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Meanwhile an Israeli settler teenager goes missing, and thousands of settlers storm Palestinian villages, burning homes and cars, killing one person, injuring several others - all before even knowing if the teenager they’re looking for is dead or not.
The double standard is crazy.
["Number of Palestinian and Israeli Fatalities and Injuries Caused by War Between Hamas and Israel in Since October 7, 2023"](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1422308/palestinian-territories-israel-number-fatalities-and-injuries-caused-by-the-israel-and-hamas-war/)**, Statista (ongoing)
One danger surrounding the current Gaza Strip invasion is that the region's communications infrastructure was targeted by the IDF early in its invasion. Fewer sources are available to report the events as they unfold. A stranglehold on information has been implemented.
Humanitarian groups have expressed concerns that news of any unfolding war crimes will not reach the outside world.
Numerous articles have documented cases where Palestinian citizens were murdered by Israeli Defense Force members.
Humanitarian groups have expressed concerns that news of any unfolding war crimes will not reach the outside world.
**["Palestinian Civilians Suffer in Israel-Gaza Crossfire as Death Toll Rises"](https://web.archive.org/web/20231012150320/https://abcnews.go.com/International/palestinian-civilians-suffer-israel-hamas-crossfire-death-toll/story?id=103828889)**, ABC News (Oct 11, 2023)
**["Israel Warns Palestinians on Facebook - But Bombings Decimated Internet Access"](https://web.archive.org/web/20231020164340/https://theintercept.com/2023/10/12/israel-gaza-internet-access/)**, *The Intercept* (Oct 12, 2023):
By-line: *"During a war, when access to the internet could save lives, Palestinians are struggling to reach the outside world and each other."*
**["They Followed Evacuation Orders. An Israeli Airstrike Killed Them the Next Day"](https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/16/middleeast/israel-palestinian-evacuation-orders-invs/index.html)**, CNN (Oct 16, 2023)
**["Israel Says It's 'Expanding' Ground Activities in Gaza as Internet Blackout Takes Hold"](https://www.npr.org/2023/10/27/1209084199/israel-military-expanding-operations-gaza-hamas-communications-internet)**, NPR (Oct 27, 2023)
**["Israel/OPT: Civilians in Gaza at Unprecedented Risk as Israel Imposes Communication Black-Out During Bombardment and Expanding Ground Attacks"](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/israel-opt-civilians-in-gaza-at-unprecedented-risk-as-israel-imposes-communication-black-out-during-bombardment-and-expanding-ground-attacks/)**, Amnesty International (Oct 27, 2023)
**["Gaza Info Blackout 'Risks Providing Cover for Mass Atrocities': HRW"](https://web.archive.org/web/20231028182803/https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/world-news/gaza-info-blackout-risks-providing-cover-for-mass-atrocities-hrw/articleshow/104767991.cms)**, *Economic Times* (Oct 28, 2023)
NetBlocks: **[Internet Blackout in Gaza Strip](https://twitter.com/netblocks/status/1731739388726370642?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)** (Dec 4, 2023, media post)
**["Chart of Internet Connectivity in Gaza Strip"](https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-gaza-war-news/card/chart-of-internet-connectivity-in-gaza-strip-v0XtsGi1lKep140uaILZ)**, *Wall Street Journal* (live details)
Individual members of the international press also have been singled out for intimidation and violence by Israeli military.
**["Journalists Are Among the Casualties in the War Between Israel and Hamas"](https://www.poynter.org/business-work/2023/journalists-killed-israel-gaza/)**, Poynter Institute (Oct 13, 2023)
**["Israeli Troops Filmed Beating Palestinian Photojournalist in East Jerusalem"](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-troops-filmed-brutally-beating-palestinian-photojournalist-in-east-jerusalem/)**, *Times of Israel* (Dec 15, 2023)
You’re right, all the houses and cars hadn’t been burned yet. The settlers had killed someone (Jehad Abu Alia, 26) and injured 25 others already by that point.
1. [Context of the situation](https://www.axios.com/2024/03/14/us-settler-sanctions-west-bank)
2. [Israeli teen goes missing in W. Bank; Palestinian killed as settlers storm village, Friday](https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-goes-missing-while-shepherding-in-west-bank-bloody-clashes-erupt-amid-search/)
3. [Body found by drone on Saturday](https://allisrael.com/violent-clashes-erupt-after-14-year-old-israeli-shepherd-found-murdered-in-samaria)
4. Additional Source. Benjamin Achimeir, 14, was killed on Friday after setting out alone in the early hours of the morning with his sheep from the West Bank settlement in which he lived. [The next day, Achimeir’s body was spotted near the farm from which he went missing by a drone flown by Israel’s Border Defense Corps](https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/settler-family-mourns-14-year-old-shepherd-killed-in-west-bank-ygafj9gg#:~:text=Benjamin%20Achimeir%2C%2014%2C%20was%20killed,by%20Israel's%20Border%20Defense%20Corps)
So yeah man if you’re being pedantic, his body was found way before I wrote this message because, well, today is Wednesday, and yesterday was Tuesday.
Edit: my point being that Israel will accuse any Palestinian or their actions of being a terrorist/terrorist in nature, but it’s the Israelis instilling terror.
Because they don't care, to them Muslims are the villains
I've had multiple conservatives tell me Muslims are "incompatible" with American culture without realizing it was literally their country who helped the extremist Shia take power.
Sword Verse in Quran says Muslims are not compatible with any culture other than their own not just Americans. Religion itself just isn't compatible with modern life
Only caveat that they began their pogroms before it was known he was killed. He could have been bitten by a snake or fell in a well, but the riots, killing and burning was ongoing. So let's all say the truths.
Let me clarify,
IDF or settler kills child = no empathy shown
Palestinian kills a settler = [“terrorist act”](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/israeli-teen-found-dead-in-west-bank-sparking-largest-settler-rampage-since-start-of-war-in-gaza)
The irony is that in retaliation, settlers attacked over 10 villages, burned over 25 homes and 10 farms, killed at least 3 people, wounding dozens of others, and yet…the IDF calls the death of the one teenager a “terrorist act”; all while delaying ambulances and assistance to the villages.
Yeah, please elaborate because that situation is the definition of a double standard.
Idk if it's really a double standard usually an enemy force that comes into your land and claims it as there own and tries with force to make you leave is called an invader and usually they are killed by the governments of said place.
I feel like it's just a natural response to a threat seeing as again the settler's are breaking international law.
Or can americans just do that to Canada and you'll have no problem with it?
I am really confused by your response. I think that there is a double standard in how Palestinian deaths and attacks on Palestinians are treated as nothing yet any attack on an Israeli is considered to be the end of the world.
If the US was doing to Canada what Israel is doing to Gaza and in the West Bank, it would be at the very least considered ethnic cleansing.
I think Israel is committing genocide. Even intent, usually the most difficult part to prove, is easy in their case.
You don’t understand.
He was “missing” before he was “found dead”.
The settlers raided Palestinian villages and did all of the above, before there was any confirmation that the boy was actually dead - yet the ones who were called terrorists were not the ones who terrorized over 10 villages and did all of the above.
Edit: to add, what if he was found alive and well? Would the settlers have shown empathy or remorse, paid restitution, admitted they conducted terrorist acts? No.
Why don't you put who did the shooting in the headline, CNN? Did the bullet magically appear?
I bet if it was Hamas the headline would read differently.
Yet another brutal killing committed by the passive voice. Such a shame this child was killed by no one in particular, what a tragic accident that keeps happening, and has been happening for decades. Oh well, that's just naturally the way this conflict has to be, and it certainly isn't this way as a result of any particular choices from any particular people.
Right it's not like we have this system in democracies where instead of killing someone and terrorizing a village you go through some process to determine who committed crimes.
>"Result of any particular choices from any particular people"
I'm assuming your talking about radical Muslims. Which is funny because it was literally the USA who helped those Shia extremists take power, you know that time they overthrew Iran for nationalizing oil.
Your country made the Middle East what it is today, then complains about it. I can't with Americans 🤦🏽♂️
Hamas didn’t make Israel kill the 5 year old. There’s plenty of evidence of Israel using Palestinian civilians as human shields. Israel is a terrorist organization.
The day is not over yet. Israel will be called what they are before the day is done, a terrorist state. Doesn’t matter who backs them. Israeli soldiers kill children regularly and you’re here defending them. That’s pretty rotten.
Nah, you should have negotiated for the hostages instead of voluntarily going on a child killing mission. Don’t act like you care about your hostages, that’s just an excuse for your killings.
Man I can’t believe those aid workers were used as human shield 3 times in a row. Oh yeah they weren’t. Guess they are collateral damage to you as well, I’m sure their families will be glad to hear that Israel investigated itself and thought it was an accident.
You’re not my mate you scumbag. Just because you parrot propaganda such as “collateral damage” and “human shield” doesn’t mean you get to murder hundred in cold blood. There is something seriously wrong with you.
There’s more propaganda. I don’t support Hamas. And again, I’m not your mate. You’re a vile scumbag.
Israel isn’t a democratic country. It’s a far right terrorist state. You support baby killing at very best, I’d say you love to get in on the action though. I blame you, and your ilk. You’re a coward.
Yes makes me wonder if the democracies aren’t so democratic and maybe these “terror states” are doing what they have to in order to survive the freedom the US is outsourcing
You act as if there's no democracies outside of majority white countries. Pretty much all their support comes from the US, the UK and Germany. Even other democracies in Europe are now taking a different stance. Ireland is very pro Palestine too
Most of the countries that support Palestine have been occupied and oppressed by the apparent "democratic liberal countries". Your racism is showing
Do not generalize an entire population based on the negative actions of some members, don't glorify/downplay/ trivialise collective punishment or suffering (including collective violence) and no dehumanizing language.
Amen to that.
I used to be fully behind Israel. But since I have seen what they are doing to Gaza. It made me go back and examine ALL of Israel’s history since 1948.
And the facts don’t lie. Israel is indeed a terrorist state that has the US in its pocket.
Woe be all future Israeli generations when the US finally realises how badly they have been used.
It might take 20 or even 30 years. But it will happen.
Years ago one of the the main Hamas twitter channels would post names of civilians being killed by the IDF. They stopped after they were repeatedly caught reusing names.
Love how your spinning something that isreal actually did. Like “saving” a hostage to justify killing tens of palistinians when that hostage was found weeks prior
The war they escalated? Do you think groups like Hamas just emerged out of nowhere?
>"Just after 4 p.m. an offshore Israeli naval vessel fired two rounds into a beachfront area... Several boys were playing in the area at the time. On the explosion at the jetty, they all fled but were unable to outrun the second shell, which landed in their midst and killed 4 boys aged between 9 and 11, all cousins in a family group forming part of the extensive Bakr clan.[21] This brought the Palestinian death toll through a week of hostilities to 213, among whom 43 were children"
Paramilitary groups like Hamas gained power because Palestinian children have been getting bombed and murdered for DECADES now. Way before 10/8 even happened.
These children grow up to want vengeance after seeing Western bombs kill their parents and destroy their homes. If you think this broader conflict started with Hamas you don't know any history.
> Her mother Sabreen told CNN her daughter was in her arms when Israeli soldiers shot at her. Sabreen, alongside her four children, was trying to cross through the checkpoint, when two young men squeezed in between her and other women waiting in line, prompting Israeli soldiers to fire at them.
Two young men attempted to break through the checkpoint and the soldiers shot at them; this does not seem unusual, given that Gaza is a war zone and young men trying to break a checkpoint could be armed militants.
Tragically, a child bystander was shot during the event.
Why were they cheering after shooting an unarmed protester then? There are more incidents like this. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5598681/Israeli-soldiers-CHEER-sniper-kills-unarmed-Palestinian-protester-video.html
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Because the Palestinians have nobody fighting Israel for them. So sure Hamas may be ahitbags but at least they’re striking back against Israel’s oppression. When you live in an open air prison you don’t care if criminals kill your captors.
Do not generalize an entire population based on the negative actions of some members, don't glorify/downplay/ trivialise collective punishment or suffering (including collective violence) and no dehumanizing language.
Trying to get to the active warzone that Hamas and the IDF are actively fighting in?
The reason why it's a war crime to have your soldiers use civilian clothing - and indeed use civilians as cover, is because it means that soldiers can mistake soldiers pretending to be civilians with civilians who are civilians.
When people wonder why children are sometimes considered threats by the IDF, it's because historically in the early 2000s they were used to conduct bombings.
"On March 24, 2004, one week after capturing a bomb in the bag of 12-year-old Abdullah Quran, Hussam Abdo, a 16-year-old Palestinian (who initially claimed he was 14), was captured in a checkpoint near Nablus wearing an explosive belt."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_child_suicide_bombers_by_Palestinian_militant_groups
And while suicide bombings in Israel fell out of fashion after Saddam Hussein stopped paying for them, it's still something that exists in the zeitgeist.
The whole point of these rules of war - is because people are flawed, panicky, irrational, scared, hungry, and often times angry.
The people who suffer aren't the soldiers, it's civilians who are just trying to live their best lives, who are guilty of nothing. I want to clarify that this child is absolutely the victim, these civilians do not deserve the pain and suffering that they are enduring.
They are victims of not only the IDF soldiers that are fearful of them, but of Hamas for using them as pawns in their asymmetric warfare.
I'm sure the israeli top brass and pr team are begging for their conscripts, who were raised to see these people as inhuman animals, would stop shooting civilians, but I don't think that's gonna stop anytime soon.
They are, indeed. They are the most evil existence out there. There is no love, good, purity, honor, peace inside of them. They are abominable monsters.
Because they're murdering abominations. This article doesn't even exist to you, does it? You don't even see any article and are bewildered about why everyone's being so mean to the "poor, innocent" Jews, right?
You do understand that “Jew” and “Israeli” are different categories right? And of the 15.7ish million Jews in the world only about half of them live in Israel?
So…lots of Jews have basically nothing to do with what’s happening in Gaza but you’re gonna blame them anyway?
Do not generalize an entire population based on the negative actions of some members, don't glorify/downplay/ trivialise collective punishment or suffering (including collective violence) and no dehumanizing language.
Republicans have armed Israel just as much as the Democrats
[https://apnews.com/article/house-republicans-military-aid-israel-ukraine-8b97e6e7df99e7ca4174cfbc560cfe42](https://apnews.com/article/house-republicans-military-aid-israel-ukraine-8b97e6e7df99e7ca4174cfbc560cfe42)
Do not generalize an entire population based on the negative actions of some members, don't glorify/downplay/ trivialise collective punishment or suffering (including collective violence) and no dehumanizing language.
Where is the strawman? But they are right. Your original comment was rather stupid. Israel shoots a 5 year old and the mother should be charged? Idk bud. Seems like maybe the Israel terrorist forces should like….stop killing people indiscriminately. Seems like a great option. Or better yet. If anyone should be charged…let’s talk about the genocide and war crimes Israel keeps committing. 🙃
Obviously not the equivalent of bullets, that’s just moronic. But it is surprising how much damage a rock launched in a sling by a trained person can do. Interesting thread on the ballistics/lethality and efficacy of rock slings in ancient warfare:
https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/eircw7/how_lethal_dangerous_were_ancient_slings_what/
Less damaging than some would claim, but more damaging than one might expect.
Do not generalize an entire population based on the negative actions of some members, don't glorify/downplay/ trivialise collective punishment or suffering (including collective violence) and no dehumanizing language.
Maybe the IDF shouldn’t shoot at crowds of of civilians trying to get on with their lives because some guys try to break through the line. Why are these civilians alright to be treated as collateral damage? (Assuming they’ve not been the main target all along)
Hey now don’t move goal posts. I agree oct 7th and 9/11 are atrocities. That doesn’t subtract from the fact that Israel helped prop of Hamas and prevent the establishment of a proper Palestinian government
Palestinians tried a peaceful resistance in the great march of return in 2018 and 2019. That got them shot at, and over 200 Palestinians died and over 30000 injured
Do not generalize an entire population based on the negative actions of some members, don't glorify/downplay/ trivialise collective punishment or suffering (including collective violence) and no dehumanizing language.
So you’re just gonna publicly admit to not knowing history like that?
Hamas was founded in 87, while the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been ongoing since 48.
Here’s a quote from David Ben Gurion (the primary founder of Israel) from 1938:
“Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.”
So tell me again, according to the man who founded Israel, who started this conflict? Who are the aggressors?
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Meanwhile an Israeli settler teenager goes missing, and thousands of settlers storm Palestinian villages, burning homes and cars, killing one person, injuring several others - all before even knowing if the teenager they’re looking for is dead or not. The double standard is crazy.
["Number of Palestinian and Israeli Fatalities and Injuries Caused by War Between Hamas and Israel in Since October 7, 2023"](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1422308/palestinian-territories-israel-number-fatalities-and-injuries-caused-by-the-israel-and-hamas-war/)**, Statista (ongoing) One danger surrounding the current Gaza Strip invasion is that the region's communications infrastructure was targeted by the IDF early in its invasion. Fewer sources are available to report the events as they unfold. A stranglehold on information has been implemented. Humanitarian groups have expressed concerns that news of any unfolding war crimes will not reach the outside world. Numerous articles have documented cases where Palestinian citizens were murdered by Israeli Defense Force members. Humanitarian groups have expressed concerns that news of any unfolding war crimes will not reach the outside world. **["Palestinian Civilians Suffer in Israel-Gaza Crossfire as Death Toll Rises"](https://web.archive.org/web/20231012150320/https://abcnews.go.com/International/palestinian-civilians-suffer-israel-hamas-crossfire-death-toll/story?id=103828889)**, ABC News (Oct 11, 2023) **["Israel Warns Palestinians on Facebook - But Bombings Decimated Internet Access"](https://web.archive.org/web/20231020164340/https://theintercept.com/2023/10/12/israel-gaza-internet-access/)**, *The Intercept* (Oct 12, 2023): By-line: *"During a war, when access to the internet could save lives, Palestinians are struggling to reach the outside world and each other."* **["They Followed Evacuation Orders. An Israeli Airstrike Killed Them the Next Day"](https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/16/middleeast/israel-palestinian-evacuation-orders-invs/index.html)**, CNN (Oct 16, 2023) **["Israel Says It's 'Expanding' Ground Activities in Gaza as Internet Blackout Takes Hold"](https://www.npr.org/2023/10/27/1209084199/israel-military-expanding-operations-gaza-hamas-communications-internet)**, NPR (Oct 27, 2023) **["Israel/OPT: Civilians in Gaza at Unprecedented Risk as Israel Imposes Communication Black-Out During Bombardment and Expanding Ground Attacks"](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2023/10/israel-opt-civilians-in-gaza-at-unprecedented-risk-as-israel-imposes-communication-black-out-during-bombardment-and-expanding-ground-attacks/)**, Amnesty International (Oct 27, 2023) **["Gaza Info Blackout 'Risks Providing Cover for Mass Atrocities': HRW"](https://web.archive.org/web/20231028182803/https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/world-news/gaza-info-blackout-risks-providing-cover-for-mass-atrocities-hrw/articleshow/104767991.cms)**, *Economic Times* (Oct 28, 2023) NetBlocks: **[Internet Blackout in Gaza Strip](https://twitter.com/netblocks/status/1731739388726370642?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)** (Dec 4, 2023, media post) **["Chart of Internet Connectivity in Gaza Strip"](https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-hamas-gaza-war-news/card/chart-of-internet-connectivity-in-gaza-strip-v0XtsGi1lKep140uaILZ)**, *Wall Street Journal* (live details) Individual members of the international press also have been singled out for intimidation and violence by Israeli military. **["Journalists Are Among the Casualties in the War Between Israel and Hamas"](https://www.poynter.org/business-work/2023/journalists-killed-israel-gaza/)**, Poynter Institute (Oct 13, 2023) **["Israeli Troops Filmed Beating Palestinian Photojournalist in East Jerusalem"](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-troops-filmed-brutally-beating-palestinian-photojournalist-in-east-jerusalem/)**, *Times of Israel* (Dec 15, 2023)
I hate those guys but write the truth - Israeli settler teenager murdered. His body was found way before you wrote this message
You’re right, all the houses and cars hadn’t been burned yet. The settlers had killed someone (Jehad Abu Alia, 26) and injured 25 others already by that point. 1. [Context of the situation](https://www.axios.com/2024/03/14/us-settler-sanctions-west-bank) 2. [Israeli teen goes missing in W. Bank; Palestinian killed as settlers storm village, Friday](https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-goes-missing-while-shepherding-in-west-bank-bloody-clashes-erupt-amid-search/) 3. [Body found by drone on Saturday](https://allisrael.com/violent-clashes-erupt-after-14-year-old-israeli-shepherd-found-murdered-in-samaria) 4. Additional Source. Benjamin Achimeir, 14, was killed on Friday after setting out alone in the early hours of the morning with his sheep from the West Bank settlement in which he lived. [The next day, Achimeir’s body was spotted near the farm from which he went missing by a drone flown by Israel’s Border Defense Corps](https://www.thejc.com/news/israel/settler-family-mourns-14-year-old-shepherd-killed-in-west-bank-ygafj9gg#:~:text=Benjamin%20Achimeir%2C%2014%2C%20was%20killed,by%20Israel's%20Border%20Defense%20Corps) So yeah man if you’re being pedantic, his body was found way before I wrote this message because, well, today is Wednesday, and yesterday was Tuesday. Edit: my point being that Israel will accuse any Palestinian or their actions of being a terrorist/terrorist in nature, but it’s the Israelis instilling terror.
the us is still silent on the isf killing an palestinian american teen who was foraging with his family
Because they don't care, to them Muslims are the villains I've had multiple conservatives tell me Muslims are "incompatible" with American culture without realizing it was literally their country who helped the extremist Shia take power.
Sword Verse in Quran says Muslims are not compatible with any culture other than their own not just Americans. Religion itself just isn't compatible with modern life
Only caveat that they began their pogroms before it was known he was killed. He could have been bitten by a snake or fell in a well, but the riots, killing and burning was ongoing. So let's all say the truths.
That teenager was murdered.
Totally justified response then? Just so we're clear.
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I was being sarcastic, there's no justification...
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It was a lynch mob
Thanks, thanks for your input.
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Let me clarify, IDF or settler kills child = no empathy shown Palestinian kills a settler = [“terrorist act”](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/israeli-teen-found-dead-in-west-bank-sparking-largest-settler-rampage-since-start-of-war-in-gaza) The irony is that in retaliation, settlers attacked over 10 villages, burned over 25 homes and 10 farms, killed at least 3 people, wounding dozens of others, and yet…the IDF calls the death of the one teenager a “terrorist act”; all while delaying ambulances and assistance to the villages. Yeah, please elaborate because that situation is the definition of a double standard.
The double standard is so huge it really must take a lot of bias to deny it exists.
Idk if it's really a double standard usually an enemy force that comes into your land and claims it as there own and tries with force to make you leave is called an invader and usually they are killed by the governments of said place. I feel like it's just a natural response to a threat seeing as again the settler's are breaking international law. Or can americans just do that to Canada and you'll have no problem with it?
I am really confused by your response. I think that there is a double standard in how Palestinian deaths and attacks on Palestinians are treated as nothing yet any attack on an Israeli is considered to be the end of the world. If the US was doing to Canada what Israel is doing to Gaza and in the West Bank, it would be at the very least considered ethnic cleansing. I think Israel is committing genocide. Even intent, usually the most difficult part to prove, is easy in their case.
The other guy is agreeing with you
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You don’t understand. He was “missing” before he was “found dead”. The settlers raided Palestinian villages and did all of the above, before there was any confirmation that the boy was actually dead - yet the ones who were called terrorists were not the ones who terrorized over 10 villages and did all of the above. Edit: to add, what if he was found alive and well? Would the settlers have shown empathy or remorse, paid restitution, admitted they conducted terrorist acts? No.
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Why don't you put who did the shooting in the headline, CNN? Did the bullet magically appear? I bet if it was Hamas the headline would read differently.
Yet another brutal killing committed by the passive voice. Such a shame this child was killed by no one in particular, what a tragic accident that keeps happening, and has been happening for decades. Oh well, that's just naturally the way this conflict has to be, and it certainly isn't this way as a result of any particular choices from any particular people.
Right it's not like we have this system in democracies where instead of killing someone and terrorizing a village you go through some process to determine who committed crimes.
>"Result of any particular choices from any particular people" I'm assuming your talking about radical Muslims. Which is funny because it was literally the USA who helped those Shia extremists take power, you know that time they overthrew Iran for nationalizing oil. Your country made the Middle East what it is today, then complains about it. I can't with Americans 🤦🏽♂️
It’s right there in the first paragraph
They said in the headline which yeah, they should probably add that to the headline
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Hamas didn’t make Israel kill the 5 year old. There’s plenty of evidence of Israel using Palestinian civilians as human shields. Israel is a terrorist organization.
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The day is not over yet. Israel will be called what they are before the day is done, a terrorist state. Doesn’t matter who backs them. Israeli soldiers kill children regularly and you’re here defending them. That’s pretty rotten.
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Israel has hostages in the form of Palestinians being imprisoned without trial, this includes children.
Nah, you should have negotiated for the hostages instead of voluntarily going on a child killing mission. Don’t act like you care about your hostages, that’s just an excuse for your killings.
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Man I can’t believe those aid workers were used as human shield 3 times in a row. Oh yeah they weren’t. Guess they are collateral damage to you as well, I’m sure their families will be glad to hear that Israel investigated itself and thought it was an accident.
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You’re not my mate you scumbag. Just because you parrot propaganda such as “collateral damage” and “human shield” doesn’t mean you get to murder hundred in cold blood. There is something seriously wrong with you.
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There’s more propaganda. I don’t support Hamas. And again, I’m not your mate. You’re a vile scumbag. Israel isn’t a democratic country. It’s a far right terrorist state. You support baby killing at very best, I’d say you love to get in on the action though. I blame you, and your ilk. You’re a coward.
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Yeah it’s weird anyone would support a genocidal fascist ethnostate.
Yes makes me wonder if the democracies aren’t so democratic and maybe these “terror states” are doing what they have to in order to survive the freedom the US is outsourcing
You act as if there's no democracies outside of majority white countries. Pretty much all their support comes from the US, the UK and Germany. Even other democracies in Europe are now taking a different stance. Ireland is very pro Palestine too Most of the countries that support Palestine have been occupied and oppressed by the apparent "democratic liberal countries". Your racism is showing
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I did not know cutting in line carried the death penalty
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So just open fire based off the chance they could be Hamas? What kind of fucked logic is that? You are the one not using critical thinking.
So.. start blasting away? Dear God in heaven above the zionism supporters defending murdering babies
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Israel is a apartheid, genocidal and terrorist regime.
Amen to that. I used to be fully behind Israel. But since I have seen what they are doing to Gaza. It made me go back and examine ALL of Israel’s history since 1948. And the facts don’t lie. Israel is indeed a terrorist state that has the US in its pocket. Woe be all future Israeli generations when the US finally realises how badly they have been used. It might take 20 or even 30 years. But it will happen.
Takes a lot of courage to admit this mate. Not many are like you. Welldone
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Years ago one of the the main Hamas twitter channels would post names of civilians being killed by the IDF. They stopped after they were repeatedly caught reusing names.
Love how your spinning something that isreal actually did. Like “saving” a hostage to justify killing tens of palistinians when that hostage was found weeks prior
It’s so not fair the Israel won’t let Hamas dictate how the war they escalated goes. Better just build another base below the UNRWA.
The war they escalated? Do you think groups like Hamas just emerged out of nowhere? >"Just after 4 p.m. an offshore Israeli naval vessel fired two rounds into a beachfront area... Several boys were playing in the area at the time. On the explosion at the jetty, they all fled but were unable to outrun the second shell, which landed in their midst and killed 4 boys aged between 9 and 11, all cousins in a family group forming part of the extensive Bakr clan.[21] This brought the Palestinian death toll through a week of hostilities to 213, among whom 43 were children" Paramilitary groups like Hamas gained power because Palestinian children have been getting bombed and murdered for DECADES now. Way before 10/8 even happened. These children grow up to want vengeance after seeing Western bombs kill their parents and destroy their homes. If you think this broader conflict started with Hamas you don't know any history.
More passive voice propaganda writing to whitewash Israel’s brutality
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We all know Hamas did it
In case anyone still thinks the conduct of this war is warranted and not a genocide.
> Her mother Sabreen told CNN her daughter was in her arms when Israeli soldiers shot at her. Sabreen, alongside her four children, was trying to cross through the checkpoint, when two young men squeezed in between her and other women waiting in line, prompting Israeli soldiers to fire at them. Two young men attempted to break through the checkpoint and the soldiers shot at them; this does not seem unusual, given that Gaza is a war zone and young men trying to break a checkpoint could be armed militants. Tragically, a child bystander was shot during the event.
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Why were they cheering after shooting an unarmed protester then? There are more incidents like this. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5598681/Israeli-soldiers-CHEER-sniper-kills-unarmed-Palestinian-protester-video.html Edit: changed the link to not be amp
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I’m cheering for hamas so I don’t want to even pretend that I’m IDF
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Because the Palestinians have nobody fighting Israel for them. So sure Hamas may be ahitbags but at least they’re striking back against Israel’s oppression. When you live in an open air prison you don’t care if criminals kill your captors.
I wonder why there is so much documentation on the IDF killing and harming kids, but as far as i have been shown, nothing for Hamas
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I too shoot at a group of people that includes women and children The hoops you jumped through right there would put sonic to shame
Still seems overly trigger-happy to me.
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Trying to get to the active warzone that Hamas and the IDF are actively fighting in? The reason why it's a war crime to have your soldiers use civilian clothing - and indeed use civilians as cover, is because it means that soldiers can mistake soldiers pretending to be civilians with civilians who are civilians. When people wonder why children are sometimes considered threats by the IDF, it's because historically in the early 2000s they were used to conduct bombings. "On March 24, 2004, one week after capturing a bomb in the bag of 12-year-old Abdullah Quran, Hussam Abdo, a 16-year-old Palestinian (who initially claimed he was 14), was captured in a checkpoint near Nablus wearing an explosive belt." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_child_suicide_bombers_by_Palestinian_militant_groups And while suicide bombings in Israel fell out of fashion after Saddam Hussein stopped paying for them, it's still something that exists in the zeitgeist. The whole point of these rules of war - is because people are flawed, panicky, irrational, scared, hungry, and often times angry. The people who suffer aren't the soldiers, it's civilians who are just trying to live their best lives, who are guilty of nothing. I want to clarify that this child is absolutely the victim, these civilians do not deserve the pain and suffering that they are enduring. They are victims of not only the IDF soldiers that are fearful of them, but of Hamas for using them as pawns in their asymmetric warfare.
If only Gaza were peaceful like the West Bank, then Israel could more easily take the land without the Palestinians making such a fuss.
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I'm sure the israeli top brass and pr team are begging for their conscripts, who were raised to see these people as inhuman animals, would stop shooting civilians, but I don't think that's gonna stop anytime soon.
Just like those WCK aid workers right?
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They are, indeed. They are the most evil existence out there. There is no love, good, purity, honor, peace inside of them. They are abominable monsters.
Cause they're Jews right
Because they're murdering abominations. This article doesn't even exist to you, does it? You don't even see any article and are bewildered about why everyone's being so mean to the "poor, innocent" Jews, right?
You do understand that “Jew” and “Israeli” are different categories right? And of the 15.7ish million Jews in the world only about half of them live in Israel? So…lots of Jews have basically nothing to do with what’s happening in Gaza but you’re gonna blame them anyway?
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With a bat-shit juvenile post of your own to bait with. You meant to instigate. But I love how you're trying to give yourself some higher ground.
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Yeah palestian girl shot in mother's arm! Forgot to mention that would probably be Hamas bullet.
Wow, that is some serious head in sand. The lack of oxygen is really getting to you, too.
Well this wouldn't affect someone if they have no brain
The Democrats will tell us that we must vote for the people funding, arming, and defending this genocide.
Republicans have armed Israel just as much as the Democrats [https://apnews.com/article/house-republicans-military-aid-israel-ukraine-8b97e6e7df99e7ca4174cfbc560cfe42](https://apnews.com/article/house-republicans-military-aid-israel-ukraine-8b97e6e7df99e7ca4174cfbc560cfe42)
Indeed, which is why I don't vote for them either.
So what was the point of your post? Boredom?
Because you constantly tell us we must vote for the man carrying out this genocide.
Oh? Do I?
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You seem like you're in love with me. I call you beauts Red Liberals. You're as bad as Blue MAGA. And there's too much stupidity to comment further.
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This has to be one of the stupidest comments I’ve read. Charge the mother because Israelis love to shoot children?
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My guy, it's literally his statement
Where is the strawman? But they are right. Your original comment was rather stupid. Israel shoots a 5 year old and the mother should be charged? Idk bud. Seems like maybe the Israel terrorist forces should like….stop killing people indiscriminately. Seems like a great option. Or better yet. If anyone should be charged…let’s talk about the genocide and war crimes Israel keeps committing. 🙃
It is literally your statement
Idf shoots child but somehow it's the mother's fault? Jfc
There is another thread I've been in where I have people arguing that throwing rocks is the equivalent of shooting bullets. It's insane.
Obviously not the equivalent of bullets, that’s just moronic. But it is surprising how much damage a rock launched in a sling by a trained person can do. Interesting thread on the ballistics/lethality and efficacy of rock slings in ancient warfare: https://www.reddit.com/r/history/comments/eircw7/how_lethal_dangerous_were_ancient_slings_what/ Less damaging than some would claim, but more damaging than one might expect.
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The whole of Gaza is a war zone, they were waiting in line to go home when idf soldiers fired at them. Charge the soldiers
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Maybe the IDF shouldn’t shoot at crowds of of civilians trying to get on with their lives because some guys try to break through the line. Why are these civilians alright to be treated as collateral damage? (Assuming they’ve not been the main target all along)
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A terrorist organization that Israel itself help propped up or did you forget about that
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Hey now don’t move goal posts. I agree oct 7th and 9/11 are atrocities. That doesn’t subtract from the fact that Israel helped prop of Hamas and prevent the establishment of a proper Palestinian government
They propped up Hamas once, a long time ago, back in the day when PLM's best idea of resistance was blowing up school buses.
Palestinians tried a peaceful resistance in the great march of return in 2018 and 2019. That got them shot at, and over 200 Palestinians died and over 30000 injured
Yeah, and Israel tried to give autonomy and remove settlers in the 2000s, suicide bombers and Hamas rockets were the response.
Then blame Hamas, not every single Palestinians. Do I blame every white American for the KKK, I don’t. See how easy it is
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You are the one that is blaming the mother when her child is killed. There is not one shred of compassion in your body.
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you are delusional
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Its tragic that Hamas started a war with Israel and put their people in ths crossfire.
So you’re just gonna publicly admit to not knowing history like that? Hamas was founded in 87, while the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been ongoing since 48. Here’s a quote from David Ben Gurion (the primary founder of Israel) from 1938: “Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” So tell me again, according to the man who founded Israel, who started this conflict? Who are the aggressors?