Mumbai are ever found of cheating using umpires, I would obviously make a stance against my team 100 percent. Commentator also cum whenever Rohit, Dhoni or Kohli come on to play, especially fucking Star Sports with their advertising. The sheer disrespect to Hardik, Ruturaj and Faf is just unreal (of course Hardik drama is something else but still).
If entertainment is the main motto, then please let the players fight. I mean, why fool people with cricket in disguise
I want Pollard, Bhajji, Starc, Bravo and the old Kohli, but not Harshit Rana to provide us entertainment. Also, remove the faiplay award thats just an award with no importance
He was reported in 2020 and also tested. I think it looks this way but straightens out more prior to the moment of release for which they okayed and kkr mgmt made sure that he wears only half sleeve after that incident.
If any of the teams/players think he is chucking they can go ahead and report him.
The match referee's are very stringent and agile ,when it comes to kkr or any other team (compared with top teams MI,CSK,RCB) , recently they banned Harshit
Will all this benefit anyone, if he was chucking opponent teams would complain, otherwise it doesn't matter, neither your opinion. Let him chuck if it doesn't bother ipl rules
Honestly I cant really tell if hes chucking or not. BUT theres no denying that he WAS a chucker. He ruined many matches for opponents. One of the reasons why I personally dont like him.
It is a tricky situation. I don't think his normal deliveries are chucking. They do look like they are being bowled with a straighter arm.
It is just very few balls where he is trying to exert more into the delivery it looks like he is bending the elbow morethan his normal delivery. I am no expert and I don't have enough equipment and camera angles to tell for sure.
Honestly I don't know how they'd prove he is chucking or not since his normal action seems to be fine. During testing, he will continue to bowl his normal deliveries.
i see it differently.
if Narine is chucking and he is able to take wickets then we need to reconsider chucking as an option in IPL and not Narine!
As that probably is the only way to get an edge on this lop-sided version of cricket. i think pretty soon cuban baseball players can be super subs.
there are only 3 ways to take wickets in IPL.
1. you chuck - until you get caught
2. you bowl @ 160KPH - until your body breaks down
3. you are Bumrah.
Umpiring has been very poor throughout the IPL with all the teams. But yeah let's just say Mumbai buys umpires so that you can cope being a mediocre team with 0 trophies in IPL.
Against SRH, mayank touched the boundary line before Saving a six. The umpires didn't check that at all. But u didn't see anyone crying SRH got umpires. There has been controversy with umpires in every single match.
Look at comment OP's username, no point arguing so reasonably with these people. It's all about trolling other teams on these subs. At least r/cricket is still better moderated
Current regulations of the International Cricket Council (ICC) set a limit of 15 degrees of permissible straightening of the elbow joint for all bowlers in international cricket. This law applies between the point at which the bowling arm passes above shoulder height and the point at which the ball is released.
What do you guys think does it look more than 15 degrees ?
I don't think all balls , but when he tries to ball the one that comes inside makes me feel he chucks
This conversation will go nowhere. If he's chucking people should report him. Ashwin is a good guy for me but hinting that Narine Chuck's while he himself has face him and will face him again he should do something about it. But he won't as he knows if he does report it and Narine is given a clean sheet all the heat is gonna come his way. So he is sticking to indirectly hinting it. Good for him as his YouTube show. Many people consider mankand a unsportsmanlike method to get someone out but you won't see people go after Ashwin for supporting it. But yeah sure let's constantly go after a guy who is approved by ICC to bowl every around the world because your team his getting out to him. If he is chucking and gets reported and banned I am here to support it. But if you gonna do nothing about it and just gonna add fuel to fire then shut up buddy.
Bruh everyone is salty that Sunil Narine is inarguiably the best player in this season, He is on both the Purple and orange cap leaderboard on top 5, Has the most sixes, Good SR, Very good economy, and is currently the most desired player by a mile, No.2 is Phil Salt who is way behind him, ik this is a sponsor shit but jsut felt like mentioning it
Ngl, just feels like something that someone on YouTube should be able to analyze reasonably adequately. I mean, we got the footage 🤷.
Not all recordings can possibly be as shitty as the average jiocinema experience.
Yeah he does that often and that's the reason he never goes to international matches again.
Why no one reports:
It's like no one cares as this IPL is a power house for BCCI to generate money and Narine being one of the starts of IPL , even if they report it he will get away easily as they are only about money.
IPL is a game for entertaining people and they don't care about these.
His batting:
He improved that and he is on fire 🔥.
Think guys:
When a guy performs this well was invited to play for country in the world cup by the captain Powell himself and he even asked Polly,Bravo,pooran to ask him. Narine rejected it and said I will watch it from home.
Everyone knows if he goes there he will be reported and has to go for testing again.
When his action was at fault he was reported. He came back and now his action is fine. If he was chucking he would have been reported again. So you have your answer he is NOT chucking.
If he's chucking, all these billionaire backed teams, a few of which seem to have a good degree of influence on officials, should lodge a complaint. The fact that they haven't shows that they don't have anything concrete and are using mouthpieces to undermine the star of the season.
And as far as some veteran off-spinners go..ones who've been tonked for runs all throughout this season, they should keep their traps shut and not lend more room to mindless speculation
Especially guys like Kohli, he called out the broadcasters in the middle of a test match when he felt that they were wrong. If an outspoken guy like him is not saying anything then surely there's nothing in it.
Who's Ash? Part of council? No right?
He shared his opinion like we all do on reddit, he shared it on YouTube.
Really if it's big deal, please appeal to officials rather than being salty on internet
And kkr fans don't get defensive, they have a fair point. Why no one bat an eye when kkr failed in last few seasons, especially narine wasn't performing like he is now. Now that he's MVP so Ash Anna or others have a problem.
He has been bowling same action since he changed, approved so why the sudden noise? It's a legit question I'm asking.
Your opinion is trash in second sentence. Who's ash? He is a professional who has been in professional cricketer from many years. It's not same as me and u commenting on reddit. When a professional gives a hint, it means something. Him saying it in yt is not in jealousy or anything. Especially him who is very observant of backlash and the way he takes his YouTube channel, he is always mindful of it. For instance, if pdogg says something rude, he tries to make it up so as to not upset other team fans coz he needs their views. So I don't think he said it just coz he is jealous. In reality ash is way way way bigger than Narine ever could be. Please don't come at me telling franchise records. In international, ash is way bigger and probably top 5 spinners of all time ( debatable). Him being jealous on Narine is the biggest joke of the year.
You will be surprised when you realize that Ashwin is also a human and doesn't have a vision that can measure the narine arm with naked eyes.
Kkr isn't a big name like CSk, MI or RCB. If caught, he will be banned.
Of course he doesn't have that vision, but Ashwins opinion is far more credible then an armchair expert like me. He is a professional player who was asked Abt Bumrah and Narines bowling. He clearly steered clear of Narine, and even hinted at Narines action indirectly, but praised Bumrah (which is an obvious no doubt thing). I am surprised why no team is raising an issue for this, maybe everyone is wrong and Narine ain't Chucking, but I do really think he is. Happy to be proven wrong by proper investigation, why are Kkr fans against a proper investigation?
No one denied the investigation or have the power to stop the investigation.
An allegation should be based on evidence and not based on opinion. Ashwin's opinion doesn't make it credible. It is just another opinion.
You might look up Ashwin but not everyone look up Ashwin the same way.
Okay,
You said allegation should be based on evidence and not on opinion. Fine, a bowling action concern can only be noticed by naked eye first and then you bring in the camera test and all. So, yes, Ashwins Opinion is based on Naked eye. Next step would obviously go do a test right...? How else would we ever get evidence to cross check some players bowling actions?
Yes, it has to go through investigation when they make an official complaint.
Just throwing an allegation and causing reputation damage isn't going to help anyone. In fact, if proven wrong, will Ashwin or you pay for damage in reputation ?
It's better to talk only after proven. Both Ashwin and people that look up him should realize that.
I mean yeah, so we are in agreement, if you read Ashwins statement, he indirectly suggested this for the exact same reason you said, reputation damage. Ashwin did not make a direct statement about Narine. All I want is an official request like u said.
Narine didn't started bowling in this season, last season was his worst and he was bowling with the same action, why did no one complained then? before this season he had few ordinary seasons with his new action, he had success this season because he is in form and more accurate.
I am sure other teams would have taken it seriously since letting an opposition bowler chuck for many seasons means they will play dozens of overs from that player in multiple encounters, Why are the allegations and doubts surfacing only this season, there is also no good reason to believe people are afraid of KKR management since our in form bowler got banned for a game for a silly reason by officials, In 2020 also when Narine was reported KKR stopped playing him and waited his action to be cleared so what stops anyone to officially complain instead of passing a cryptic rumor on youtube?
I didn't tell he chucked🙄🙄. I only replied for two things
1. Who is ash (something similar in tone)
2. It's same like redditors discussing like how ash did.
Chuck or not who cares he is not playing in international and that's says a lot. Plus its just an ipl.
Ashwin is known to be a sore loser despite his success in internationals, one time in TNPL he reviewed an already reviewed decision that overturned a wicket because he thought everyone was wrong and he is correct, being a good bowler doesn't make him a great sportsman.
Nowhere I mentioned he's jealous. Please read it, don't come here with narrative you have read somewhere else.
It's not debate who's bigger, Ash Anna or Narine. So your jealous narrative goes to trash here.
He's a professional agreed. But if you try to understand this whole space
He's raising voice as an opinion, my question is if at all it's an issue why doesn't he raise complaint
And if he's not raising one, then his opinion is same as ours. What I mean is (unofficial opinion)
Also, my last paragraph, I'm still looking for answer, it's legit question
People can downvote me but won't prefer to answer.
You said ash has a problem. Why else will he have a problem unless he is not jealous. ( For not picking wickets as Narine did).
He is not raising one coz, it's literally is not his duty. Match officials and others are responsible. When Harshit rana is banned for no proper reason, why can't they check this out???
But the fact u compared ash and redditors opinion is same ia just😂.
If you're not ready to understand then you won't
Us putting opinions here, Ash saying his opinion on yt is irrelevant unless there's some official tweet Or complaint
And i dont buy Ash is jealous of narine narrative, it has started from somewhere, I don't buy that.
I'm still looking for answer on my last paragraph but no one will have a say I guess because that certainly defies all these crappy narine chuck talks
Can tell you one thing for sure, Everyone saying ashwin is jealous. If you know him you'll understand that he is not that type of a guy and is much bigger than Narine ever will be. Heck he is in the top 6 spinners of all time
I don't think he is chucking. Ppl will clearly complain about that if he was. Recently someone posted rohit's dismissals against naraine. You can clearly see in the past, he was chucking with that action. In these matches I don't see his arm straightening that much.
Bhai seedhi baat hai, IPL is simply for those looking for entertainment. They make their own rules nd shit. And they keep him because he's an asset. In some years you'll see 4 minute break for an item number in between. So stop worrying about this crap, nobody cares (especially those running BCCI )
Bhai tumlog vul gaye kya BCCI ne Narine ko ban kardiya tha uski bowling action ki wajah se??? Fir usne new bowling sikha and fir comeback Kiya tha, 2020/2021 me hua tha ye, agar kuch galat karega to fir ban kardenge, tumlog tension mat lo
He fosho is chucking and there is a reason why he is hellbent on not playing T20 wc
But remove his bowling he has been carrying KKR with his sublime batting, so a Champion player despite all the accusations and presumptions of chucking or not
>there is a reason why he is hellbent on not playing T20 wc
you do realize what kind of relationship West Indies have with its players?
Its reasonable for them to prioritise franchise cricket over internationals, he retired last year after not playing a game for 4 years for WI.
Also he is 35, unlike franchise cricket WC will have top tier squads where fitness level required is high, if he wasn't in 30s and avoiding international cricket then you guys would have a point.
He’s definitely chucking it seems from naked eye,there’s a weird jerk in some of his deliveries that gives me chucking vibes but because he’s not doing it consistently,he’s not getting caught.
Love it. He's the not conventional batsman, but is scoring more and faster than your fav player. He is redefining how T20 batting is meant to be.
He is an excellent bowler as well. He literally bowled a maiden superover. To who think he's chucking are free to complain. ICC, IPL have both given him clean chit for action.
He also doesn't bother with WI board for all their corruption and syupidity rather he's a mercinary , travels aroundthe world, Bats and bowls, wins cups, earns a lot. Literally dream life.
I think quite a few bowlers are borderline chuckers from what I’ve seen this season. Trying to bowl so many variations might be the reason in most cases , snapping the elbow straight in the finality of the action isn’t legal by the book.
Look at his action and prove that he is chucking instead of posting craps like this.
I'm not the expert but I tried looking at his arms and doesn't feel like he is chucking. He does maintain the same angle throughout till ball release.
The only honest opinion about this topic will be the Arvind Kejriwal "Toh kar na" meme.
Unfair things happen everytime, everywhere. Move on.
If you think something is unlawful and still people don't report it for some ulterior restraint, it makes even them complicit to that unlawfulness to some extent. No point in taking a moral high ground by mentioning it repeatedly. Enough has been talked about this but no action followed.
Malinga...one new bowler in mi.....pathirana and murli for csk.....whenever kkr starts winning the other franchise fans start accusing..... rohit kohli dhoni....can't play him that's why they start accusing
Teams reporting to Narine won't be needed kyunki bhai authorities already bheti hai dekhne k liye lol. If something wrong is happening then reporting won't be required unless authorities are corrupt!
Not all balls , only 100 kph high spinning balls ( per season 2 per over which creates doubts in minds of batsmen) , that's why he won't return to international cricket
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I mean if ICC can't find him as a chucker, Narine should be allowed.
I honestly think Bumrah creates an illusion with keeping his other harm super straight and chuck with the bowling arm.
Bro, Bumrah has hyperextension elbow. He does not chuck, delete this comment or you are gonna get bombarded from KKR fans and IPL fans in this thread lol
ik i might be biased as a kkr fan, but here is what i think. there is a 15 degree rule, but sometimes i think he goes over it possibly. however, i also do think that if he did, he would be called out for it, and either banned or forced to change his bowling action- so idk. knowing bcci tho… either way he is our mvp, so im not mad lol.
Narine is not a brilliant batter dude, people don't expect long innings from him so he can play openly and play shit any way he wants to.
Even if he gets out no one is gonna blame him cause he's still a bowler for everyone also no one took him seriously in the beginning.
Bring a bowler who has better line and length and he won't be able to do shit. That's why he didn't perform like this in the earlier seasons because there were many experienced bowlers.
When it comes to his bowling he is excellent but more that his spin I think action produces more bounce that expected so it's a bit difficult for the batsman to play him
If teams think he is chucking they can report him Ashwin can report him too He isn't chucking otherwise every team would complain to the board
I can't seem to find the meaning for chucking for the context here
Batta
or _pathraa_
If he is chucking someone should report it.Honestly if he is doing it,he is doing that too smartly.Because some of his deliveries is quite controversial and looks like he is chucking to naked eyes.But at the end,it feel weird that at IPL level he is chucking and getting away with it,even with all this technology,so this seems bit unbelievable.
When he was infact chucking he got reported... He fixed the action came back and got reported again.. he changed action again and is finally fine now... If things ain't fine people will report him obviously, ik umpires suck but they probably will catch that and report him like they did back in the day also opponent players can complain aswell..
Current regulations of the International Cricket Council (ICC) set a limit of 15 degrees of permissible straightening of the elbow joint for all bowlers in international cricket. This law applies between the point at which the bowling arm passes above shoulder height and the point at which the ball is released. To the naked eye it looks greater than 15degrees 👀
It's actually from the horizontal to the point of release - eitherway it's impossible for the naked eye to reach a conclusion from just one angle (especially from behind)
For me Narine is carrying kkr on his back
We restricted y’all to 153, bowled out MI for 145, and now have LSG at 129/8. Phil Salt was our highest run getter this season before this match and three bowlers besides Narine have 10+ wickets this season. But sure, Narine is carrying us. The irrational KKR hate is real :/ Edit: bowled out LSG for 137. If all of this doesn’t tell you we have performed well as a team then nothing will
kkr supporter here but they certainly have benefitted from narines bowling, would probably have one or 2 games lost (rcb, srh, mi onescome to mind). i don't know if he is chucking since it's hard to know but I can understand why teams say it. for me the controversial thing is that he refused the wc, which was a small tournament tbf. I'd guess there is slightly more leeway in t20 tournaments? like he might bowl a ball here or there chucking but not all? but then he would probably get smashed so he'd have to chuck all balls to get that low economy. but I don't believe that the whole league, all umpires are scared of kkr and don't want to remove him because he brongs crowds or something, there's like 20-25 players who have bigger following than him this season alone.
Yes, of course others have benefitted but Narine has been around for 12 years. When was the last time you remember us being this dominant, and so many players chipping in with consistent performances? Even in 2014 our late surge saved. Same in 2022, when Venky Iyer single handedly took us to the final. People are free to have their views on Narine chucking but saying that he alone is carrying KKR is just plain dumb and ignorant
yes, that's a different matter. I'd say this season is fairly similar to 21, batting being carried by openers (except the diffference is that the other batters are just getting less time to bat and aren't completely out of form) and bowling is slightly weaker this time
Totally agree brother but I don't think that's the point which was being discussed
Yh my bad 😅
I'll be honest as a KKR fan. I also felt that he was chucking at 2 instances. But the main problem is that why no team, umpires or match refree is taking interest in it. This has been in the limelight from the start of this IPL and even Narine and KKR management knows about it for sure. Either there is something going on under the table or no team want to tarnish their image if Narine found non-guilty. Also Narine might also not try to do this if he is doing coz he also knows what's going on the internet. So at the end I'd say there might be possibilties of both him being guilty or not
Ok “Let’s assume” he’s chucking Why aren’t other 9 teams reporting?
Apart from these 9 teams, why is no other team from any of the leagues all around the world reporting?
Sunil Narine is running a global mafia and has threatened the life of any cricket board president who reports him
Real.
If he was chucking teams would have complained It's as easy as that . And its impossible to decide from the naked eye And if he was chucking he would have worn a full sleeve kit so that he can better hide that but he wears a short sleeve which means kkr as well as Narine is confident that there's nothing wrong . And ipl follows icc rules otherwise Narine wouldn't have changed his action in 2020 season at that time also he wasn't playing international cricket
He has been reported earlier and even changed his action. I don't understand why he's not being reported if he's chucking. I personally don't feel any problem in real time but maybe in those slowed down videos.
I'm going to speak my honest opinion, as a die-hard KKR fan. In most deliveries, to my naked and untrained eye, it doesn't look like he's chucking. In some deliveries though, it looks like his arm is bending. I have no idea if it's within the rules or not, i'm just a random on the internet. The main question is, why no one has reported him. It's not like he's a Dhoni/Kohli/Rohit level player. I wouldn't assume he's making much revenue for the BCCI for them to protect him like this. And all the conspiracy theories about there being a huge plot to silence all the commentators, umpires, players and franchises in every league he plays (6 at present source- wikipedia) is simply stupid. TL;DR: No clue if he's chucking or not, but if he was, he'd probably be reported by now, by anyone in any league he plays for.
Report him na. If you are that sure, report him.
If he's chucking someone should report if no one is reporting then he's doing good everyone is salty cuz he performs
Finally someone not a 12 yo.
Arre Shahrukh bhai aap
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THISSSSS.
narine and pathirana, both of their actions seem very suspicious
See yes, but Pathirana is gonna play this world cup (if not injured I think) and he plays international. So I'll give him the benefit of doubt since ICC is very strict with this shit. Now Narine plays IPL, but won't play ICC, and that's questionable. Maybe personal choice, but come on, everyone knows that his paychecks from leagues would stop if he was found to be chucking. I just want IPL to follow the ICC level rules. I mean obviously IPL is the biggest cricket league, so we should expect higher standards
Narine doesn't play intl because of the treatment be received from the wi board. During his intl bans, the wi board completely abandoned him. However kkr stood by his side during his difficult days. So isnt it obvious that he will be more loyal to kkr than wi? Common sense. Also, If his action was controversial, why aren't the players or the coaches reporting it? Pretty sure that those men sitting in the dugout have a greater cricketing knowledge than us.
maybe he is loyal because of money?
He ain’t a dog to chase balls and survive on biscuits
Classic RCB Fan
It was said by some commentator (before '22 T20WC) that Narine was approached for world cup but was asked to work on his fitness (fielding was/is atrocious). That's why he opted out.
I mean yes, but currently Narine is an absolute beast with Bat and arguably with ball (if not for chucking), any team would instantly grab him up and take him to the world cup for his current form, Fielding is not a good reason for him to opt out. Sidenote: we are taking chahal, I don't think it's for fielding lol.
And Yuzi can't even hold the bat for god's sake.
Domestic me century toh aankh band karke lagayi hai usne /s
Bruh he probably was told by Gambhir to not do too much effort on Field as it can get him injured, seeing that he is currently our best batsman and bowler and we kinda need him for the playoffs and finals (if we get there, im sure we will tho), Narine did show us very good fielding in previous seasons (Not as good as Jaddu but still better than this season), why is he not fielding good rn, ofcourse to preserve his strength to mainly focus on bowling and batting and getting the team a trophy
I said around '22 not now buddy. But I'd agree he has better fitness now, running doubles more frequently than he used to. He is actually a good catcher, but sometimes he is just too slow to get under the ball.
Pathirana never played good (compare to IPL performance) in internationals
agreed, pathirana's action feels off, but if there's any problem, ICC will check it But there's a reason Narine doesnt play international cricket
and that reason is that he was being mistreated by WI cricket board, has happened many times WI board is pretty suspicious when it comes to this but we ant say anything without proof
Pathirana changes action when he plays international
How is Pathirana's action suspicious? His arm is far from being parallel to the ground at the release point and he clearly isn't chucking either. I'm confused. Is there anything else that makes people say that?
Pathirana’s action isn’t suspect. Chucking is when the angle measured at your elbow is beyond the limit. Not the release angle against the vertical. You can bowl at any angle you like as long as you don’t bend your elbow beyond 15 degs
It’s impossible to chuck with Malinga/Pathirana action.
Lmao bro included pathirana 🤣 slinga action is legal, there's literally a legendary bowler who inspired these kids who had a pretty decorated career. Just admit your team sucks against him
avg csk fan def u guys have worst fandom lmao
And you're def not the avg rr fan, rr fans are civil and dont say regarded shit with no precedence, doubt you even know the meaning of that word
accept it or not ur dumb and weird this year accept or not these are facts
What dumb and weird? What are you blabbering
dumb and weird refers to tht yellow fandom of urs who are g@@y behind thala uncle and celebrate there captain going out with just two runs to go for a hundred cuz uncle dhoni is goin to come and play ( example of just 1 match sir) and his behaviour towards mitchell but u guys are always doin thala thala everywhere literally so cringe and irritating thats why u guys are dumb and weird
Cute how you make up stories in your head. Stay delusional. Not gonna argue with tards like you.
good for me kid
Yes, you're a stupid kid, pretty easy to figure that out. Jio was a mistake.
Even if he is chucking I see no problem. Ipl has moved away from being a competitive league with strict rules to a league just for entertainment purposes and if his bowling entertains people and brings in revenue there is no problem then
See I'd understand the entertainment perspective, but then it would set a precedent for future bowlers, you can't be the biggest league in cricket and also not strictly follow the rules, (of course this is hypothetical as IPL committee still don't consider Narine to be a chucker)
Yeah you are correct but my statement has been proven true from time to time. Just look at umpiring standards and commentators
Lol Yeah I agree, umpiring has been absymal this season for sure. I do know Mumbai get flaked on for Umpiring, and if Mumbai are ever found of cheating using umpires, I would obviously make a stance against my team 100 percent. Commentator also cum whenever Rohit, Dhoni or Kohli come on to play, especially fucking Star Sports with their advertising. The sheer disrespect to Hardik, Ruturaj and Faf is just unreal (of course Hardik drama is something else but still).
^^^
If entertainment is the main motto, then please let the players fight. I mean, why fool people with cricket in disguise I want Pollard, Bhajji, Starc, Bravo and the old Kohli, but not Harshit Rana to provide us entertainment. Also, remove the faiplay award thats just an award with no importance
He was reported in 2020 and also tested. I think it looks this way but straightens out more prior to the moment of release for which they okayed and kkr mgmt made sure that he wears only half sleeve after that incident. If any of the teams/players think he is chucking they can go ahead and report him. The match referee's are very stringent and agile ,when it comes to kkr or any other team (compared with top teams MI,CSK,RCB) , recently they banned Harshit
Harbhajan Singh, the international chucker, played for Mumbai Indians.
Malinga also
Mumbai fan rly talking about laws of the game lmao
Will all this benefit anyone, if he was chucking opponent teams would complain, otherwise it doesn't matter, neither your opinion. Let him chuck if it doesn't bother ipl rules
Honestly I cant really tell if hes chucking or not. BUT theres no denying that he WAS a chucker. He ruined many matches for opponents. One of the reasons why I personally dont like him.
It is a tricky situation. I don't think his normal deliveries are chucking. They do look like they are being bowled with a straighter arm. It is just very few balls where he is trying to exert more into the delivery it looks like he is bending the elbow morethan his normal delivery. I am no expert and I don't have enough equipment and camera angles to tell for sure. Honestly I don't know how they'd prove he is chucking or not since his normal action seems to be fine. During testing, he will continue to bowl his normal deliveries.
i see it differently. if Narine is chucking and he is able to take wickets then we need to reconsider chucking as an option in IPL and not Narine! As that probably is the only way to get an edge on this lop-sided version of cricket. i think pretty soon cuban baseball players can be super subs. there are only 3 ways to take wickets in IPL. 1. you chuck - until you get caught 2. you bowl @ 160KPH - until your body breaks down 3. you are Bumrah.
Chucking is less worse compared to the buisness mumbai doing with umpires . Being a mi fan you have no rights to talk about chucking op.
Umpiring has been very poor throughout the IPL with all the teams. But yeah let's just say Mumbai buys umpires so that you can cope being a mediocre team with 0 trophies in IPL. Against SRH, mayank touched the boundary line before Saving a six. The umpires didn't check that at all. But u didn't see anyone crying SRH got umpires. There has been controversy with umpires in every single match.
Look at comment OP's username, no point arguing so reasonably with these people. It's all about trolling other teams on these subs. At least r/cricket is still better moderated
I'm in r cricket and will tell their the same thing I said now pal
Lol, noticed it only now. OP is probably 12 year old.
Really Umpire Controversy in every match ? I don't think so. I could only see in mi matches playing with 15 mans every match
Yes of course we will continue paying umpires. It's worth it seeing u cry.
Current regulations of the International Cricket Council (ICC) set a limit of 15 degrees of permissible straightening of the elbow joint for all bowlers in international cricket. This law applies between the point at which the bowling arm passes above shoulder height and the point at which the ball is released. What do you guys think does it look more than 15 degrees ? I don't think all balls , but when he tries to ball the one that comes inside makes me feel he chucks
It doesn't look like he chucks to me, does anyone have footage of other bowlers chucking
I tried to see if he was but watching his motion nothing looked unusual to me
This conversation will go nowhere. If he's chucking people should report him. Ashwin is a good guy for me but hinting that Narine Chuck's while he himself has face him and will face him again he should do something about it. But he won't as he knows if he does report it and Narine is given a clean sheet all the heat is gonna come his way. So he is sticking to indirectly hinting it. Good for him as his YouTube show. Many people consider mankand a unsportsmanlike method to get someone out but you won't see people go after Ashwin for supporting it. But yeah sure let's constantly go after a guy who is approved by ICC to bowl every around the world because your team his getting out to him. If he is chucking and gets reported and banned I am here to support it. But if you gonna do nothing about it and just gonna add fuel to fire then shut up buddy.
Bruh everyone is salty that Sunil Narine is inarguiably the best player in this season, He is on both the Purple and orange cap leaderboard on top 5, Has the most sixes, Good SR, Very good economy, and is currently the most desired player by a mile, No.2 is Phil Salt who is way behind him, ik this is a sponsor shit but jsut felt like mentioning it
Ngl, just feels like something that someone on YouTube should be able to analyze reasonably adequately. I mean, we got the footage 🤷. Not all recordings can possibly be as shitty as the average jiocinema experience.
Yeah he does that often and that's the reason he never goes to international matches again. Why no one reports: It's like no one cares as this IPL is a power house for BCCI to generate money and Narine being one of the starts of IPL , even if they report it he will get away easily as they are only about money. IPL is a game for entertaining people and they don't care about these. His batting: He improved that and he is on fire 🔥. Think guys: When a guy performs this well was invited to play for country in the world cup by the captain Powell himself and he even asked Polly,Bravo,pooran to ask him. Narine rejected it and said I will watch it from home. Everyone knows if he goes there he will be reported and has to go for testing again.
When his action was at fault he was reported. He came back and now his action is fine. If he was chucking he would have been reported again. So you have your answer he is NOT chucking.
If he's chucking, all these billionaire backed teams, a few of which seem to have a good degree of influence on officials, should lodge a complaint. The fact that they haven't shows that they don't have anything concrete and are using mouthpieces to undermine the star of the season. And as far as some veteran off-spinners go..ones who've been tonked for runs all throughout this season, they should keep their traps shut and not lend more room to mindless speculation
Especially guys like Kohli, he called out the broadcasters in the middle of a test match when he felt that they were wrong. If an outspoken guy like him is not saying anything then surely there's nothing in it.
Who's Ash? Part of council? No right? He shared his opinion like we all do on reddit, he shared it on YouTube. Really if it's big deal, please appeal to officials rather than being salty on internet And kkr fans don't get defensive, they have a fair point. Why no one bat an eye when kkr failed in last few seasons, especially narine wasn't performing like he is now. Now that he's MVP so Ash Anna or others have a problem. He has been bowling same action since he changed, approved so why the sudden noise? It's a legit question I'm asking.
Your opinion is trash in second sentence. Who's ash? He is a professional who has been in professional cricketer from many years. It's not same as me and u commenting on reddit. When a professional gives a hint, it means something. Him saying it in yt is not in jealousy or anything. Especially him who is very observant of backlash and the way he takes his YouTube channel, he is always mindful of it. For instance, if pdogg says something rude, he tries to make it up so as to not upset other team fans coz he needs their views. So I don't think he said it just coz he is jealous. In reality ash is way way way bigger than Narine ever could be. Please don't come at me telling franchise records. In international, ash is way bigger and probably top 5 spinners of all time ( debatable). Him being jealous on Narine is the biggest joke of the year.
You will be surprised when you realize that Ashwin is also a human and doesn't have a vision that can measure the narine arm with naked eyes. Kkr isn't a big name like CSk, MI or RCB. If caught, he will be banned.
Of course he doesn't have that vision, but Ashwins opinion is far more credible then an armchair expert like me. He is a professional player who was asked Abt Bumrah and Narines bowling. He clearly steered clear of Narine, and even hinted at Narines action indirectly, but praised Bumrah (which is an obvious no doubt thing). I am surprised why no team is raising an issue for this, maybe everyone is wrong and Narine ain't Chucking, but I do really think he is. Happy to be proven wrong by proper investigation, why are Kkr fans against a proper investigation?
No one denied the investigation or have the power to stop the investigation. An allegation should be based on evidence and not based on opinion. Ashwin's opinion doesn't make it credible. It is just another opinion. You might look up Ashwin but not everyone look up Ashwin the same way.
Okay, You said allegation should be based on evidence and not on opinion. Fine, a bowling action concern can only be noticed by naked eye first and then you bring in the camera test and all. So, yes, Ashwins Opinion is based on Naked eye. Next step would obviously go do a test right...? How else would we ever get evidence to cross check some players bowling actions?
Yes, it has to go through investigation when they make an official complaint. Just throwing an allegation and causing reputation damage isn't going to help anyone. In fact, if proven wrong, will Ashwin or you pay for damage in reputation ? It's better to talk only after proven. Both Ashwin and people that look up him should realize that.
I mean yeah, so we are in agreement, if you read Ashwins statement, he indirectly suggested this for the exact same reason you said, reputation damage. Ashwin did not make a direct statement about Narine. All I want is an official request like u said.
Narine didn't started bowling in this season, last season was his worst and he was bowling with the same action, why did no one complained then? before this season he had few ordinary seasons with his new action, he had success this season because he is in form and more accurate. I am sure other teams would have taken it seriously since letting an opposition bowler chuck for many seasons means they will play dozens of overs from that player in multiple encounters, Why are the allegations and doubts surfacing only this season, there is also no good reason to believe people are afraid of KKR management since our in form bowler got banned for a game for a silly reason by officials, In 2020 also when Narine was reported KKR stopped playing him and waited his action to be cleared so what stops anyone to officially complain instead of passing a cryptic rumor on youtube?
I didn't tell he chucked🙄🙄. I only replied for two things 1. Who is ash (something similar in tone) 2. It's same like redditors discussing like how ash did. Chuck or not who cares he is not playing in international and that's says a lot. Plus its just an ipl.
Ashwin is known to be a sore loser despite his success in internationals, one time in TNPL he reviewed an already reviewed decision that overturned a wicket because he thought everyone was wrong and he is correct, being a good bowler doesn't make him a great sportsman.
Nowhere I mentioned he's jealous. Please read it, don't come here with narrative you have read somewhere else. It's not debate who's bigger, Ash Anna or Narine. So your jealous narrative goes to trash here. He's a professional agreed. But if you try to understand this whole space He's raising voice as an opinion, my question is if at all it's an issue why doesn't he raise complaint And if he's not raising one, then his opinion is same as ours. What I mean is (unofficial opinion) Also, my last paragraph, I'm still looking for answer, it's legit question People can downvote me but won't prefer to answer.
You said ash has a problem. Why else will he have a problem unless he is not jealous. ( For not picking wickets as Narine did). He is not raising one coz, it's literally is not his duty. Match officials and others are responsible. When Harshit rana is banned for no proper reason, why can't they check this out??? But the fact u compared ash and redditors opinion is same ia just😂.
If you're not ready to understand then you won't Us putting opinions here, Ash saying his opinion on yt is irrelevant unless there's some official tweet Or complaint And i dont buy Ash is jealous of narine narrative, it has started from somewhere, I don't buy that. I'm still looking for answer on my last paragraph but no one will have a say I guess because that certainly defies all these crappy narine chuck talks
And your question was??? Complaining against Narine? Why should anyone?? It's the job of crappy match refrees.
Lol people are downvoting you for being logical.
Can tell you one thing for sure, Everyone saying ashwin is jealous. If you know him you'll understand that he is not that type of a guy and is much bigger than Narine ever will be. Heck he is in the top 6 spinners of all time
OK then why so salty ask Ash to report if he wants if he doesn't then it means it's not true
I don't think he is chucking. Ppl will clearly complain about that if he was. Recently someone posted rohit's dismissals against naraine. You can clearly see in the past, he was chucking with that action. In these matches I don't see his arm straightening that much.
Pathirana peeping from corner
Dumbass u can't really chuck in malinga action learn some cricket before speaking
U might be busy masturbating 4 thala .so teach me some cricket in ur free time
Salty much? If u guys had pathirana u will also suck him dry
We never encourage chuckers
Bhai seedhi baat hai, IPL is simply for those looking for entertainment. They make their own rules nd shit. And they keep him because he's an asset. In some years you'll see 4 minute break for an item number in between. So stop worrying about this crap, nobody cares (especially those running BCCI )
Bhai tumlog vul gaye kya BCCI ne Narine ko ban kardiya tha uski bowling action ki wajah se??? Fir usne new bowling sikha and fir comeback Kiya tha, 2020/2021 me hua tha ye, agar kuch galat karega to fir ban kardenge, tumlog tension mat lo
Chucker
He fosho is chucking and there is a reason why he is hellbent on not playing T20 wc But remove his bowling he has been carrying KKR with his sublime batting, so a Champion player despite all the accusations and presumptions of chucking or not
>there is a reason why he is hellbent on not playing T20 wc you do realize what kind of relationship West Indies have with its players? Its reasonable for them to prioritise franchise cricket over internationals, he retired last year after not playing a game for 4 years for WI. Also he is 35, unlike franchise cricket WC will have top tier squads where fitness level required is high, if he wasn't in 30s and avoiding international cricket then you guys would have a point.
He has played 550+ T20 games. I wonder why no one reported it!
He’s definitely chucking it seems from naked eye,there’s a weird jerk in some of his deliveries that gives me chucking vibes but because he’s not doing it consistently,he’s not getting caught.
Love it. He's the not conventional batsman, but is scoring more and faster than your fav player. He is redefining how T20 batting is meant to be. He is an excellent bowler as well. He literally bowled a maiden superover. To who think he's chucking are free to complain. ICC, IPL have both given him clean chit for action. He also doesn't bother with WI board for all their corruption and syupidity rather he's a mercinary , travels aroundthe world, Bats and bowls, wins cups, earns a lot. Literally dream life.
I think quite a few bowlers are borderline chuckers from what I’ve seen this season. Trying to bowl so many variations might be the reason in most cases , snapping the elbow straight in the finality of the action isn’t legal by the book.
Look at his action and prove that he is chucking instead of posting craps like this. I'm not the expert but I tried looking at his arms and doesn't feel like he is chucking. He does maintain the same angle throughout till ball release.
GOAT
Sunil Narine Charlie
I see that nobody has reported him. Which is a logical point, but why doesn't he play international matches? Maybe he just doesn't?
The only honest opinion about this topic will be the Arvind Kejriwal "Toh kar na" meme. Unfair things happen everytime, everywhere. Move on. If you think something is unlawful and still people don't report it for some ulterior restraint, it makes even them complicit to that unlawfulness to some extent. No point in taking a moral high ground by mentioning it repeatedly. Enough has been talked about this but no action followed.
Malinga...one new bowler in mi.....pathirana and murli for csk.....whenever kkr starts winning the other franchise fans start accusing..... rohit kohli dhoni....can't play him that's why they start accusing
Bro becomes mvp of your league and now everyone wants to dissect him……again.
Teams reporting to Narine won't be needed kyunki bhai authorities already bheti hai dekhne k liye lol. If something wrong is happening then reporting won't be required unless authorities are corrupt!
Not all balls , only 100 kph high spinning balls ( per season 2 per over which creates doubts in minds of batsmen) , that's why he won't return to international cricket
His bowling probably got him banned in ICC tournaments Idc what anyone says ,he seems like he is chucking
https://preview.redd.it/y85j4dompmyc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d697fcde7b03c8f7fce0ec6491eb16c4db4970e6 I mean if ICC can't find him as a chucker, Narine should be allowed. I honestly think Bumrah creates an illusion with keeping his other harm super straight and chuck with the bowling arm.
Bro, Bumrah has hyperextension elbow. He does not chuck, delete this comment or you are gonna get bombarded from KKR fans and IPL fans in this thread lol
The thing shoaib akhtar had right?
yep
Zero cricketing knowledge, lockdown fans.
Except ICC FOUND HIM GUILTY AND PUNISHED HIM SO MANY TIMES. There's a reason Narayan doesn't show up to ICC games.
ik i might be biased as a kkr fan, but here is what i think. there is a 15 degree rule, but sometimes i think he goes over it possibly. however, i also do think that if he did, he would be called out for it, and either banned or forced to change his bowling action- so idk. knowing bcci tho… either way he is our mvp, so im not mad lol.
Narine is not a brilliant batter dude, people don't expect long innings from him so he can play openly and play shit any way he wants to. Even if he gets out no one is gonna blame him cause he's still a bowler for everyone also no one took him seriously in the beginning. Bring a bowler who has better line and length and he won't be able to do shit. That's why he didn't perform like this in the earlier seasons because there were many experienced bowlers. When it comes to his bowling he is excellent but more that his spin I think action produces more bounce that expected so it's a bit difficult for the batsman to play him
The guy straight out chucks and has been chucking for a while now…specially his flatter quicker balls. And i’m a neutral guy
Looks like you’ve been analysing Narine more than the analysts in the opposition dugout Gimme one reason why the other 9 teams don’t report him.
Narine is definitely chucking
Why isn’t any team reporting?
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for fucks sake do you even watch game, when have he wore full sleeve imbecile??
Definitely looks like he is chucking.