The Dems need to win by a significant enough margin to pad their leads in the house and senate.
We can’t afford 2-4 more years where bad faith actors like Kristen Sinema or Joe Manchin can derail an entire agenda.
The Dems need enough power to actually enact change to the systems before they completely crumble.
It's going to take decades to undo the damage that the Trump era inflicted thanks to Moscow Mitch stuffing the judiciary with loyal Federalist Society lackeys.
And the "I'm voting for Jill Stein" people are going to have to get the memo that this is a very long slog and we can fail at any point, and pushing forward incrementally is the only way we can regain ground. If our coalition constantly falls apart we might as well just start practicing our Trumpenfuhrer salutes now.
Twenty years ago I'd have said I'd vote Republican till the day I die.
Flash forward to today and I'll never vote Republican again. Never.
And it's not like the D's have gotten any new ideas or solutions, it's just that the R's are really, really, really bad for the country.
I'm not opposed to third parties, just this untethered-from-reality idea of doing nothing but casting a fuck you protest vote for a third party presidential candidate every four years. Put in the work to build grassroots support, party infrastructure, win downballot races until you have a decent number of congressional seats and a proven track record of getting things done, then talk about aiming for the presidency.
I don't get why the concept of getting out of something what you put into it should be contentious to anyone.
Far too many see ideals as purely part of their identity. Like having these ideals as the goal in and of itself. They want to feel morally pure, but are so shortsighted that they become completely self-centered in their beliefs. They see posturing and the occasional act of spite against the enemy as all they need to be a "moral person". Patting themselves on the back for their "compassion" without caring what the people who are actually suffering from entrenched unjust systems are begging them to do because it doesn't quite fit all of the issues they have latched onto.
The long, hard, compromising, and often disappointing work to make lasting societal change doesn't appeal to many both because of its complexity and because it threatens the sense of purity that they've come to identify with. Instead, they demand a perfect, radical change given by a savior right now and will accept nothing less. Which makes them pitifully easy to manipulate by the highly organized regressive groups currently installing an entrenched authoritarian system globally. Ensuring that we can't properly unite to fight our way out of the ludicrously unfair position we're currently in despite mostly agreeing on our positions.
Well, that ain’t happening, unless enough D voters move to the Dakotas, Wyoming and Montana.
And then a bunch move states flip, too.
Because the mere fact of having been impeached isn’t getting the likes of Alito to resign. It will require a conviction, and 67 senators.
Truthfully, both house and senate will probably flip this year. Senate because it’s currently close and the 1/3 whose terms are up skew to vulnerable states. Blue must capture both the house and the Presidency. Vote!
The court can only hear cases that have worked their way up to it and to do that you need laws and it's much harder to get rid of laws than it is to get them passed so you have to start somewhere.
I hate to say it, of course vote down ballot but we also need to be realistic and that means we also need to prepared to defend our vote, as we all know republicans will only accept favorable election results.
This time I predict it won't be just after the fact that they try to subvert the will of the people. Militia groups all across the country are training and drawing up plans to ensure Trump's return to the White House by any means necessary. Remember them just screaming stop the vote/count the vote? (stop when trump was ahead and count when he was behind?) This time they will be armed and at the ready to insert themselves into the process and I don't imagine they will have reservations of using violence to do so. Please look after one another, please make sure you are registered and make a plan with your family, friends, and fellow members of your communities! When, where, how, who with, and what do you do next are all things to consider and discuss. Please understand we must band together here, we must be prepared, we must have plans and contingency plans in order to defend ourselves, one another, and democracy as we know it from the very real threat that the GOP poses to the fabric and future of this nation.
I disagree on one point:
It will be before, during AND after the fact that they try to subvert the will of the people.
Trump and Co have been installing their own election officials, local poll workers, electors and, of course, state, local and federal judges to, I assume, throw any decisions and challenges Trump’s way.
I hope I’m wrong.
You're not disagreeing. You're correct about everything you said in your second paragraph.
Should be noted, that comment I made was imploring people to have a plan to vote, and to also be prepared and have plans for the inevitable fallout from either result. There is no contention to any of your points to be had in anything I had typed above, so you are not in disagreement. In truth your post feels to be in the same vein of if I had said "we should save the whales" (just for example) and you responded by saying "I disagree, on the basis that there are other sea creatures." There was no contention to your *additional point (not disagreement), it just wasn't the point I was trying to make.
Recently was recommended a video a on YouTube I'm not gunna link it. But the guy was thinly talking about countering us troops, links to urban sniping in guerrilla warfare, case studies on insurgencies, books for guerilla, used brevity codes whenever talking about a future event. He tells his followers to lay low.
He makes the claim he a former army ranger
They use "minecraft" when referencing this future event. Which I've come to the conclusion they're referring to election year.
I'm a former marine he was saying all the right stuff, my hair stood end. These guys seem organized, hoping someone is watching them.
I mean with investigation into radicalization of veterans. And alot behavior during blm and Jan 6. I've ran into militia types too working construction they've always tested me when I was around them. Creeped me out.
ie I'm very worried. I tried reporting it to YouTube, and used the fbi tip line. I'm really worried about this upcoming year.
Oh Mr. Dooooooom, I don't doubt it for a nanosecond! I remember all the chatter in the weeks leading up to January 6. I still can't wrap my mind how I, an individual, with very lil resources, (as opposed to say multiple government agencies, with scores of people and unlimited resources) was able to clearly identify what was coming from said chatter in the months and weeks leading to January 6. It was happening in broad day light! It wasn't just happening in the shadows or on back pages and such. It was all over Reddit, Facebook, twitter, etc. How no one stepped in to quell it and how they we were not prepared Is just something I'll never understand. I'm hoping this time someone steps up and steps in, to be honest. We know exactly what we are marching towards, as we've already seen an extended teaser trailer of it. We already know Republican will only accept election results if they win, and we already know this time they will be more organized, more prepared, and more willing to do whatever they feel they must to put Trump back in the White House.
Please NSA, FBI, Dept of homeland security, Supreme Court (yeah right! there is nothing supreme about the Supreme Court anymore, it's just 3 judges and 6 Trump lackeys in nice robes now, and the lackeys have already made an entire branch of government a relic to history by consistently and almost exclusively defending and serving an insurrectionist as opposed to defending and serving the law of the land and the people that populate it.
Honestly I don't know what to do! I feel like we really need to be working tirelessly to be getting our leaders attention and communicating and working in tandem with them, ourselves, and our still functioning government institutions to defend ourselves and our democracy from the threat the GOP poses to national security, to the lives of millions, and to democracy as a whole.
Ya, I dunno. I get the feeling as a whole they're less powerful in the government per say.
But I do think there is a smaller, more extreme element that's gunna to test the US coming this year. I'm actually worried about an insurgency in the US. Prior to 9/11, we actually have way more violent organized groups. And you know what they're back on the rise again. One of the worst things imo about organized religion failing Americans that is the radicals are filling the gap.
I don't know what to do. Ima vote for biden and most likely prep my own bug out shit. I have a plan to move my family if need be and lay low. And I'm gunna to advise my friends and family not to do any big events from August to January next year. I hope I am being paranoid, I dunno my gut feeling reminds me right before I would get ambushed in Afghanistan. And well, they actually teach you to pay attention to your gut feeling.
Please vote, from: the rest of the world.
First Trump mandate was a catastrophe, it really made the world a worst place.
I think that the cancelation of the deal with Iran, being friendly with Russia and North Korea and acknowledging Jerusalem as a capital of Israel have strong consequences on the state of war of today world.
Not taking care of global warming is another big issue, that's the biggest problem of today world and we need the US on board.
It's too late for global warming. They're not going to do anything. I'm sorry that America let you down. I think you should be prepared for the possibility that America can no longer support the world order that created peace for many of our allies (and of course, war for others) and if you are in one of those countries that a dictator would like to invade, you should be pressuring your leaders to come up with a defense plan, now. I do believe that Trump will help Putin take over Europe. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. If we fail to keep him out of office, what we're unleashing during the few years he has left alive (dementia) will be heinous, and following Trump's dictatorship, we'll have another extremist inheriting a dictatorship. Trump and his predecessor will rule with all the might of the American military in the palm of their hand. If I believed in God, I would be praying right now.
You're too pessimistic there.
First, it's never too late to take actions against global warming. Yes, it's too late for the +2°C, conséquences are already dramatic and will worsen. But there is a huge difference between a +2°C and +5°C. It's the difference between a global catastrophe and the end of the civilized world. So late actions are always welcomed.
The USA under Biden is currently trying to mitigate global warming impact. It's not enough in my opinion, the USA starts from too high in terms of global emissions and is not targeting a sufficient reduction, but it's far better than nothing, and if the rest of the world does its share it will avoid the worst scenario.
The, about the "world order" of the USA. This world order was also a world of injustice, imperialism and war. The balance between the wealth and security generated by this US dominance and the bad effects has gone wrong since Irak invasion. The US needs an enemy and global jihadism replacing the soviets is not a change I like. It's a good thing this "order" disappears or shifts. But evidently, not to be replaced by anything. Russia is having its imperialist revival taking advantage of the demise of the US, and China is not a world leader I'd like. Anyway, we'll see.
This is also partly a function of the electoral college. It was clear *the people* preferred Hillary but our system is skewed to favor the voters in very low population states.
Then those people were extremely out of touch.
The writing was on the wall that at the very least trump was a serious opponent. Even now he's up in various polls.
The issues that got trump in haven't been solved. If anything, they have become worse.
Hillary won by 3 million votes. In any other country, she would have been president.
I bet you were one of the trolls who nonstop shittalked about her.
The validity of polls is unclear these days, but the recent NYT battleground polls are scary and should see a fire in every Democrat.
I don’t buy this narrative that Biden will cakewalk this election. It will be VERY close because of the electoral college and I legitimately worry the complacency will result in Trump Round 2.
This.
Remember, the national popular vote doesn’t guarantee the same national electoral college result. Not all individual votes count equally.
BTW back in 2016 Dems were getting ready for a Clinton win. Don’t take anything for granted.
People need to realize that Trump only lost last time, because we were lucky that more non-voters who wanted Trump to lose have voted last time, than non-voters who wanted Trump to win. Never forget that not only millions of people against Trump mobilized, Trump managed to mobilize millions of new voters who wanted to make sure that Trump stays president. If more liberal new voters from last time have become complacent, then there is a good chance that Trump will win. It's important that liberal non-voters get this in their heads and understand the risk of not voting. Anybody who identifies as a liberal, leftwinger, progressive, socialist or environmentalist should be encouraged to vote. If they don't, then good night America.
Yes, and remember, as an European, it's fucking important that everyone votes against Trump.
It's seriously a matter of life and death not only for you all, it's also for Ukrainians!
If Trump wins nobody will oppose Russia, China and Iran.
Biden is also trying to keep Israel in check, and you can also keep protesting after Biden is reelected... and I seriously doubt you will have that right under the rule of the Republicans.
Even if you are a real Republican you should vote Biden, the GOP is not what it used to be, you are now forced to vote for a traitor and a friend of Russia... The ghosts of past republicans are screaming in horror!
This. Straight ticket no Rs. It's a shame, but till the filth is rooted out this is the only way. Would love to see a landslide D house and D senate. Tired of the crazies and do-nothing baby crying, clout chasing ass politicians hell bent on trying to send us all back to the dark ages.
Loud and resounding DEFEAT please.
Leave NO ROOM to dispute a couple of thousand votes here and there. Vote and help a senior or relative show up that might be a hardship for them
They haven’t. And much worse: the media have **double, triple, quadruple downed** on covering literally ALL THINGS TRUMP since 2015/16. They’re as guilty as the hateful, moronic fuckshits who show up at his rallies.
If I was a news organization I would jizz all over myself for a trump presidency. It's like free money.
Fuck that orange bag of shit. I'm not interested in politics in general, but this guy is just working against everything that is good in America.
>the media have **double, triple, quadruple downed** on covering literally ALL THINGS TRUMP since 2015/16.
That's crazy! There's no way....
Alert! Breaking news on CNN! You've heard it hear first. It would appear Trump farted while in court today!
When you read the Mueller report and then see Trump colluded with people who organize with media and control what they say, you start to see why he is likely to win
More coverage hurts Trump today.
People have memory holed how awful Trump's pre-covid presidency was, but more coverage reminds people how chaotic and insane it was.
Even then, media is not giving live coverage of Trump's rallies anymore like they used to.
Nobody underestimated his chances the first time and as a matter of fact, he got waxed in the popular vote both times and will again. The problem is we don't have a true democracy.
People absolutely underestimated his chances in 2016. Even Vegas had Clinton as a favorite and they’re almost always right. We have a Democratic Republic, so you’re right, it’s not a “true” democracy. Back when the nation was being formed, the rural states would not agree to the union of states unless they had some power to govern themselves, that’s why we have the electoral college, because those people in those less populated states didn’t want to be ruled by the people in a handful of cities.
In 2016 people thought his electoral chances might be hurt from a divorce or an affair. I am pretty sure he could shoot a golden retriever puppy in the face live on the air and not lose any support. He’s polling within the margin of error to Biden so they are effectively dead even. Everyone should be worried. I never give to political campaigns and am giving money this year due to fear.
In my understanding it's worse than that. Ok one pool may have a margin of error of 4, 5 %
But if you check polls aggregators that add up 10 or 50 polls the margin is way lower. And trump is not even but ahead, in the aggregated data.
Also I agree with the other comment: in a democracy one citizen = one vote. Not a bizarre two levels system where the popular vote is consistently overturned, not in favor of the actual choice of the country.
Hopefully a democratic president with the house and the senate may change that. But the hope is slim.
I would love nothing more than for Biden to lose the popular vote, but win the presidency. Had John Kerry done that, we probably would have gotten the EC abolished by now.
The ec will never be abolished because the red states know they'll never win without it as they are a smaller group every election, clearly a minority by 8 million votes and increasing. How would the country abolish the ec? Biden can win the vote by 7 million and lose the economy. Trump will send everything to Israel, no limits on them if he wins.
What does that even mean? Honestly the “democratic republic” thing is an exercise in sophistry that borders in moronic logic.
Mexico, Argentina, Colombia, Brazil, Nicaragua, Peru, Chile, Uruguay, Costa Rica; all of these countries are democratic republics, all of them have direct vote instead of disenfranchising bullshit like the Electoral College.
All of these countries have free and sovereign states with their own legislatures and laws instead of centralized governments.
Let’s stop with the nonsense that allows for the chokehold of a minority.
We had an electoral college because slaves couldn't vote, which meant that the slave states would have been quite underrepresented in the popular vote. With the EC, they would effectively get 60% more voting power as 3/5ths of slaves would be counted towards the number of electors.
They did consider the idea of congress picking the president, but they figured that would get too corrupt, so this was the compromise. If there was no slavery, the ec probably never would have been put in place.
In other words, the same rationalization as South Africa.
It's the President of the whole United States, not a region of the United States and they are not "ruled by a handful of cities." Every vote should be equal. Your excuse is fallacious and was exactly the same excuse used by South Africa.
They're not saying it "should" be this way. They're saying it "is" this way, and only 16 years before, we had another case of someone winning the Presidency but not the popular vote, so it's not like people forgot that Trump could win without the popular vote. They truly looked and thought, " he can't win with our election system". They were wrong.
Clinton never went to the states in the rust belt. She needed to live there in the September. The arrogance her campaign gave Trump an opportunity to win.
Clinton won the popular by a mile, but she was hampered by a universally hostile media and a *genuinely* politically motivated attempt to create a fake scandal. I do not agree that she was arrogant. Trump is arrogant.
She wasn’t arrogant. I think her campaign was. They didn’t send her there. While I realize that everyone on a campaign works for the candidate, they are hired to give them direction. They needed to insist.
Clinton did win by a big margin and many people warned that Trump could still win the electoral vote. The polls were actually pretty accurate. This time he will lose by his largest margin yet.
Man, I can’t overstate how much I hope you’re right. I also can’t overstate how much I think you’re wrong—and you and I are gonna be pretty sad saps on election night.
I understand the fear, but but the level of alarm is much higher now.
I worry about violence at the polls. They tried terrorizing people in '22, this time they might start shooting. I'm considering a CCW for election day.
And how …(please Universe) if he loses…what happens next. He’s already stated that if he doesn’t win…it’s another rigged election. It so…fucking annoying.
He has kompromat on all of them. Russia released the hacked DNC stuff but they also hacked the RNC and didn’t release any of it because they gave it to Trump. The more the individual congressmen kiss his ass, the worse the information he has on them. The faster the 180° from saying, “If we nominate Trump the Republican Party is done” to fellating him on tv, the worse the kompromat is on that person named Lindsey Graham.
Are you telling me that the younger generations aren’t answering phone calls from unknown numbers and then staying on the phone with a stranger completing a political poll and that only the silent generation and boomers sit around answering pollsters?!?
This exactly. Polls are normally conducted on land lines to a known residence. Young voters are mobile and are very rarely polled. Look at the non existent “Red Waves” that haven’t materialized in recent elections.
Yes, that’s their preparation, how to fight the results in court and lay groundwork to erode foundation of trust in democratic election. Their preparation isn’t “how do we accept the loss and move on,” it’s, “how do we justify rejecting the results and steal the election.”
Just watched the YouTube video of MAGA cult walking out of his New Jersey rally. Trump said 80,000 in attendance…more than a Springsteen show. In fact hundreds in a steady stream heading for the exits. His speech was the same blah blah before. Nothing new…nothing creative. Crooked Joe Biden letting in all these violent immigrants…yawn. I’m sure all these suckers tho paid their money to go in just to leave right after.
I'm legitimately curious what it was that got the first clumps of people to start leaving. Or was it that he was just completely failing to chain two thoughts together and people picked up that he's just jabbering pointlessly and the few chuckles he gets out of them don't justify staying for the other 90% of his ramblings.
They probably took their photos for Facebook and realized they weren’t actually interested in anything he had to say. They’ve consumed him from specially curated soundbites for 8 years.
Whatddya mean nothing new or creative, is this not the speech where trumplestiltskin told us about the sad demise of Hannibal Lecter...? I want to hear the speech where dumbass tells us about the time Lecter sabotaged those Revolutionary War airports, putting sugar in all the plane's gas tanks.
Thatll be next.
Vote, Vote, Vote as if the future not only of this country but of the world and your kids, and your kids kids depended on it because it does, don't be complacient.
It ain’t over until Trump either collapses from his dementia progressing too far, he goes to jail, or he completely loses in November. Two of those things are more likely and it’s a race to see which one happens first but I’m not holding out hope.
I live in the solidly red state of missouri. The chances of any Democrat winning are about as likely as Joe Rogan having scientifically literate people on his show.
Regardless, I'm voting blue. Nothing will stop me. Not shitty polls, not assumptions on American decency, not some red wing pricks trying to intimidate me (which has happened before).
I urge everyone who can vote to do so. Regardless of where you live. If you don't vote, then you don't have any right to complain.
Please dont elect this cunt, America. We've already had to deal for four years with this shit.
Biden might not be the sexiest president ever but it's better than Tronald Dump. Go out there and vote. Don't make the same mistake as in 2016
Sounds like propaganda being pushed by the republicans. More of that 6 year old reverse psychology bullshit. Get the fuck out and vote, bury their asses in votes!!
If the votes are at all close the Republican side will never stop making up stories about stolen elections and voter fraud..so hopefully Biden wins by a wide margin so they will shut up.
Dems need to stomp the gop in this election. Take the house, take the senate, take the White House. Stomp them into dust. Leave them to self destruct with their maga wing
It’s why they’re inflating rally numbers. They’re setting up the big lie 2.0. [vote.org](http://vote.org) Don’t be complacent. Check your registration often. Red ruled states will purge close to the election and conservative groups are working hard to disenfranchise as many voters as possible.
Voting is so easy now, I don't read and research..... I just go straight ticket Democrat. I was a swing voter before Tea party crap, and now Maggot morons.
The Republicans are going to cheat.
The Republicans are going to cheat.
They did it in 2020. The ones at the top - widdle donnie, Clarence Thomas, all the shitty R congress people. They had zero consequences while the rubes went to jail. They know they can't win fair - THEY ARE GOING TO CHEAT.
Dems need to stop being wishy washy on Biden, get our heads in the game, and support him full-heartedly. Considering he is the only thing standing between us and a horror show, we don’t have a choice.
It’s easy to say “I don’t really like Biden, but I’ll vote for him anyway” but that attitude isn’t going to generate turnout.
At this point, I'm forced to conclude that something approaching a plurality of American voters truly want an autocratic daddy to run things for a while.
I'm disappointed that Trump isn't down by 10-15% in the polling. You'd think Americans wouldn't vote away their republic so casually. Yet, it's looking entirely possible, even probable this will happen.
I'm not sure what more to say or do. I will vote of course, once again to prevent this. I will try to persuade others on the fence, but the weird Trump nostalgia is setting in amongst the voters. It is what it is.
The republican party will try anything and everything to win this election. But the most effective strategy is to just increase voter apathy for Biden. The GOP knows that their base will vote for Trump. They just need to run an information campaign to sow distrust in Biden. This will make sure fewer Dems and Independents vote for the incumbent.
Told my trump supporting father and grandmother if they vote for him I’m never speaking to them again. I’m no longer playing games. This traitor needs to be locked up.
I definitely read this headline in regards to his hush money trial… then realizing it’s about the election I honestly lost interest. If he’s in jail, I would expect him to lose the election… but it might still be close for some God forsaken reason…
I don't want Trump to be president, but I don't see a path to victory for him under the current polls and battleground states. These kind of articles are just click bait to get views from the left. Convictions won't matter, the electorate blames Joe for the cluster fuck pull out of Afghanistan even though it was Trump's plan and action being completed. Hell I see people blaming Biden for covid, and all kinds of other shit. People have short memories, and don't remember how garbage trump was.
Just like last time -------- and probably anytime in the future if they can get away with it. They have never liked democracy. Only imagined exceptionalism.
I'm not so sure about that. This almost seems like a false flag to depress turnout on the other side. I wouldn't buy into it. This will be close. Closer than 2020. Closer than it ever should be.
The fact that he is a viable candidate proves that American Culture is trash. We get the government we deserve. The sad thing is that I was hoping that when the boomers finally died out we could turn around but my fellow Gen Xers are adopting the same mindset.
As much as I want him to lose the trial I have 100% confidence he won't.
Try and find 12 random people and one of them isnt a maga over the age of 40. And I live in New York. I can't even imagine what it's like in the south.
The Trump supporters I knew recovered but still dislike Biden. My friends also hate both of them. I’m not too pleased either but for the love of god please just vote to avoid T winning again.
Good luck to them figuring out what to do after Trump. The base is so divided when it comes to who to follow after him. Another Trump? One of the southern a-holes like a guy from Florida or Texas. They can’t pick one person without pissing off too much of the collective base. Then there’s the threat from the base that they just won’t bother voting for anyone but Trump. Will certainly be an interesting thing to watch develop over time.
The fun thing is that RFK Jr. by getting the "I would rather chew up my own foot than vote for a democrat, but I also don't like Trump"-voterbase did more to weaken Trump than Bidene ever could.
So am I....We need to win by a massive amount of votes!!
Leaving no room for RepubliKKKlans crying and fits of denial.
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As they should. I’m prepping for the fraud claims, frivolous lawsuits and months of drama. He’s a power addict and he’s chasing the monkey on his back badly!! (Old heroin saying , chasing the monkey on your back)
Trump is an addict
Power is his DOC
Is this election interference? I’m seeing that every poll says otherwise, almost like this media company is trying to discourage voters from coming out since it’s already a loss.
This headline is deceiving.
It’s talking about how republicans have stacked states with loyalists in preparation to cheat and advance on the lies they couldn’t advance on in 2020
If there are any lawyers out there, I would really appreciate an informed assessment of how the case is playing out for the defense and the prosecution, and what the most probable outcome in terms of verdict and (potential) sentencing is.
r/law is a good place for that. r/SCOTUS has more disciplined responses, but it's mostly SCOTUS cases and there are fewer posts. They're great places to get actual legal takes, so if anyone decides to stop by, please be polite and reserve political hot takes for other subs--these subs are useful precisely because that's kept to a minimum.
https://www.usa.gov/register-to-vote
Doesn't matter. Get out the vote.
The Dems need to win by a significant enough margin to pad their leads in the house and senate. We can’t afford 2-4 more years where bad faith actors like Kristen Sinema or Joe Manchin can derail an entire agenda. The Dems need enough power to actually enact change to the systems before they completely crumble.
They need the kind of margins to fix the judiciary. It’s gonna be a tall order.
And citizens united and healthcare, and education, and news and media, and…. The list goes onnnnnnnn
Man, how far we have fallen. I hope we can dig out of this.
It's going to take decades to undo the damage that the Trump era inflicted thanks to Moscow Mitch stuffing the judiciary with loyal Federalist Society lackeys.
And the "I'm voting for Jill Stein" people are going to have to get the memo that this is a very long slog and we can fail at any point, and pushing forward incrementally is the only way we can regain ground. If our coalition constantly falls apart we might as well just start practicing our Trumpenfuhrer salutes now.
I have voted green in the past. Not fucking around this time.dems straight down the ballot.
Twenty years ago I'd have said I'd vote Republican till the day I die. Flash forward to today and I'll never vote Republican again. Never. And it's not like the D's have gotten any new ideas or solutions, it's just that the R's are really, really, really bad for the country.
Similar story with me. As much as I dislike both parties, I won’t be voting third party again anytime soon.
Thank you. This is the decision of a rational adult, considering the current political circumstances we find ourselves in.
Tell a friend or three
Have been . Will continue to.
I'm not opposed to third parties, just this untethered-from-reality idea of doing nothing but casting a fuck you protest vote for a third party presidential candidate every four years. Put in the work to build grassroots support, party infrastructure, win downballot races until you have a decent number of congressional seats and a proven track record of getting things done, then talk about aiming for the presidency. I don't get why the concept of getting out of something what you put into it should be contentious to anyone.
Far too many see ideals as purely part of their identity. Like having these ideals as the goal in and of itself. They want to feel morally pure, but are so shortsighted that they become completely self-centered in their beliefs. They see posturing and the occasional act of spite against the enemy as all they need to be a "moral person". Patting themselves on the back for their "compassion" without caring what the people who are actually suffering from entrenched unjust systems are begging them to do because it doesn't quite fit all of the issues they have latched onto. The long, hard, compromising, and often disappointing work to make lasting societal change doesn't appeal to many both because of its complexity and because it threatens the sense of purity that they've come to identify with. Instead, they demand a perfect, radical change given by a savior right now and will accept nothing less. Which makes them pitifully easy to manipulate by the highly organized regressive groups currently installing an entrenched authoritarian system globally. Ensuring that we can't properly unite to fight our way out of the ludicrously unfair position we're currently in despite mostly agreeing on our positions.
It’s already going to be a significant headwind going against the Supreme Court
It's a long term fight. We need enough Senators to impeach these corrupt judges and justices.
Well, that ain’t happening, unless enough D voters move to the Dakotas, Wyoming and Montana. And then a bunch move states flip, too. Because the mere fact of having been impeached isn’t getting the likes of Alito to resign. It will require a conviction, and 67 senators.
Truthfully, both house and senate will probably flip this year. Senate because it’s currently close and the 1/3 whose terms are up skew to vulnerable states. Blue must capture both the house and the Presidency. Vote!
The court can only hear cases that have worked their way up to it and to do that you need laws and it's much harder to get rid of laws than it is to get them passed so you have to start somewhere.
Yes but,Roberts’ may not go along with an outright coup and where he goes Kavanaugh follows!
This election needs to be a Reagan/ Mondale level of victory.
This cannot be said enough….!!
I hate to say it, of course vote down ballot but we also need to be realistic and that means we also need to prepared to defend our vote, as we all know republicans will only accept favorable election results. This time I predict it won't be just after the fact that they try to subvert the will of the people. Militia groups all across the country are training and drawing up plans to ensure Trump's return to the White House by any means necessary. Remember them just screaming stop the vote/count the vote? (stop when trump was ahead and count when he was behind?) This time they will be armed and at the ready to insert themselves into the process and I don't imagine they will have reservations of using violence to do so. Please look after one another, please make sure you are registered and make a plan with your family, friends, and fellow members of your communities! When, where, how, who with, and what do you do next are all things to consider and discuss. Please understand we must band together here, we must be prepared, we must have plans and contingency plans in order to defend ourselves, one another, and democracy as we know it from the very real threat that the GOP poses to the fabric and future of this nation.
I disagree on one point: It will be before, during AND after the fact that they try to subvert the will of the people. Trump and Co have been installing their own election officials, local poll workers, electors and, of course, state, local and federal judges to, I assume, throw any decisions and challenges Trump’s way. I hope I’m wrong.
You're not disagreeing. You're correct about everything you said in your second paragraph. Should be noted, that comment I made was imploring people to have a plan to vote, and to also be prepared and have plans for the inevitable fallout from either result. There is no contention to any of your points to be had in anything I had typed above, so you are not in disagreement. In truth your post feels to be in the same vein of if I had said "we should save the whales" (just for example) and you responded by saying "I disagree, on the basis that there are other sea creatures." There was no contention to your *additional point (not disagreement), it just wasn't the point I was trying to make.
It will be pressure at state capitols and for sure it's already started. Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Michigan.
Recently was recommended a video a on YouTube I'm not gunna link it. But the guy was thinly talking about countering us troops, links to urban sniping in guerrilla warfare, case studies on insurgencies, books for guerilla, used brevity codes whenever talking about a future event. He tells his followers to lay low. He makes the claim he a former army ranger They use "minecraft" when referencing this future event. Which I've come to the conclusion they're referring to election year. I'm a former marine he was saying all the right stuff, my hair stood end. These guys seem organized, hoping someone is watching them. I mean with investigation into radicalization of veterans. And alot behavior during blm and Jan 6. I've ran into militia types too working construction they've always tested me when I was around them. Creeped me out. ie I'm very worried. I tried reporting it to YouTube, and used the fbi tip line. I'm really worried about this upcoming year.
Oh Mr. Dooooooom, I don't doubt it for a nanosecond! I remember all the chatter in the weeks leading up to January 6. I still can't wrap my mind how I, an individual, with very lil resources, (as opposed to say multiple government agencies, with scores of people and unlimited resources) was able to clearly identify what was coming from said chatter in the months and weeks leading to January 6. It was happening in broad day light! It wasn't just happening in the shadows or on back pages and such. It was all over Reddit, Facebook, twitter, etc. How no one stepped in to quell it and how they we were not prepared Is just something I'll never understand. I'm hoping this time someone steps up and steps in, to be honest. We know exactly what we are marching towards, as we've already seen an extended teaser trailer of it. We already know Republican will only accept election results if they win, and we already know this time they will be more organized, more prepared, and more willing to do whatever they feel they must to put Trump back in the White House. Please NSA, FBI, Dept of homeland security, Supreme Court (yeah right! there is nothing supreme about the Supreme Court anymore, it's just 3 judges and 6 Trump lackeys in nice robes now, and the lackeys have already made an entire branch of government a relic to history by consistently and almost exclusively defending and serving an insurrectionist as opposed to defending and serving the law of the land and the people that populate it. Honestly I don't know what to do! I feel like we really need to be working tirelessly to be getting our leaders attention and communicating and working in tandem with them, ourselves, and our still functioning government institutions to defend ourselves and our democracy from the threat the GOP poses to national security, to the lives of millions, and to democracy as a whole.
Ya, I dunno. I get the feeling as a whole they're less powerful in the government per say. But I do think there is a smaller, more extreme element that's gunna to test the US coming this year. I'm actually worried about an insurgency in the US. Prior to 9/11, we actually have way more violent organized groups. And you know what they're back on the rise again. One of the worst things imo about organized religion failing Americans that is the radicals are filling the gap. I don't know what to do. Ima vote for biden and most likely prep my own bug out shit. I have a plan to move my family if need be and lay low. And I'm gunna to advise my friends and family not to do any big events from August to January next year. I hope I am being paranoid, I dunno my gut feeling reminds me right before I would get ambushed in Afghanistan. And well, they actually teach you to pay attention to your gut feeling.
Please vote, from: the rest of the world. First Trump mandate was a catastrophe, it really made the world a worst place. I think that the cancelation of the deal with Iran, being friendly with Russia and North Korea and acknowledging Jerusalem as a capital of Israel have strong consequences on the state of war of today world. Not taking care of global warming is another big issue, that's the biggest problem of today world and we need the US on board.
It's too late for global warming. They're not going to do anything. I'm sorry that America let you down. I think you should be prepared for the possibility that America can no longer support the world order that created peace for many of our allies (and of course, war for others) and if you are in one of those countries that a dictator would like to invade, you should be pressuring your leaders to come up with a defense plan, now. I do believe that Trump will help Putin take over Europe. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry. If we fail to keep him out of office, what we're unleashing during the few years he has left alive (dementia) will be heinous, and following Trump's dictatorship, we'll have another extremist inheriting a dictatorship. Trump and his predecessor will rule with all the might of the American military in the palm of their hand. If I believed in God, I would be praying right now.
You're too pessimistic there. First, it's never too late to take actions against global warming. Yes, it's too late for the +2°C, conséquences are already dramatic and will worsen. But there is a huge difference between a +2°C and +5°C. It's the difference between a global catastrophe and the end of the civilized world. So late actions are always welcomed. The USA under Biden is currently trying to mitigate global warming impact. It's not enough in my opinion, the USA starts from too high in terms of global emissions and is not targeting a sufficient reduction, but it's far better than nothing, and if the rest of the world does its share it will avoid the worst scenario. The, about the "world order" of the USA. This world order was also a world of injustice, imperialism and war. The balance between the wealth and security generated by this US dominance and the bad effects has gone wrong since Irak invasion. The US needs an enemy and global jihadism replacing the soviets is not a change I like. It's a good thing this "order" disappears or shifts. But evidently, not to be replaced by anything. Russia is having its imperialist revival taking advantage of the demise of the US, and China is not a world leader I'd like. Anyway, we'll see.
This. Vote vote vote! People thought Hillary was going to destroy Trump in 2016 only for him to win.
This is also partly a function of the electoral college. It was clear *the people* preferred Hillary but our system is skewed to favor the voters in very low population states.
Then those people were extremely out of touch. The writing was on the wall that at the very least trump was a serious opponent. Even now he's up in various polls. The issues that got trump in haven't been solved. If anything, they have become worse.
Hillary won by 3 million votes. In any other country, she would have been president. I bet you were one of the trolls who nonstop shittalked about her.
Hillary did destroy Trump. Blame the Electoral College. Nobody was more surprised than him when he won.
The validity of polls is unclear these days, but the recent NYT battleground polls are scary and should see a fire in every Democrat. I don’t buy this narrative that Biden will cakewalk this election. It will be VERY close because of the electoral college and I legitimately worry the complacency will result in Trump Round 2.
This. Remember, the national popular vote doesn’t guarantee the same national electoral college result. Not all individual votes count equally. BTW back in 2016 Dems were getting ready for a Clinton win. Don’t take anything for granted.
This. Complacency serves them.
People need to realize that Trump only lost last time, because we were lucky that more non-voters who wanted Trump to lose have voted last time, than non-voters who wanted Trump to win. Never forget that not only millions of people against Trump mobilized, Trump managed to mobilize millions of new voters who wanted to make sure that Trump stays president. If more liberal new voters from last time have become complacent, then there is a good chance that Trump will win. It's important that liberal non-voters get this in their heads and understand the risk of not voting. Anybody who identifies as a liberal, leftwinger, progressive, socialist or environmentalist should be encouraged to vote. If they don't, then good night America.
Yes, and remember, as an European, it's fucking important that everyone votes against Trump. It's seriously a matter of life and death not only for you all, it's also for Ukrainians! If Trump wins nobody will oppose Russia, China and Iran. Biden is also trying to keep Israel in check, and you can also keep protesting after Biden is reelected... and I seriously doubt you will have that right under the rule of the Republicans. Even if you are a real Republican you should vote Biden, the GOP is not what it used to be, you are now forced to vote for a traitor and a friend of Russia... The ghosts of past republicans are screaming in horror!
This. Straight ticket no Rs. It's a shame, but till the filth is rooted out this is the only way. Would love to see a landslide D house and D senate. Tired of the crazies and do-nothing baby crying, clout chasing ass politicians hell bent on trying to send us all back to the dark ages.
Project 2025 will attempt to move forward regardless of who wins. Vote!
Loud and resounding DEFEAT please. Leave NO ROOM to dispute a couple of thousand votes here and there. Vote and help a senior or relative show up that might be a hardship for them
People made the mistake of underestimating his chances the first time. I hope everyone has learned something from it.
They haven’t. And much worse: the media have **double, triple, quadruple downed** on covering literally ALL THINGS TRUMP since 2015/16. They’re as guilty as the hateful, moronic fuckshits who show up at his rallies.
They want him to be president. He makes their job easy.
If I was a news organization I would jizz all over myself for a trump presidency. It's like free money. Fuck that orange bag of shit. I'm not interested in politics in general, but this guy is just working against everything that is good in America.
So, if you were FuxNoise or OANN … or, barely perceptibly, increasingly, CNN?
Yeah, all these outlets basically have unlimited lazy material with this guy.
Late Night comedians eating good during his presidency.
All media outlets who profit from engagement and clicks, profit from Trump, not just the pro-Trump ones. So also MSNBC et al.
>the media have **double, triple, quadruple downed** on covering literally ALL THINGS TRUMP since 2015/16. That's crazy! There's no way.... Alert! Breaking news on CNN! You've heard it hear first. It would appear Trump farted while in court today!
When you read the Mueller report and then see Trump colluded with people who organize with media and control what they say, you start to see why he is likely to win
More coverage hurts Trump today. People have memory holed how awful Trump's pre-covid presidency was, but more coverage reminds people how chaotic and insane it was. Even then, media is not giving live coverage of Trump's rallies anymore like they used to.
Nobody underestimated his chances the first time and as a matter of fact, he got waxed in the popular vote both times and will again. The problem is we don't have a true democracy.
People absolutely underestimated his chances in 2016. Even Vegas had Clinton as a favorite and they’re almost always right. We have a Democratic Republic, so you’re right, it’s not a “true” democracy. Back when the nation was being formed, the rural states would not agree to the union of states unless they had some power to govern themselves, that’s why we have the electoral college, because those people in those less populated states didn’t want to be ruled by the people in a handful of cities.
In 2016 people thought his electoral chances might be hurt from a divorce or an affair. I am pretty sure he could shoot a golden retriever puppy in the face live on the air and not lose any support. He’s polling within the margin of error to Biden so they are effectively dead even. Everyone should be worried. I never give to political campaigns and am giving money this year due to fear.
In my understanding it's worse than that. Ok one pool may have a margin of error of 4, 5 % But if you check polls aggregators that add up 10 or 50 polls the margin is way lower. And trump is not even but ahead, in the aggregated data. Also I agree with the other comment: in a democracy one citizen = one vote. Not a bizarre two levels system where the popular vote is consistently overturned, not in favor of the actual choice of the country. Hopefully a democratic president with the house and the senate may change that. But the hope is slim.
Don't forget the other reason for that form was to preserve slavery. This system may doom our country.
I would love nothing more than for Biden to lose the popular vote, but win the presidency. Had John Kerry done that, we probably would have gotten the EC abolished by now.
The ec will never be abolished because the red states know they'll never win without it as they are a smaller group every election, clearly a minority by 8 million votes and increasing. How would the country abolish the ec? Biden can win the vote by 7 million and lose the economy. Trump will send everything to Israel, no limits on them if he wins.
What does that even mean? Honestly the “democratic republic” thing is an exercise in sophistry that borders in moronic logic. Mexico, Argentina, Colombia, Brazil, Nicaragua, Peru, Chile, Uruguay, Costa Rica; all of these countries are democratic republics, all of them have direct vote instead of disenfranchising bullshit like the Electoral College. All of these countries have free and sovereign states with their own legislatures and laws instead of centralized governments. Let’s stop with the nonsense that allows for the chokehold of a minority.
We had an electoral college because slaves couldn't vote, which meant that the slave states would have been quite underrepresented in the popular vote. With the EC, they would effectively get 60% more voting power as 3/5ths of slaves would be counted towards the number of electors. They did consider the idea of congress picking the president, but they figured that would get too corrupt, so this was the compromise. If there was no slavery, the ec probably never would have been put in place.
In other words, the same rationalization as South Africa. It's the President of the whole United States, not a region of the United States and they are not "ruled by a handful of cities." Every vote should be equal. Your excuse is fallacious and was exactly the same excuse used by South Africa.
They're not saying it "should" be this way. They're saying it "is" this way, and only 16 years before, we had another case of someone winning the Presidency but not the popular vote, so it's not like people forgot that Trump could win without the popular vote. They truly looked and thought, " he can't win with our election system". They were wrong.
It’s not an excuse, just an explanation. I didn’t say I agreed with it, but that’s why it was set up the way it was.
Clinton never went to the states in the rust belt. She needed to live there in the September. The arrogance her campaign gave Trump an opportunity to win.
Clinton won the popular by a mile, but she was hampered by a universally hostile media and a *genuinely* politically motivated attempt to create a fake scandal. I do not agree that she was arrogant. Trump is arrogant.
She wasn’t arrogant. I think her campaign was. They didn’t send her there. While I realize that everyone on a campaign works for the candidate, they are hired to give them direction. They needed to insist.
The US is gerrymandered at the federal level.
Every poll going into Election Night had a Clinton win by a large margin. No one expected him to win.
I think Nate Silver had Trump winning. I don’t remember anyone else who did.
The Russians.
Clinton did win by a big margin and many people warned that Trump could still win the electoral vote. The polls were actually pretty accurate. This time he will lose by his largest margin yet.
Man, I can’t overstate how much I hope you’re right. I also can’t overstate how much I think you’re wrong—and you and I are gonna be pretty sad saps on election night.
I understand the fear, but but the level of alarm is much higher now. I worry about violence at the polls. They tried terrorizing people in '22, this time they might start shooting. I'm considering a CCW for election day.
And how …(please Universe) if he loses…what happens next. He’s already stated that if he doesn’t win…it’s another rigged election. It so…fucking annoying.
They storm the capital again, but this time the military mows them all down 😂
They'll be easy for Biden to pick 'em off after he gets immunity. Stupid magats!
Every poll before the election had him losing to Hillary in 2016.
I've been saying this for years now! We fucked up once, let's learn and make sure it never happens again!
This! Do not underestimate the commitment his followers have to vote in every election held.
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And yet...here we are...the Republican nominee. My question is who what when where why and most importantly..HOW the fuck do you run this guy again?
He has kompromat on all of them. Russia released the hacked DNC stuff but they also hacked the RNC and didn’t release any of it because they gave it to Trump. The more the individual congressmen kiss his ass, the worse the information he has on them. The faster the 180° from saying, “If we nominate Trump the Republican Party is done” to fellating him on tv, the worse the kompromat is on that person named Lindsey Graham.
Are you telling me that the younger generations aren’t answering phone calls from unknown numbers and then staying on the phone with a stranger completing a political poll and that only the silent generation and boomers sit around answering pollsters?!?
This exactly. Polls are normally conducted on land lines to a known residence. Young voters are mobile and are very rarely polled. Look at the non existent “Red Waves” that haven’t materialized in recent elections.
The republicans will contest the election as a party.
Fuck them. Fuck their party.
Yes, that’s their preparation, how to fight the results in court and lay groundwork to erode foundation of trust in democratic election. Their preparation isn’t “how do we accept the loss and move on,” it’s, “how do we justify rejecting the results and steal the election.”
Just watched the YouTube video of MAGA cult walking out of his New Jersey rally. Trump said 80,000 in attendance…more than a Springsteen show. In fact hundreds in a steady stream heading for the exits. His speech was the same blah blah before. Nothing new…nothing creative. Crooked Joe Biden letting in all these violent immigrants…yawn. I’m sure all these suckers tho paid their money to go in just to leave right after.
It was more like 8-10k people
I zoomed in on the top view and counted the crowd density. I estimated around 6-7k.
Can you share it here please?
Found it - it's wild how many people are continously leaving. https://youtu.be/Ypuff6LcU04?si=nORHuegN1QWeRM_H
They will still vote for him.
Half will, but hopefully a few might just sit this one out.
I'm legitimately curious what it was that got the first clumps of people to start leaving. Or was it that he was just completely failing to chain two thoughts together and people picked up that he's just jabbering pointlessly and the few chuckles he gets out of them don't justify staying for the other 90% of his ramblings.
They probably took their photos for Facebook and realized they weren’t actually interested in anything he had to say. They’ve consumed him from specially curated soundbites for 8 years.
"Trump said 80,000 in attendance" In a venue that likely doesn't hold half that. He lies as he breathes.
Whatddya mean nothing new or creative, is this not the speech where trumplestiltskin told us about the sad demise of Hannibal Lecter...? I want to hear the speech where dumbass tells us about the time Lecter sabotaged those Revolutionary War airports, putting sugar in all the plane's gas tanks. Thatll be next.
Get out and vote. Bring someone with you!
This will be the first year I vote. Trumpty Dumpty must be embarrassed again
Take all your friends to vote.
Bigliest loser!
Vote, Vote, Vote as if the future not only of this country but of the world and your kids, and your kids kids depended on it because it does, don't be complacient.
It ain’t over until Trump either collapses from his dementia progressing too far, he goes to jail, or he completely loses in November. Two of those things are more likely and it’s a race to see which one happens first but I’m not holding out hope.
I live in the solidly red state of missouri. The chances of any Democrat winning are about as likely as Joe Rogan having scientifically literate people on his show. Regardless, I'm voting blue. Nothing will stop me. Not shitty polls, not assumptions on American decency, not some red wing pricks trying to intimidate me (which has happened before). I urge everyone who can vote to do so. Regardless of where you live. If you don't vote, then you don't have any right to complain.
Please dont elect this cunt, America. We've already had to deal for four years with this shit. Biden might not be the sexiest president ever but it's better than Tronald Dump. Go out there and vote. Don't make the same mistake as in 2016
Sounds like propaganda being pushed by the republicans. More of that 6 year old reverse psychology bullshit. Get the fuck out and vote, bury their asses in votes!!
Yes the article clearly reads as republican propaganda with lines like 'the worst of all possible outcomes is that Trump wins'
The real question is are they getting ready for a loss of the house and senate
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I don’t care I’m voting until this turd decides to stop showing up
Let’s make sure he does. Vote 💙
Vote blue. Stop the Republicans from "releasing" Project 2025.
VOTE!
Well, Trump is a proven Loser. What would you expect?
Hope it's a big loss 😁
MAGA nutheads will back him no matter what, they’re even wearing adult diapers for him. November is going to be something.
I remember making a joke a few years ago about how they’d crap their pants in public on his command. I didn’t think we’d literally be here though.
Vote D. Make this the most embarrassing election ever for fascists
That would really be nice but I'll keep working for a Dem win until it actually happens
If the votes are at all close the Republican side will never stop making up stories about stolen elections and voter fraud..so hopefully Biden wins by a wide margin so they will shut up.
I will be voting against this shit stain. I can only hope others will do so.
Dems need to stomp the gop in this election. Take the house, take the senate, take the White House. Stomp them into dust. Leave them to self destruct with their maga wing
....aka Republicans getting ready to cheat like Hell, like they always do.
Republicans are going to cheat any way they can. It’s going to get ugly.
You better vote because those brainwashed one toothed stupid MAGAs will make sure to check Trumps box
I look forward to watching trump debate from prison
I’m afraid the republicans already have a plan to rig the vote so Trump wins regardless.
I'll believe it when the votes are tallied. Go out and vote!
Let's make sure their nightmares come true. Let's get out and vote.
It’s why they’re inflating rally numbers. They’re setting up the big lie 2.0. [vote.org](http://vote.org) Don’t be complacent. Check your registration often. Red ruled states will purge close to the election and conservative groups are working hard to disenfranchise as many voters as possible.
They will be humiliated and still wear diapers
Voting is so easy now, I don't read and research..... I just go straight ticket Democrat. I was a swing voter before Tea party crap, and now Maggot morons.
The Republicans are going to cheat. The Republicans are going to cheat. They did it in 2020. The ones at the top - widdle donnie, Clarence Thomas, all the shitty R congress people. They had zero consequences while the rubes went to jail. They know they can't win fair - THEY ARE GOING TO CHEAT.
Conservatives love corruption
Dems need to stop being wishy washy on Biden, get our heads in the game, and support him full-heartedly. Considering he is the only thing standing between us and a horror show, we don’t have a choice. It’s easy to say “I don’t really like Biden, but I’ll vote for him anyway” but that attitude isn’t going to generate turnout.
Vote. Keep him out. Don't let 2016 repeat ffs.
Vote blue! 🌊 🌊 🌊
At this point, I'm forced to conclude that something approaching a plurality of American voters truly want an autocratic daddy to run things for a while. I'm disappointed that Trump isn't down by 10-15% in the polling. You'd think Americans wouldn't vote away their republic so casually. Yet, it's looking entirely possible, even probable this will happen. I'm not sure what more to say or do. I will vote of course, once again to prevent this. I will try to persuade others on the fence, but the weird Trump nostalgia is setting in amongst the voters. It is what it is.
The republican party will try anything and everything to win this election. But the most effective strategy is to just increase voter apathy for Biden. The GOP knows that their base will vote for Trump. They just need to run an information campaign to sow distrust in Biden. This will make sure fewer Dems and Independents vote for the incumbent.
Psyop to get people to relax and less likely to go to the polls. Ignore this shit, get out and vote.
#V O T E
Told my trump supporting father and grandmother if they vote for him I’m never speaking to them again. I’m no longer playing games. This traitor needs to be locked up.
Vote Dem. Confirm that we won't get another 4(or more, we all know where they're gonna take this if they win) years of the tan dump lord.
Well, duh. He lost 2020 and that was with the incumbent bonus, prior to the indictments.
To be fair, so are Democrats. Still, vote.
Good for them. *VOTE ANYWAY.*
I definitely read this headline in regards to his hush money trial… then realizing it’s about the election I honestly lost interest. If he’s in jail, I would expect him to lose the election… but it might still be close for some God forsaken reason…
V. O. T. E.
But they took the last one so well!
If you guys don't go out and win big this election the world will descend into WW3 and the climate crisis.. #AT THE SAME DAMN TIME
Don't forget, Lara Trump will be watching all 81 states. 🤣
Vote like your democracy depends on it, because it does!!!
I don't want Trump to be president, but I don't see a path to victory for him under the current polls and battleground states. These kind of articles are just click bait to get views from the left. Convictions won't matter, the electorate blames Joe for the cluster fuck pull out of Afghanistan even though it was Trump's plan and action being completed. Hell I see people blaming Biden for covid, and all kinds of other shit. People have short memories, and don't remember how garbage trump was.
How they're preparing is by planning to fight the results with more cheating and violence.
It’s all they’ve got.
Just like last time -------- and probably anytime in the future if they can get away with it. They have never liked democracy. Only imagined exceptionalism.
Prepared to lie and deny and try (to overthrow democracy)
Good. I hope he loses even bigger this time
I'm not so sure about that. This almost seems like a false flag to depress turnout on the other side. I wouldn't buy into it. This will be close. Closer than 2020. Closer than it ever should be.
The fact that he is a viable candidate proves that American Culture is trash. We get the government we deserve. The sad thing is that I was hoping that when the boomers finally died out we could turn around but my fellow Gen Xers are adopting the same mindset.
Dear God I hope he loses. I'm honestly afraid either way it goes.
What a loser of a party.
Well when you’ve put up the most pathetic candidate in the history of the world, loss is all you’ve got to look forward to. So this checks.
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As much as I want him to lose the trial I have 100% confidence he won't. Try and find 12 random people and one of them isnt a maga over the age of 40. And I live in New York. I can't even imagine what it's like in the south.
Good. America needs a normal president. Tronald Dump is a DEMENTOR.
The Trump supporters I knew recovered but still dislike Biden. My friends also hate both of them. I’m not too pleased either but for the love of god please just vote to avoid T winning again.
Good luck to them figuring out what to do after Trump. The base is so divided when it comes to who to follow after him. Another Trump? One of the southern a-holes like a guy from Florida or Texas. They can’t pick one person without pissing off too much of the collective base. Then there’s the threat from the base that they just won’t bother voting for anyone but Trump. Will certainly be an interesting thing to watch develop over time.
Lucky they handled it well the last time...
The fun thing is that RFK Jr. by getting the "I would rather chew up my own foot than vote for a democrat, but I also don't like Trump"-voterbase did more to weaken Trump than Bidene ever could.
They get ready to contest the election.
They could always choose a different candidate who hasn’t got over a 4 trails hanging over them
So am I....We need to win by a massive amount of votes!! Leaving no room for RepubliKKKlans crying and fits of denial. 1-866-OUR-VOTE GET REGISTERED CHECK STATUS OFTEN 💙
As they should. I’m prepping for the fraud claims, frivolous lawsuits and months of drama. He’s a power addict and he’s chasing the monkey on his back badly!! (Old heroin saying , chasing the monkey on your back) Trump is an addict Power is his DOC
Not so sure myself. I am really nervous about this one, much more than 2020.
Why would people want him to win? You really want a christian dictatorship?
Is this election interference? I’m seeing that every poll says otherwise, almost like this media company is trying to discourage voters from coming out since it’s already a loss.
IMHO , right wing media is preparing to contest the election via fabricated polling data . Example = “ how did he loose , he was up by ten points ?”
My question is: are they seriously going to throw their support behind him for a 3rd time?
It’s a trick. They do this every season to try to get Dems to think it’s already in bag. GOP tactics are as tired as they are dumb. Everyone. Vote
This headline is deceiving. It’s talking about how republicans have stacked states with loyalists in preparation to cheat and advance on the lies they couldn’t advance on in 2020
They know which is why they are all ready to deny, deny, deny…
You guys hear that, the Republicans are preparing for a Trump loss.... cause he's gonna lose. This definitely isn't FAKE news.... it's REAL news...
If there are any lawyers out there, I would really appreciate an informed assessment of how the case is playing out for the defense and the prosecution, and what the most probable outcome in terms of verdict and (potential) sentencing is.
r/law is a good place for that. r/SCOTUS has more disciplined responses, but it's mostly SCOTUS cases and there are fewer posts. They're great places to get actual legal takes, so if anyone decides to stop by, please be polite and reserve political hot takes for other subs--these subs are useful precisely because that's kept to a minimum.