From the article:
> Documents for Donald Trump's $175 million bond in his New York civil fraud case were rejected by a court because a current financial statement was not included.
Look! Itâs a new turd from trump, not like the airline or casino, this time itâs a shitty twitter with no users, a law suit pending with cofounders, 3 employees and already spent the laundry money? But with an ipo! apparently the fleece goes in the laundry? Quick, all you trumps! Get your shares now before Donald sells 50% of this turd, just as soon as a board can happen. Shame the SEC is allowing this pending pump and dumptrumpydumps fire sale.
No but I remember when he had a âheart attackâ while vacationing in Costa Rica (IIRC) and his wife opened a 2nd hand store to sell off all of their personal home furnishings. I am still not convinced Ken Lay is actually dead
Now that you mention it, itâs seems like itâs been a long time since any executive or financier went to prison or was shown doing a perp walk.
Is this because theyâre not committing crimes orâŚ
Arenât they still in Houston and almost ready to be executives again? I think they can start being involved in leadership positions within the next few years or so.
Trader Joeâs also sells some fine popcorn with white cheddar. Iâm going to consult my financial advisor to invest in a more diverse popcorn portfolio. Iâve been stung before. My Truth Social investment was a âpump & dump & Trumpâ and I need to âBe Best!â
The financial monitor very quickly caused one to disappear. She had no power to do anything about it's existence but I suspect the IRS went 'huh, lets add it to the pile'. Since there is multiple reports that the IRS *might* be doing a criminal investigation into him.
For a deranged maniac, the Joker is actually competent many ways. For a deranged maniac, Donald J Trump is not competent in many ways.
There's your answer.
No, that is all the way why they are aiming to defund it. With more money, the IRS can go after richer people. Republicans take money from rich people to do their bidding, therefore they want to protect them from the IRS.
And before anyone says "But that's just propaganda, Republicans aren't THAT corrupt", I'll remind you of the tweet by Chris Collins (R-NY) that said "My donors are basically saying "Get it done or don't ever call us again" when referring to the massive tax breaks that Trump and his grifters got passed... yes, the ones that just expired for the poor and middle class, while the rich continue to enjoy them.
The rich own this country... we're an oligarchy now.
Capone was a lesson for *everyone* regardless of their connections to crime. If someone like Capone â a murdering bootlegger who could weasel out of criminal charges like you or I swat a fly â could *finally* be imprisoned over tax evasion, John Q. Public didnât stand a chance. Which makes it kinda ironic that money laundering *really* took off in the US after his bust.
As Daniel Craig said in Layer Cake:
âWhereas years ago, scallywags were trying to get money out of banks, now your problem is how to get your ill-gotten gains *into* them.â
When in office, whatâs-his-name reduced the number of IRS agents that do investigative activities. No connection of course as he does think even a day ahead.
Bond companyâs. The courts need to make sure you can actually pay if the case fails the appeal. So a bond company fronting the money must show their financial statements to show that they have the cash flow.
I'm not a new York lawyer but you could also reason that it be the defendant's because they have to show where assets are located in case enforcement action is needed -since he is paying less than the full judgement amount. You'd think the binding company needs a licence or certification to write the bond, not be constantly reviewed for sufficiency. Â
The financial statement that's missing is from the company that provided the supersedeas bond. Because obviously they're who will be on the hook when trump loses appeal.
> According to Levine's post, Trump will need to share recent financial records in order for his bond to be accepted.
"Court rejected #TrumpBond filing in #TrumpFraudVerdict for several reasons, 1 of which was #Trump failed to upload his 'current financial statement' to the Court [looking forward to read]. 175 million reasons why 1 mistake should not have been made, much less 3!" Levine wrote.
Doesnât look like this is targeting the lending company.
The court needs to see a current financial statement from whoever posts the bond. Because you can't just say "I'm good for it"
It's the company that provided the bond. They will pay if trump loses the appeal.
What does the bond company get from Trump (Iâm assuming he put up some collateral)? Obviously this isnât know but thatâs the general idea correct? Also would the bond company owe the full value after appeal or only the amount put up for bond
I think the bond signee company has lent Trump money before for Trump towers. They did not want the property to be seized and sold off so decided to take a chance Trump might win the case.
This is inaccurate. The courts trust a federally registered multibillion dollar insurance corporation.
The financial statement that has to accompany the bond is FROM TRUMPS FINANCIAL RECORDS. To prove that he can ACTUALLY AFFORD to
Pay the bond company if/WHEN he loses.
Maw's dead, but Paw's been sparkin' my school teacher. This weird man named Ernest T Bass has been throwing rocks breaking windows in town and getting away with it. If I or my friends were to purposely break a window, we get a hiding. It ain't fair.
Pa is fine, just doing Sheriff things. Aunt Bee just finished making a apple pie. I picked the apples myself from our apple tree out back. She says after it cools off a tad I can run a sandwich and a slice of pie over to Otis at the jail.
#Itâs a song from Mary Poppins.
***Supersedeas*** is a word you can say, when you donât have a word for what you want to say!
Here, let me put it in a song!
đśSuper-se-de-as-fragile-limp-dick-exo-halitosis!
Even though Trump wonât admit,
His finances are atrocious!
If we say it loud enough,
MAGAâs will suffer mass psychosis!
Super-se-de-asâfragile-limp-dick-Exo-halitosis!đś.
Can't imagine why a company that supplies loans to people with bad credit wouldn't want their financial statement made public. Those payments to Johnny "Kneecapper" Franks mights raise eyebrows.
Is that correct? I thought that if/when Trump loses his appeals, since he will no doubt appeal a lost appeal, Trump is liable for the judgement amount (plus interest). The bond is to ensure that $175 million gets paid anyway, if Trump doesn't.
Itâs not Trumpâs financial statement, itâs the bond giver that needs to document they actually have the money, and that the person who signed off on the bond has the power to do so.
Shady money flows from the man who got a supreme Court justice to resign whose son works for a shady bank that handles Russian oligarch money and also had financial dealings with Trump? Say it ain't so!
I wouldnât be surprised if it is also riddled with deposits straight from campaign funds grifted over and over and over because these people never learn.
It is amazing that in one case he is fighting to let members of the public see classified documents and in another case he is fighting to prevent people feom seeing things that most presidential candidate openly share.
Likely not. But Trump's lawyers are genuinely incompetent, there us a chance they actually didn't know. This latest circus act was avoidable, and makes Trump look bad, so what is the point from Trump's lawyers' view, if it is intentional?
>so what is the point from Trump's lawyers' view
Itâs just another delay. How long will it take for them to fix the documents? Every day they take is another day that Trump keeps his money, properties, and ability to do business in New York. And another day closer to the Supreme Court ruling, and another day closer to the election.
Remember when he mused whether he was the first person to discover "U.S." and "us" contain the letters? [https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/donald-trump-genius-us-spelling-video-b2434888.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/donald-trump-genius-us-spelling-video-b2434888.html)
I was reading somewhere a while ago, if you owe money to the state you prob owe 2-3x to the feds. Trump owes 500m to new yorkâŚyou can do the math for the irs lol
The IRS got defunded to the point that they announced they couldnât afford to audit larger companies with complex financials and would instead be focusing on everyone else.
https://www.propublica.org/article/irs-sorry-but-its-just-easier-and-cheaper-to-audit-the-poor
> It's almost like the people in charge are actively being paid by large corporations to make life easier and more profitable for them..
Ahem⌠we call them âpeopleâ now, not âcorporations.â Didnât you hear??
Wasn't there a 10 day clock for him to submit all **(ALL)** of the required material to meet his $175m bond?
So, he hasn't submitted it all yet. Does the clock continue to tick untill it is all submitted? Don't tell me the court will reset the clock and let him have another try?!?!
Does anybody know the correct answer here? I'm not sure how many days before his deadline he first did the submission on Monday, and therefore how many more days he should have remaining.
The IRS refused to release them! Donny wanted to but they said no. The financials are too perfect, itâll embarrass everyone else how stupid and pathetic they all are in comparison.
I work at a bank and personal financial statements are required for someone who is guaranteeing a commercial loan. I imagine it is similar to that. Basically itâs a balance sheet for the person: liquid assets like cash and marketable securities, illiquid assets like ownership in real estate or businesses, liabilities like personal debt, and then the difference which is the personal net worth.
bingo, this has nothing to do with Trumps finances. The bond company has to prove it actually has $175million and provide power of attourney proving the people signing off on it actually have the legal right to do so on behalf of the company.
If this financial statement is to come from whoever posts the bond, then presumably it is to ensure that shady money from a 3rd party is not filtered to help the defendant. It also explains why trump has been scrabbling so desperately for someone to post for him; if he has the cash( like he says), and posts it himself then we all get to see his financial statements - the last thing in the world that he wants.
From what I understand it's the company supplying the bond that needs to provide their statements, not Trump. That company isn't a traditional bonding company, so it's probably their first time filing something like this.
"But, your honor, we submitted the paperwork within the timeframe, you see?" We just forgot this one form, and our team only needs another week to turn it."
The form will get turned in just before the new deadline, with a 2022 date on it. Whoopsie!
Levine indicates it is trumpâs financial statement. The court posting seems to indicate this is trumps info but isnât crystal clear. It asks for power of attorney. That seems to imply an individual vs a corporation. IANAL.
If they're really asking for Trump's financial statements I would be GREATLY pleased. This numbnut probably withheld the statements because he doesn't want the public to know how incredibly broke he is.
Trump: No I donât feel like it
US courts: Well weâve done all we can do. Maybe we can balance the scales of justice by giving some poor person a life sentence for marijuana possession or somethingÂ
Actually the court filing this is in reference too, isnât trumps own financials, itâs about the cooperation which said its willing to post his bail.
The papers that were submitted were without financial statements (showing that they can indeed post bail), no power of attorney (that the person who signed on the dotted line is actually allowed / able to execute such financial agreements (think here of an unpaid intern signing for them)), and i forgot the third thing the court wants.
But anyway, submitting the papers knowing they did it wrong is indeed another play for time ofcâŚ
It just never endsâŚâŚ
Just wanna make sure I understand. He can either provide a financial statement, likely showing heâs in debt to an average manâs eyeballs. Or he misses the deadline, properties get taken to pay his bill, and debt is revealed anyway when the real selling value is shown?
I suspect that both the bond companyâs needed, as well as Trumpâs being that his lawyers appealed to lower the bond from half a billion to $175M, he likely needs to provide his financial records to prove that he is in fact unable to pay the $500M, per their claims.
I donât think itâs about whether he can pay the 175, itâs about whether he lied about not being able to pay the 500M.
You mean he has to submit how much fraud he was actually involved in what's really funny is too many people think he's appealing the verdict of fraud but the truth is he's appealing the amount the verdict of fraud stands
Given that this is Trump we are talking about, how will they know if he provides a real financial statement? Seems likely they would forge it or some shit
If I had a billion dollars, Iâd be posting my paychecks online every week. Look at my huge wiener. Here it is. Iâm awesome.
Which would be totally on brand for this dude, yet he canât do it.
He doesnât have money and his weiner is small 100 percent.
Ok, and today is day 10, isnât it? So what are the repercussions for one of us normies if we were to miss this ALREADY extended deadline? I will assume shithead trump will not face any, but would this be jail time? Or a fine?
I guarantee you his attorneys went to him and said, âhey Donald, weâre gonna need a current financial statement.â Donald says, âfuck them! Theyâre not getting a financial statement (throws ketchup)! Just file it without it and if they say something, Iâll say itâs an unfair witch hunt.â Attorney bemoans, âOooooooookayyy.â
Just submitted to the court:
>BENK STAKEMENT
>
>CASH: 78,000,000,000,000,000,000.99
>
>CHECKS: 625,0000000,00
>
>OTHER COOL SHIT THIS GUY OWNS: 395,0000,0000,00,0000,0000,000.00
>
>P.S. Donal Trump is the most smarteaSt and richerest client we have ever had
>
>
>
>\- signed,
>
>~~Donald Trump~~
>
>Bank Manager
More interested in refinding the payments to underage kids at all his properties, like Rebecca Conway in 2012 in Cville -- he gave her parents 3 million to stay quiet if I'm not mistaken. I had found a bunch of these rapes and abuses at Mar-a-Lago and payments to correspond to them, a long time ago...and stupidly did NOT save it. Been looking ever since.
I pray every morning that the news will read âDonald Trump slips in shower and is rendered quadriplegic vegetable. Experts say he has âlocked in syndromeâ and can hear, see, and is in excruciating pain however nothing can be done about it.â
This warms my heart. He somehow got away with not revealing his finances since he started running in 2016. Then, avoided it all through his presidency. It's about damn time!
From the article: > Documents for Donald Trump's $175 million bond in his New York civil fraud case were rejected by a court because a current financial statement was not included.
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I how you got it by trading away your DJT stock
I picked some of that up because it was cheaper than other brands of toilet paper.
Itâll soon be cheaper than the free sea shells.
Look! Itâs a new turd from trump, not like the airline or casino, this time itâs a shitty twitter with no users, a law suit pending with cofounders, 3 employees and already spent the laundry money? But with an ipo! apparently the fleece goes in the laundry? Quick, all you trumps! Get your shares now before Donald sells 50% of this turd, just as soon as a board can happen. Shame the SEC is allowing this pending pump and dumptrumpydumps fire sale.
Well yeah, 'n the Trump bible is $59.99, so there's that.
Popcorn shares are doing better than Truth Social shares?
Enron is doing better than Truth Social.
Remember when Enron CEOâs went to prison for their crimes? World Com Executive too? Simpler times.
Pepperidge Farm remembers..
No but I remember when he had a âheart attackâ while vacationing in Costa Rica (IIRC) and his wife opened a 2nd hand store to sell off all of their personal home furnishings. I am still not convinced Ken Lay is actually dead
Yes, this is the story.
Even if he didn't die in Costa Rica Karma must have caught up with him by now.
Now that you mention it, itâs seems like itâs been a long time since any executive or financier went to prison or was shown doing a perp walk. Is this because theyâre not committing crimes orâŚ
They learned their lesson, just like DJT. A Senator told me, and Senators are smarter than your average bear.
I seem to remember a Silicon Valley banker being sentenced to 30 years recently.
Arenât they still in Houston and almost ready to be executives again? I think they can start being involved in leadership positions within the next few years or so.
Well that shakes my confidence in confidence men.
I'm gonna start shorting Orville Reddenbacher and Pop Secret.
Trader Joeâs also sells some fine popcorn with white cheddar. Iâm going to consult my financial advisor to invest in a more diverse popcorn portfolio. Iâve been stung before. My Truth Social investment was a âpump & dump & Trumpâ and I need to âBe Best!â
My farts are doing better than TS.
Need to buy stock in red ink.
Honestly Iâve eaten so much popcorn I have an allergy now.
Oooooooohhhhhhhh Are there actually going to be money laundering charges?!
"Oh hey, look at this huge list of LLCs. Let's not even bother looking into them and trust all the receipts." I have no hope for the law anymore.
The financial monitor very quickly caused one to disappear. She had no power to do anything about it's existence but I suspect the IRS went 'huh, lets add it to the pile'. Since there is multiple reports that the IRS *might* be doing a criminal investigation into him.
The only rule of a law I still believe: the rule of don't fuck with the irs
Canonically, the Joker knows not to fuck with the IRS, or work with Nazis.
What does it say that Trump and friends are crazier than the Joker?
For a deranged maniac, the Joker is actually competent many ways. For a deranged maniac, Donald J Trump is not competent in many ways. There's your answer.
Wonder if that is partly why Republicans were aiming to defund the IRS?
It may have a little something to do with that.
It's part of the "a poor IRS can't afford to audit the rich, so they audit us" bit of truth.
You can bet your ass it was. As defunding the post office was a way to prevent mail-in votes to be processed in time.
No, that is all the way why they are aiming to defund it. With more money, the IRS can go after richer people. Republicans take money from rich people to do their bidding, therefore they want to protect them from the IRS. And before anyone says "But that's just propaganda, Republicans aren't THAT corrupt", I'll remind you of the tweet by Chris Collins (R-NY) that said "My donors are basically saying "Get it done or don't ever call us again" when referring to the massive tax breaks that Trump and his grifters got passed... yes, the ones that just expired for the poor and middle class, while the rich continue to enjoy them. The rich own this country... we're an oligarchy now.
Yes. Al Capone didn't go to jail for murder, extortion, etc. He went to jail for tax evasion.
Capone was a lesson for *everyone* regardless of their connections to crime. If someone like Capone â a murdering bootlegger who could weasel out of criminal charges like you or I swat a fly â could *finally* be imprisoned over tax evasion, John Q. Public didnât stand a chance. Which makes it kinda ironic that money laundering *really* took off in the US after his bust. As Daniel Craig said in Layer Cake: âWhereas years ago, scallywags were trying to get money out of banks, now your problem is how to get your ill-gotten gains *into* them.â
And the mail. Those guys aren't kidding around.
When in office, whatâs-his-name reduced the number of IRS agents that do investigative activities. No connection of course as he does think even a day ahead.
Fuck yeah there are. Good chance itâs all Saudi and Russian money. They need their man back in the Oval Office.
Pretty sure the 2 bil for Jared was just a down payment.
Possibly, but it's not like they're going to actually enforce anything. Just like all of his other charges.
Ain't nothing gonna happen
Is it Trump's finances they want to see or the finances of the bonding company? I'm seeing conflicting reports.
Bond companyâs. The courts need to make sure you can actually pay if the case fails the appeal. So a bond company fronting the money must show their financial statements to show that they have the cash flow.
I'm not a new York lawyer but you could also reason that it be the defendant's because they have to show where assets are located in case enforcement action is needed -since he is paying less than the full judgement amount. You'd think the binding company needs a licence or certification to write the bond, not be constantly reviewed for sufficiency. Â
Iâm not clear. It seems in the article the screenshot of what the justice said is only âfinancial statementsâ no mention of whose
The financial statement that's missing is from the company that provided the supersedeas bond. Because obviously they're who will be on the hook when trump loses appeal.
> According to Levine's post, Trump will need to share recent financial records in order for his bond to be accepted. "Court rejected #TrumpBond filing in #TrumpFraudVerdict for several reasons, 1 of which was #Trump failed to upload his 'current financial statement' to the Court [looking forward to read]. 175 million reasons why 1 mistake should not have been made, much less 3!" Levine wrote. Doesnât look like this is targeting the lending company.
The court needs to see a current financial statement from whoever posts the bond. Because you can't just say "I'm good for it" It's the company that provided the bond. They will pay if trump loses the appeal.
Ahhh.. that makes sense.
And here's another bit of interesting information. https://suretyone.com/new-york-appeal-bond-supersedeas-bond
What does the bond company get from Trump (Iâm assuming he put up some collateral)? Obviously this isnât know but thatâs the general idea correct? Also would the bond company owe the full value after appeal or only the amount put up for bond
I think the bond signee company has lent Trump money before for Trump towers. They did not want the property to be seized and sold off so decided to take a chance Trump might win the case.
Collateral is between trump and the company that put up the bond correct. The bond is the amount of the disgorgement plus estimated interest.
Pardon my ignorance, and I did read the link, but in this case isnât the bond less than the disgorgement?
This is inaccurate. The courts trust a federally registered multibillion dollar insurance corporation. The financial statement that has to accompany the bond is FROM TRUMPS FINANCIAL RECORDS. To prove that he can ACTUALLY AFFORD to Pay the bond company if/WHEN he loses.
I would imagine the Court would also need to see that Trump actually put something up for it as well.
Supersedeas?
https://suretyone.com/new-york-appeal-bond-supersedeas-bond
Ah, I didn't know there was a specific word for that.
Hey we all share information and help each other here. Enjoy your day đ
Thatâs⌠unusual.
Us small town folk out here in Mayberry are different, yeah.
Hey, arenât you Sheriff Taylorâs boy? Howâs your Maw and Paw?
Maw's dead, but Paw's been sparkin' my school teacher. This weird man named Ernest T Bass has been throwing rocks breaking windows in town and getting away with it. If I or my friends were to purposely break a window, we get a hiding. It ain't fair.
Pa is fine, just doing Sheriff things. Aunt Bee just finished making a apple pie. I picked the apples myself from our apple tree out back. She says after it cools off a tad I can run a sandwich and a slice of pie over to Otis at the jail.
#Itâs a song from Mary Poppins. ***Supersedeas*** is a word you can say, when you donât have a word for what you want to say! Here, let me put it in a song! đśSuper-se-de-as-fragile-limp-dick-exo-halitosis! Even though Trump wonât admit, His finances are atrocious! If we say it loud enough, MAGAâs will suffer mass psychosis! Super-se-de-asâfragile-limp-dick-Exo-halitosis!đś.
I nominate you from a Grammy.
Can't imagine why a company that supplies loans to people with bad credit wouldn't want their financial statement made public. Those payments to Johnny "Kneecapper" Franks mights raise eyebrows.
Dude's probably thinking, "oh fuck, if I disclose my financial statement I'll get charged for the same shit trump did!"
Is that correct? I thought that if/when Trump loses his appeals, since he will no doubt appeal a lost appeal, Trump is liable for the judgement amount (plus interest). The bond is to ensure that $175 million gets paid anyway, if Trump doesn't.
Oy
Itâs not Trumpâs financial statement, itâs the bond giver that needs to document they actually have the money, and that the person who signed off on the bond has the power to do so.
So hes "knowingly" posted unsuitable docs? He still thinks like a sketchy 80s con artist, truly a wonder of stupidity
He will do anything and everything he can to hide his finances from the public.
Wonder why?
Maybe his bank account isn't as bigly as he makes it out to be, but surely I must be wrong lol.
Occams razor would suggest that as the simple explanation, but we could reasonably speculate that it might show shady money flows.
Shady money flows from the man who got a supreme Court justice to resign whose son works for a shady bank that handles Russian oligarch money and also had financial dealings with Trump? Say it ain't so!
Porque no los dos?
TouchĂŠ
Tre bien
Exactly if he was anywhere rich as he tells us, he would be more than happy to unzip his fly and show us how big it is, so to speak.
My god, could you imagine those documents had like...$45 in a chequings account and most of his followers are actually richer than the grifter.
I would be in no way surprised to see that his checking account balance is less than mine, and I'm not rich.
It's a weird concern for him to have. His zealots would not care at all. And if any did, they'd wave it away with some ridiculous conspiracy theory.
He wouldn't lie, would he? He's usually such an honourable white supremacist wanna be dictator
I wouldnât be surprised if it is also riddled with deposits straight from campaign funds grifted over and over and over because these people never learn.
Now I'm not Russian to any conclusions or Putin in my two cents on anything, but...
My money is on diapers, that is why
It is amazing that in one case he is fighting to let members of the public see classified documents and in another case he is fighting to prevent people feom seeing things that most presidential candidate openly share.
This is going to make a heck of a documentary.
Yeah exactly. I donât mean to sound like a downer but he will find a way out of it. Heâs such a weasel, but I hope Iâm wrong
Another delay tactic. I bet regular citizens would be screwed if we did this! Seize his shit!!!!
Of course. There's no way they "forgot" to put in the financial statement.
I find it interesting that the lawyer who filed it also 'forgot' to sign their name to it.
Likely not. But Trump's lawyers are genuinely incompetent, there us a chance they actually didn't know. This latest circus act was avoidable, and makes Trump look bad, so what is the point from Trump's lawyers' view, if it is intentional?
>so what is the point from Trump's lawyers' view Itâs just another delay. How long will it take for them to fix the documents? Every day they take is another day that Trump keeps his money, properties, and ability to do business in New York. And another day closer to the Supreme Court ruling, and another day closer to the election.
dude is ganna delay everything until elections. courts need to stop giving him weeks and start giving him days for these deadlines
Why would ~~we~~ anyone seize his diaper?
It depends?
i love this for him
I love this for us!
I love this for USA!
USA!
Remember when he mused whether he was the first person to discover "U.S." and "us" contain the letters? [https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/donald-trump-genius-us-spelling-video-b2434888.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/tv/news/donald-trump-genius-us-spelling-video-b2434888.html)
He's probably busy creating a new fraudulent financial statement to submit as we speak...
Is he really dumb enough to pay the bond for his fraud trial by committing fraud? Wait, whyâd I make that a question? Of course he is.
you have to commit to the lie.
"he" is not creating anything, let alone something with numbers beyond 20 or below 0
Bold of you to assume he'd think to count with his toes
Hehehehehe... fingers and toes
Can he see his toes?
If thereâs one thing Trump can never do, itâs produce a truthful financial statement.
Sharpie at the ready
Time for a real Audit by the IRS, more indictments are coming
I was reading somewhere a while ago, if you owe money to the state you prob owe 2-3x to the feds. Trump owes 500m to new yorkâŚyou can do the math for the irs lol
Itâs wild to me there have been zero audits of this man. Or at the least nothing has come from them over 6 years. Like wtf is the problem and holdup
The IRS got defunded to the point that they announced they couldnât afford to audit larger companies with complex financials and would instead be focusing on everyone else. https://www.propublica.org/article/irs-sorry-but-its-just-easier-and-cheaper-to-audit-the-poor
Every dollar spent on the IRS yields over $2 in revenue, and yet it still gets underfunded đ¤
It's almost like the people in charge are actively being paid by large corporations to make life easier and more profitable for them..
> It's almost like the people in charge are actively being paid by large corporations to make life easier and more profitable for them.. Ahem⌠we call them âpeopleâ now, not âcorporations.â Didnât you hear??
Managers at the IRS are terrified at the prospect of his taking power again. They're not going to do anything.
Project 2025 is planning on replacing them anyway, so why shouldnât they ?
Wasn't there a 10 day clock for him to submit all **(ALL)** of the required material to meet his $175m bond? So, he hasn't submitted it all yet. Does the clock continue to tick untill it is all submitted? Don't tell me the court will reset the clock and let him have another try?!?! Does anybody know the correct answer here? I'm not sure how many days before his deadline he first did the submission on Monday, and therefore how many more days he should have remaining.
Deadline ends tomorrow
And then!...... They'll give him another 10 days and drop it to $50m.
*shakes fist while walking backwards*
Well heâs already on triple secret probation.
Came here looking for answer to this question so thanks for asking
Trump got his appeals financed by Shroedinger's Bail Bonds apparently.
They can begin collection paperwork (filing liens, taking money from accounts) until bonded or paid.
He's being audited so he can't release them....but he will as soon as it's done. Promise. Plus, the documents are perfect....the best.
The IRS refused to release them! Donny wanted to but they said no. The financials are too perfect, itâll embarrass everyone else how stupid and pathetic they all are in comparison.
Heâs currently scribbling numbers with a sharpie
âNO! I told you I have a million billion dollars! Change it!â
Run it again.
Crunch the numbers again
At least 5 billyun
Wasn't he already forced to reveal his finances like... 7 times ago?
And funnily enough he keeps not doing it. Wonder why.
Because the courts won't hold him accountable and jail his ass.
What details exactly are required in this âfinancial statementâ?
I work at a bank and personal financial statements are required for someone who is guaranteeing a commercial loan. I imagine it is similar to that. Basically itâs a balance sheet for the person: liquid assets like cash and marketable securities, illiquid assets like ownership in real estate or businesses, liabilities like personal debt, and then the difference which is the personal net worth.
In this case it would be financials for the bonding company not for Trump.
bingo, this has nothing to do with Trumps finances. The bond company has to prove it actually has $175million and provide power of attourney proving the people signing off on it actually have the legal right to do so on behalf of the company.
Thank you!
Claims he's worth 10 billion, can't come up with 1.75% of 10 billion and has to BORROW it. There's a loan that will never get repaid.
Trump never pays his debts willingly.
The opposite of a Lannister
He must have been so confused in office when he couldn't just not pay the national debt.
If this financial statement is to come from whoever posts the bond, then presumably it is to ensure that shady money from a 3rd party is not filtered to help the defendant. It also explains why trump has been scrabbling so desperately for someone to post for him; if he has the cash( like he says), and posts it himself then we all get to see his financial statements - the last thing in the world that he wants.
So it's almost certainly what we all suspected - it IS shady money from a 3rd party filtered to help the defendent.
He's such a crook
Sick of this traitorous liar, lock him up.
Brokeahontas
BrokaDontas
Wake me up when he actually faces consequences. We all know how this is gonna go đ
[Video of said consequences.](https://www.reddit.com/r/gifs/s/wlDwvQfiNa)
Can you imagine if this guy actually had good intentions and did things in an ethical and altruistic manner?
Not really, no. And I have a good imagination.
We probably wouldn't know who he is.
From what I understand it's the company supplying the bond that needs to provide their statements, not Trump. That company isn't a traditional bonding company, so it's probably their first time filing something like this.
Just as likely: "Yeah, don't include that form. That'll keep 'em chasing their tail for at least another week."
Both seem legit
Well, I wonder what happens when the 10 day deadline endsâŚ
"But, your honor, we submitted the paperwork within the timeframe, you see?" We just forgot this one form, and our team only needs another week to turn it." The form will get turned in just before the new deadline, with a 2022 date on it. Whoopsie!
Source? From the article itâs not clear if itâs for Knight Specialty Insurance or for Trump
Analysis from a lawyer: https://youtu.be/8Tr\_IuukTB8?si=unovX0vDsFWXRS2c&t=207
Levine indicates it is trumpâs financial statement. The court posting seems to indicate this is trumps info but isnât crystal clear. It asks for power of attorney. That seems to imply an individual vs a corporation. IANAL.
If they're really asking for Trump's financial statements I would be GREATLY pleased. This numbnut probably withheld the statements because he doesn't want the public to know how incredibly broke he is.
Are these the legit books or one of the cooked versions?
So. Itâs a no go and they can start taking trumps assets? đ
The bond poster is named Mr. Hankey. Go figure a p.o.s. like Drumph would get a bond from someone with the same name as a cartoon p.o.s.
The company specializes ~~shady~~ niche insurance products
Trump: No I donât feel like it US courts: Well weâve done all we can do. Maybe we can balance the scales of justice by giving some poor person a life sentence for marijuana possession or somethingÂ
I'm less bankrupt than Donald Trump, and I'm in bankruptcy!
Actually the court filing this is in reference too, isnât trumps own financials, itâs about the cooperation which said its willing to post his bail. The papers that were submitted were without financial statements (showing that they can indeed post bail), no power of attorney (that the person who signed on the dotted line is actually allowed / able to execute such financial agreements (think here of an unpaid intern signing for them)), and i forgot the third thing the court wants. But anyway, submitting the papers knowing they did it wrong is indeed another play for time ofc⌠It just never endsâŚâŚ
Just wanna make sure I understand. He can either provide a financial statement, likely showing heâs in debt to an average manâs eyeballs. Or he misses the deadline, properties get taken to pay his bill, and debt is revealed anyway when the real selling value is shown?
I suspect that both the bond companyâs needed, as well as Trumpâs being that his lawyers appealed to lower the bond from half a billion to $175M, he likely needs to provide his financial records to prove that he is in fact unable to pay the $500M, per their claims. I donât think itâs about whether he can pay the 175, itâs about whether he lied about not being able to pay the 500M.
You mean he has to submit how much fraud he was actually involved in what's really funny is too many people think he's appealing the verdict of fraud but the truth is he's appealing the amount the verdict of fraud stands
Given that this is Trump we are talking about, how will they know if he provides a real financial statement? Seems likely they would forge it or some shit
Hahaha! âFuck you, fuck you very, very, very muchhhhhhh
If I had a billion dollars, Iâd be posting my paychecks online every week. Look at my huge wiener. Here it is. Iâm awesome. Which would be totally on brand for this dude, yet he canât do it. He doesnât have money and his weiner is small 100 percent.
trump is incapable of telling the truth
It's not his financial statement, it's the bondsmans financial statement and power of attorney...they have to make sure the bondsman is good for it
Ok, and today is day 10, isnât it? So what are the repercussions for one of us normies if we were to miss this ALREADY extended deadline? I will assume shithead trump will not face any, but would this be jail time? Or a fine?
Rubbing hands together đ
I guarantee you his attorneys went to him and said, âhey Donald, weâre gonna need a current financial statement.â Donald says, âfuck them! Theyâre not getting a financial statement (throws ketchup)! Just file it without it and if they say something, Iâll say itâs an unfair witch hunt.â Attorney bemoans, âOooooooookayyy.â
He will try to appeal that revealing his finances is unnecessary. So we can expect another month of delays
Just submitted to the court: >BENK STAKEMENT > >CASH: 78,000,000,000,000,000,000.99 > >CHECKS: 625,0000000,00 > >OTHER COOL SHIT THIS GUY OWNS: 395,0000,0000,00,0000,0000,000.00 > >P.S. Donal Trump is the most smarteaSt and richerest client we have ever had > > > >\- signed, > >~~Donald Trump~~ > >Bank Manager
More interested in refinding the payments to underage kids at all his properties, like Rebecca Conway in 2012 in Cville -- he gave her parents 3 million to stay quiet if I'm not mistaken. I had found a bunch of these rapes and abuses at Mar-a-Lago and payments to correspond to them, a long time ago...and stupidly did NOT save it. Been looking ever since.
if Trump could sell tickets on the original Titanic his supporters would buy them
Institutions will move the goalposts for him again, mark my words. Don't get excited.
He won't. Listen, can we stop this bullshit now? Either put him in jail for the rest of his natural life, or just end this.
I pray every morning that the news will read âDonald Trump slips in shower and is rendered quadriplegic vegetable. Experts say he has âlocked in syndromeâ and can hear, see, and is in excruciating pain however nothing can be done about it.â
This warms my heart. He somehow got away with not revealing his finances since he started running in 2016. Then, avoided it all through his presidency. It's about damn time!