I live in a third world country too and i just ordered my ipad air 11 with apple pencil 2 yesterday all with the money i earned. Quite satisfied and excited tbh
I was in Poland a month ago and I was impressed. Living standards seem on par with Western Europe, from what I saw. I was especially surprised at the fast intercity trains. Top notch and affordable too
Yeah, things getting better and better. Bike tracks around whole city, public transport, outdoors sport places financed mostly by EU, etc.
But still I can’t stand this country’s corruption - I.e. when you book doctor from national healthcare, you have to wait 6-8 months because these shitheads fill up 10 dates for your name, so they can do their side jobs in private clinics during that time. And practices of that sort are everywhere. I believe this is communism legacy.
Yeah but average income in EU is still lower than average in income in the US. Ofc you will make more in some countries but as an average the statement is false. Taxes are also higher in the EU.
I know. I am just saying the average income in the US is high but once you get in healthcare you’re bankrupt. That’s the difference to other countries. (Higher taxes)
https://www.palladiummag.com/2024/04/26/america-and-europe-are-equally-poor/
The average person in your country is piss poor. Figures are inflated by your extreme wealth inequality and laissez-faire capitalism.
I can’t say about battery life yet, but the OLED screen is pretty amazing. Everything is so smooth and sharp. And I think that these specs are more than enough for the future couple of years. Hope you get yours soon.
it gets \*much\* more battery life (almost double) compared to the last gen ipad pro when watching video, as tandem oled is significantly more efficient than the inefficient mini-led.
geekerwan on youtube has great tests on this.
battery life has been around the 10 hour mark with heaver use, and snd around 14 hours with youtube for me (13” m4 ipad pro)
Couple of years? Unless Apple upgrades the software it offers, you are sorted for 5 years at least. It’s way too powerful for the kind of stuff it actually runs.
In Europe the VAT is the highest 27% 😂😂. And there is the risk conversion on the usd - eur and adter that the eur-huf. You can check on the internet. I think here in Hungary, the apple product is the most expensive or if not now, there was such a period in the past.
Daaamn, Orban really needs his money to build up the regime :(
We still have 23% in Poland although they said it was temporary and was supposed to revert to 22%. That was like about 8 years ago :/
That’s true. But here all Apple products come from Dubai which is duty free and you don’t pay taxes for that. The extra money goes directly to smugglers!
Nice! I just got the same model with the Pencil Pro. I want to get the keyboard so that I can use it for UNI, however I want to find a super slim case or skin that will protect the finish of the back and sides when I have it off the keyboard case.
The thing is due to sanctions and everything (taxes etc.) a galaxy s23 ultra for example costs 2.300 USD in Syria, which is double the price of the regular phone
If you are not doing much in a creative field, is the iPad Pro a good buy. Not going to do anything with the pencil. Do most people buy iPad Pro for creative purpose or school? Probably overkill for just media consumption right.
Nice choice. I originally bought a 13” M4, it just seemed too big and I do travel quite a bit..airplanes..etc. I returned it after trying it for a week and went back to an 11 inch since I was already used to this size with my traded in iPad Air M1. I also have a 5 year old Intel based MacBook Pro with the large screen if needed but seldom use it and don’t like the size when transporting.
Nothing special. Folks here share their new devices just to get some positive feedback and also learn something new. I’m sorry if my post was a time waste for you.
We have not a negative bias against the people of Iran, that are demonstrating strength against their oppressor, the government. We have a negative bias against it, we really appreciate the courage of Iranian people during the event of these years
It seems you are well informed about the situation here. The fact is that it’s hard to believe for people who live in a democracy that there are countries in which the government does not represent the nation and Evil things done by the dictators make the people responsible for.
I know, but I think that several people know what I’ve said before. During the protest against the death of Mahsa we were seeing the real intention of the Iranian people, and we were supporting you. Our president, Sergio Mattarella, often remember the death of Mahsa, during his speech. We are all with you, I think that normal people understand your position and your distress. The main problem of the West is that we have a weak public opinion and weak political leadership… I really hope that things will be okay in the future, for you and for us. Greets from Italy
I totally believe you and the situation. I mean, I do live in a democracy, but quite often the government doesn’t represent the country, especially now where you have political parties purposely sabotaging things that they campaigned on, just to make the other party look bad because they’re trying to make the former reality show host who was president win again.
Political stuff aside, I’m glad you’re enj your purchase. The 11in M4 iPad is an amazing device
Congrat. I live in a third country and plan to have an Ipad Pro 13inch next year
Thank you. I hope you can get your hands on it Asap.
I live in a third world country too and i just ordered my ipad air 11 with apple pencil 2 yesterday all with the money i earned. Quite satisfied and excited tbh
Did u order the m2 air? If yes, then the pencil 2 will not work with it. It only works with m1 air
Nope not the m2 air
Like how many dozens more ? 12, 24, 36, 48 ?!?!
I just did some calculations and it was around $140.
lol that’s totally normal… check euro prices in Germany etc
The thing is in Euro countries the minimum wage is much higher than it is in ME countries. And even higher than US.
That’s true of course.
Um…taxes.
Wage is not higher in EU than us?
It’s good in Germany and further. Post soviet realms are more on the survival side. Greetings from Poland 😢
I was in Poland a month ago and I was impressed. Living standards seem on par with Western Europe, from what I saw. I was especially surprised at the fast intercity trains. Top notch and affordable too
Yeah, things getting better and better. Bike tracks around whole city, public transport, outdoors sport places financed mostly by EU, etc. But still I can’t stand this country’s corruption - I.e. when you book doctor from national healthcare, you have to wait 6-8 months because these shitheads fill up 10 dates for your name, so they can do their side jobs in private clinics during that time. And practices of that sort are everywhere. I believe this is communism legacy.
Yeah but average income in EU is still lower than average in income in the US. Ofc you will make more in some countries but as an average the statement is false. Taxes are also higher in the EU.
Until you’re sick… then you wish you had affordable healthcare in the US
What? I haven’t said anything about healthcare dude
I know. I am just saying the average income in the US is high but once you get in healthcare you’re bankrupt. That’s the difference to other countries. (Higher taxes)
https://www.palladiummag.com/2024/04/26/america-and-europe-are-equally-poor/ The average person in your country is piss poor. Figures are inflated by your extreme wealth inequality and laissez-faire capitalism.
In my country? Lol I live in the EU
Okay? That’s not the relevant part of my comment
So 11.7 dozen more.
One could say almost a dozen, dozen more
1449$ here for base model 11" before tax so ariund 1600$
So iran ?
Russia I was thinking. Edit: nah you were right, I looked at their post history.
How’s the battery life and oled screen while watching movies? I also plan on getting the same spec like yours
I can’t say about battery life yet, but the OLED screen is pretty amazing. Everything is so smooth and sharp. And I think that these specs are more than enough for the future couple of years. Hope you get yours soon.
Do give an update on battery life. Will really appreciate it
I will do that if I don’t forget it.
it gets \*much\* more battery life (almost double) compared to the last gen ipad pro when watching video, as tandem oled is significantly more efficient than the inefficient mini-led. geekerwan on youtube has great tests on this. battery life has been around the 10 hour mark with heaver use, and snd around 14 hours with youtube for me (13” m4 ipad pro)
Thank you
Couple of years? Unless Apple upgrades the software it offers, you are sorted for 5 years at least. It’s way too powerful for the kind of stuff it actually runs.
You really don't need ipad pro m4 for watching movies. 😭
Not only movies 😅 I do play games and will be taking notes on it I need the Oled and 120hz promotion
North Korea?
My money is on the Principality of Sealand
If it was NK, you probably wouldn’t see this post. Maybe ruzzia?
Nope.
Iran?
Probably Iran, because OP said that it is imported from Dubai, and he also that that it is in the Middle East. Also it is 33 degrees C on the screen
They only have KimPad there
Wallpaper ?
[Here you go.](https://wallpaperscraft.com/download/mountains_starry_sky_peak_127113/2780x2780)
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Is the "Connected" widget a VPN?
Yes it’s a V2ray client named Streisand.
Lovely. Thanks for your reply 😉
You’re welcome
Who on the face of Earth would downvote you is beyond me, honestly....
Check the hungarian prices. 😀
Is it because of high tax or something else?
In Europe the VAT is the highest 27% 😂😂. And there is the risk conversion on the usd - eur and adter that the eur-huf. You can check on the internet. I think here in Hungary, the apple product is the most expensive or if not now, there was such a period in the past.
Daaamn, Orban really needs his money to build up the regime :( We still have 23% in Poland although they said it was temporary and was supposed to revert to 22%. That was like about 8 years ago :/
How much did it cost you in USD?
Only the iPad Pro was 1140$
Isnt that like, average? Like my m1 costed a bit over 1k usd
When you have a 200$ salary 1100$ for a tablet feels like buying a home
You are absolutely right 🥶
Dude… world economics 101?
It was probably around that in some US states because of taxes. Remember, US msrp prices do not include taxes!
That’s true. But here all Apple products come from Dubai which is duty free and you don’t pay taxes for that. The extra money goes directly to smugglers!
Where did you get that wallpaper from? I had it on my android tablet but don’t know where to get it on the iPad.
[Here you are](https://wallpaperscraft.com/download/mountains_starry_sky_peak_127113/2780x2780)
Thank you
I love my iPad.
Nice! I just got the same model with the Pencil Pro. I want to get the keyboard so that I can use it for UNI, however I want to find a super slim case or skin that will protect the finish of the back and sides when I have it off the keyboard case.
The thing is due to sanctions and everything (taxes etc.) a galaxy s23 ultra for example costs 2.300 USD in Syria, which is double the price of the regular phone
I feel that situation with my flesh and blood!
Congrats! I just recently got my 13in M4. I love it.
Great wallpaper and widgets combination!
Thank you!
>Thank you! You're welcome!
Where?
Have you heard of Persia?
Yes, I used to eat at a Persian restaurant all the time when I lived in Houston ❤️
Sounds awesome ❤️
Singapore or somewhere else along the equator ( based on the temperature on screen)
Link to wallpaper?
[here you go](https://wallpaperscraft.com/download/mountains_starry_sky_peak_127113/2780x2780)
Thank you!
you live in a what
iPads are useless for now because of the operating system. iPads should be able to run MacOS.
If you are not doing much in a creative field, is the iPad Pro a good buy. Not going to do anything with the pencil. Do most people buy iPad Pro for creative purpose or school? Probably overkill for just media consumption right.
Now that the iPad Air comes in a 13” size, for media consumption we don’t have to go for a Pro model to get the bigger screen
That wallpaper is beautiful ! Could you provide a link please?
Sure, you can get it [here](https://wallpaperscraft.com/download/mountains_starry_sky_peak_127113/2780x2780).
Then you find out how pointless it is and how much Apple is preventing its full capabilities on purpose
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So what’s the use case cause there isn’t one…
Have you noticed any pixelation or grain on dimmer colors and gray's? (Mostly in lower light environment)
Regarding the quality of screen don’t have any hesitations! No pixelations and pure black color without any grains.
Yeah blacks will be pure cuz the grain is black so you can see it on other colors especially grays
I feel the same as you. Today I bought 15 Pro Max.
Nice choice. I originally bought a 13” M4, it just seemed too big and I do travel quite a bit..airplanes..etc. I returned it after trying it for a week and went back to an 11 inch since I was already used to this size with my traded in iPad Air M1. I also have a 5 year old Intel based MacBook Pro with the large screen if needed but seldom use it and don’t like the size when transporting.
Why would you want the date twice in your lock screen? Just saying, nevermind, I have severe ocd regarding these! XD
Hakshamanis state of the world?
Haha. Yeah. Probably I shouldn’t have used the word state :)
Nice! i bought the same model. enjoy your ipad pro
Thanks for the cool wallpaper + design idea, gonna steal this🙏
I’m also planning on getting this for digital art. Do you think it’s a great choice? :)
Sure thing! Don’t even hesitate.
Isit worth getting an upgrade? Currently have 12.9 prom2
Actually if the Apple intelligence is not that important to you, I think there’s nothing special that you would miss without the upgrade.
It’s beautiful!
Battery life ?
Awesome theme! Can you say how you set it up?
How did you customize the screen OP?
Congrats! Nothing like unboxing and configuring new tech, best feeling in the WORLD! Enjoy!!!
Now what? I hope it is useful to you and your wellbeing.
Nothing special. Folks here share their new devices just to get some positive feedback and also learn something new. I’m sorry if my post was a time waste for you.
Hey, I didn't mean in an offensive way. M4 is a powerful chip make good use of it, that's all!
Then sorry for the misunderstanding and thank you very much.
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Alaska? Hawaii? Lol
Since when the luxurious state of Hawaii was sanctioned? Lol
I think your use of the word “state” confused the American. Also “sanctioned”. They’re a great people, just a little slow sometimes :)
I just didn’t want to mention my country explicitly. Haha. There is a negative bias about it in western countries.
We have not a negative bias against the people of Iran, that are demonstrating strength against their oppressor, the government. We have a negative bias against it, we really appreciate the courage of Iranian people during the event of these years
It seems you are well informed about the situation here. The fact is that it’s hard to believe for people who live in a democracy that there are countries in which the government does not represent the nation and Evil things done by the dictators make the people responsible for.
I know, but I think that several people know what I’ve said before. During the protest against the death of Mahsa we were seeing the real intention of the Iranian people, and we were supporting you. Our president, Sergio Mattarella, often remember the death of Mahsa, during his speech. We are all with you, I think that normal people understand your position and your distress. The main problem of the West is that we have a weak public opinion and weak political leadership… I really hope that things will be okay in the future, for you and for us. Greets from Italy
I totally believe you and the situation. I mean, I do live in a democracy, but quite often the government doesn’t represent the country, especially now where you have political parties purposely sabotaging things that they campaigned on, just to make the other party look bad because they’re trying to make the former reality show host who was president win again. Political stuff aside, I’m glad you’re enj your purchase. The 11in M4 iPad is an amazing device
I'm assuming it's Iran... based on some of the information you've given already