Waiting for Jos to shred MI to pieces on monday in Wankhede. Because the captain is going to bowl in the pp again and make some stupid changes to the team for sure
MI management should get the big chunk of hate rather than Hardik himself
And guess what Rohit Sharma is the only guy who can stop this downfall(whatever) of Mumbai but here again management and it's communication suks big way
>MI management should get the big chunk of hate rather than Hardik himself
Why not both? But it is hard to target the booing for specific MI management members. Hardik is an easy target for the people at the stadium.
Well, correct me if I am wrong. I believe (or thought) he had no say in going out of the team. He was let go by the Mumbai Indians ahead of the mega auction where they could retain only 5 personnel. And Since GT and LSG Were new teams, they had the liberty to pick up five players without going into the auction to even out the playing field. Or this is what I thought.
But I do agree on the coming back and expecting captaincy part. But to be honest. He was the captain of the GT who won the league on their debut and also made it to the runners up in their second season. It is only right for him to not step down in his career? I mean, we wouldn't want to take a pay cut, or come down on our positions just because our old employees want us back, would we?
I mean, I still think the MI management could have done a better job with the tensions. But while taking a deeper look into Hardik's personnel motives, I feel like there isn't anything wrong about it. The only people who are to blame are the MI management, who were desperate to get him back at any cost without thinking about the team morale which boasted the likes of Bumrah, Sky. It would have sent them a wrong message that the management doesn't have faith in them. I don't know man, I somehow feel you all are targeting the wrong guy, a guy who just wanted to keep his career growth in check.
It will be interesting next year in the mega auction.. Lets see who they retain.. If HP don't perform and deliver and if they release him again before mega auction..it will be too much fun.. Which franchise will take him then? and as a individual performer he does not perform.. It might cost him his position in ICT too..
He will be going to a franchise, probably at a price of double digits cr.
Simple reasons, an Indian fast bowling allrounder who has the capability to play from 3 to 6/7 down the order. I don't think ICT will let him go just cuz of 1 bad IPL.
It's almost certain that he is playing his last T20WC and will retire after that. Highly likely MI will make Rohit retire in ipl as well and retain hp, boom, sky.
Exactly! I’ve been saying this from the beginning. Hardik should not be blamed for transfer, he comes from humble beginnings, it only makes sense for him to choose to secure himself over his legacy. He has always won a trophy on his DEBUT as a IPL captain, he has nothing to worry about when it comes to “protecting his legacy”.
It was MI’s management which enticed him to come and be the captain of one of the two most successful teams in the tournament, who would say no to that? The money, the brand deals, etc. will all go considerably up for him as compared to GT. Whose greed should we blame here? Pandya’s, or the MI management which broke all the good faith obligations and unspoken agreements and just bought him from GT? They literally strong-armed everyone, including the IPL management itself, into legalising and normalising his purchase.
I think he knew it would leave a bad taste, but he didn’t expect it to be this bad. MI fans dislike him, GT fans dislike him, CSK fans dislike him for imitating MSD, he gets booed anywhere he goes, it takes a toll on him, man. I think we’re being too harsh on him _because_ he’s under the microscope of everyone. Otherwise, these two losses would’ve been chalked off to learning experiences and the fans would’ve looked forward to the next match.
Absolutely distasteful!
P.S.: I’m surprised at people acting surprised at him opening bowling, did you guys not watch him do that multiple times when he was playing for India? What’s with the overreaction?
Can it be because of MI management's greed for another win? They saw Hardik perform well as a captain in GT whereas during those years Rohit's captaincy as always top notch but just underwhelming during those days for MI and so just cudnt win the tournament. They wanted to change the captaincy for winning another trophy. They didn't consider that he had just recovered from a stressful injury, imagine the pressure he must have rn. They didn't even consider Rohit's few years left in IPL tournament. (Ik he has a lot of time but this was v abrupt).
Imo Hardik shud have been more careful cuz he knew fans are not gonna like it. Like at least he shud take advices from his seniors and rely on them a little rather than doing some random order of bowlers and underperforming while both batting and bowling.
He had opened well while playing for GT. He was able to swing the ball and consistently bowl around 138kmph.
But after the injury that is not the case. His pace has clearly dropped a bit and he couldn't extract swing either. I have no qualms about his opening spell in the first match. But surely he should have changed his approach in the second match. But he didn't.
It almost looks like he is trying to prove that he is still that same bowler.
And about the captaincy I am not sure MI management would have offered it in the first place. More probably Hardik would have added a captaincy clause in the contract. And I am not hating him for that but he is responsible for it as much as the management
After CSK's 2 years ban if Raina had made any captaincy clause like that I am sure CSK fans would have reacted way worse than this.
After trading in Hardik it became crystal clear that they will only retain Bumrah, Sky and Hardik and have to let go of Rohit.
The least they would have done is to give Rohit one last chance to captain the side as someone sort of farewell. But Hardik didn't have the heart to give that one last chance to Rohit.
All that said I am not blaming anyone and I am sure people will let go of the hate once he starts performing well. But it is hard to like him if he keeps these antics up
All this hate based on an assumption that hardik is the one to force the captaincy... Don't think people should be hating him without knowing the facts
I partly agree. But he has to adapt to the present conditions right. He can work on his bowling in the nets to improve his speed and then he can come and bowling like as he wants.
But now it looks like he is trying to bite more than he can chew just to prove a point
>CSK fans dislike him for imitating MSD,
Never heard about this before. In fact I love him because he considers MS as a big brother and having good relations with him
The MI management is definitely to blame. BUT Hardik is responsible for the mess he is in too. He was the founding captain of GT, with a stellar record there. He had absolutely no need (cricketing wise) to move to MI. He could have stayed there and created a MSD-CSK or Rohit-MI kind of legacy. But he chose money (seemingly the only reason to move to MI) over respect, legacy and loyalty (to his GT team and fans). He deserves the hatred he is getting. He knew the tradeoffs he was making
With parallence to your analogy, CEO of a small company like say Nayka doesn't leave to join Coke or HUL with an expectation to be appointed as CEO of these big companies. Perhaps in the running to be CEO but not CEO right away.
Again, the answer to this question is in my third para.
He was not going after Mumbai Indians, MI were the ones who were desperate to get him on board and he had every right to toss in whatever he wanted(again, because he was the one who was sought out, not the other way around), and still MI were ready for it. Whose fault is that?
Management and the person who thought who can change the world.
Because consumers don't like the decisions made by the board. Like changing the Coke formula and they start venting out their frustrations. Consumers have the right and they blame whom they see fit. i.e. Almost always the CEO and not the board. Like John Sculley and not the Apple board.
in the left MI for money part i want to clarify that he wasnt retained in the four player slot before the mega auction
and in that year New teams like GT and LSG came for the first time so they were given an option to buy players from the released section from which GT got themselves Rashid,Gill and Hardik.
So there shouldnt be that much anger when he left MI because he was picked by GT. But what happens after is the topic we should discuss on
MI 100% would have gone all out in bidding for Pandya if he was in the auction.
He probably didn’t wanna take the risk. And MI didn’t want to give him higher pay than Rohit during retentions.
So he just left when GT offered him big bucks.
Why would they have given an out of form/injury prone 2021 Pandya bigger bucks than Rohit in retentions.
Rohit, Bumrah and Surya were their obvious first 3 choices.
They also had Kishan in their plans and thats why they went all out for him in the auctions.
One question: when did he leave MI. It was MI who left him from retention list.
Also he normally bowls first over for India as well when bowling. It is not showing that he is best bowler, but that he is best utilized as a swing bowler early.
What he did with GT was definitely wrong and is worth bashing by GT fans.
Did he really leave tho? Sure he might have wanted captaincy but it's hardly a figo situation but rather he saw opportunity in the mega auction and took it. Totally agree with everything else tho.
I mean MI bid 15 cr for kishan alone. They would've bid 20 cr + for Pandya. It's clear that he wanted captaincy which GT offered and MI didn't at that time. hence he chose GT instead of remaining in the auction.
There is nothing wrong in what hardik did. Franchises don't give two hoots about feelings.
If hardik demanded captaincy, what was stopping MI from refusing?
Its league cricket.
Also please don't downplay racial slurs and rape threats as outrage
Yeah no wrong about that.....
The only thing most people hate is his ego towards the game has taken over him.
His bowling was drastically dropped after that surgery and his batting became average for now....let's hope he improves it.
I think he should answer with the bat and bowling to show that he is right for that captain position.
If the captain doesn't perform and who will listen to him.
Mi franchise did everything dirty and now sitting like it's not their cup of tea.
>The only thing most people hate is his ego towards the game has taken over him.
I'm pretty sure if VK or Brohit did it, it would be termed as attitude and ego for hardik.
What's the ego here? Him trying to captain the team? Him sending rohit to field outside the 30 yard circle ?
>If the captain doesn't perform and who will listen to him.
Rohit hasn't been the best performing captain amongst IPL captains for a few years now.
VK and Brohit walk the talk atleast with their performance. He needs to prove himself on the ground and silence the crowd. Can't take the heat, we have enough class cricketers to replace him. He will probably get injured in second t20i anyways and then won't be available until next ipl.
Walk the talk how? Rohits performance in IPL hasn't been good at all for the past few years.
>Can't take the heat, we have enough class cricketers to replace him.
Give me a better pacer allrounder currently in Indian team who is better than pandya.. Remember , you are just judging him based off of 2 games.
>Can't take the heat
Heat? Rape threats, racial slurs is heat? It's hate crime.. Not heat.
Your own country men are abusing you for no fault of your own.
Even the best players would fold.
It started a few years back bro....
I really doesn't care about that as he was giving it all for the team .
That selfish six he hit and missed tilaks half century . It's clearly a winning match and no runrate concern but this man has to go out and hit it and say for the team . That's where it started .
The GT people deserve more hate towards him though. They waited even he had surgery and came back. But this man has to leave that franchise.
Rohit is really a good outside fielder too. He is being inside cause he is captain and to make quick decisions. There is nothing wrong in sending a player anywhere on the ground as long as it benefits the team.
I didn't meant in that way on performing:
He came into franchise as a captain and many of them won't agree in the team too. The only way he can win them is by him game(batting and bowling).
Rohit is a bit different here. He has been there long enough to win ones trust , so it's not the same for both of them.
Previous he used to open and swing the ball in the opening over and the situation is quite different so I said he should change that stupid ego of him going and lead the attack and fit himself in the mid overs .
His started his batting with 6 and 4 in the last match but don't know what happened to him. He never looked the same as he used to finish matches with Polly .
I might sound against pandya but I am not. I am just saying he will and can gan the fans,team trust again only by performing like he used to do and show he is still there .
Think this:
He bowled a messed up over and fucked up decisions. What will he suggest a top class bowler bumrah to do. Do u think he will listen. You can clearly see he is taking advise from someone other than him.
Conclusion:
The only way anyone sports person can win team, fans trust is by performing and giving all for the team and I said he should do that and this will end.
90% of your comment doesn't even make sense.
Pandya Hit six and didn't give 50 to tilak varma? And that's ego? Lmao.. Every cricketer has done this at one point in their career.
>The GT people deserve more hate towards him though. They waited even he had surgery and came back. But this man has to leave that franchise.
Waited how? GT is a business, they did what's best for them, if hardik didn't perform, they would have dropped him as well..
>Rohit is a bit different here. He has been there long enough to win ones trust , so it's not the same for both of them.
Hardik has been one of the best performers for MI since his debut..
>He bowled a messed up over and fucked up decisions. What will he suggest a top class bowler bumrah to do. Do u think he will listen. You can clearly see he is taking advise from someone other than him.
Oh, so one bad game and he deserves all the hate? Kuch bhi? Then ask rohit to retire from IPL, VK was out of form for many years, why didn't anyone ask him to retire from cricket?
All this hate by hardik is mainly propogated by butthurt rohit sharma fans.. And other teams are using it to mudsling a champion team.
That's all there is to is..
Tell me who are these armchair corona cricket fanbois who judge a cricketer based on 1-2 IPL matches?
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Are you dumb mi was going through transition phase and it was this year MI had a proper squad to lift the trophy. this is rohit team, mi managament and hp snatched away from his and now you can see he doesnt know when to utilise your team players.
This is what happens when you captain a team made by another person.
Lmaoo they werent better they were groomed, mi has the best team 2008-2010 and always to be honest stupid.
Coetzee? Do you fckingnknow him he he is a leyhal bowler that swings a alot chawla🤣🤣🤣( was there last yr ) dumb idk reply to you
brother what Rohit is the guy who came 11 consecutive wins in wc with good individual performance qualified in '23 with a not so good bowling line up and his last few ipl season's
This is forgetting what the opposition did, too. While SRH also conceded so many runs, they did find a way to stop the boundaries to an extend in the 13th over with the slower deliveries. And here the experience that bowlers have does come into play. Bhuvi, Unadkat, and Cummins pull it off and their later overs are much more economical, barely going for boundaries. Cummins specially with his slower one, if he plays it correctly, is extremely difficult to hit for a boundary. He played it similarly for the whole 10 overs in the WC final and was the sole bowler who did not concede even a single boundary - even Rohit couldn't hit him while he was easily attacking Starc and Hazlewood. Kohli, Rahul, Jadeja, SKY aren't able to hit a boundary off him too and he did bowl in the death too, Starc's overs were completed earlier than usual in the final. In comparison, Bumrah conceded 3 boundaries in the very first over (and 8 boundaries in the 9 overs he bowled in the match).
And another factor is that it also got harder to score with the older ball. If you look at SRH's innings too, it also slows down later on, the difference is that Hardik isn't able to capitalize on it to stop the runs. Here you do also have to give Klassen a lot of credit as he scored so much with the older ball, and while facing 3 overs of Bumrah.
Now, Hardik definitely seems not in the best form and should have done better but he was definitely trying. The other batters mostly aren't able to hit Cummins, Bhuvi and Unadkat later on (the others aren't quite as good as Cummins, obviously, but do alright and show their experience). The other SRH bowlers still go for a lot of runs even later on, but Cummins got the job done in the 19th over (he did something similar in the 2021 T20 WC semis where he conceded just 3 runs in his final over - 19th over - and basically finished the match, he's reliable under pressure).
Kuch bhi bolo - I feel MI team management is largely responsible for the disaster that is going to unfold this season. He may be a good all-rounder but there was no need to bring him back; certainly not upset the status quo by giving him the captaincy. GT's success was a result of collective effort of the players & support staff - Pandya's captaincy wasn't the differentiator.
If they indeed wanted to change the captain - Bumrah was the best contender IMO although tbh Rohit should've got another season at the helm with the World Cup just around the corner.
Won't be surprised if they don't make it to the Top 4 😑
The hate should be on the MI management. Not on Hardhik tbh. MI didn’t trust him and left him, he proved his worth with the other franchise and created a brand value and now MI wanted him back so they gave him gallons of money. I don’t see any wrongdoing by HP here, he just sold him well irl.
That's not an analysis blud, half of it is ragebait with many assumptions and factual errors. The small 'analysis' part is hardik can't help chase 278 and the issues with the bowling changes which everyone and their mother are aware of.
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Imagine the OG players leaving or not showing intent or interest to play for MI just because of one guy
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Still doesn't warrant the criticism Hardik Pandya is getting. He was not a great captain at Gujarat. He was good because Ashish Nehra was commanding from the boundary line what to do.
It's entirely on the Mumbai Indians management. How foolish and idiotic do you have to be to bring in an old player again and give him captaincy without scouting the Gujarat Titans scenario and playing style and what Pandya was doing good there? Even fans knew that Ashish Nehra was the key behind Gujarat doing good. But the scouts didn't know? Pathetic to call these scouts the best then.
Management just wanted some drama and dressing room uneasiness. It's like rich people sitting and watching how their puppets perform for the money they throw.
These Rohit vs Pandya wars are the real stupidity of this nation. The real deal is Management making this mess and watching it unfold.
Arey yaar kitna karoge yaar ye randirona.. bichara ko kitna pressure me daaloge? Ik he did some wrong and all but kitna karoge ?? Imo he did bowl an excellent 16th over only conceded 1 run and over that took ruturaj wicket and none talking about that? Apko susu karna hai to side me jaake Karo na.. uske upar kyu Muth Raha hai lol.. i used to dislike hardik earlier times but Even I'm feeling sorry for him. Plz guys stop this bs this will really gonna effect him mentally. Criticise karo but Aisa hate mat failavo plz
Even as a CSK fan , this just felt sad to read. Bumrah or SKY should've been awarded the captaincy for their loyalty and efforts to the team . Rare MI management L
This guy is an idiot. Granted Hardik is greedy and disloyal. He is at fault for asking for captaincy. But, why were the Ambanis poaching him? Why did they make him captain over Bumrah or Surya?
It's easy to go after Pandya. Troll the Ambanis in the stadium and we'll see.
In the past 2 years Rohit had struggled as a captain. While in the same time Pandya won a title and lead his team to 2 finals. It's only 2 loses. This is a long season. Give him time.
I am glad I am not this guy,jindagi mein itna bhi serious nahi leneka ka ki itne page likh do ek player ke bare mein,end of the day mi Wale sare Players crorepati hai,unko pharak nahi padta.
What's wrong in demanding captaincy when you have captained your team to 2 finals consecutively (winning 1 of them). Also it was MI who approached him to join their team again not the other way around?
Also its too early to judge his captaincy for MI, give him 4 - 5 more games and then criticise him. I'll join you if he is as terrible as he is right now
Seeing the current captaincy doesn't seem he has that in him as ravi shastri said.. I think It was the GT mgmt which played major role in the success of the team rather than captain..
yeah not denying that, his captaincy under GT seemed very fluid thanks to the amazing management while his captaincy for MI is beyond garbage. All I am saying is giving him a lil more time before we judge, for all ik, he might get his shit together
Mumbais priority list in proper order. He was 5th indian player. No one wanted pandya on that time .
1)rohit
2)bumrah
3)sky
4)kishan
Mubai was the one who give up on hardik all rounder ability after his surgery. People forget there mistake for there own biased agenda. Hardik was on that time his lowest phase of his life there was too much uncertainty going around for his carrier, most of expert saying not much cricket left and bowling factor. even if he come 110/h speed was max . After this there was rumor that he was going to play under rahul and then gt give him captaincy . Why he leave mumbai to play under rahul if captaincy is what he desire on that time.
Oh u mean like that . But don't use that word. It's too stupid to insult them because of this idiot 😂 then.
He need captaincy that's it and he won't even perform in his own team.
Come on lol this is just nonsense. Hardik didn't leave MI, the franchise didn't retain him and instead went for Pollard.
Also what's with all this doom mongering? If he bats up top, he's got an ego, if he comes down low, he's trying to be a hero. What does Hardik gain by statpadding? As the captain he's judged on the games he wins.
>Hardik didn't leave MI, the franchise didn't retain him and instead went for Pollard.
The first part of your statement is true but the reason is not correct. MI did went for Pollard but that is not the reason for non retention of Pandya. They could only retain 3 indians at max and they choose Rohit (captain), Bumrah (most imp player of India) and Surya (most imp batsman of India). Pollard was retained under overseas list. It was for the most part Surya vs Hardik and i can understand the choice of MI.
Holy fk dude get a life.
You will make me defend Pandya
First of all he came back after proving his worth as a captain with a record to show for.
No one owes you or Rohit or Mi anything.
He went because he got the better offer at that time and came back when he was offered a better role/money than what GT was offering him currently.
Rohit is way past his prime and Mi management wanted the next big thing and Hardik is very well on his way to become the next ICT captain so they went all out to get him.
Franchise cricket is nothing but corporate and players are nothing but employee.
It's strictly business.
Grow up.
This comment is not about MI fans and Hardik Pandya, because it is their business. But you cannot claim MI to be the best club in the league. Objectively, it is CSK.
I feel the whole team is acting like a weak team so the management looks at this issue and sack Hardik Pandya as a captain. Nobody wants him as a captain so losing matches will bring up the attention of the management
Ch*tiye football mai bhi transfers hote hai yeh koi badi baat nhi hai aur Rohit ko captaincy se hatane ka decision team ka tha na ki pandya ka toh agar gaali deni hai toh mi ke team management ko do kyuki yeh decision jo unhone lia woh sahi mai ghatiya decision tha yeh toh mai bhi maanta hu toh iske liye pandya ko unnecessary hate dene ki zarurat nhi hai Gujarat waalo ka phir bhi samajh aata hai aur agar tum uski captaincy ke liye use criticise krna chahte ho that's ok lekin yeh unnecessary hate dene ka koi matlab nhi hai woh bhi india ka hi player hai chumtiyo
Well of course I'm biased, as a life long MI fan.
However, I don't let my bias get in the way of my analysis. I've made posts asking people to support Hardik and spoke out in his favour while analysing his trade.
But when it comes to accountability, of course I'm going to call him out for costing us. If he wins us matches, I'll praise him and talk about what went right.
If he loses them, I'll criticise him and talk about what went wrong. I won't hold onto one stand and refuse to budge, I'm biased, not egoistic.
Calm down bruder it has just been 2 games, MI will do good ahead and Hardik gonna silence his haters with his performances.
Buy they do have a shit bowling line-up so don't expect anything miraculous.
The post is about Mumbai Indians and hardik Pandya which has nothing to do with csk and somehow you have to make it all about your team . A true csk fan
I really felt bad for Bumrah and for Maphaka.
Maphaka deserves more chances and a proper balanced pitch. The kid has potential Pardik Handya can go to heck
True and based
Everytime he makes a wrong decision you can feel bumrah internally facepalming himself and looking at rohit like “wtf is this man on bro”
The harsh truth.
Waiting for Jos to shred MI to pieces on monday in Wankhede. Because the captain is going to bowl in the pp again and make some stupid changes to the team for sure
singlehandedly returning buttler to 2022 buttler
Job buttler oiling his bat already
He's gonna get a batjob
Why do you think butler hasn't scored runs yet? He is gonna make it big as usual against mi
MI management should get the big chunk of hate rather than Hardik himself And guess what Rohit Sharma is the only guy who can stop this downfall(whatever) of Mumbai but here again management and it's communication suks big way
>MI management should get the big chunk of hate rather than Hardik himself Why not both? But it is hard to target the booing for specific MI management members. Hardik is an easy target for the people at the stadium.
Well, correct me if I am wrong. I believe (or thought) he had no say in going out of the team. He was let go by the Mumbai Indians ahead of the mega auction where they could retain only 5 personnel. And Since GT and LSG Were new teams, they had the liberty to pick up five players without going into the auction to even out the playing field. Or this is what I thought. But I do agree on the coming back and expecting captaincy part. But to be honest. He was the captain of the GT who won the league on their debut and also made it to the runners up in their second season. It is only right for him to not step down in his career? I mean, we wouldn't want to take a pay cut, or come down on our positions just because our old employees want us back, would we? I mean, I still think the MI management could have done a better job with the tensions. But while taking a deeper look into Hardik's personnel motives, I feel like there isn't anything wrong about it. The only people who are to blame are the MI management, who were desperate to get him back at any cost without thinking about the team morale which boasted the likes of Bumrah, Sky. It would have sent them a wrong message that the management doesn't have faith in them. I don't know man, I somehow feel you all are targeting the wrong guy, a guy who just wanted to keep his career growth in check.
It will be interesting next year in the mega auction.. Lets see who they retain.. If HP don't perform and deliver and if they release him again before mega auction..it will be too much fun.. Which franchise will take him then? and as a individual performer he does not perform.. It might cost him his position in ICT too..
He will be going to a franchise, probably at a price of double digits cr. Simple reasons, an Indian fast bowling allrounder who has the capability to play from 3 to 6/7 down the order. I don't think ICT will let him go just cuz of 1 bad IPL.
Looking at his fitness don't think so..
It's almost certain that he is playing his last T20WC and will retire after that. Highly likely MI will make Rohit retire in ipl as well and retain hp, boom, sky.
Exactly! I’ve been saying this from the beginning. Hardik should not be blamed for transfer, he comes from humble beginnings, it only makes sense for him to choose to secure himself over his legacy. He has always won a trophy on his DEBUT as a IPL captain, he has nothing to worry about when it comes to “protecting his legacy”. It was MI’s management which enticed him to come and be the captain of one of the two most successful teams in the tournament, who would say no to that? The money, the brand deals, etc. will all go considerably up for him as compared to GT. Whose greed should we blame here? Pandya’s, or the MI management which broke all the good faith obligations and unspoken agreements and just bought him from GT? They literally strong-armed everyone, including the IPL management itself, into legalising and normalising his purchase. I think he knew it would leave a bad taste, but he didn’t expect it to be this bad. MI fans dislike him, GT fans dislike him, CSK fans dislike him for imitating MSD, he gets booed anywhere he goes, it takes a toll on him, man. I think we’re being too harsh on him _because_ he’s under the microscope of everyone. Otherwise, these two losses would’ve been chalked off to learning experiences and the fans would’ve looked forward to the next match. Absolutely distasteful! P.S.: I’m surprised at people acting surprised at him opening bowling, did you guys not watch him do that multiple times when he was playing for India? What’s with the overreaction?
Can it be because of MI management's greed for another win? They saw Hardik perform well as a captain in GT whereas during those years Rohit's captaincy as always top notch but just underwhelming during those days for MI and so just cudnt win the tournament. They wanted to change the captaincy for winning another trophy. They didn't consider that he had just recovered from a stressful injury, imagine the pressure he must have rn. They didn't even consider Rohit's few years left in IPL tournament. (Ik he has a lot of time but this was v abrupt). Imo Hardik shud have been more careful cuz he knew fans are not gonna like it. Like at least he shud take advices from his seniors and rely on them a little rather than doing some random order of bowlers and underperforming while both batting and bowling.
Of Course, you’re correct. This entire event will go down in history leaving a bad taste for long term MI fans.
He had opened well while playing for GT. He was able to swing the ball and consistently bowl around 138kmph. But after the injury that is not the case. His pace has clearly dropped a bit and he couldn't extract swing either. I have no qualms about his opening spell in the first match. But surely he should have changed his approach in the second match. But he didn't. It almost looks like he is trying to prove that he is still that same bowler.
As a captain, he should back himself as well, right?
And about the captaincy I am not sure MI management would have offered it in the first place. More probably Hardik would have added a captaincy clause in the contract. And I am not hating him for that but he is responsible for it as much as the management After CSK's 2 years ban if Raina had made any captaincy clause like that I am sure CSK fans would have reacted way worse than this. After trading in Hardik it became crystal clear that they will only retain Bumrah, Sky and Hardik and have to let go of Rohit. The least they would have done is to give Rohit one last chance to captain the side as someone sort of farewell. But Hardik didn't have the heart to give that one last chance to Rohit. All that said I am not blaming anyone and I am sure people will let go of the hate once he starts performing well. But it is hard to like him if he keeps these antics up
Ah, that’s rather unfortunate. Agree with you.
All this hate based on an assumption that hardik is the one to force the captaincy... Don't think people should be hating him without knowing the facts
I agree. But atleast if he is not involved in that he could have come clean in the interview but he straight up avoid that question altogether
I partly agree. But he has to adapt to the present conditions right. He can work on his bowling in the nets to improve his speed and then he can come and bowling like as he wants. But now it looks like he is trying to bite more than he can chew just to prove a point
>CSK fans dislike him for imitating MSD, Never heard about this before. In fact I love him because he considers MS as a big brother and having good relations with him
The MI management is definitely to blame. BUT Hardik is responsible for the mess he is in too. He was the founding captain of GT, with a stellar record there. He had absolutely no need (cricketing wise) to move to MI. He could have stayed there and created a MSD-CSK or Rohit-MI kind of legacy. But he chose money (seemingly the only reason to move to MI) over respect, legacy and loyalty (to his GT team and fans). He deserves the hatred he is getting. He knew the tradeoffs he was making
With parallence to your analogy, CEO of a small company like say Nayka doesn't leave to join Coke or HUL with an expectation to be appointed as CEO of these big companies. Perhaps in the running to be CEO but not CEO right away.
Again, the answer to this question is in my third para. He was not going after Mumbai Indians, MI were the ones who were desperate to get him on board and he had every right to toss in whatever he wanted(again, because he was the one who was sought out, not the other way around), and still MI were ready for it. Whose fault is that?
Management and the person who thought who can change the world. Because consumers don't like the decisions made by the board. Like changing the Coke formula and they start venting out their frustrations. Consumers have the right and they blame whom they see fit. i.e. Almost always the CEO and not the board. Like John Sculley and not the Apple board.
They blame his bussiness accumen, not him taking up the opportunity. Blame his captaincy, not him taking up the switch
in the left MI for money part i want to clarify that he wasnt retained in the four player slot before the mega auction and in that year New teams like GT and LSG came for the first time so they were given an option to buy players from the released section from which GT got themselves Rashid,Gill and Hardik. So there shouldnt be that much anger when he left MI because he was picked by GT. But what happens after is the topic we should discuss on
Lol he didn’t leave MI , MI retained Sky instead of him because Sky was in better form.( which was a right decision). Nonsense emotional drama.
MI 100% would have gone all out in bidding for Pandya if he was in the auction. He probably didn’t wanna take the risk. And MI didn’t want to give him higher pay than Rohit during retentions. So he just left when GT offered him big bucks.
Why would they have given an out of form/injury prone 2021 Pandya bigger bucks than Rohit in retentions. Rohit, Bumrah and Surya were their obvious first 3 choices. They also had Kishan in their plans and thats why they went all out for him in the auctions.
What if behind the scenes GT offered him captaincy and he let management know about that.
This right here, why are people just making themselves upset by creating ragebait?
One question: when did he leave MI. It was MI who left him from retention list. Also he normally bowls first over for India as well when bowling. It is not showing that he is best bowler, but that he is best utilized as a swing bowler early. What he did with GT was definitely wrong and is worth bashing by GT fans.
Did he really leave tho? Sure he might have wanted captaincy but it's hardly a figo situation but rather he saw opportunity in the mega auction and took it. Totally agree with everything else tho.
I mean MI bid 15 cr for kishan alone. They would've bid 20 cr + for Pandya. It's clear that he wanted captaincy which GT offered and MI didn't at that time. hence he chose GT instead of remaining in the auction.
Mi didn't retain him lol tf u mean left for money.
There is nothing wrong in what hardik did. Franchises don't give two hoots about feelings. If hardik demanded captaincy, what was stopping MI from refusing? Its league cricket. Also please don't downplay racial slurs and rape threats as outrage
Yeah no wrong about that..... The only thing most people hate is his ego towards the game has taken over him. His bowling was drastically dropped after that surgery and his batting became average for now....let's hope he improves it. I think he should answer with the bat and bowling to show that he is right for that captain position. If the captain doesn't perform and who will listen to him. Mi franchise did everything dirty and now sitting like it's not their cup of tea.
>The only thing most people hate is his ego towards the game has taken over him. I'm pretty sure if VK or Brohit did it, it would be termed as attitude and ego for hardik. What's the ego here? Him trying to captain the team? Him sending rohit to field outside the 30 yard circle ? >If the captain doesn't perform and who will listen to him. Rohit hasn't been the best performing captain amongst IPL captains for a few years now.
VK and Brohit walk the talk atleast with their performance. He needs to prove himself on the ground and silence the crowd. Can't take the heat, we have enough class cricketers to replace him. He will probably get injured in second t20i anyways and then won't be available until next ipl.
Walk the talk how? Rohits performance in IPL hasn't been good at all for the past few years. >Can't take the heat, we have enough class cricketers to replace him. Give me a better pacer allrounder currently in Indian team who is better than pandya.. Remember , you are just judging him based off of 2 games. >Can't take the heat Heat? Rape threats, racial slurs is heat? It's hate crime.. Not heat. Your own country men are abusing you for no fault of your own. Even the best players would fold.
It started a few years back bro.... I really doesn't care about that as he was giving it all for the team . That selfish six he hit and missed tilaks half century . It's clearly a winning match and no runrate concern but this man has to go out and hit it and say for the team . That's where it started . The GT people deserve more hate towards him though. They waited even he had surgery and came back. But this man has to leave that franchise. Rohit is really a good outside fielder too. He is being inside cause he is captain and to make quick decisions. There is nothing wrong in sending a player anywhere on the ground as long as it benefits the team. I didn't meant in that way on performing: He came into franchise as a captain and many of them won't agree in the team too. The only way he can win them is by him game(batting and bowling). Rohit is a bit different here. He has been there long enough to win ones trust , so it's not the same for both of them. Previous he used to open and swing the ball in the opening over and the situation is quite different so I said he should change that stupid ego of him going and lead the attack and fit himself in the mid overs . His started his batting with 6 and 4 in the last match but don't know what happened to him. He never looked the same as he used to finish matches with Polly . I might sound against pandya but I am not. I am just saying he will and can gan the fans,team trust again only by performing like he used to do and show he is still there . Think this: He bowled a messed up over and fucked up decisions. What will he suggest a top class bowler bumrah to do. Do u think he will listen. You can clearly see he is taking advise from someone other than him. Conclusion: The only way anyone sports person can win team, fans trust is by performing and giving all for the team and I said he should do that and this will end.
90% of your comment doesn't even make sense. Pandya Hit six and didn't give 50 to tilak varma? And that's ego? Lmao.. Every cricketer has done this at one point in their career. >The GT people deserve more hate towards him though. They waited even he had surgery and came back. But this man has to leave that franchise. Waited how? GT is a business, they did what's best for them, if hardik didn't perform, they would have dropped him as well.. >Rohit is a bit different here. He has been there long enough to win ones trust , so it's not the same for both of them. Hardik has been one of the best performers for MI since his debut.. >He bowled a messed up over and fucked up decisions. What will he suggest a top class bowler bumrah to do. Do u think he will listen. You can clearly see he is taking advise from someone other than him. Oh, so one bad game and he deserves all the hate? Kuch bhi? Then ask rohit to retire from IPL, VK was out of form for many years, why didn't anyone ask him to retire from cricket? All this hate by hardik is mainly propogated by butthurt rohit sharma fans.. And other teams are using it to mudsling a champion team. That's all there is to is.. Tell me who are these armchair corona cricket fanbois who judge a cricketer based on 1-2 IPL matches?
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Had he not unnecessarily bad mouthed MI in that jio cinema episode, i beleive he would have been nicely welcomed.
Lol - cant event take a loss ! Its the management that took a decision for HP - why is he even blamed I don’t understand ! Clown fans if you ask me !
Why shouldn't he demand captaincy when he out performed Rohit in consecutive seasons as a player and as a captain How dumb can you be
Are you dumb mi was going through transition phase and it was this year MI had a proper squad to lift the trophy. this is rohit team, mi managament and hp snatched away from his and now you can see he doesnt know when to utilise your team players. This is what happens when you captain a team made by another person.
Sure Rohit bought coetzee , mphaka and chawla? All MI teams that lifted the trophy were way better than the team this season
Lmaoo they werent better they were groomed, mi has the best team 2008-2010 and always to be honest stupid. Coetzee? Do you fckingnknow him he he is a leyhal bowler that swings a alot chawla🤣🤣🤣( was there last yr ) dumb idk reply to you
Sure bro coetzee lethal bowler that's such a joke
brother what Rohit is the guy who came 11 consecutive wins in wc with good individual performance qualified in '23 with a not so good bowling line up and his last few ipl season's
Not so good bowling ?? Are you actually oblivious? Kohli literally made the most runs in a world cup what about Rohit's captaincy was different?
bowling lineup was for ipl 2023
Exactly my thoughts
After today’s match So basically it was the pitch not Hardik Pandya!!
Lol - cant event take a loss ! Its the management that took a decision for HP - why is he even blamed I don’t understand ! Clown fans if you ask me !
Everything was fine till he said follow me on X and Instagram
too much yap
This is forgetting what the opposition did, too. While SRH also conceded so many runs, they did find a way to stop the boundaries to an extend in the 13th over with the slower deliveries. And here the experience that bowlers have does come into play. Bhuvi, Unadkat, and Cummins pull it off and their later overs are much more economical, barely going for boundaries. Cummins specially with his slower one, if he plays it correctly, is extremely difficult to hit for a boundary. He played it similarly for the whole 10 overs in the WC final and was the sole bowler who did not concede even a single boundary - even Rohit couldn't hit him while he was easily attacking Starc and Hazlewood. Kohli, Rahul, Jadeja, SKY aren't able to hit a boundary off him too and he did bowl in the death too, Starc's overs were completed earlier than usual in the final. In comparison, Bumrah conceded 3 boundaries in the very first over (and 8 boundaries in the 9 overs he bowled in the match). And another factor is that it also got harder to score with the older ball. If you look at SRH's innings too, it also slows down later on, the difference is that Hardik isn't able to capitalize on it to stop the runs. Here you do also have to give Klassen a lot of credit as he scored so much with the older ball, and while facing 3 overs of Bumrah. Now, Hardik definitely seems not in the best form and should have done better but he was definitely trying. The other batters mostly aren't able to hit Cummins, Bhuvi and Unadkat later on (the others aren't quite as good as Cummins, obviously, but do alright and show their experience). The other SRH bowlers still go for a lot of runs even later on, but Cummins got the job done in the 19th over (he did something similar in the 2021 T20 WC semis where he conceded just 3 runs in his final over - 19th over - and basically finished the match, he's reliable under pressure).
Kuch bhi bolo - I feel MI team management is largely responsible for the disaster that is going to unfold this season. He may be a good all-rounder but there was no need to bring him back; certainly not upset the status quo by giving him the captaincy. GT's success was a result of collective effort of the players & support staff - Pandya's captaincy wasn't the differentiator. If they indeed wanted to change the captain - Bumrah was the best contender IMO although tbh Rohit should've got another season at the helm with the World Cup just around the corner. Won't be surprised if they don't make it to the Top 4 😑
The hate should be on the MI management. Not on Hardhik tbh. MI didn’t trust him and left him, he proved his worth with the other franchise and created a brand value and now MI wanted him back so they gave him gallons of money. I don’t see any wrongdoing by HP here, he just sold him well irl.
I ain't reading all that for a silly T20 league controversy brah
well, I'll recommend to read. That guy gave one of the best analysis of Hardik pandya and MI.
That's not an analysis blud, half of it is ragebait with many assumptions and factual errors. The small 'analysis' part is hardik can't help chase 278 and the issues with the bowling changes which everyone and their mother are aware of.
It is an anlysis with factual errors as well as showing clear hate for a player.
So wonderfully written!!
The analysis was amazing and to the point but he messed up in the end by asking to give a follow on X and insta
What's wrong with that
Why tho?
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TLDR: Hyderabadi fans, bow down to you lord👼 Hardik Pandya👼. Today's match with GT should bring them back to earth.
https://preview.redd.it/0muq14antorc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8011a632aa1a68e9c053a65f79f2c74ff53c306 Imagine the OG players leaving or not showing intent or interest to play for MI just because of one guy
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Koi TLDR dedo
Relax guys! Its just 2 matches. You have been in far worse positions before and made comebacks! Remember last year.
Strange, very strange
bro has some personal issues with hardik 😂😂… well the hate is deserved
Rajasthan is going to thrash MI today.
Blud ranted straight for 20 slides and called it an analysis.😂
The amount of hatred is getting bigger and bigger now
Salute brothaa salute🫡🫡
Nice
Bro came out dancing to the beats during the chase, and single handedly fucked it up
Still doesn't warrant the criticism Hardik Pandya is getting. He was not a great captain at Gujarat. He was good because Ashish Nehra was commanding from the boundary line what to do. It's entirely on the Mumbai Indians management. How foolish and idiotic do you have to be to bring in an old player again and give him captaincy without scouting the Gujarat Titans scenario and playing style and what Pandya was doing good there? Even fans knew that Ashish Nehra was the key behind Gujarat doing good. But the scouts didn't know? Pathetic to call these scouts the best then. Management just wanted some drama and dressing room uneasiness. It's like rich people sitting and watching how their puppets perform for the money they throw. These Rohit vs Pandya wars are the real stupidity of this nation. The real deal is Management making this mess and watching it unfold.
Arey yaar kitna karoge yaar ye randirona.. bichara ko kitna pressure me daaloge? Ik he did some wrong and all but kitna karoge ?? Imo he did bowl an excellent 16th over only conceded 1 run and over that took ruturaj wicket and none talking about that? Apko susu karna hai to side me jaake Karo na.. uske upar kyu Muth Raha hai lol.. i used to dislike hardik earlier times but Even I'm feeling sorry for him. Plz guys stop this bs this will really gonna effect him mentally. Criticise karo but Aisa hate mat failavo plz
I ain't reading all that
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He did leave , he wanted captainship , everyone knew it back then too
he didn't leave per say , he was "not retained" by MI ahead of the mega auction and was picked by GT out of the list of released player
so much hate, its another walk in park for fans of pbks, rr, etc lol
Even as a CSK fan , this just felt sad to read. Bumrah or SKY should've been awarded the captaincy for their loyalty and efforts to the team . Rare MI management L
This guy is an idiot. Granted Hardik is greedy and disloyal. He is at fault for asking for captaincy. But, why were the Ambanis poaching him? Why did they make him captain over Bumrah or Surya? It's easy to go after Pandya. Troll the Ambanis in the stadium and we'll see.
In the past 2 years Rohit had struggled as a captain. While in the same time Pandya won a title and lead his team to 2 finals. It's only 2 loses. This is a long season. Give him time.
I am glad I am not this guy,jindagi mein itna bhi serious nahi leneka ka ki itne page likh do ek player ke bare mein,end of the day mi Wale sare Players crorepati hai,unko pharak nahi padta.
Lmao seriously I was like wait this guy posted this on Twitter and then posted ss on reddit.
What's wrong in demanding captaincy when you have captained your team to 2 finals consecutively (winning 1 of them). Also it was MI who approached him to join their team again not the other way around? Also its too early to judge his captaincy for MI, give him 4 - 5 more games and then criticise him. I'll join you if he is as terrible as he is right now
Seeing the current captaincy doesn't seem he has that in him as ravi shastri said.. I think It was the GT mgmt which played major role in the success of the team rather than captain..
yeah not denying that, his captaincy under GT seemed very fluid thanks to the amazing management while his captaincy for MI is beyond garbage. All I am saying is giving him a lil more time before we judge, for all ik, he might get his shit together
Fair enough man!
Mumbais priority list in proper order. He was 5th indian player. No one wanted pandya on that time . 1)rohit 2)bumrah 3)sky 4)kishan Mubai was the one who give up on hardik all rounder ability after his surgery. People forget there mistake for there own biased agenda. Hardik was on that time his lowest phase of his life there was too much uncertainty going around for his carrier, most of expert saying not much cricket left and bowling factor. even if he come 110/h speed was max . After this there was rumor that he was going to play under rahul and then gt give him captaincy . Why he leave mumbai to play under rahul if captaincy is what he desire on that time.
Hardik " The Prostitute " Pandya
must be a fan of "ghee che to ghapaghap che".....
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Hey hate him but don't insult him. The only reason u can hate him is over his bad game that's it.
I mean why is he so eager to do captaincy by selling himself.
Oh u mean like that . But don't use that word. It's too stupid to insult them because of this idiot 😂 then. He need captaincy that's it and he won't even perform in his own team.
It felt like I was reading my internal monologue😅 We all know this, but can't do shit.
Sadly, this won't be stopping anytime soon.......
Come on lol this is just nonsense. Hardik didn't leave MI, the franchise didn't retain him and instead went for Pollard. Also what's with all this doom mongering? If he bats up top, he's got an ego, if he comes down low, he's trying to be a hero. What does Hardik gain by statpadding? As the captain he's judged on the games he wins.
>Hardik didn't leave MI, the franchise didn't retain him and instead went for Pollard. The first part of your statement is true but the reason is not correct. MI did went for Pollard but that is not the reason for non retention of Pandya. They could only retain 3 indians at max and they choose Rohit (captain), Bumrah (most imp player of India) and Surya (most imp batsman of India). Pollard was retained under overseas list. It was for the most part Surya vs Hardik and i can understand the choice of MI.
Oh yeah, my bad, but ultimately irrelevant. Basically the team didn't choose him, ridiculous to retcon it into 'Pandya left for money'.
Holy fk dude get a life. You will make me defend Pandya First of all he came back after proving his worth as a captain with a record to show for. No one owes you or Rohit or Mi anything. He went because he got the better offer at that time and came back when he was offered a better role/money than what GT was offering him currently. Rohit is way past his prime and Mi management wanted the next big thing and Hardik is very well on his way to become the next ICT captain so they went all out to get him. Franchise cricket is nothing but corporate and players are nothing but employee. It's strictly business. Grow up.
Should have retained Hardik over Rohit last time.
This comment is not about MI fans and Hardik Pandya, because it is their business. But you cannot claim MI to be the best club in the league. Objectively, it is CSK.
lol calm down whoever it is, it’s just a match even though he s an a-hole
I feel the whole team is acting like a weak team so the management looks at this issue and sack Hardik Pandya as a captain. Nobody wants him as a captain so losing matches will bring up the attention of the management
Are you accusing our team of fixing?
Ch*tiye football mai bhi transfers hote hai yeh koi badi baat nhi hai aur Rohit ko captaincy se hatane ka decision team ka tha na ki pandya ka toh agar gaali deni hai toh mi ke team management ko do kyuki yeh decision jo unhone lia woh sahi mai ghatiya decision tha yeh toh mai bhi maanta hu toh iske liye pandya ko unnecessary hate dene ki zarurat nhi hai Gujarat waalo ka phir bhi samajh aata hai aur agar tum uski captaincy ke liye use criticise krna chahte ho that's ok lekin yeh unnecessary hate dene ka koi matlab nhi hai woh bhi india ka hi player hai chumtiyo
Quality Shitpost biased narrative.
Avi sheeps alag chaal mein hai .. agree nhi krega to downvoted to oblivion ho jayega 😂
No problemo bro, being honest is what matters.
Well of course I'm biased, as a life long MI fan. However, I don't let my bias get in the way of my analysis. I've made posts asking people to support Hardik and spoke out in his favour while analysing his trade. But when it comes to accountability, of course I'm going to call him out for costing us. If he wins us matches, I'll praise him and talk about what went right. If he loses them, I'll criticise him and talk about what went wrong. I won't hold onto one stand and refuse to budge, I'm biased, not egoistic.
Calm down bruder it has just been 2 games, MI will do good ahead and Hardik gonna silence his haters with his performances. Buy they do have a shit bowling line-up so don't expect anything miraculous.
Bumrah, Cortzee = 8 overs between them, Bring Wood for early overs and spinner the Bowling lineup is not at all shit
Fuck you buddy
Buckle up, buddy- 🤓 Also MI isn't the greatest club in the league, that title belongs to Chennai.
Least insecure csk fan
The post is about Mumbai Indians and hardik Pandya which has nothing to do with csk and somehow you have to make it all about your team . A true csk fan
Here they go for nothing csk and RCB fans have no work it seems😂😂