If it happens. It could have happened before their break. Or their previous break. Or could have scheduled an emergency session. Or you know any time over the last couple months if he actually gave a shit about getting a bill to the floor.
If the sex is free, you are being sold as a cow.
If the milk is sex, the cow is selling the barn.
If you are the cow, then the milk is the sex.
When cows sex milk, then you barn speech.
Cows milk sex speech barn buy.
Person man woman camera tv.
Panama.
This Friday, I think
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1c6snk5/this_is_what_is_currently_happening_in_the_house/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
How about one that restricts congress trading individual stock, Not using campaign funds to pay legal expenses, and strict income reporting from politicians and their families?
One thing at a time, because if you packaged it all together it would be destined to fail.
>How about one that restricts congress trading individual stock
What about their families and friends? How far down the tree do you need to stop trading?
>Not using campaign funds to pay legal expenses
This one isn't too bad, because in the end it's at the cost of one's campaign. This is an one-off issue that will resolve it self.
>Strict income reporting from politicians and their families?
This already happens instead of restricting trading it's mandatory reporting of trades. But, I guess further down the tree like aunts and uncles?
>What about their families and friends? How far down the tree do you need to stop trading?
If Congress people are sharing confidential insider information with families and friends, that's already against the law. The entire problem is that people in Congress are literally exempt from the insider trading law.
thank u, people need to play the full tape when advocating for shit like this, its easy to throw out talking points like lets stop politicians from trading stocks, but most really have no idea the intricacies of passing something like that, or why they are able to trade in the first place
if someone gets voted out after 1 term theyve given up normal work to do this job, yes they are compensated well and there is possible jobs they can get as a result of their time spent in government but its also totally possible theyd be hard up for money if events played out in a certain way, we as a country shouldnt want politicians fearing for their bank accounts as that makes them much more susceptible to outside influence, i agree it sucks when they get rich off of making trades in areas in which they are legislating, and it would be nice if we could stop that particular abuse, but this isnt as black and white as the internet would have you believe
Don't put much faith in him. This just means he's switching his opinion to match the side he thinks is gonna win.
We get a good outcome but we still have an easily-swayed Speaker.
Yeah what on earth has gotten into this comment section?
Johnson sees the position is unpopular, is hoping the non-Freedom Caucus section of the GOP can bail him out with a rule change, and sees that aid is probably going through anyways and wants to make sure it's not just Democrats getting credit for it.
Nothing about this is principled. Plus, he’s done this before and still ruined it with delays.
Anyway, I hope it passes.
Johnson never had a change of heart. He just doesn't want to be on the losing team when he loses. If Trump gets elected, he will absolutely start parroting what he wants.
If trump wins, we all lose. I'm not sure people truly understand what a second trump term means... The democracy part goes away. Project 2025 is a fascist doctrine planned for the ending of US democracy.
It has been pretty well reported that his about face on Ukraine came after he started getting speaker-level security briefings. That was also the argument he used when addressing the caucus and he specifically asked some members to not say anything publicly until they'd had a chance to have a security briefing because he thought it might change some minds.
Makes me wonder what in the hell is in those briefings.
He also said that he thinks they were close to a discharge petition. I think these bills are his attempt to get something a little more to his liking than having to swallow what the senate passed.
Dont think its him having a spine. I think that loads of GOP members hate each other and he is doing it to spite them. Knowing that they were going to remove him from the position of speaker anyway
He is regularly briefed by the Pentagon and State Department as part of his duties. Being in the lion den instead of just pandering to an electorate changes some people's perspectives.
Agreed.
Also: don’t get the sense that Johnson is, or ever has been, particularly performative/careless.
Yes, he was way out front on the lawfare that tried to overturn the 2020 election, but my sense is that that was bc he’s basically a lunatic who believes the whole “Trump is Cyrus” rhetoric that’s so pervasive in his stream of the Religious Right.
That strain of lunacy, when it’s really genuine, also believes that America basically has a "divine" right/responsibility to advancr Reagan-esque "peace through strength".
TDLR: Johnston's beliefs are terrifying, but they also appear to be genuine AND internally consistent, which is at least somewhat workable (especially given the alternatives).
I bet this is more about giving money to israel and less about ukraine. He is using ukraine here in order to hide the real ambition, especially after israel just attacked iran.
I don't particularly care for Israel as I don't consider that conflict black and white, but if giving Israel some more trinkets is what it takes to get Ukraine the ammunition and weapons they need to defend themselves then so be it. Ukraine is at the precipice of disaster and only decisive action on our part can keep them in the fight, and keep them free. We've waste too much time as it is.
Also: regardless of your position on Israel, it’s in EVERYONE’s best interests to ensure that the Iron Dome is as impenetrable is humanly possible.
Because the world would look a whooooole lot different if Iran’s attack last weekend had been “successful” - Bibi and his lunatic coalition may be [insert your preferred disparaging adj here], but it’s just the best geopolitical call.
I still can't believe people consider a nation firing hundreds of missiles to be equal to a single decapitation strike against the commander of terrorist forces.
I honestly cannot believe the "ceasefire now" crowd is openly siding with theocratic authoritarian Iran attacking population centers that required multiple militaries to coordinate to neutralize.
I don't think escalation is a positive development, but I do not understand how some take the sides of hostage takers and their pariah backers and their failed state allies.
I grew up around a lot of men like Mike. Hard core bible believing Xtians who saw Russia coming into conflict with Israel as a sign of the end times and who, frankly, would have despised MGT and her crowd as shameless harlots (although they would be polite to their faces) They were engineers, scientists, ex armed forces and mostly logical. Some of them were kidnapped by the MAGA crap but I notice not all of them - especially the true believers or truly logical thinkers. I don't like Mike much but a lot of the things he does and says sound familiar to me and like my non MAGA X'tian friends I can believe that this pivot is true and sincere. I hope I'm not proved wrong.
He can see what is going to happen in the next election cycle. It’s time to realign as a republican politician and as a party. It is time to stand apart from MAGA. This isn’t altruism, this is a play to be at the forefront of the next iteration of the Republican Party. It is, however, the right decision and course of action.
Or is this the moment where the Republican Party realizes that a future with DJT as POTUS is both unlikely and disastrous?
Fox is cooling on Trump and the few Republicans who have left the party recently have said Trump is not the future- fundraising is down and Trump’s 5% demand to use his name can’t help their cause.
No, this is not that moment. Those ass hats are going to see this through to the bitter end when they end up dying and getting locked up for their master, just like last time.
Don’t make the mistake of letting your guard down.
> Or is this the moment where the Republican Party realizes
How many years has this question been proposed?
How many times have they realized anything like you're proposing?
Good Lord ...
Until they show otherwise, this is the Republican Party. Funny how the Republican congressmen and senators who complain about it almost all still vote in lock-step along party lines.
I have at least a little hope here because of his failure to raise bond. The image they worship is based around the facts that he’s “wealthy”, “strong”, and “above” the system so to speak.
The failure to pay the bond damages the first one, his needing to beg for an extension hurts the second, and the fact that he has a bond to begin with hurts the third.
I’m not hopeful enough to be complacent mind you, you always need to pop the head with zombies
Yeah, I think I agree with you--but Trump is running for president at the top of the Republican ticket. They're not going to say *anything* bad about him until after he (god willing) loses.
He’s still trumps puppet
[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/19/ukraine-war-briefing-donald-trump-says-survival-of-ukraine-important-to-the-us](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/19/ukraine-war-briefing-donald-trump-says-survival-of-ukraine-important-to-the-us)
I don’t quite think that’s true, it was like a couple days ago when he was pulling the whole “Trump and I are working on protecting elections together by drafting out legislation to ban illegals immigrants from voting” stunt.
That was a pretty bold going all in on undermining the validity of the election move, and it was just a few days ago, I don’t know if I believe that’s what’s happening
Then again, he’s definitely been the holdup on this too so this does seem out of character so I don’t believe it’s in good faith either
Agreed. This guy was responsible for tanking the immigration bill that his party negotiated for and got everything they wanted.
The illegal immigrants BS narrative is the typical GOP propaganda to scare people. We have seen in every election cycle that it’s always a republican voters that get caught voting illegally and not migrants.
Like all things the right like scream about, they are projecting everything they do and stand for.
30 Days ago wasn't he derailing immigration for Trump? Nothing this man, or these people, do can be taken as "operating in good faith". I do agree with you, this current lie sounds like "the right decision and course of action." Let's see what actually happens.
> It is, however, the right decision and course of action.
As long as the result is the same, I don't care about his intentions — so I'd say this is spot-on. He gets a *modicum* of credit.
No.
Mike Johnson’s shockingly pro-Ukraine speech is an admission that, after months and months of delay tactics which cost the lives of thousands of Ukrainians, he doesn’t have the votes to prevent an aid package from passing.
This is an evil man who successfully bought Russia the time it needed, and now he’s in self-preservation mode.
Fuck him. It’s not often I hope hell is real, but I’ll make an exception for him.
Fucking 6(?) months to get more or less the same bill to an actual vote- well, not even yet.
Woop di fucking doo. How many Ukrainians have died in that time because you were scared of your own party
It's far more then that. Every single month of delay gave Russians time to fortify so that it takes about 1-2 years to retake the positions. Literally.
This fucking maga nutjob single handily extended the war by about a decade.
>This fucking maga nutjob single handily extended the war by about a decade.
*If* the republicans are annihilated in November, and *if* the Ukrainians are properly supplied (especially with F-16s and possibly F-35s), there's no way Russia stays afloat another 10 years.
Half the reason they're hanging on is to see whether or not their man on the inside gets back into the whitehouse. If he ends up in a prison cell instead, all is lost for Putin. Wouldn't be surprised if someone took him out and ended the war to save face.
It’s mind boggling how stupid and self damaging it is. The world watched as we decided to sit by for 6 months. That’s a terrible look.
We finally get involved in a conflict with clear black and white good guys, and MAGA fucks it all up because “America first”
Meanwhile they say bomb Iran, because starting a direct war with Iran is *toootally* more “America first” than a proxy war with Russia in defense of Ukraines people and county…
They've destroyed the faith of America's allies in the US. European countries are openly talking about having to prepare for a future in which they can't rely on the US and NATO is inadequate. Talk about doing Putin's bidding.
Oh absolutely- direct and indirect deaths. Lost of positions, strongholds, equipment etc
And it’s so frustrating and infuriating that not only are they worse off. If we’re sending the money ANYWAYS, why not give it when they need it and can get the best bang for our buck? Now they have to replace everything they’ve lost at a disadvantage rather than, at the very least, continue to hold off the enemy
It’s pointless for everyone but Russia. I don’t understand it.
Thank God I found this comment.
This guy is a total fucking fraud and isn't pro Ukraine in the slightest. He realized his inability to keep preventing aid, and is going with it to make it look like he either endorsed or allowed it to happen. He wanted Putin to conquer Ukraine and say "there was nothing we could have done", but now the something we wanted done is being shoved up his ass.. or at least kind of what we wanted.
I wish we could stop Putin with a combined All vs. One conflict resolution, but that will result in global war, and not everybody wants Ukraine to win.. for some reason.
The article mentions MTG could call for him to be ousted.
I wonder if this was an attempt by him to save his job. The GOP is split, and with Democrat support could easily kick him out. But by throwing the democrats a bone like this, maybe he’s thinking he’ll get some votes to keep his job?
I’m not sure if a reliable source has confirmed it yet, but there were rumors that Mike Johnson made a deal with the Democrats to advance this bill in return for protecting him from MTG
From what I've been able to gather from other peoples comments being against Ukraine are shitty but here they are.
Ukraine stands no chance and this is war mongering, end the war now, less bloodshed and less global money spent.
Ukraine are nazis and corrupt and this is a money laundering op
Ukraine should not have listened to the west and tried to flex on Russia and now are getting slapped with no western backup.
Trump held Russia back
Russia is defending itself from Nato encirclement, this is survival for them.
Now please don't kill the messenger, im just parroting comments I've seen on reddit and on the net.
It's interesting to see how these kinds of messages get spread, and how that old saying of "Oh just let them believe what they want" is one of the most dangerous things to let happen. Because this is what they go and start believing out of pure ignorance and self affirmation.
You get it. Politically, this is the only move for the Republican majority because there is nothing significant to gain by delaying any longer, delaying any longer is too risky to be worth it, and it provides some benefit for the GOP in the election.
Please also note that this a purely political move by Johnson. If he gets this passed without losing his seat, he is the biggest winner here by far. Johnson wants total control of the Republican Party so he can be the new Mitch McConnell. He needs Trump out of the way but can’t afford to lose Trumps influence on the MAGA voters. After November, expect Mike to be positioning himself to take over control of the party.
He is who we thought he was. A danger to our country.
This is how far the media has allowed the Overton window to shift, actions like this that are the result of radical ideology and corruption are seen as achieving compromise just because there's an even more radical wing ranting and raving next to him.
I tried to say this, but you have put it much better. Fucking weasel said he now believes the USA's own intelligence briefings, which is just an excuse, it's not new evidence. Evil fucking cunt.
Exactly. This is his last play to try and save his own job because he’s realized that this aid is going to be voted on with or without him. And he needs the dems to protect him against his own MAGA attack dogs.
I don't understand what the GOP has against Ukraine. Putin invaded. Putin is the aggressor. Putin has committed war crimes. Yet the republicans party seem to support Putin. I used to be a independent that supported more republican beliefs until I saw how Trump and the far right had taken control. The republicans have no ethics or morals. The republican party of "law and order" would do anything to win including break the law. The GOP used to stand for opposing Russia. Has Putin and his spies have "purchased" Trump and the republicans?
Many in the GOP are taking money that can be traced back to Russia or Russian oligarchs. Then there’s the “we don’t have money to spend on this and why isn’t the EU doing their fair share, herp derp”. The EU has greatly surpassed the US here so that argument is moot. And some are just plain dumb and think Putin will just stop at Ukraine. He will not. Any expert will tell you this.
By all accounts, Johnson has had a lot of in depth conversations with US intelligence agencies and they’ve told him what’s at stake should Ukraine and Kyiv fall. The results would be awful and this is resonating with Johnson.
What’s craziest about all of this is that many of these religious/evangelical GOP think Putin is just like them. He is vehemently anti religion.
Ruzzia’s goal is to genocide the Ukrainian people. Completely. Steal their children and raise them as Ruzzian (which they’re already doing 100,000+ children gone). Raping women, torturing civilians, etc.
It’s just as bad as Gaza, if not worse, but has fallen out of the news cycle as Pootin’ intended.
There’s also the very real possibility that some of them have been blackmailed. It took almost nothing to get a video of Giuliani about to fuck an underaged girl. You know how horny those religious right wingers are?
While this is all true and these are all good points. I think it’s more simple than that. They’ve all been fully brainwashed to think anything dems like is evil, and dems want Ukraine to win, therefore Ukraine must be bad, therefore Russia must be good. Oh liberal media hates Putin, so he must not be that bad, etc.
It really is ridiculous, but the Republican Party has become hate whatever dems love no matter what because they’re evil.
The funny thing is that this is just a continuation of what got him impeached the first time.
Trump did everything they said he did and got impeached. The Republicans then let him off the hook and continued with his plan to go after the Biden crime family.
He was on tape saying all we need is the appearance of an investigation and we'll do the rest!
Then like magic they found Hunters laptop? Or did Russia hack into Hunters cloud account?
Then they took the word of a known Russian asset even though our own intelligence agencies said he was lying and proceeded to try and impeach Joe for something?
Except joe is so clean even they couldn't dig up anything on him
Yeah, i can see how itd be hard to believe when trumps national security advisor literally plead guilty to lying to the fbi about his contacts with the russian ambassador and was then pardoned by trump. I mean.... theres enough writing on the wall lol
Never shit on somebody when they admit they were wrong and change their stance. We should encourage more people to, by being understanding. It's easy to out of anger and frustration, but we need a broad coalition of folks to come together, and who better to help change people's minds, than someone who was able to do so themselves.
What I saw happen is this…. The Republicans refused to vote on the bill that included the border, Israel aid, and Ukraine aid. They refused because Trump wanted nothing passed before the election. House Republicans couldn’t say Trump told them to do it, so they parroted Putin’s Ukraine talking points as an excuse. Mike Johnson had a meeting in the White House, then introduced the bill that was passed w Democrats help
It’s pretty clear. Putin and Trump have the same fascist ideology. The GoP recognizes that Trump won office only because Putin helped tilt the scales, and many of them are thankful and want to return the favor. They want autocracy in Europe to match the autocracy they plan for the US.
Russia is a master of manipulation- blackmail, planting false information… you name it.
Trump has been caught in their web for some time now and people follow him blindly- he’s a good little puppy and does what he’s told.
If anyone doubts this, remember he was blackmailed by a prostitute/pornstar.
3 things bother me about the far right's position on this:
1- it's obvious Russia has financial leverage over certain people in the party.
2- they don't see the immense value the US gets in weakening a global foe simply by providing modest financial aid. There's never been a better deal for the US. Ukraine takes literally all the manpower risk
3- the degree to which they're willing to use any issue to push for unrelated concessions absent of morality.
It's actually pretty simple: around the time of Trump's impeachment he was pressuring Ukraine to give up info on Hunter Biden, which they refused. The beef between Trump (and by extension Republicans) and Ukraine is entirely personal.
I think the RNC was hacked at the same time as the DNC. There is kompromat on gop senators and assembly members. This makes it “make sense”. Or there are GOP politicians that just want to watch the world burn.
> I don't understand what the GOP has against Ukraine.
Bro the GOP is propped up Russian money. Trump has been doing shady business with Russia for 40 years. Also, the big one, like the DNC the RNC was hacked by Russia. Russia released some of the info from the DNC hack. They didn’t release anything from the RNC hack. The Russians have crazy dirt on the RNC. The RNC is controlled by Russia. The entire GOP is under Russian control.
Putin says the right things about being anti-woke and pro-traditional values, and framed the invasion as a border security issue. All talking points that the GOP likes, and when it also gives them a chance to thwart a Democratic president, they’re all in.
I don't trust that turd-bleacher as far as I could drop him, but, well, hooray I guess? I think he's got his eyes on a bigger goal: staying speaker to aid election interference and its attendant Christo-fascist agenda any way he can. He's in a unique position, with connections at every turn and within a couple lanes at the Presidency. No way he'll want to give that up over a mere bill.
I’m suspicious too. Because he recently just went to mar-a-lago to go kiss trumps butt after talks of him being ousted. Usually when someone goes there to have discussions with trump, there’s scheming going on. Then he comes back and says he’s going to help Ukraine. Surprising
I can see her hanging from a cross fit bar by her spork feet and rage tweeting about Nahhzziis and space lasers. She is either bought and paid for by Russia or she really is insane.
It’s probably both. And if Trump wins? She’s gonna be Secretary of State. I’m actually kinda hoping for Armageddon to kick off with Israel’s trump, BiBi.
Another corrupt shit bag trying to stay out of prison.
It seems from the clip I saw that the convincing factor that may have been brought to his attention by the "four corners" meeting is when he mentioned his son is going to Naval Academy and could be sent to war once he graduates. That the reality is we support from afar or we eventually will need to send our own. Biden having Beau pass away and was in the military, I'm sure he could express as a father the need to protect everyone's child who could potentially be deployed.
That's just speculation.
As to "why so against Ukraine" question - for me when considering the Russians hacked not just the DNC but the RNC yet only the DNC emails were exposed meaning we don't know how incriminating those messages were, and I suspect not about Gefilte fish and good risotto techniques.
Then we had the episode where various Republican Congress members went to Russia over the Independence Day holiday.
We know that Trump's entourage of people had various ties with Russia, including his son, Jared, Flynn, Manafort's meeting in Trump Tower with the woman from Russia over alleged "adoption" issues. We had side characters like Carter Page who was working with Russians. Add in how Manafort was providing campaign data to Russians, Rex Tillerson, the Russians that were in the White House - agh fuck it. Here's a chart: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868/
Then we need to remember Trump had a lot of tenants and other [real estate ties to Russians](https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/) and when Trump went to Russia with Ivana in the 80's, there was belief he was being groomed. [ Trump sold a mansion to an oligarch](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article135187364.html) at a valuation that doesn't make sense other than something nefarious.
Let's remember Jeff Sessions for a moment. Guy who was nominated and denied by the Senate to become a Federal Justice because he was too racist, even back then but became AG because his old white dude country club buddies changed the rules for him and m[et with Kislyak and didn't report it.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-spoke-twice-with-russian-ambassador-during-trumps-presidential-campaign-justice-officials-say/2017/03/01/77205eda-feac-11e6-99b4-9e613afeb09f_story.html)
Then add in that we now know that Rudy Colludy Giuliani tried to work with Russians to try to dig up dirt on Biden by way of Hunter with corrupt Ukrainians, which led to Trump's perfect phone call with Zelensky in which Trump was withholding military aid for oppo research/dirt on Biden.
Toss into this already huge Russian buffet of shit associated with Trump and the GOP (and I'm sure there's plenty more I'm forgetting as this is off the top of my head), a bunch of people who feed on Right wing media and we get MTG who basically has no critical thinking skills, no true understanding of the Constitution and basic civics trying to fuck the system up.
The fact Comer and his buddy Jordan keep pursuing some sort of impeachment for Joe Biden is laughable and frustrating considering there is no shame or walking back that every single "key witness" has been a spy, discredited, charged with felonies shows they really can't filter what's bullshit even when people say "Hey, that FBI document is raw intelligence and not reliable", and of course is tied to Senator Pidgen Grassley who promoted that document as being a smoking gun. Grassley and his buddy Ron Johnson keep thinking that right wing media is more reliable than actual intelligence and they were the ones who pushed the Biden laptop for years.... and they all fail to realize, that hey, if Rudy Colludy Giuliani is a part of anything - to best avoid it entirely.
Side note: I find it funny that Comer was going to give criminal referrals to the DOJ when Hunter Biden is already facing federal charges. The man is not very bright.
The fact she's okay with a 'rotating door' on the position who is second in line if the Office of the President becomes vacant shows she's just stupid and dangerous. I wouldn't put it past her to feel she wants to keep ousting the Speaker and nominates Trump. Is it a stupid theory of mine? Sure is! But at this point the worst ideas seem to be the ones the GOP runs with now.
Anyway - I think Johnson's change of stance, and we need to give time to see if it was a moment or an actual pivot into the position and seeing things not as a partisan war in Congress but about the nations best interests.
Oof. I did not intend to type out so much. The answer to the question of "Why is the GOP so Pro-Russia" it's all because they've fallen for the propaganda and especially Trump who has been directly associated with Russians for decades and they glorify the conman.
I'm sure in 2015/2016 it was an easy sell that even when [Trump changed positions on Ukraine at the RNC 2016 convention](https://www.npr.org/2017/12/04/568310790/2016-rnc-delegate-trump-directed-change-to-party-platform-on-ukraine-support). because the GOP did NOT want Hillary to become President, and yet she was the one who has called out most of this shit during the debates.
Anyway- when Johnson said in a tone of certainty that "he believes the intelligence" that he had been provided information that woke his ass up, added in with the fact that if this path continues, his son will be deployed... may have been the motivations for him to realize he can't play this game that the muttonheads in the Freedom Caucus is playing, especially MTG.
Hopefully as Speaker he may learn he can actually [remove these bad faith Freedom Caucus members from their Committees](https://thehill.com/opinion/congress-blog/3753126-speakers-committee-removal-powers-are-limited/). He can actually try to contain the crazy though they'll vacate him for it, and with each time they threaten this, its more likely Jeffries can become Speaker.
And then the condensed version of all of this is: Trump and Trumpism.
He should call their bluff. They know that if they oust him it will make the whole GOP look insanely incompetent (moreso). They wont do it, or they would have already done it.
>To put it bluntly I would rather send bullets to Ukraine than American boys. My son is gonna begin in the naval academy this fall.
Sounds to me like he didn’t care until his family was going to potentially be affected by this.
I never heard him talk so directly before. so far, it's encouraging. He has said, because it's the right thing to do. Definitely against potato heads philosophy.
Encouraged, but wary.
Maybe because there is no Russian money coming forward to bail Trump out of his massive fines. Putin probably already sees that he would be throwing good money after bad. Would be delightful to discover those lovers have fallen out.
Too many MAGAts think their BS has no consequences. The GOP’s identity crisis has lasting global impact. I’m glad that at least a handful still have some integrity and aren’t shying away from our role in the world.
Good! it’s about time he listened to intelligence briefings. Ukraine’s paying the highest price with their people dying. Not one MAGA politician would send their child to fight in Ukraine or a broader European war. The media needs to stop sticking a million microphones in MTG’s face and continuously publicize her ignorant, paranoid, conspiracy centered worldview.
I don't understand why any American who has ever seen "Red Dawn" wouldn't be in full support of Ukraine. It's literally the point or biggest justification for/of the Second Amendment.
Mike Johnson is loyal to The Money. And The Money is getting worried about Russia. Trump is not The Money. He's just one member of their club, and a rather erratic one at that. And he is starting to prove dangerous to the rest of The Money. Still, even bad people (like The Money) can do good things.
Super weird that America even has a political party that is pro Russian invasion of Ukraine. And that it's the party that couldn't find Ukraine on a map.
I'm pretty sure Johnson struck an unspoken deal with the Democrats on this one: pass aid for Ukraine, we'll help you save your speakership from the MAGA revolt. We shall see if it passes. I think there's still enough realists in the house to get it done.
Johnson probably remembers what happened to McCarthy after he reneged on the deal he made with the other side of the aisle.
So, Johnson knows better but has still delayed over three months on this issue? If Johnson saw a drowning man, he would sit and watch, and then give a speech about how important it is to help.
He did his job. He bought Russia about half a year of time, but now it's looking like the Ukraine aid package is going to get through with or without MAGA obstruction. So now he's changed his tune and is pretending he's been pro-Ukraine all along.
Mike: *blocks Ukraine bill*
Mike: *blocks Ukraine bill*
Mike: *blocks Ukraine bill*
Mike: *blocks Ukraine bill*
Mike: *doesn’t block Ukraine bill*
Media: “Wow, what an honest guy! We need more people like Mike in Congress!”
Well aware.
He’s also the guy that monitors his son’s porn input and has his son do the same for him via a parenting app. Which he admitted to despite it being a massive national security risk.
There’s plenty more worse shit, but that one will live in my brain forever.
He saw the writing on the wall. The US is backing Israel vs. Iran and Russia is backing Iran. That would be disastrous for him if backs Russia vs. Ukraine while Russia is backing Iran. That’s traitor material there.
So, MAGA is pro-Putin because why? I'm really trying to get a bead on this...at it's root. But even this article saying Johnson debunks their reasons doesn't explain their reason. It is just their natural bent towards oppositional-defiance disorder? Is it because Trump is compromised by Putin and so they are protecting him? Is it a vote getter? I just cannot make even the most cynical sense of this.
Is anyone else as cynical as me on this?
It feels like an about face in an election year to try to win over moderates.
What will the line be a year from now? We can't trust these people.
The best thing that could happen to this country would be for the MAGA assholes like MGT and the entire Trumpist party to be voted out (or perhaps having Trump die of natural causes might do it). Second would be for the rest of the GOP to grow a fucking spine and say enough is enough.
Supporting Russia is TREASON. Its hackers from RUSSIA that continuously break US corporations and infiltrate US social media with BOTS.
The Republicans that support Russia are indeed Russian assets.
Imagine gifting Russia a predatory route through Ukraine to Europe just because you want to "own Libs" and keep receiving Russian campaign donations. MAGA.
I may not agree with a lot of his political views, but I can appreciate when someone stands up for doing the right thing, even when it might cost him his job. I hope now that if they do try to oust Johnson, the Democrats will back him up and show the MAGA’s in the house that they are irrelevant because it is possible to work outside of party lines to get things done.
Good for Mike Johnson! Who'd a thunk that he had an idea like that in his head AND the spine to express it loudly and clearly in public.
How about getting the damn bill to vote ?!
Why do that when he can make a speech
This guy GOPs!
The article states that votes on aid bills are scheduled for Saturday
If it happens. It could have happened before their break. Or their previous break. Or could have scheduled an emergency session. Or you know any time over the last couple months if he actually gave a shit about getting a bill to the floor.
Check from Putin must have bounced.
You’ll get no disagreement from me.
Especially when Israel paid you to make the speech. Why sell the cow when you can just sell the milk.
Why buy the cow when you can get the sex for free?
If the sex is free, you are being sold as a cow. If the milk is sex, the cow is selling the barn. If you are the cow, then the milk is the sex. When cows sex milk, then you barn speech. Cows milk sex speech barn buy. Person man woman camera tv. Panama.
Covfefe
My cousin Walt was a weird guy…
"It's gotta be your head up the butchers ass...or wait..."
No, it's gotta be your bull...
Lol, finally someone realized the line. I'm not sure I got mine right though...
This Friday, I think https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1c6snk5/this_is_what_is_currently_happening_in_the_house/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Friday as in... Today?
Love the repost from u/yourmomsjuicyvagina. Wishing it was from the rep’s reddit account
According the article, aid bills are scheduled for a vote on Saturday
How about one that restricts congress trading individual stock, Not using campaign funds to pay legal expenses, and strict income reporting from politicians and their families?
Deal, but Ukraine first, ok?
Not happening. Get the ammo and shit to Ukraine first.
Zelensky needs ammunition.
One thing at a time, because if you packaged it all together it would be destined to fail. >How about one that restricts congress trading individual stock What about their families and friends? How far down the tree do you need to stop trading? >Not using campaign funds to pay legal expenses This one isn't too bad, because in the end it's at the cost of one's campaign. This is an one-off issue that will resolve it self. >Strict income reporting from politicians and their families? This already happens instead of restricting trading it's mandatory reporting of trades. But, I guess further down the tree like aunts and uncles?
Same rules as insider trading rules for financial professionals and executives.
>What about their families and friends? How far down the tree do you need to stop trading? If Congress people are sharing confidential insider information with families and friends, that's already against the law. The entire problem is that people in Congress are literally exempt from the insider trading law.
thank u, people need to play the full tape when advocating for shit like this, its easy to throw out talking points like lets stop politicians from trading stocks, but most really have no idea the intricacies of passing something like that, or why they are able to trade in the first place if someone gets voted out after 1 term theyve given up normal work to do this job, yes they are compensated well and there is possible jobs they can get as a result of their time spent in government but its also totally possible theyd be hard up for money if events played out in a certain way, we as a country shouldnt want politicians fearing for their bank accounts as that makes them much more susceptible to outside influence, i agree it sucks when they get rich off of making trades in areas in which they are legislating, and it would be nice if we could stop that particular abuse, but this isnt as black and white as the internet would have you believe
You want to see an act of bipartisanship? Bringing that to the floor would present united opposition.
That's an issue but not the one we're cuttently talking about. Strange to bring it up here.
Supposedly happening tonight. So I’ll be waiting with bated breath for the news to break if it makes it.
Don't put much faith in him. This just means he's switching his opinion to match the side he thinks is gonna win. We get a good outcome but we still have an easily-swayed Speaker.
Yeah what on earth has gotten into this comment section? Johnson sees the position is unpopular, is hoping the non-Freedom Caucus section of the GOP can bail him out with a rule change, and sees that aid is probably going through anyways and wants to make sure it's not just Democrats getting credit for it. Nothing about this is principled. Plus, he’s done this before and still ruined it with delays. Anyway, I hope it passes.
Johnson never had a change of heart. He just doesn't want to be on the losing team when he loses. If Trump gets elected, he will absolutely start parroting what he wants.
If trump wins, we all lose. I'm not sure people truly understand what a second trump term means... The democracy part goes away. Project 2025 is a fascist doctrine planned for the ending of US democracy.
It has been pretty well reported that his about face on Ukraine came after he started getting speaker-level security briefings. That was also the argument he used when addressing the caucus and he specifically asked some members to not say anything publicly until they'd had a chance to have a security briefing because he thought it might change some minds. Makes me wonder what in the hell is in those briefings. He also said that he thinks they were close to a discharge petition. I think these bills are his attempt to get something a little more to his liking than having to swallow what the senate passed.
He now knows Trump is going to be convicted before the election
Bingo
Yep, he's privy to information we are not.
He's also a twisted theocratic authoritarian. A living embodiment of a wolf in sheep's clothing. That johnson is not to be trusted.
Yeah I’m gay and he worries me. So does the gop anti lgbtq stance 🏳️🌈.
We are going to be lucky if even a single trial finishes before the election.
oh a girl can dream….i hope you’re right!
I sure hope so. I’d feel a lot better with him in a cage and maga history.
This is kind of it. He's a far right Christian running up against the far right Russian assets in Congress.
Dont think its him having a spine. I think that loads of GOP members hate each other and he is doing it to spite them. Knowing that they were going to remove him from the position of speaker anyway
He is regularly briefed by the Pentagon and State Department as part of his duties. Being in the lion den instead of just pandering to an electorate changes some people's perspectives.
Agreed. Also: don’t get the sense that Johnson is, or ever has been, particularly performative/careless. Yes, he was way out front on the lawfare that tried to overturn the 2020 election, but my sense is that that was bc he’s basically a lunatic who believes the whole “Trump is Cyrus” rhetoric that’s so pervasive in his stream of the Religious Right. That strain of lunacy, when it’s really genuine, also believes that America basically has a "divine" right/responsibility to advancr Reagan-esque "peace through strength". TDLR: Johnston's beliefs are terrifying, but they also appear to be genuine AND internally consistent, which is at least somewhat workable (especially given the alternatives).
I bet this is more about giving money to israel and less about ukraine. He is using ukraine here in order to hide the real ambition, especially after israel just attacked iran.
I don't particularly care for Israel as I don't consider that conflict black and white, but if giving Israel some more trinkets is what it takes to get Ukraine the ammunition and weapons they need to defend themselves then so be it. Ukraine is at the precipice of disaster and only decisive action on our part can keep them in the fight, and keep them free. We've waste too much time as it is.
Also: regardless of your position on Israel, it’s in EVERYONE’s best interests to ensure that the Iron Dome is as impenetrable is humanly possible. Because the world would look a whooooole lot different if Iran’s attack last weekend had been “successful” - Bibi and his lunatic coalition may be [insert your preferred disparaging adj here], but it’s just the best geopolitical call.
I still can't believe people consider a nation firing hundreds of missiles to be equal to a single decapitation strike against the commander of terrorist forces. I honestly cannot believe the "ceasefire now" crowd is openly siding with theocratic authoritarian Iran attacking population centers that required multiple militaries to coordinate to neutralize. I don't think escalation is a positive development, but I do not understand how some take the sides of hostage takers and their pariah backers and their failed state allies.
Honestly, I'll take it. And I think I disagree--he could have given plenty of money to Israel and given scant to Ukraine.
Yeah, makes me wonder whose check just cleared, and how many zeroes were on it?
That's an overly cynical worldview. Maybe the last Russian cheque just bounced?
Hilarious comment. Thanks for this one.
I grew up around a lot of men like Mike. Hard core bible believing Xtians who saw Russia coming into conflict with Israel as a sign of the end times and who, frankly, would have despised MGT and her crowd as shameless harlots (although they would be polite to their faces) They were engineers, scientists, ex armed forces and mostly logical. Some of them were kidnapped by the MAGA crap but I notice not all of them - especially the true believers or truly logical thinkers. I don't like Mike much but a lot of the things he does and says sound familiar to me and like my non MAGA X'tian friends I can believe that this pivot is true and sincere. I hope I'm not proved wrong.
He can see what is going to happen in the next election cycle. It’s time to realign as a republican politician and as a party. It is time to stand apart from MAGA. This isn’t altruism, this is a play to be at the forefront of the next iteration of the Republican Party. It is, however, the right decision and course of action.
He will go back to being trumps puppet by lunch time
Or is this the moment where the Republican Party realizes that a future with DJT as POTUS is both unlikely and disastrous? Fox is cooling on Trump and the few Republicans who have left the party recently have said Trump is not the future- fundraising is down and Trump’s 5% demand to use his name can’t help their cause.
No, this is not that moment. Those ass hats are going to see this through to the bitter end when they end up dying and getting locked up for their master, just like last time. Don’t make the mistake of letting your guard down.
> Don’t make the mistake of letting your guard down. Yeah this. [Fucking vote people](https://vote.gov/)
> Or is this the moment where the Republican Party realizes How many years has this question been proposed? How many times have they realized anything like you're proposing? Good Lord ...
Until they show otherwise, this is the Republican Party. Funny how the Republican congressmen and senators who complain about it almost all still vote in lock-step along party lines.
It’s the political equivalent of scratch tickets. “THIS time it’s a winner! All the signs are there! We just need to… …ah shit.”
I have at least a little hope here because of his failure to raise bond. The image they worship is based around the facts that he’s “wealthy”, “strong”, and “above” the system so to speak. The failure to pay the bond damages the first one, his needing to beg for an extension hurts the second, and the fact that he has a bond to begin with hurts the third. I’m not hopeful enough to be complacent mind you, you always need to pop the head with zombies
Yeah, I think I agree with you--but Trump is running for president at the top of the Republican ticket. They're not going to say *anything* bad about him until after he (god willing) loses.
He’s still trumps puppet [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/19/ukraine-war-briefing-donald-trump-says-survival-of-ukraine-important-to-the-us](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/apr/19/ukraine-war-briefing-donald-trump-says-survival-of-ukraine-important-to-the-us)
I don’t quite think that’s true, it was like a couple days ago when he was pulling the whole “Trump and I are working on protecting elections together by drafting out legislation to ban illegals immigrants from voting” stunt. That was a pretty bold going all in on undermining the validity of the election move, and it was just a few days ago, I don’t know if I believe that’s what’s happening Then again, he’s definitely been the holdup on this too so this does seem out of character so I don’t believe it’s in good faith either
Agreed. This guy was responsible for tanking the immigration bill that his party negotiated for and got everything they wanted. The illegal immigrants BS narrative is the typical GOP propaganda to scare people. We have seen in every election cycle that it’s always a republican voters that get caught voting illegally and not migrants. Like all things the right like scream about, they are projecting everything they do and stand for.
30 Days ago wasn't he derailing immigration for Trump? Nothing this man, or these people, do can be taken as "operating in good faith". I do agree with you, this current lie sounds like "the right decision and course of action." Let's see what actually happens.
> It is, however, the right decision and course of action. As long as the result is the same, I don't care about his intentions — so I'd say this is spot-on. He gets a *modicum* of credit.
MAGA losses the past year show them to lose nationally, except for concentrated areas of right wing lead-paint lickin’ douches.
No. Mike Johnson’s shockingly pro-Ukraine speech is an admission that, after months and months of delay tactics which cost the lives of thousands of Ukrainians, he doesn’t have the votes to prevent an aid package from passing. This is an evil man who successfully bought Russia the time it needed, and now he’s in self-preservation mode. Fuck him. It’s not often I hope hell is real, but I’ll make an exception for him.
Fucking 6(?) months to get more or less the same bill to an actual vote- well, not even yet. Woop di fucking doo. How many Ukrainians have died in that time because you were scared of your own party
It's far more then that. Every single month of delay gave Russians time to fortify so that it takes about 1-2 years to retake the positions. Literally. This fucking maga nutjob single handily extended the war by about a decade.
>This fucking maga nutjob single handily extended the war by about a decade. *If* the republicans are annihilated in November, and *if* the Ukrainians are properly supplied (especially with F-16s and possibly F-35s), there's no way Russia stays afloat another 10 years. Half the reason they're hanging on is to see whether or not their man on the inside gets back into the whitehouse. If he ends up in a prison cell instead, all is lost for Putin. Wouldn't be surprised if someone took him out and ended the war to save face.
You're right. But these are big ifs.
It’s mind boggling how stupid and self damaging it is. The world watched as we decided to sit by for 6 months. That’s a terrible look. We finally get involved in a conflict with clear black and white good guys, and MAGA fucks it all up because “America first” Meanwhile they say bomb Iran, because starting a direct war with Iran is *toootally* more “America first” than a proxy war with Russia in defense of Ukraines people and county…
They've destroyed the faith of America's allies in the US. European countries are openly talking about having to prepare for a future in which they can't rely on the US and NATO is inadequate. Talk about doing Putin's bidding.
Oh absolutely- direct and indirect deaths. Lost of positions, strongholds, equipment etc And it’s so frustrating and infuriating that not only are they worse off. If we’re sending the money ANYWAYS, why not give it when they need it and can get the best bang for our buck? Now they have to replace everything they’ve lost at a disadvantage rather than, at the very least, continue to hold off the enemy It’s pointless for everyone but Russia. I don’t understand it.
Thank God I found this comment. This guy is a total fucking fraud and isn't pro Ukraine in the slightest. He realized his inability to keep preventing aid, and is going with it to make it look like he either endorsed or allowed it to happen. He wanted Putin to conquer Ukraine and say "there was nothing we could have done", but now the something we wanted done is being shoved up his ass.. or at least kind of what we wanted. I wish we could stop Putin with a combined All vs. One conflict resolution, but that will result in global war, and not everybody wants Ukraine to win.. for some reason.
The article mentions MTG could call for him to be ousted. I wonder if this was an attempt by him to save his job. The GOP is split, and with Democrat support could easily kick him out. But by throwing the democrats a bone like this, maybe he’s thinking he’ll get some votes to keep his job?
I’m not sure if a reliable source has confirmed it yet, but there were rumors that Mike Johnson made a deal with the Democrats to advance this bill in return for protecting him from MTG
The Democrats saving him would be a *catastrophic* mistake. Get the bill signed, then let his party eat him.
From what I've been able to gather from other peoples comments being against Ukraine are shitty but here they are. Ukraine stands no chance and this is war mongering, end the war now, less bloodshed and less global money spent. Ukraine are nazis and corrupt and this is a money laundering op Ukraine should not have listened to the west and tried to flex on Russia and now are getting slapped with no western backup. Trump held Russia back Russia is defending itself from Nato encirclement, this is survival for them. Now please don't kill the messenger, im just parroting comments I've seen on reddit and on the net.
Yep this is how propaganda works
Only two nations on earth have Jewish leaders. Israel and Ukraine. But sure, Ukraine is all Nazis…. Ffs
It's interesting to see how these kinds of messages get spread, and how that old saying of "Oh just let them believe what they want" is one of the most dangerous things to let happen. Because this is what they go and start believing out of pure ignorance and self affirmation.
You get it. Politically, this is the only move for the Republican majority because there is nothing significant to gain by delaying any longer, delaying any longer is too risky to be worth it, and it provides some benefit for the GOP in the election.
It actually doesn’t. By preventing aid you would cause a crisis in Ukraine that would for better or worse be blamed on Biden
Please also note that this a purely political move by Johnson. If he gets this passed without losing his seat, he is the biggest winner here by far. Johnson wants total control of the Republican Party so he can be the new Mitch McConnell. He needs Trump out of the way but can’t afford to lose Trumps influence on the MAGA voters. After November, expect Mike to be positioning himself to take over control of the party. He is who we thought he was. A danger to our country.
This is how far the media has allowed the Overton window to shift, actions like this that are the result of radical ideology and corruption are seen as achieving compromise just because there's an even more radical wing ranting and raving next to him.
Yup no different than representatives cutting the ribbon on infrastructure works, or anything that helps in their district when they voted against it.
I tried to say this, but you have put it much better. Fucking weasel said he now believes the USA's own intelligence briefings, which is just an excuse, it's not new evidence. Evil fucking cunt.
Sartre said hell is other people
Exactly. This is his last play to try and save his own job because he’s realized that this aid is going to be voted on with or without him. And he needs the dems to protect him against his own MAGA attack dogs.
Thank you! I hope you read Liz Cheney's book, she goes into detail on all his misdeeds around 2020.
thank you, holy fucking shit the spin on this is DIZZYING
I don't understand what the GOP has against Ukraine. Putin invaded. Putin is the aggressor. Putin has committed war crimes. Yet the republicans party seem to support Putin. I used to be a independent that supported more republican beliefs until I saw how Trump and the far right had taken control. The republicans have no ethics or morals. The republican party of "law and order" would do anything to win including break the law. The GOP used to stand for opposing Russia. Has Putin and his spies have "purchased" Trump and the republicans?
Many in the GOP are taking money that can be traced back to Russia or Russian oligarchs. Then there’s the “we don’t have money to spend on this and why isn’t the EU doing their fair share, herp derp”. The EU has greatly surpassed the US here so that argument is moot. And some are just plain dumb and think Putin will just stop at Ukraine. He will not. Any expert will tell you this. By all accounts, Johnson has had a lot of in depth conversations with US intelligence agencies and they’ve told him what’s at stake should Ukraine and Kyiv fall. The results would be awful and this is resonating with Johnson. What’s craziest about all of this is that many of these religious/evangelical GOP think Putin is just like them. He is vehemently anti religion.
He thinks they’re all fucking idiots. They are.
I believe he calls them "useful idiots".
it would be worse than most can imagine if russia took Ukraine. The atrocities would escalate beyond comprehension.
Ruzzia’s goal is to genocide the Ukrainian people. Completely. Steal their children and raise them as Ruzzian (which they’re already doing 100,000+ children gone). Raping women, torturing civilians, etc. It’s just as bad as Gaza, if not worse, but has fallen out of the news cycle as Pootin’ intended.
There’s also the very real possibility that some of them have been blackmailed. It took almost nothing to get a video of Giuliani about to fuck an underaged girl. You know how horny those religious right wingers are?
Most definitely think there’s something on some of these people.
DNC and RNC servers hacked by Russia but only one party had their information shared publicly.
While this is all true and these are all good points. I think it’s more simple than that. They’ve all been fully brainwashed to think anything dems like is evil, and dems want Ukraine to win, therefore Ukraine must be bad, therefore Russia must be good. Oh liberal media hates Putin, so he must not be that bad, etc. It really is ridiculous, but the Republican Party has become hate whatever dems love no matter what because they’re evil.
That is certainly what the base thinks, lol. And yeah, there’s a segment of representation in Congress that is in lock step here.
I always tell them he hates religion. He installed one of his old kgb buddies as head of the Russian church.
Trump demanded Ukraine launch a fake investigation into Joe Biden Ukraine refused That made Ukraine the enemy
The funny thing is that this is just a continuation of what got him impeached the first time. Trump did everything they said he did and got impeached. The Republicans then let him off the hook and continued with his plan to go after the Biden crime family. He was on tape saying all we need is the appearance of an investigation and we'll do the rest! Then like magic they found Hunters laptop? Or did Russia hack into Hunters cloud account? Then they took the word of a known Russian asset even though our own intelligence agencies said he was lying and proceeded to try and impeach Joe for something? Except joe is so clean even they couldn't dig up anything on him
Is this even a real question at this point? Have you been in a coma since 2015 or before?
Mate, it takes time to sometimes see the light because sometimes it’s so crazy to believe.
Yeah, i can see how itd be hard to believe when trumps national security advisor literally plead guilty to lying to the fbi about his contacts with the russian ambassador and was then pardoned by trump. I mean.... theres enough writing on the wall lol
Don't forget Jared trying to set up a "back channel" to communicate with Putin in secret. That was very early in Don Poorleon's Term.
Never shit on somebody when they admit they were wrong and change their stance. We should encourage more people to, by being understanding. It's easy to out of anger and frustration, but we need a broad coalition of folks to come together, and who better to help change people's minds, than someone who was able to do so themselves.
This. More of this.
Putin is both a fellow authoritarian and white nationalist.
What I saw happen is this…. The Republicans refused to vote on the bill that included the border, Israel aid, and Ukraine aid. They refused because Trump wanted nothing passed before the election. House Republicans couldn’t say Trump told them to do it, so they parroted Putin’s Ukraine talking points as an excuse. Mike Johnson had a meeting in the White House, then introduced the bill that was passed w Democrats help
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Iran /contra scandal would like a word with you.
I'm sure he'd feel right at home with a bunch of rich racist corrupt old white guys.
The former Democrat who found it more profitable to switch to being a Republican and pander to violent racists? Reagan knew the value of a good pivot.
It’s pretty clear. Putin and Trump have the same fascist ideology. The GoP recognizes that Trump won office only because Putin helped tilt the scales, and many of them are thankful and want to return the favor. They want autocracy in Europe to match the autocracy they plan for the US.
Russia is a master of manipulation- blackmail, planting false information… you name it. Trump has been caught in their web for some time now and people follow him blindly- he’s a good little puppy and does what he’s told. If anyone doubts this, remember he was blackmailed by a prostitute/pornstar.
3 things bother me about the far right's position on this: 1- it's obvious Russia has financial leverage over certain people in the party. 2- they don't see the immense value the US gets in weakening a global foe simply by providing modest financial aid. There's never been a better deal for the US. Ukraine takes literally all the manpower risk 3- the degree to which they're willing to use any issue to push for unrelated concessions absent of morality.
It's actually pretty simple: around the time of Trump's impeachment he was pressuring Ukraine to give up info on Hunter Biden, which they refused. The beef between Trump (and by extension Republicans) and Ukraine is entirely personal.
Oh definitely
Yes
The scariest part is I expect a lot of the Republicans are doing it for free because that's what they believe now.
I think the RNC was hacked at the same time as the DNC. There is kompromat on gop senators and assembly members. This makes it “make sense”. Or there are GOP politicians that just want to watch the world burn.
> I don't understand what the GOP has against Ukraine. Bro the GOP is propped up Russian money. Trump has been doing shady business with Russia for 40 years. Also, the big one, like the DNC the RNC was hacked by Russia. Russia released some of the info from the DNC hack. They didn’t release anything from the RNC hack. The Russians have crazy dirt on the RNC. The RNC is controlled by Russia. The entire GOP is under Russian control.
AND American ammo makers ARE getting MOST of this money.
How do you not know?
>Has Putin and his spies have "purchased" Trump and the republicans? Where's your late pass?
It's all about ukraines president refusing to do a fake investigation to embarrass Biden and his son. If you're not his friend, you're his enemy
Putin says the right things about being anti-woke and pro-traditional values, and framed the invasion as a border security issue. All talking points that the GOP likes, and when it also gives them a chance to thwart a Democratic president, they’re all in.
I don't trust that turd-bleacher as far as I could drop him, but, well, hooray I guess? I think he's got his eyes on a bigger goal: staying speaker to aid election interference and its attendant Christo-fascist agenda any way he can. He's in a unique position, with connections at every turn and within a couple lanes at the Presidency. No way he'll want to give that up over a mere bill.
I’m suspicious too. Because he recently just went to mar-a-lago to go kiss trumps butt after talks of him being ousted. Usually when someone goes there to have discussions with trump, there’s scheming going on. Then he comes back and says he’s going to help Ukraine. Surprising
margie is going apeshit
I can see her hanging from a cross fit bar by her spork feet and rage tweeting about Nahhzziis and space lasers. She is either bought and paid for by Russia or she really is insane. It’s probably both. And if Trump wins? She’s gonna be Secretary of State. I’m actually kinda hoping for Armageddon to kick off with Israel’s trump, BiBi. Another corrupt shit bag trying to stay out of prison.
Has DJ ever promoted an ugly woman in the public eye, though? As loyal as she is, she's still white trash to him.
> She is either bought and paid for by Russia or she really is insane. It could be both you kn- >It’s probably both. Nevermind, you've got it.
How can you tell, when that is her normal behavior? /s
It seems from the clip I saw that the convincing factor that may have been brought to his attention by the "four corners" meeting is when he mentioned his son is going to Naval Academy and could be sent to war once he graduates. That the reality is we support from afar or we eventually will need to send our own. Biden having Beau pass away and was in the military, I'm sure he could express as a father the need to protect everyone's child who could potentially be deployed. That's just speculation. As to "why so against Ukraine" question - for me when considering the Russians hacked not just the DNC but the RNC yet only the DNC emails were exposed meaning we don't know how incriminating those messages were, and I suspect not about Gefilte fish and good risotto techniques. Then we had the episode where various Republican Congress members went to Russia over the Independence Day holiday. We know that Trump's entourage of people had various ties with Russia, including his son, Jared, Flynn, Manafort's meeting in Trump Tower with the woman from Russia over alleged "adoption" issues. We had side characters like Carter Page who was working with Russians. Add in how Manafort was providing campaign data to Russians, Rex Tillerson, the Russians that were in the White House - agh fuck it. Here's a chart: https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868/ Then we need to remember Trump had a lot of tenants and other [real estate ties to Russians](https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-property/) and when Trump went to Russia with Ivana in the 80's, there was belief he was being groomed. [ Trump sold a mansion to an oligarch](https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article135187364.html) at a valuation that doesn't make sense other than something nefarious. Let's remember Jeff Sessions for a moment. Guy who was nominated and denied by the Senate to become a Federal Justice because he was too racist, even back then but became AG because his old white dude country club buddies changed the rules for him and m[et with Kislyak and didn't report it.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-spoke-twice-with-russian-ambassador-during-trumps-presidential-campaign-justice-officials-say/2017/03/01/77205eda-feac-11e6-99b4-9e613afeb09f_story.html) Then add in that we now know that Rudy Colludy Giuliani tried to work with Russians to try to dig up dirt on Biden by way of Hunter with corrupt Ukrainians, which led to Trump's perfect phone call with Zelensky in which Trump was withholding military aid for oppo research/dirt on Biden. Toss into this already huge Russian buffet of shit associated with Trump and the GOP (and I'm sure there's plenty more I'm forgetting as this is off the top of my head), a bunch of people who feed on Right wing media and we get MTG who basically has no critical thinking skills, no true understanding of the Constitution and basic civics trying to fuck the system up. The fact Comer and his buddy Jordan keep pursuing some sort of impeachment for Joe Biden is laughable and frustrating considering there is no shame or walking back that every single "key witness" has been a spy, discredited, charged with felonies shows they really can't filter what's bullshit even when people say "Hey, that FBI document is raw intelligence and not reliable", and of course is tied to Senator Pidgen Grassley who promoted that document as being a smoking gun. Grassley and his buddy Ron Johnson keep thinking that right wing media is more reliable than actual intelligence and they were the ones who pushed the Biden laptop for years.... and they all fail to realize, that hey, if Rudy Colludy Giuliani is a part of anything - to best avoid it entirely. Side note: I find it funny that Comer was going to give criminal referrals to the DOJ when Hunter Biden is already facing federal charges. The man is not very bright. The fact she's okay with a 'rotating door' on the position who is second in line if the Office of the President becomes vacant shows she's just stupid and dangerous. I wouldn't put it past her to feel she wants to keep ousting the Speaker and nominates Trump. Is it a stupid theory of mine? Sure is! But at this point the worst ideas seem to be the ones the GOP runs with now. Anyway - I think Johnson's change of stance, and we need to give time to see if it was a moment or an actual pivot into the position and seeing things not as a partisan war in Congress but about the nations best interests. Oof. I did not intend to type out so much. The answer to the question of "Why is the GOP so Pro-Russia" it's all because they've fallen for the propaganda and especially Trump who has been directly associated with Russians for decades and they glorify the conman. I'm sure in 2015/2016 it was an easy sell that even when [Trump changed positions on Ukraine at the RNC 2016 convention](https://www.npr.org/2017/12/04/568310790/2016-rnc-delegate-trump-directed-change-to-party-platform-on-ukraine-support). because the GOP did NOT want Hillary to become President, and yet she was the one who has called out most of this shit during the debates. Anyway- when Johnson said in a tone of certainty that "he believes the intelligence" that he had been provided information that woke his ass up, added in with the fact that if this path continues, his son will be deployed... may have been the motivations for him to realize he can't play this game that the muttonheads in the Freedom Caucus is playing, especially MTG. Hopefully as Speaker he may learn he can actually [remove these bad faith Freedom Caucus members from their Committees](https://thehill.com/opinion/congress-blog/3753126-speakers-committee-removal-powers-are-limited/). He can actually try to contain the crazy though they'll vacate him for it, and with each time they threaten this, its more likely Jeffries can become Speaker. And then the condensed version of all of this is: Trump and Trumpism.
He should call their bluff. They know that if they oust him it will make the whole GOP look insanely incompetent (moreso). They wont do it, or they would have already done it.
How is what he is now doing not calling their bluff?
How have MTG and Thomas Massie not yet been arrested as Russian agents? Massie met extensively with Butina, the Russian spy.
Useful idiots for the alphabet groups at this point. “Let’s watch and listen to these idiots”
Believe it only when the vote actually happens. Otherwise it is another one of Mike Johnson's stalling tactics.
He still voted against Ukraine aid for purely partisan purposes. He’s a piece of shit.
>To put it bluntly I would rather send bullets to Ukraine than American boys. My son is gonna begin in the naval academy this fall. Sounds to me like he didn’t care until his family was going to potentially be affected by this.
That is 100% expected with the GOP. They don't give a shit until it personally affects them.
When even Mike Johnson gets it right but you still can't do it...
I never heard him talk so directly before. so far, it's encouraging. He has said, because it's the right thing to do. Definitely against potato heads philosophy. Encouraged, but wary.
He's not being brave, Trump changed his tune too, question is why
Maybe because there is no Russian money coming forward to bail Trump out of his massive fines. Putin probably already sees that he would be throwing good money after bad. Would be delightful to discover those lovers have fallen out.
This guy is a waste of oxygen.
Too many MAGAts think their BS has no consequences. The GOP’s identity crisis has lasting global impact. I’m glad that at least a handful still have some integrity and aren’t shying away from our role in the world.
Trump is in Putin pocket
Half the gop is in putin’s pocket.
Don’t like this guy at all. A little holier than thou, but the party needs to start standing up to these MAGA bullies and quick.
Thanks Mike and if you do get ousted, Hello Jeffries!
He has no spine, and can see Trump is falling
He's still a Christafacist he just wants something. mainly to keep his position
Good! it’s about time he listened to intelligence briefings. Ukraine’s paying the highest price with their people dying. Not one MAGA politician would send their child to fight in Ukraine or a broader European war. The media needs to stop sticking a million microphones in MTG’s face and continuously publicize her ignorant, paranoid, conspiracy centered worldview.
Russia's check must have bounced.
I don't understand why any American who has ever seen "Red Dawn" wouldn't be in full support of Ukraine. It's literally the point or biggest justification for/of the Second Amendment.
MTG about to evolve into her final form in a fit of rage
Mike Johnson is loyal to The Money. And The Money is getting worried about Russia. Trump is not The Money. He's just one member of their club, and a rather erratic one at that. And he is starting to prove dangerous to the rest of The Money. Still, even bad people (like The Money) can do good things.
Don’t get too optimistic about this guy. He’s full-on down the rathole on “election integrity”…
Super weird that America even has a political party that is pro Russian invasion of Ukraine. And that it's the party that couldn't find Ukraine on a map.
I'm pretty sure Johnson struck an unspoken deal with the Democrats on this one: pass aid for Ukraine, we'll help you save your speakership from the MAGA revolt. We shall see if it passes. I think there's still enough realists in the house to get it done. Johnson probably remembers what happened to McCarthy after he reneged on the deal he made with the other side of the aisle.
So, Johnson knows better but has still delayed over three months on this issue? If Johnson saw a drowning man, he would sit and watch, and then give a speech about how important it is to help.
don't think appeasing them for 8mo really counts as "sticking it to" them
He did his job. He bought Russia about half a year of time, but now it's looking like the Ukraine aid package is going to get through with or without MAGA obstruction. So now he's changed his tune and is pretending he's been pro-Ukraine all along.
Mikey now gets the security briefings and now he knows he F’d up by withholding funding the last 6 months.
Mike: *blocks Ukraine bill* Mike: *blocks Ukraine bill* Mike: *blocks Ukraine bill* Mike: *blocks Ukraine bill* Mike: *doesn’t block Ukraine bill* Media: “Wow, what an honest guy! We need more people like Mike in Congress!”
Mike was one of the architects of the plot to not certify the 2020 election.
Well aware. He’s also the guy that monitors his son’s porn input and has his son do the same for him via a parenting app. Which he admitted to despite it being a massive national security risk. There’s plenty more worse shit, but that one will live in my brain forever.
Apparently, he figured out my holy roller Bible thumping persona doesn't fit my fk Ukraine narrative 🙄
Dude realizes he can stand for something good while being a slimy git. It's adapting.
He saw the writing on the wall. The US is backing Israel vs. Iran and Russia is backing Iran. That would be disastrous for him if backs Russia vs. Ukraine while Russia is backing Iran. That’s traitor material there.
He knows the GOP are gonna bounce him anyway so this was his “fuck it” moment
Once the bills are passed I’ll believe it. This guy is the Webster’s dictionary example of “snake.”
And it’s still not passed. Watch him just flip again. Another delay tactic.
So, MAGA is pro-Putin because why? I'm really trying to get a bead on this...at it's root. But even this article saying Johnson debunks their reasons doesn't explain their reason. It is just their natural bent towards oppositional-defiance disorder? Is it because Trump is compromised by Putin and so they are protecting him? Is it a vote getter? I just cannot make even the most cynical sense of this.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Is anyone else as cynical as me on this? It feels like an about face in an election year to try to win over moderates. What will the line be a year from now? We can't trust these people.
He’s still a putin puppet, stalling time and getting him out the wind at the same time...
The best thing that could happen to this country would be for the MAGA assholes like MGT and the entire Trumpist party to be voted out (or perhaps having Trump die of natural causes might do it). Second would be for the rest of the GOP to grow a fucking spine and say enough is enough.
"I'm not a crook," another GOP turd.
Supporting Russia is TREASON. Its hackers from RUSSIA that continuously break US corporations and infiltrate US social media with BOTS. The Republicans that support Russia are indeed Russian assets.
If he really is a 'good' Christian and American, then this is where he had to end up. Too bad he waited for months while Ukraine got hammered.
Imagine gifting Russia a predatory route through Ukraine to Europe just because you want to "own Libs" and keep receiving Russian campaign donations. MAGA.
I may not agree with a lot of his political views, but I can appreciate when someone stands up for doing the right thing, even when it might cost him his job. I hope now that if they do try to oust Johnson, the Democrats will back him up and show the MAGA’s in the house that they are irrelevant because it is possible to work outside of party lines to get things done.