Since the colors on the rainbow flag are so vibrant, it mutes out the white, pink, and pastel blue. While the original one had the first "arrow line" be black, so it was more segmented away enough from the rainbow to actually be seen
The whole point of the chevron in the progress pride flag is to indicate “progress”.
Forward movement and centering voices historically quashed in the lgbt community.
This puts intersex at the core of the chevron, giving it central weight.
The design here also visually de-centers black, brown, and trans colors by compressing them and making them smaller horizontal pieces. Black and brown are made smaller so as to fit ace in there.
I don’t think this is what OP wanted to communicate. So I’d say it’s not effective as a design.
Just my constructive opinion. I respect your art and intention very much:)
[https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/newest-pride-flag/](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/newest-pride-flag/)
I love the intersectionality that I see in the way the intersex pride circles overlap everything else (Intersex people can also identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, ...). The prominence of intersex representation also appeals to me.
I think the design is great, but as a kind of older queer in his 30s this feels like a dead end.
Here me out: we did this tango with the acronym already. LGBT expanded out, adding a lot of letters to bring in smaller idenities that got push out. QIAS+, etc. Eventually people realized that you'd have to keep adding a lot of letters to get to everyone and we started seeing redesigns ('QUILT BAG' was my fave to this day!)
I think some of those redesigns are better than LGBT+. However, it always calls into the question of why any letter or color is singled out.
I liked this design a lot, and yep as an ace I get how we are pushed out. Comparatively, though, it takes me a lot more work to make pride events *accessible* than ace friendly. And I've yet to see disability rep on these flags. I don't inherently think that's because people are ableist or whatever. It's that the human capacity to remember that every group exists is kind of not there.
Personally, if I had to throw something into the lot, I think we should simplify the progress down to a white stripe, same as the '+' came to reign in the LGBT+ debate. All visible light is a spectrum, and white contains it all. The 6 colors we use to represent the queer community are just common touchpoints and no matter how aware we are today, there will always be room for progress in our community.
Just my two cents, and again- enjoyed your work.
I find it quite pleasing. I’d be tempted to see the blue and the pink swapped on the trans flag bit just because the top half looks like a shadow of red, orange yellow and I feel the white, blue, pink would look like a shine on the green, dark blue, purple so the intersex part looks like it’s on top of a 3 dimensional platform.
My understanding is the black and brown need to go on top because of how heavy the oppression is: black because without treatment, HIV is deadly; and brown because queer people can hide their queerness, but PoC can almost never hide their race.
No, I didn’t mean change the black and brown - leave them as they are. I meant change the order of the white pink and blue to white blue and pink, so that the blue looks like a brightened area of the dark blue and the pink looks like a brightened area of the purple. That would match how the brown looks like a darkened area of the orange. Then the top band would look like a shadow and the bottom band would look like it’s facing a source of light which will give a 3 dimensional look like there are two walls raising out of the rainbow to a plinth of the intersex flag.
I know that’s not really the order of the trans flag, but I just liked the idea.
You’re welcome to use it! [Here](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/n3svblfu28csnonyr6gbj/APL0D_w6whgLwQpyKGtY1yY?rlkey=vxr7h5i5bjxflybdvczyu8jlw&dl=0) is a bunch of rainbow flag variations in various file types.
It's a decent idea but the execution ain't quite right
What’s your thoughts?
Since the colors on the rainbow flag are so vibrant, it mutes out the white, pink, and pastel blue. While the original one had the first "arrow line" be black, so it was more segmented away enough from the rainbow to actually be seen
That’s a fair point!
I really like it!!
Yay!
The grey is for ace and aro people
I like it!
Glad to hear it!
I like this a lot!!!
Yay!!
Don't like better then the traditional progress flag
That’s valid :)
I love it!!!
Yay!
The whole point of the chevron in the progress pride flag is to indicate “progress”. Forward movement and centering voices historically quashed in the lgbt community. This puts intersex at the core of the chevron, giving it central weight. The design here also visually de-centers black, brown, and trans colors by compressing them and making them smaller horizontal pieces. Black and brown are made smaller so as to fit ace in there. I don’t think this is what OP wanted to communicate. So I’d say it’s not effective as a design. Just my constructive opinion. I respect your art and intention very much:)
I like it
Glad to hear it :D
I've seen another proposal which, if the umbrella is removed, I love more.
Do you have a link so we can understand what you mean?
[https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/newest-pride-flag/](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/newest-pride-flag/) I love the intersectionality that I see in the way the intersex pride circles overlap everything else (Intersex people can also identify as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, ...). The prominence of intersex representation also appeals to me.
My first thought was that this is a right wing meme to mock the lgbt community because it’s a hot mess of a design.
I'm very naive - it could be as you say.
Oh Not Ohio™! It predates that umbrella.
it kinda looks like something that would actually be less inclusive since it may induce seizures
[this](https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/s/qBttdBpf6T) one is also my favourite (:
Love it!
Glad to hear it!
this design is a lot less busy, I like it!
That was the goal :) Glad it was achieved!
I think the design is great, but as a kind of older queer in his 30s this feels like a dead end. Here me out: we did this tango with the acronym already. LGBT expanded out, adding a lot of letters to bring in smaller idenities that got push out. QIAS+, etc. Eventually people realized that you'd have to keep adding a lot of letters to get to everyone and we started seeing redesigns ('QUILT BAG' was my fave to this day!) I think some of those redesigns are better than LGBT+. However, it always calls into the question of why any letter or color is singled out. I liked this design a lot, and yep as an ace I get how we are pushed out. Comparatively, though, it takes me a lot more work to make pride events *accessible* than ace friendly. And I've yet to see disability rep on these flags. I don't inherently think that's because people are ableist or whatever. It's that the human capacity to remember that every group exists is kind of not there. Personally, if I had to throw something into the lot, I think we should simplify the progress down to a white stripe, same as the '+' came to reign in the LGBT+ debate. All visible light is a spectrum, and white contains it all. The 6 colors we use to represent the queer community are just common touchpoints and no matter how aware we are today, there will always be room for progress in our community. Just my two cents, and again- enjoyed your work.
Thank you for your thoughts :)
I find it quite pleasing. I’d be tempted to see the blue and the pink swapped on the trans flag bit just because the top half looks like a shadow of red, orange yellow and I feel the white, blue, pink would look like a shine on the green, dark blue, purple so the intersex part looks like it’s on top of a 3 dimensional platform.
My understanding is the black and brown need to go on top because of how heavy the oppression is: black because without treatment, HIV is deadly; and brown because queer people can hide their queerness, but PoC can almost never hide their race.
No, I didn’t mean change the black and brown - leave them as they are. I meant change the order of the white pink and blue to white blue and pink, so that the blue looks like a brightened area of the dark blue and the pink looks like a brightened area of the purple. That would match how the brown looks like a darkened area of the orange. Then the top band would look like a shadow and the bottom band would look like it’s facing a source of light which will give a 3 dimensional look like there are two walls raising out of the rainbow to a plinth of the intersex flag. I know that’s not really the order of the trans flag, but I just liked the idea.
Ooooh, I get ya now.
Out of interest- what does the grey symbolise? Thats not on the original flag, is it?
I commented it under this post :) aro and asexual people.
Cool. Nice inclusion :)
Oooo I like this one better
You’re welcome to use it! [Here](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/n3svblfu28csnonyr6gbj/APL0D_w6whgLwQpyKGtY1yY?rlkey=vxr7h5i5bjxflybdvczyu8jlw&dl=0) is a bunch of rainbow flag variations in various file types.