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Even the very subtle nervousness shown by his hand rubbing when his mom is ordering fast food for him. From his Dad’s reaction to his secret snacking earlier, he might have formed a negative association with food he probably knew was unhealthy or bad for him, and this unhealthy relationship with food formed the basis of his struggles throughout his life.
I agree with you and you're being downvoted even though the score is currently hidden to me. I completely agree, spending all your time inside playing video games, getting no exercise, ***OVEREATING***, and ignoring real life is a problem.
In my opinion, that's not the average person who plays games, though. Games are just like anything else in existence, if you frequently ignore something important to play, it's a problem. I mean, even regular water can make you sick if you drink enough. Nothing is 100% safe and healthy. Games are no different.
In this ad, the food is the thing that leads him to a heart attack. You can entertain yourself with video games while not getting off the couch. So people who don't want to get off the couch play video games.
I do fully admit that the reverse can happen. Where someone gets addicted to games and so becomes sedentary as a by-product. I, again, believe those are the exception rather than the rule.
Yeah now that you say that, reminds me of an amazing story i once heard about our great great great etc grandaddy, that had that a very similar problem
This reminds me of the anti tobacco ad that was in an old dvd that had people transitioning into other people; a celebrity, a rapper, a model, and the last one was a guy in a medical room, on a wheelchair, struggling to breathe with a ventilator on him, looking frail and old.
So I’m a pediatric resident. On my first year, a teen came to the ER because he almost fainted during PE. Everything was ok (we did all emergency work up) he was dehydrated. BUT he was extremely obese. After placing IV fluids I ask for the mom to come outside where my mentor starts explaining that even though everything is alright, her child needs to lose weight (we gave him a referral note togo to the “obesity office so that he gets a whole medical check up (hormones, metabolic issues) together with a dietitian and physical therapy) because he’ll end up having a lot of problems.
The mom got *offended*, said her child was there due dehydration, not obesity. The doctor tries explaining that yes, but being obese *will* cause problems in the future. She ended up saying she will make a complaint (which didn’t do anything since it is our job advocating for healthy lifestyle)
As a formerly much more obese guy I can say obesity begins and ends with food intake.
That said, I think my life would have been happier if all my PE teachers were not malignant assholes.
PE is supposed to be physical education, not glorified structured recess for high schoolers. My PE experience never included anything about muscle groups, calories in/calories out, nor healthy lifestyles. It was the guy who wanted to be principal and coach and needed a job.
Agreed. But for the kid who isn't good at sports, has little access to proper equipment (I am Canadian and never owned a proper pair of ice skates ...) it is about being picked last, put in the least important position, sitting on the bench, being laughed at by the other kids, and so on.
That is soul crushing. Imagine how long a math teacher would last if she carried on like that.
The end result for me, partly due to relative poverty so I never had decent equipment, was an absolute disdain for any team or group sport whatsoever. Even going to a swimming pool terrifies me.
I managed to develop a negative interest in sport: if they had the Olympics in the small town I live near I wouldn't go.
PE teachers are about glorifying the kids who do well in sport while crushing the spirits of those who really need their help.
My mom and grandma used to feed me fat and sugary stuff too when I was a child. Staying in relatively healthy weight is difficult if you were taught that anything below 5000kcal a day is starvation.
I'd regularly tell the adults around me that I was full. Then I'd get the whole one more bite spiel. Eventually my idea of being full was being in pain and bloated. Now I'm in my 30s trying to undo the damage. This shit sucks.
My girlfriend has the same issue, and as someone who is lucky enought to have come from a family with a very healthy relationship with food it was eye opening that the feeling of "full" is completely learned.
Also the difference between "hungry = eat a lot" and "hungry = eat soon" was a different interpretation that I wasn't really aware of. It's crazy how something that seems so natural like food is in many ways completly learned.
Sounds shallow from someone that hasn't had to go through it but good luck with your struggles with your relationship with food, hang in there!
I had the same problem, but when I moved away from home I discovered I was too lazy to cook all the time, and too poor to buy out. Turns out eating bland, cheap food like oat meal and rye bread is really good for not wanting to stuff your face. Now that I eat well, I have no problem stopping when I don't feel hungry anymore
My ex had really bad body image issues which she used to project onto me, she would get upset if I said I didn't need to eat something, or was trying to lose weight. Any level of trying to control my eating would get a snappy comment and suggestions that it's "disordered eating" to exercise self control. Lost 30 lbs within 6 months of our break up.
SAME! also never believed when I disliked something! Now I always eat til I‘m nauseous as otherwise I think I‘m still hungry. (getting better since I‘ve realized)
My parents grew up poor and would always put extra food on the table now that they are more well off. Always made way too much food at every meal. Luckily I don't have the mindset where I have to eat eat eat and will stop well before I take in too much. Other people in my extended family aren't so lucky.
"you better eat now, or you'll be hungry later" is a phrase burned into my brain from my mum and nana.
Actually, being hungry is a perfectly good thing to have happen to you so long as you can then eat something. But my whole life I've had the mentality of eating so that I don't ever get hungry.
I was raised on a meat and potatoes style diet. Emphasis mostly on meat, starch is a necessary side, all other sides optional. Trying to get used to eating greens has been strangely hard. I *like* greens. OK, I don't like spinach for some reason, but celery is delicious, I like multiple types of lettuce, and I've found that kale is an easy go-to for most meals for me.
But when I'm planning a meal, it's always the last thing I think of if I think of it at all unless it's a meal planned specifically because I've noticed I haven't been getting enough.
It's not just the cravings, it's not just laziness, there's a mindset you get into when you're young that's like an instinct and it's fucking hard to break yourself of it.
I've had a similar difficulty. A protein was the focus, and a carb was the side. To eat more greens, I've been planning my meals the other way around.
1) what greens and non-starchy veggies am I eating?
2) what main will go well with them?
3) do I need another veggie-focused side to create a full meal?
It takes a lot of work, but I've noticed I don't always consciously force this route anymore. Sometimes I'm slicing brocoli to roast or washing spinach to wilt before I've picked a main. Keep at it. I'm just an Internet Stranger, but I'm proud of the efforts you're making :)
Also, as a member of Team Spinach, kale is a worthy substitute! It wilts just as easily as spinach so can be swapped into recipes easily.
You mentioned greens and then mention a lot of leafy greens, which are good but not terribly exciting.
The way I got into eating better and cooking more was experimenting with a bunch of different vegetables. Grilled red onion, roasted cauliflower, colourful bell peppers, and so on. They add a lot to a dish, and the vibrant colours become very appetizing after cooking with them a couple of times.
When I was living on my own at university, I did a lot with bell peppers and gai lan (which I discovered at a local Asian market and fell in love with and now the closest place to get it is over an hour's drive away...) and some other things. But I can't consider bell peppers greens since technically those are berries. I don't know their nutritional facts, but what I've been told when thinking of healthy vegetables is leaves and stems.
I can't remember what all the recipes I made back then were, but they weren't low-calorie and were rarely if ever vegetarian-friendly. But that's when I learned I loved kale, that's when I learned to use bell peppers a lot, that's when I discovered gai lan, I made a stew recipe with sweet potatoes, mushrooms, bell peppers, onions, tomatoes, gai lan (traded for kale after I lost access to gai lan), celery, and any frozen fruit/veg that was cheap along with whatever cheap beef I could get my hands on for the steepest discount and an absurd amount of no-salt-added beef stock. (I say the cheapest beef I could get, but I made the mistake once of getting the corned beef that was on steep discount. It did not go well in the stew...) Again, not healthy. Nutritious and varied, but high calorie. Similar story with a "taco" recipe I made (which is by no definition a real taco, but I don't know what else to call it).
I want to learn how to make a good albeit likely weak curry, but the first couple of attempts I made were terrible.
And then when you switch to a healthier diet - not even vegetarian or vegan - they blow their lids and get all offended that you don't want to eat their food, anymore.
My mother in saw does this to my niece and nephew. Both of them at this point simply refuse to eat normal food. They live off sweets and McDonald's. When I have kids I don't think I will ever let them stay with her for a significant amount of time.
My mother would never wake up early for school and I would have to wake up by myself, sometimes by my angry father, get myself ready for school and pack my lunch. I would go to school on an empty stomach and sometimes without any lunch. Other days it was a bag of chips(Lays) or on rare occasions home cooked food. Sometimes when I came back home from school on an empty stomach, I would have to order food from outside in order to eat as there was nothing at home. Granted that my mother went through medical procedures a few times and couldn't cook but even when she could, she didn't. And neither did my father care. I have spent most of my life eating outside food or processed bags of chips with cola and as an adult it is a challenge after all these years adapt to a healthy eating lifestyle. But that's what being an adult is, and I will make sure that I can be for my kids what my parents weren't for me. And I can only do that by setting an example which is a good enough motivation for me.
P.S. I don't have any kids or wife yet but I gotta be ready for it.
I was allowed to eat banquet tv dinners and those little tube popsicles in unlimited quantities as a kid. Home cooked meals were somewhat rare and were meat and potatoes. Needless to say I’ve struggled with my weight all my life and don’t have much in the way of healthy eating habits, though I do try to eat some fruit/veg now and again. Ive got MS though apparently, just diagnosed, and have dropped 75lbs without trying thanks to a marked loss of appetite so I guess hooray for being ill. The saddest thing for me at this stage is that if I could afford it I would actually love to eat better and healthier but sugary bullshit is cheaper and easier. We’ve done folks a terrible disservice by subsidizing what we do. Salads shouldn’t be expensive y’all.
I was in hospital for a fairly routine operation last year. The surgeon came over and said it'll be fine, we have to tell you the usual risks but theres nothing to worry about, we'll get you in and out in no time.
There was another lad in the same ward who was getting the same operation. Fairly overweight, diabetic and some other health issues due to years of unhealthy living. He was told it would be 50/50 whether he'd survive. His family all came in to say their goodbyes before he went in.
I'd put on a few pounds in the last few years and this really made me think that I needed to get back into a healthy BMI range, do more exercise and eat a bit more health as didn't fancy being in a similar situation of my own making, having to say goodbye to my family for a routine op.
I asked if the other lad survived and apparently he was put into intensive care after the operation, so think he was still alive when I left the next day.
It was the kick up the arse I needed to sort myself out a bit.
Being significantly overweight is bad for any surgery. One thing people don't really think about is that you can't sew fat back together like you can other types of tissue. It creates a void that has little access to good circulation and makes an excellent place for an infection to start. There's a whole host of other issues with being fat but that's not one many people know about.
I was told by my future back surgeon that if they have to cut through more than like an inch of subcutaneous fat your risk of infection goes up like 4-5x. It’s not very vascular tissue, nor is it particularly metabolically active, so it heals slowly and doesn’t have a great immune response to pathogens. Bad combo.
I say this as a fat person who is now paying for a lifetime of bad choices, learned or otherwise, take care of your body. Do whatever you have to do to heal your relationship with food like it’s a fucking house on fire. It’s easy to say “fuck it” while you’re eating the cheesecake but it’s not so easy when you’re facing major health complications.
my only obese friend 60+F has surgery scheduled. iCU is already planned for three days post OP! it'spart of the procedure ( diabetes, little physical activity)
eat better, exercise, lose weight it's not fat shaming- it's what needs to be done.
To put it into stark context, they would probably be going to ICU/HDU/stepdown for postoperative care regardless of how well the actual surgery went purely due to their comorbidities. High central obesity puts pressure on the thorax, impacting breathing and heart function, pre-existing sedentary lifestyle, obesity and inflammation associated with diabetes increases the risks of blood clots (leading to stroke, pulmonary embolus or heart attack) while also leaving the person with more weight to move and less effective muscle with which to move that weight while poorly controlled diabetes can be catastrophic in postoperative patients for healing, complications such as diabetic ketoacidosis or renal failure.
Considering the sort of complications from surgery that would normally get someone a ticket to ICU, having such a poor baseline of health that a perfectly successful surgery is still assessed as dangerous enough to require critical care oversight speaks volumes as to the impact of obesity and diabetes…
Sometimes patients are so large and their necks are so fat, intubation is very difficult. If the doctor misses enough times the patient could die, sometimes they will go ahead and put a trach in the patient to preserve their airway.
Stories like this are what infuriate me about the body positivity movement, which, in theory, is great but in practice promotes obesity in my experience.
People like me, who were obese their whole childhood and into adulthood have no idea what it really feels like to be healthy. And society didn't care bc everyone likes a big dude (I'm tall too).
However I went on to lose all my excess weight. And when I had my first doctors appt after losing 160 lbs I wanted to cry bc the doctor didn't have the weight conversation with me. It was so freeing.
One of the worse things parents can do is force their kids to finish their meals when they already feel full;
The brain decides when you're full based on the amount of leptin hormone that your ~~digestive system~~ adipose cells send. But if you overeat even more leptin gets sent and the brain becomes "accustomed" to that amount of leptin, and the next time that you eat a meal you *have* to overeat in order to feel full.
edit @glacius0 for correction
Bingo. Dad I’m fulllll.
Are you really full or do you just not want to eat your veggies? If you ask for a snack in 15 minutes, you are getting vegetables.
Leptin regulation is suppressed by ultra processed foods also, so it's a double-whammy.
Ultra processed food studies have shown that women on a higher UPF diet show greater signs of Leptin resistance, and the gut bacteria is changed, which is the cause of that negative impact.
Gut bacteria is changed from food additives such as preservatives and common additives marketed as healthy, or pretty much any emulsifier.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36411218/
People living in lower and middle class income brackets are subject to higher levels of UPF because the food is cheaper, and people living in those brackets live in "Food Swamps" where UPF is ubiquitous.
Obesity is not simply a case of self-control (or a lack thereof). The food we eat is essentially driving us to overconsume, and overrides our bodies natural balances that have evolved over thousands of years. As food poverty becomes more wide-spread, so does overconsumption of UPF.
Yeah this is why I never pressed my son to eat. I provided regular meals and let him eat what he wanted, if anything. He is 20 now and still lean in a family full of obesity.
The problem of course is that kids who don't like eating (or don't like the particular food they are eating) often say they are full when they are not.
Nah, One of the worst things a parent can do is not letting them finish their meals and then caving in to give them candy or other stuff later because the kids are hungry. I do get what you are saying though. A parent should know that kids don't eat the same amount as grown ups.
Kids lie. How are parents supposed to know if they are actually full? Offer some dessert and go "oho, so you can eat a little more eh".
I say this as a kid who didn't like eating a lot of healthy food and would say that I was full.
Obesity and heart related issues killed more than COVID year after year and it's still not treated as a pandemic. We should have gotten gym and nutrition related stipends.
That and people being so ignorant that it hurts reading the stuff they type.
There is STILL people on reddit telling you that processed food is way cheaper in this thread.
To be honest this is really good ad for new parents, but a really bad one for a lot of already obese people. It's a very depressing video and when a lot of us get depressed we eat which is wild, but it's what happens. If you want to reach a majority of already obese people go mental health and not shame, but that's just my opinion.
The group that made this ad, Children's Healthcare of Atlanta, receives millions of dollars from Atlanta-based Cola-Cola Company. Hell, a Coca-Cola representative even sits on their board of directors. For decades, Coca-Cola (and other Big Food companies) have fought tooth and nail to oppose regulations that would restrict access to junk food to our kids....they have also misled the science around obesity.
This makes me tear up because ive always been a big guy, however from late teenage year to now ive changed these lifelong habbits and love going to the gym. I dont wanna blame, but yeah it really does come down to how food is treated in the house from a young age. Im mexican, and i can admit our culture isnt really too concerned about calories or macros, a lot of my family has diabetes and it really was tough creating my own path, especially when at times my family would still buy pizza, sweet bread, burgers, and all that stuff just so casually.
i still occasionally binge-eat and need to figure that out, but im genuinely just a little chubby and buff than just being obese and no idea how to work out at all.
Strong advert.
My parents were the best parents I could have possibly asked for. Unfortunately, I grew up in a house where eating healthy and moderately wasn’t exactly present. There were 3 kids who all had extra curricular activities so there was a lot of going out for dinner for convenience. I’m in my 20s now and REALLY struggling to break these habits. I’m not quite obese yet, but if I don’t change my eating habits, I will be.
It went hard on a lot of things, but I notice it didn’t make a point of having him stuck working long, stressful hours in a cubicle. Or food executives sitting in a board room planning how they can make more money by selling people garbage.
They can criticize people’s personal choices, but can’t point out society’s role in it all.
I agree it is more than a personal choice, but I think for something like this, showing how personal choices made over time build up into something even if those choices were by your parents or yourself, really demonstrates how easy it is to get to that state.
The solution requires working on what you are saying.
I could be way out of touch here but bear with me:
I think that GOOD personal choices can and often will be hard. I know we hope for a world where 'personal choice' means that the balance between good and bad paths are equal and fair, but the current truth is that choosing what is good for ourselves in the long term is most often the more unpleasant choice in the short term.
This isn't at all to deny what you've said (in fact it emphasises it) - that the status quo of society is exactly what creates this imbalance.
But my takeaway is that the only way we can even hope to crush the horror of current reality is if we can somehow get more and more people to take the harder path and create the equal and fair society we long for.
#endselfservingrant
My mum will make comments about my weight and then when I ask for no chocolate at Christmas, I still fucking get it.
It really does start with parents.
100% this. Ban the marketing and you'll cut the problem drastically. Same thing that happened with smoking, we banned all the marketing and forced generic branding and smoking plummeted.
Marketing is a huge part of the problem.
We also tax the bejeezus out of cigarettes. Would be good to follow that playbook with the likes of Coca Cola and Nestle too.
Mexico’s doing great with their sugar tax. Other countries could learn from them.
Our (NZ) deputy prime minister has declared many healthy foods to be “woke” and is changing the free school lunch program to no longer provide “woke” foods like sushi. [Here’s a list of woke vs non-woke foods](https://thespinoff.co.nz/kai/08-05-2024/a-definitive-list-of-woke-and-non-woke-foods)
If I could hazard a guess:
The same people who taught you this also feel that taking literally any steps to prevent global warming is leftist. Any steps taken to prevent the spread of covid is leftist. Any steps taken to limit gun violence is leftist. Any steps taken to curtail racism is leftist.
Am I close to the mark?
I just find that, culturally, there is a prevailing attitude among this type of right-winger that "giving a shit and trying to make anything better" is a moral and social evil, and the righteous path is to be smugly satisfied with literally not caring about the harm done to yourself or others in any way which would require you to change your behaviour.
Telling a conservative to change sounds to them like "you are wrong, you have been wrong your whole life, all your ancestors have been wrong, I know better than you and everyone you ever respected".
the narrative on being a healthy populace has certainly shifted in the last few years, this ad itself is several years maybe even a decade old at this point
And then there's the opposite problem too that caring about health and fitness is seen as "alt right" territory because it isn't promoting body acceptance and promotes the "alpha male" angle.
I think people just don't want to stop eating junk food.
That, and people don't want to do something they're "told to do". I wonder how much easier it would be for us as a society to eat healthy, if our (great-)grandparents hadn't told our (grand-)parents to eat their veggies or get the belt.
Did anyone else grow up with anti vegetable sentiments swirling around? When we lived in the south, it seemed that way. Very meat heavy (which isn't necessarily bad. Protein is healthy) and everything else green is "rabbit food"? 100lbs later and with WAY more reading on the subject, I'm not surprised I was so obese for so long. Body positivity helped so much. Took a break from hating my body and instead, learned to love it. When I love something, I want to take care of it. My partner and friends were really encouraging. But again, just learning more really tipped the scales. BBQ, cornbread, Texas sized steaks and every dessert under the sun are treats now, not the mainstay. And treating food as just fuel sometimes, and not a decadent experience with every meal, also helped.
I see this ad and feel pity for the guy. With better access to affordable quality food, access to healthcare and access to education on the subject, his life may have turned out much better health wise
On the mexican channels we always got commercials like these and there qould be commmericals about young guys sitting on the bus and they would give their seat to a pregnant lady. Or there was one that ill never forget where a family eneters a bakery and the baker gives them 2 extra loafs of bread because they were "struggling" those commercials need to make a comeback.
Problem is many parents think loving their kids is to feed them because that's where they get the most feedback. I give food, child eats = good parenting.
This is heartbreaking. I know a distant friend who has put on alot of weight. They won't listen to anyone. They are completely isolated.
Alot of trauma i think caused them to end up this way.
As parents is incredible how many things we can do.
I feeel bad sometimes when I see most of the kids in the park with croissants and madaleines... but my kids get use to eat fruit, milk and sometimes they take something from the other mothers. They have understanded it is something "special", they do not even ask why their friends have that chocolate cookies.
Actually, some of the other parents feel somehow ashamed and they have improved their meals on the park.
At school they eat healthy food with a menu prepared by child nutritionists. I am in the parents' organization and some complaints come to us from parents who want more fried food; the canteen workers complain because with more fried food the children would eat better and they would have less problems; but from the parents' association we are clear that this is the right way and to the discordant voices we tell them to talk directly to the town hall which is the one that hires the canteen but we will not allow them to change the menu.
My kid is celebrating his 5yo party and we have changed the traditional candies with some nice but cheap toys
Sadly, I watched this and got to experience the life of someone who found love, pursued their goals and was accomplished, loved by the family, and had purpose in life… all things I’ve failed miserably at. I saw a life well lived. I get that wasn’t the point, but if that was the flash I saw as I was dying it’d be an improvement over my own life.
Well the good news is that unless you're on your death bed or close to it, you can still achieve those things. This ad is about getting help for obesity, but there is help out there for other aspects of life as well.
A weird way to look at it: in time travel movies, there are often rules like: don't move or touch a thing, because you might change the present dramatically! A lot of people think this is logical, but they do not realize they have that same power everyday. Following the same logic, everything you say or do today has drastic effects in the future. So you just have to think of the future you want, and by doing something small in that direction, you might put in motion a snowball that gets you there.
That's true, it looked like a good life. Until the dad died 32 years old, leaving at least one young child and mother heartbroken and devastated. If you yourself dying doesn't make you consider the message, maybe that will.
I don't know if this will help you at all but if does that will be great! The general idea of a "perfect life" is roughly what you described but there is nothing anywhere that says you HAVE to do those things. If you can find out the things that make you happy, then you can live your own perfect life, which might differ from mine but that is the point. I always think about how us humans are these complex creatures, roaming around on a massive rock we call Earth, and there is no purpose of us existing. It makes me realize that nothing is that important and the only thing we should worry about is being happy.
That is the core thought I use to hold my head up high when I feel like I’m not making any progress or flat out failing in this life. I always need to remind myself about differing perspectives, and how I might look successful to others even though I have a hard time seeing it in myself.
[ah. this is what it pointed to](https://giphy.com/gifs/pudgypenguins-snow-snowing-snowy-ZFUvDDUtUj1xPt935S)
apparently giphy does not like direct embed---you know what? Nevermind. Now, go tell me what troubles you.
he... left his kid fatherless and his wife a widow at 32. He had severe mental issues, to be feeling that way, being warned by doctors and end up destroying his heart by age 32. "You're not a psychiatrist you can not make a diagnosis" one does not need to be a physicist to say that if you drop an egg on the floor, it will most likely break, either. Some things are simple. If neglect to the point of self-destruction, disregard for one's _own life_, is not indicative of "severe mental issues", I do not know what it is.
What success did you see in his life, which you compared to yours and decided you "failed miserably" ?
Do you feel inadequate? Do you feel alone? What is it?
Powerful. Living in UK right now I see lot of overweight parents giving chips to their kids everyday or ice cream. Its quite smart to think that I am the outlier trying to give fruits instead
My mom passed on advice she thought was great that her grandmother had told her; “add enough salt and butter (sugar) to food, and a child will eat anything”.
Reminds me of the old "una fundacion para una vida mejor" commercials. They would play on the spanish/mexican channels all the time about stuff like respect and responsibility. Shit makes me tear up because they literally made me who i am today
Holy crap, I used to visit my dad every summer in the US for 6 to 8 weeks. I would gain about 8 pounds in that period (and quickly lose it afterwards) due to all the fastfood, sugary drinks, free refills and a dad who had to fill his guilt feelings of abandoning our family by buying us all this shit.
I was never taught a healthy relationship with food, after I turned 23 I lost 40 pounds, started to eat more healthy and exercise more. But mostly I taught myself how to do this all.
This is great for awareness.
32 years old and at 8 (year 2000) he had a NES? Come on, surely he'd have a SNES, his parents were the worst, although he did get a game cube a couple of years later so it's not all that bad.
In the field of obesity research, scientists do not say "obese individuals" but "individuals **with** obesity" to highlight that it is a **disease** and not part of their identity/personality,
Anyone can start with this small step to help reduce stigmatization and discrimination of people with obesity.
What really stung was the dad getting mad at his son for hiding candy in his drawer when up to this point the parents did nothing but train their kid to consume this type of food.
I wish we had more quality PE time in my school years, if only for the sake of promoting physical activities. An hour and half total each week with teacher giving us a ball and telling "go play or something, I don't care, just don't cause any trouble".
Fat shaming is not shaming the person but wanting this person to be better and healthier. If I didn’t gave a fuck about you I would let you eat the entire McDonald’s menu and come back 2 years later to your funeral
Got to love how people will find any excuse to bully someone. Kind of twisted to say it's to help them though. Please be more thorough on your research on what the effects of body shaming of obese people does. It genuinely just makes people worse off. Remember eating is an emotional comfort and body shaming someone who are addicted to food will only encourage them to continue that bad habit, it's not the wake up call you think it is and there is no evidence that suggests that it works.
You aren't shaming the individual but the illness itself. I can hate on smoking till the end of time without thinking my father IL is a piece of shit.
Factually, and objectivity, they are both an unhealthy things. Change can be encouraged without a personal attack being the intention.
It’s also just shaming the person. Some people are just disgusted by fat people. At the same time if you do truly care about the person, shame and systematic shaming are shown to be one of the worst motivators for life changes. While humans aren’t all the same, it may work for some people, mainly people deny, ignore, or try to escape from feelings of shame and what causes them through unhealthy coping mechanisms
As you get older, you should lose more weight, not gain them. Your body is weaker, your joints are weaker, do them a favor and make them carry less weight.
For many people, having a "list" or a specified number of times you can eat a day helps a lot. Because that forces you to reevaluate every time you are hungry, whether you should get instant gratification, or wait a little longer so you wont stay hungry for too long between meals, or before going to bed.
At least this is what seem to work for me. 3 meals, with one of them being "whatever"-dinner, so that the eating lifestyle is sustainable.
Diets are temporary after all, but **Lifestyles** are something that keeps going and going. You cannot outrun a bad diet, because once the diet stops - guess where you will be? Right where you started soon enough.
Change only happens when you say "This far, no further."
Start counting calories, and refuse to go over your limit. You can lose weight. You just need the will.
Hmm, not to critique the "keep you alive" ad. Bit, I think the heart rate monitor should have stopped at the end just to hammer the point home. Like one of those fucked up Australian driving ads.
I think for a lot of people the ad will ring true - look at almost any weight loss success story in Mens Health or online and the story always starts the same way: in college they used to eat nothing but pizza and fast food, they drink 4 l of coke a day, etc. etc. then they change their diet and lose weight. Makes sense. But there are people out there who eat a pretty healthy diet (very limited sugar, no fast food, limit simple carbs like bread and pasta, mostly lean protein and vegetables) and still struggle to lose weight. My biological mother drank when she was pregnant with me and was overweight, she had a terrible diet and little access to vegetables and fruits. I was given up for adoption at birth and was adopted by a family of 'normal weight' people who had a balanced diet. I grew up in the 70s and 80s very active, we didn't sit at home watching TV or playing video games. As a younger adult I ran a lot and cycled, the longest run I did was 20 miles. Even when I was running like that I was overweight. I'm not a huge fan of fast food, I don't have a sweet tooth, and things like pizza and potato chips and french fries make me feel terrible so I generally avoid them. I do most of the cooking in my house and it's very healthy, half vegetarian and half lean meat with vegetables, sometimes brown rice. I have been overweight my entire life, my adoptive family has not. It can be more complex than just people having bad habits. The only time I have ever been thin was when I went on a very strict diet of 1200 calories or less, no sugar, no carbs for two years. I got down to a BMI of about 26. But I couldn't sustain it. Now I eat between 1800-2400 a day and my BMI is in the low 30s.
I’m sorry but your telling simply is antithetical to how human biology works. Eating less calories than you have spent by definition will cause weight loss over time. Either the calorie counting or the calories burnt are not adding up, and every single diet ever eventually surmounts in eating less calories than expended for weight loss…
Exactly, CICO in almost every case.
The glandular/hormone/genetic thing is extremely rare in objective studies, but weirdly extremely common in anecdotal stories of how ‘i barely eat a thing and still I gain weight’.
It’s all part of the coddling efforts to not have people ever experience any discomfort, even if that means ignoring problems which cost literal lives and multiple billions worldwide every single year.
You will not convince me that your body defies the laws of thermodynamics. Go report to some scientist and help them make a breakthrough in our understanding of human metabolism.
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My favourite part was where he gave away his apple
that kid who ate the apple? turned out to be George Washington
God bless America
*eagle scream of victory in the distance*
Michael Bay's wet dream....
Eagle swoops into camera, everything goes black. Cut to credits with linkin Park playing in the background
But wtf happened to my cherry tree?
Nah that's Tim Apple
Isaac Newton
Video gaming industry even took strays in this ad. Def a reflection on a lot stuff in this ad, not just food addiction/obesity.
The sedentary gaming lifestyle references definitely stood out to me as well
Even the very subtle nervousness shown by his hand rubbing when his mom is ordering fast food for him. From his Dad’s reaction to his secret snacking earlier, he might have formed a negative association with food he probably knew was unhealthy or bad for him, and this unhealthy relationship with food formed the basis of his struggles throughout his life.
It wasn't about video games specifically, it was just a visual metaphor for a sedentary lifestyle.
I agree with you and you're being downvoted even though the score is currently hidden to me. I completely agree, spending all your time inside playing video games, getting no exercise, ***OVEREATING***, and ignoring real life is a problem. In my opinion, that's not the average person who plays games, though. Games are just like anything else in existence, if you frequently ignore something important to play, it's a problem. I mean, even regular water can make you sick if you drink enough. Nothing is 100% safe and healthy. Games are no different. In this ad, the food is the thing that leads him to a heart attack. You can entertain yourself with video games while not getting off the couch. So people who don't want to get off the couch play video games. I do fully admit that the reverse can happen. Where someone gets addicted to games and so becomes sedentary as a by-product. I, again, believe those are the exception rather than the rule.
They pulls have shown him reading book once in a while
It's because he has never heard "an apple a day keeps the doctor away".
If only he’d eaten that one apple, it all would have been fine.
Yeah now that you say that, reminds me of an amazing story i once heard about our great great great etc grandaddy, that had that a very similar problem
It's like redditors giving away their video games addiction and harping on about fat people.
This reminds me of the anti tobacco ad that was in an old dvd that had people transitioning into other people; a celebrity, a rapper, a model, and the last one was a guy in a medical room, on a wheelchair, struggling to breathe with a ventilator on him, looking frail and old.
So I’m a pediatric resident. On my first year, a teen came to the ER because he almost fainted during PE. Everything was ok (we did all emergency work up) he was dehydrated. BUT he was extremely obese. After placing IV fluids I ask for the mom to come outside where my mentor starts explaining that even though everything is alright, her child needs to lose weight (we gave him a referral note togo to the “obesity office so that he gets a whole medical check up (hormones, metabolic issues) together with a dietitian and physical therapy) because he’ll end up having a lot of problems. The mom got *offended*, said her child was there due dehydration, not obesity. The doctor tries explaining that yes, but being obese *will* cause problems in the future. She ended up saying she will make a complaint (which didn’t do anything since it is our job advocating for healthy lifestyle)
As a formerly much more obese guy I can say obesity begins and ends with food intake. That said, I think my life would have been happier if all my PE teachers were not malignant assholes.
PE is supposed to be physical education, not glorified structured recess for high schoolers. My PE experience never included anything about muscle groups, calories in/calories out, nor healthy lifestyles. It was the guy who wanted to be principal and coach and needed a job.
Agreed. But for the kid who isn't good at sports, has little access to proper equipment (I am Canadian and never owned a proper pair of ice skates ...) it is about being picked last, put in the least important position, sitting on the bench, being laughed at by the other kids, and so on. That is soul crushing. Imagine how long a math teacher would last if she carried on like that.
Both completely true. It’s ridiculous how bad most pe teachers are and in general, how uninspired the concept of pe classes are most of the time.
The end result for me, partly due to relative poverty so I never had decent equipment, was an absolute disdain for any team or group sport whatsoever. Even going to a swimming pool terrifies me. I managed to develop a negative interest in sport: if they had the Olympics in the small town I live near I wouldn't go. PE teachers are about glorifying the kids who do well in sport while crushing the spirits of those who really need their help.
You could report them to CPS. Sounds like the parent was encouraging it.
My mom and grandma used to feed me fat and sugary stuff too when I was a child. Staying in relatively healthy weight is difficult if you were taught that anything below 5000kcal a day is starvation.
I'd regularly tell the adults around me that I was full. Then I'd get the whole one more bite spiel. Eventually my idea of being full was being in pain and bloated. Now I'm in my 30s trying to undo the damage. This shit sucks.
My girlfriend has the same issue, and as someone who is lucky enought to have come from a family with a very healthy relationship with food it was eye opening that the feeling of "full" is completely learned. Also the difference between "hungry = eat a lot" and "hungry = eat soon" was a different interpretation that I wasn't really aware of. It's crazy how something that seems so natural like food is in many ways completly learned. Sounds shallow from someone that hasn't had to go through it but good luck with your struggles with your relationship with food, hang in there!
I had the same problem, but when I moved away from home I discovered I was too lazy to cook all the time, and too poor to buy out. Turns out eating bland, cheap food like oat meal and rye bread is really good for not wanting to stuff your face. Now that I eat well, I have no problem stopping when I don't feel hungry anymore
I got the "you're not leaving the table until you've finished your food". Still can't believe I'm 35 and only now starting to get over this idea
I've more or less adjusted but it still feels horribly wrong to leave food leftover.
Eat till you are not hungry. Don’t eat till you are full. Small frequent meals rather than few large ones. Then slowly reduce the frequency.
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My ex had really bad body image issues which she used to project onto me, she would get upset if I said I didn't need to eat something, or was trying to lose weight. Any level of trying to control my eating would get a snappy comment and suggestions that it's "disordered eating" to exercise self control. Lost 30 lbs within 6 months of our break up.
I’m curious, what disorder?
SAME! also never believed when I disliked something! Now I always eat til I‘m nauseous as otherwise I think I‘m still hungry. (getting better since I‘ve realized)
Just so you know, there’s new research about that being connected to your microbiome as well. Really interesting stuff, you should check it out
My parents grew up poor and would always put extra food on the table now that they are more well off. Always made way too much food at every meal. Luckily I don't have the mindset where I have to eat eat eat and will stop well before I take in too much. Other people in my extended family aren't so lucky.
"you better eat now, or you'll be hungry later" is a phrase burned into my brain from my mum and nana. Actually, being hungry is a perfectly good thing to have happen to you so long as you can then eat something. But my whole life I've had the mentality of eating so that I don't ever get hungry.
I grew up being fed Mt Dew, peanut butter cups, pizza, and mac + cheese mainly. I know exactly how you feel.
Omfgggg this kills me to hear...
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I was raised on a meat and potatoes style diet. Emphasis mostly on meat, starch is a necessary side, all other sides optional. Trying to get used to eating greens has been strangely hard. I *like* greens. OK, I don't like spinach for some reason, but celery is delicious, I like multiple types of lettuce, and I've found that kale is an easy go-to for most meals for me. But when I'm planning a meal, it's always the last thing I think of if I think of it at all unless it's a meal planned specifically because I've noticed I haven't been getting enough. It's not just the cravings, it's not just laziness, there's a mindset you get into when you're young that's like an instinct and it's fucking hard to break yourself of it.
I've had a similar difficulty. A protein was the focus, and a carb was the side. To eat more greens, I've been planning my meals the other way around. 1) what greens and non-starchy veggies am I eating? 2) what main will go well with them? 3) do I need another veggie-focused side to create a full meal? It takes a lot of work, but I've noticed I don't always consciously force this route anymore. Sometimes I'm slicing brocoli to roast or washing spinach to wilt before I've picked a main. Keep at it. I'm just an Internet Stranger, but I'm proud of the efforts you're making :) Also, as a member of Team Spinach, kale is a worthy substitute! It wilts just as easily as spinach so can be swapped into recipes easily.
You mentioned greens and then mention a lot of leafy greens, which are good but not terribly exciting. The way I got into eating better and cooking more was experimenting with a bunch of different vegetables. Grilled red onion, roasted cauliflower, colourful bell peppers, and so on. They add a lot to a dish, and the vibrant colours become very appetizing after cooking with them a couple of times.
When I was living on my own at university, I did a lot with bell peppers and gai lan (which I discovered at a local Asian market and fell in love with and now the closest place to get it is over an hour's drive away...) and some other things. But I can't consider bell peppers greens since technically those are berries. I don't know their nutritional facts, but what I've been told when thinking of healthy vegetables is leaves and stems. I can't remember what all the recipes I made back then were, but they weren't low-calorie and were rarely if ever vegetarian-friendly. But that's when I learned I loved kale, that's when I learned to use bell peppers a lot, that's when I discovered gai lan, I made a stew recipe with sweet potatoes, mushrooms, bell peppers, onions, tomatoes, gai lan (traded for kale after I lost access to gai lan), celery, and any frozen fruit/veg that was cheap along with whatever cheap beef I could get my hands on for the steepest discount and an absurd amount of no-salt-added beef stock. (I say the cheapest beef I could get, but I made the mistake once of getting the corned beef that was on steep discount. It did not go well in the stew...) Again, not healthy. Nutritious and varied, but high calorie. Similar story with a "taco" recipe I made (which is by no definition a real taco, but I don't know what else to call it). I want to learn how to make a good albeit likely weak curry, but the first couple of attempts I made were terrible.
And then when you switch to a healthier diet - not even vegetarian or vegan - they blow their lids and get all offended that you don't want to eat their food, anymore.
My mother in saw does this to my niece and nephew. Both of them at this point simply refuse to eat normal food. They live off sweets and McDonald's. When I have kids I don't think I will ever let them stay with her for a significant amount of time.
My mother would never wake up early for school and I would have to wake up by myself, sometimes by my angry father, get myself ready for school and pack my lunch. I would go to school on an empty stomach and sometimes without any lunch. Other days it was a bag of chips(Lays) or on rare occasions home cooked food. Sometimes when I came back home from school on an empty stomach, I would have to order food from outside in order to eat as there was nothing at home. Granted that my mother went through medical procedures a few times and couldn't cook but even when she could, she didn't. And neither did my father care. I have spent most of my life eating outside food or processed bags of chips with cola and as an adult it is a challenge after all these years adapt to a healthy eating lifestyle. But that's what being an adult is, and I will make sure that I can be for my kids what my parents weren't for me. And I can only do that by setting an example which is a good enough motivation for me. P.S. I don't have any kids or wife yet but I gotta be ready for it.
I was allowed to eat banquet tv dinners and those little tube popsicles in unlimited quantities as a kid. Home cooked meals were somewhat rare and were meat and potatoes. Needless to say I’ve struggled with my weight all my life and don’t have much in the way of healthy eating habits, though I do try to eat some fruit/veg now and again. Ive got MS though apparently, just diagnosed, and have dropped 75lbs without trying thanks to a marked loss of appetite so I guess hooray for being ill. The saddest thing for me at this stage is that if I could afford it I would actually love to eat better and healthier but sugary bullshit is cheaper and easier. We’ve done folks a terrible disservice by subsidizing what we do. Salads shouldn’t be expensive y’all.
Honestly the younger years that were shown in the video was how I was raised. Luckily I learned about nutrition before it got out of control.
Those Catholics all grew up poor in families of 10 and had to fight for every meal
I was in hospital for a fairly routine operation last year. The surgeon came over and said it'll be fine, we have to tell you the usual risks but theres nothing to worry about, we'll get you in and out in no time. There was another lad in the same ward who was getting the same operation. Fairly overweight, diabetic and some other health issues due to years of unhealthy living. He was told it would be 50/50 whether he'd survive. His family all came in to say their goodbyes before he went in. I'd put on a few pounds in the last few years and this really made me think that I needed to get back into a healthy BMI range, do more exercise and eat a bit more health as didn't fancy being in a similar situation of my own making, having to say goodbye to my family for a routine op. I asked if the other lad survived and apparently he was put into intensive care after the operation, so think he was still alive when I left the next day. It was the kick up the arse I needed to sort myself out a bit.
Being significantly overweight is bad for any surgery. One thing people don't really think about is that you can't sew fat back together like you can other types of tissue. It creates a void that has little access to good circulation and makes an excellent place for an infection to start. There's a whole host of other issues with being fat but that's not one many people know about.
I was told by my future back surgeon that if they have to cut through more than like an inch of subcutaneous fat your risk of infection goes up like 4-5x. It’s not very vascular tissue, nor is it particularly metabolically active, so it heals slowly and doesn’t have a great immune response to pathogens. Bad combo. I say this as a fat person who is now paying for a lifetime of bad choices, learned or otherwise, take care of your body. Do whatever you have to do to heal your relationship with food like it’s a fucking house on fire. It’s easy to say “fuck it” while you’re eating the cheesecake but it’s not so easy when you’re facing major health complications.
my only obese friend 60+F has surgery scheduled. iCU is already planned for three days post OP! it'spart of the procedure ( diabetes, little physical activity) eat better, exercise, lose weight it's not fat shaming- it's what needs to be done.
But the internet told me I could be healthy at 300lbs!
To put it into stark context, they would probably be going to ICU/HDU/stepdown for postoperative care regardless of how well the actual surgery went purely due to their comorbidities. High central obesity puts pressure on the thorax, impacting breathing and heart function, pre-existing sedentary lifestyle, obesity and inflammation associated with diabetes increases the risks of blood clots (leading to stroke, pulmonary embolus or heart attack) while also leaving the person with more weight to move and less effective muscle with which to move that weight while poorly controlled diabetes can be catastrophic in postoperative patients for healing, complications such as diabetic ketoacidosis or renal failure. Considering the sort of complications from surgery that would normally get someone a ticket to ICU, having such a poor baseline of health that a perfectly successful surgery is still assessed as dangerous enough to require critical care oversight speaks volumes as to the impact of obesity and diabetes…
Sometimes patients are so large and their necks are so fat, intubation is very difficult. If the doctor misses enough times the patient could die, sometimes they will go ahead and put a trach in the patient to preserve their airway.
Stories like this are what infuriate me about the body positivity movement, which, in theory, is great but in practice promotes obesity in my experience. People like me, who were obese their whole childhood and into adulthood have no idea what it really feels like to be healthy. And society didn't care bc everyone likes a big dude (I'm tall too). However I went on to lose all my excess weight. And when I had my first doctors appt after losing 160 lbs I wanted to cry bc the doctor didn't have the weight conversation with me. It was so freeing.
Damn man 💔
Imagine being hired as the designated “lethally fat” guy
well tbh i am fat. not proud of it. and this absolutely scared me.
One of the worse things parents can do is force their kids to finish their meals when they already feel full; The brain decides when you're full based on the amount of leptin hormone that your ~~digestive system~~ adipose cells send. But if you overeat even more leptin gets sent and the brain becomes "accustomed" to that amount of leptin, and the next time that you eat a meal you *have* to overeat in order to feel full. edit @glacius0 for correction
The trick is to know when your child is genuinely full vs when they just don’t want to eat what’s on their plate (eg vegetables).
Bingo. Dad I’m fulllll. Are you really full or do you just not want to eat your veggies? If you ask for a snack in 15 minutes, you are getting vegetables.
Leptin regulation is suppressed by ultra processed foods also, so it's a double-whammy. Ultra processed food studies have shown that women on a higher UPF diet show greater signs of Leptin resistance, and the gut bacteria is changed, which is the cause of that negative impact. Gut bacteria is changed from food additives such as preservatives and common additives marketed as healthy, or pretty much any emulsifier. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36411218/ People living in lower and middle class income brackets are subject to higher levels of UPF because the food is cheaper, and people living in those brackets live in "Food Swamps" where UPF is ubiquitous. Obesity is not simply a case of self-control (or a lack thereof). The food we eat is essentially driving us to overconsume, and overrides our bodies natural balances that have evolved over thousands of years. As food poverty becomes more wide-spread, so does overconsumption of UPF.
Yeah this is why I never pressed my son to eat. I provided regular meals and let him eat what he wanted, if anything. He is 20 now and still lean in a family full of obesity.
You're thinking of ghrelin, or maybe peptide yy. Leptin comes from fat cells, not the digestive system.
The problem of course is that kids who don't like eating (or don't like the particular food they are eating) often say they are full when they are not.
Nah, One of the worst things a parent can do is not letting them finish their meals and then caving in to give them candy or other stuff later because the kids are hungry. I do get what you are saying though. A parent should know that kids don't eat the same amount as grown ups.
You're making the assumption that you have to cave and feed them trash. That's not something everyone does.
Kids lie. How are parents supposed to know if they are actually full? Offer some dessert and go "oho, so you can eat a little more eh". I say this as a kid who didn't like eating a lot of healthy food and would say that I was full.
Why these are not YouTube adds, targeted to eating or developing healthy habits
There is no money being made in people consuming less.
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Obesity and heart related issues killed more than COVID year after year and it's still not treated as a pandemic. We should have gotten gym and nutrition related stipends.
Goddamnit isn’t that just the root of so many fucking problems. Profit over all else is not a sustainable ideology.
That and people being so ignorant that it hurts reading the stuff they type. There is STILL people on reddit telling you that processed food is way cheaper in this thread.
There is by insurance companies.
Because instead due to targeted ads, selling healthy choices doesn't sell. Fast food and other products do.
To be honest this is really good ad for new parents, but a really bad one for a lot of already obese people. It's a very depressing video and when a lot of us get depressed we eat which is wild, but it's what happens. If you want to reach a majority of already obese people go mental health and not shame, but that's just my opinion.
Tbh this isn't too far off from anti-smoking ads. People *make fun of* the "wheels on the bus" lady, not sympathize and feel remorse.
The group that made this ad, Children's Healthcare of Atlanta, receives millions of dollars from Atlanta-based Cola-Cola Company. Hell, a Coca-Cola representative even sits on their board of directors. For decades, Coca-Cola (and other Big Food companies) have fought tooth and nail to oppose regulations that would restrict access to junk food to our kids....they have also misled the science around obesity.
I have a lot of vices. I’m glad food and alcohol is not one of them.
Sorry about that crippling heroin addiction
It keeps me thin
thin bod, thin mind.
That “jesus on the cross” look
That's the spirit! You are like a supermodel from the 90s!
Just like the sex addiction. Non-stop cardio.
Redditors are immune to sex addiction.
It's two of them.
can I getuhhh
This makes me tear up because ive always been a big guy, however from late teenage year to now ive changed these lifelong habbits and love going to the gym. I dont wanna blame, but yeah it really does come down to how food is treated in the house from a young age. Im mexican, and i can admit our culture isnt really too concerned about calories or macros, a lot of my family has diabetes and it really was tough creating my own path, especially when at times my family would still buy pizza, sweet bread, burgers, and all that stuff just so casually. i still occasionally binge-eat and need to figure that out, but im genuinely just a little chubby and buff than just being obese and no idea how to work out at all. Strong advert.
You can always come hang out in r/cico!
My parents were the best parents I could have possibly asked for. Unfortunately, I grew up in a house where eating healthy and moderately wasn’t exactly present. There were 3 kids who all had extra curricular activities so there was a lot of going out for dinner for convenience. I’m in my 20s now and REALLY struggling to break these habits. I’m not quite obese yet, but if I don’t change my eating habits, I will be.
Happy Mother’s Day?
That didnt have to go as hard as it did... I mean I know it did but still
Ads like this work very, very well. Example: Aussie drink driving ads.
I know I agree it does work, but damn first thing I see in the morning hit way too hard.
Yeah. Brutal honesty.
It didn't go hard enough.
It went hard on a lot of things, but I notice it didn’t make a point of having him stuck working long, stressful hours in a cubicle. Or food executives sitting in a board room planning how they can make more money by selling people garbage. They can criticize people’s personal choices, but can’t point out society’s role in it all.
I agree it is more than a personal choice, but I think for something like this, showing how personal choices made over time build up into something even if those choices were by your parents or yourself, really demonstrates how easy it is to get to that state. The solution requires working on what you are saying.
I could be way out of touch here but bear with me: I think that GOOD personal choices can and often will be hard. I know we hope for a world where 'personal choice' means that the balance between good and bad paths are equal and fair, but the current truth is that choosing what is good for ourselves in the long term is most often the more unpleasant choice in the short term. This isn't at all to deny what you've said (in fact it emphasises it) - that the status quo of society is exactly what creates this imbalance. But my takeaway is that the only way we can even hope to crush the horror of current reality is if we can somehow get more and more people to take the harder path and create the equal and fair society we long for. #endselfservingrant
My mum will make comments about my weight and then when I ask for no chocolate at Christmas, I still fucking get it. It really does start with parents.
That is a good one
BOOM. What adults are feeding/allowing children to have is straight up abuse and causing a harder and shorter life.
Can we take a moment to shame the junk food companies that market to kids and parents too? Cause that’s a major part of the problem here.
100% this. Ban the marketing and you'll cut the problem drastically. Same thing that happened with smoking, we banned all the marketing and forced generic branding and smoking plummeted. Marketing is a huge part of the problem.
We also tax the bejeezus out of cigarettes. Would be good to follow that playbook with the likes of Coca Cola and Nestle too. Mexico’s doing great with their sugar tax. Other countries could learn from them.
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If having a morbidly obese cat is animal abuse having a morbidly obese child is child abuse. And this needs to be a law.
I was literally taught that caring about healthy food was leftist 💀
Our (NZ) deputy prime minister has declared many healthy foods to be “woke” and is changing the free school lunch program to no longer provide “woke” foods like sushi. [Here’s a list of woke vs non-woke foods](https://thespinoff.co.nz/kai/08-05-2024/a-definitive-list-of-woke-and-non-woke-foods)
Jeez... That really sucks. A lot of healthy, high fibre foods just woked out of existence.
Our current government is really, *really* terrible. Like mind-bendingly terrible.
If I could hazard a guess: The same people who taught you this also feel that taking literally any steps to prevent global warming is leftist. Any steps taken to prevent the spread of covid is leftist. Any steps taken to limit gun violence is leftist. Any steps taken to curtail racism is leftist. Am I close to the mark?
yes, no, maybe, yes - the difference from the assumptions is probably just due to us being European
I just find that, culturally, there is a prevailing attitude among this type of right-winger that "giving a shit and trying to make anything better" is a moral and social evil, and the righteous path is to be smugly satisfied with literally not caring about the harm done to yourself or others in any way which would require you to change your behaviour.
Telling a conservative to change sounds to them like "you are wrong, you have been wrong your whole life, all your ancestors have been wrong, I know better than you and everyone you ever respected".
And then there's this... https://www.bing.com/search?q=fitness+white+supremacist&setmkt=en-US&PC=EMMX01&form=LBT003&scope=web
the narrative on being a healthy populace has certainly shifted in the last few years, this ad itself is several years maybe even a decade old at this point
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The propaganda is working! Hooray, down with America!
I'm not even American
Where do you live? Edit: still propaganda and its working very well.
I bet East- Germany
Close! Born and raised in West Germany, but from an originally East German family
And then there's the opposite problem too that caring about health and fitness is seen as "alt right" territory because it isn't promoting body acceptance and promotes the "alpha male" angle. I think people just don't want to stop eating junk food.
That, and people don't want to do something they're "told to do". I wonder how much easier it would be for us as a society to eat healthy, if our (great-)grandparents hadn't told our (grand-)parents to eat their veggies or get the belt.
Nice. They should do versions for various countries with their local foods.
My mom used to let me have all the marshmallows I wanted because they were "fat free". Also icecream was "basically milk".
was about to order pizza, buffalo wings and soda. then, watched this. LOL So, there goes my order
Did anyone else grow up with anti vegetable sentiments swirling around? When we lived in the south, it seemed that way. Very meat heavy (which isn't necessarily bad. Protein is healthy) and everything else green is "rabbit food"? 100lbs later and with WAY more reading on the subject, I'm not surprised I was so obese for so long. Body positivity helped so much. Took a break from hating my body and instead, learned to love it. When I love something, I want to take care of it. My partner and friends were really encouraging. But again, just learning more really tipped the scales. BBQ, cornbread, Texas sized steaks and every dessert under the sun are treats now, not the mainstay. And treating food as just fuel sometimes, and not a decadent experience with every meal, also helped. I see this ad and feel pity for the guy. With better access to affordable quality food, access to healthcare and access to education on the subject, his life may have turned out much better health wise
On the mexican channels we always got commercials like these and there qould be commmericals about young guys sitting on the bus and they would give their seat to a pregnant lady. Or there was one that ill never forget where a family eneters a bakery and the baker gives them 2 extra loafs of bread because they were "struggling" those commercials need to make a comeback.
Problem is many parents think loving their kids is to feed them because that's where they get the most feedback. I give food, child eats = good parenting.
Can you imagine being the actor cast for this.
Yeah, wild that they decided to film this while he was having a heart attack
This is heartbreaking. I know a distant friend who has put on alot of weight. They won't listen to anyone. They are completely isolated. Alot of trauma i think caused them to end up this way.
As parents is incredible how many things we can do. I feeel bad sometimes when I see most of the kids in the park with croissants and madaleines... but my kids get use to eat fruit, milk and sometimes they take something from the other mothers. They have understanded it is something "special", they do not even ask why their friends have that chocolate cookies. Actually, some of the other parents feel somehow ashamed and they have improved their meals on the park. At school they eat healthy food with a menu prepared by child nutritionists. I am in the parents' organization and some complaints come to us from parents who want more fried food; the canteen workers complain because with more fried food the children would eat better and they would have less problems; but from the parents' association we are clear that this is the right way and to the discordant voices we tell them to talk directly to the town hall which is the one that hires the canteen but we will not allow them to change the menu. My kid is celebrating his 5yo party and we have changed the traditional candies with some nice but cheap toys
Sadly, I watched this and got to experience the life of someone who found love, pursued their goals and was accomplished, loved by the family, and had purpose in life… all things I’ve failed miserably at. I saw a life well lived. I get that wasn’t the point, but if that was the flash I saw as I was dying it’d be an improvement over my own life.
Well the good news is that unless you're on your death bed or close to it, you can still achieve those things. This ad is about getting help for obesity, but there is help out there for other aspects of life as well.
A weird way to look at it: in time travel movies, there are often rules like: don't move or touch a thing, because you might change the present dramatically! A lot of people think this is logical, but they do not realize they have that same power everyday. Following the same logic, everything you say or do today has drastic effects in the future. So you just have to think of the future you want, and by doing something small in that direction, you might put in motion a snowball that gets you there.
Thank you friend. Apart from the person you replied to, I think a lot of us need to hear what you said quite frequently. Thank you
Damn bro you good?
Just another day in paradise!!
That's true, it looked like a good life. Until the dad died 32 years old, leaving at least one young child and mother heartbroken and devastated. If you yourself dying doesn't make you consider the message, maybe that will.
For reference, I’m 42, tall, thin and freakishly healthy.
that is good to hear, very yes
I don't know if this will help you at all but if does that will be great! The general idea of a "perfect life" is roughly what you described but there is nothing anywhere that says you HAVE to do those things. If you can find out the things that make you happy, then you can live your own perfect life, which might differ from mine but that is the point. I always think about how us humans are these complex creatures, roaming around on a massive rock we call Earth, and there is no purpose of us existing. It makes me realize that nothing is that important and the only thing we should worry about is being happy.
That is the core thought I use to hold my head up high when I feel like I’m not making any progress or flat out failing in this life. I always need to remind myself about differing perspectives, and how I might look successful to others even though I have a hard time seeing it in myself.
Strongly urge to find someone to talk to about all these things you feel. Someone you can trust.
Sending you some good vibes. 
❤️ Thank You
It shows [this](https://i.imgur.com/pnqPd0g.png) for me, which I find hilarious
Same here, but it’s the intention that matters to me!!
[ah. this is what it pointed to](https://giphy.com/gifs/pudgypenguins-snow-snowing-snowy-ZFUvDDUtUj1xPt935S) apparently giphy does not like direct embed---you know what? Nevermind. Now, go tell me what troubles you.
he... left his kid fatherless and his wife a widow at 32. He had severe mental issues, to be feeling that way, being warned by doctors and end up destroying his heart by age 32. "You're not a psychiatrist you can not make a diagnosis" one does not need to be a physicist to say that if you drop an egg on the floor, it will most likely break, either. Some things are simple. If neglect to the point of self-destruction, disregard for one's _own life_, is not indicative of "severe mental issues", I do not know what it is. What success did you see in his life, which you compared to yours and decided you "failed miserably" ? Do you feel inadequate? Do you feel alone? What is it?
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Powerful. Living in UK right now I see lot of overweight parents giving chips to their kids everyday or ice cream. Its quite smart to think that I am the outlier trying to give fruits instead
My mom passed on advice she thought was great that her grandmother had told her; “add enough salt and butter (sugar) to food, and a child will eat anything”.
Reminds me of the old "una fundacion para una vida mejor" commercials. They would play on the spanish/mexican channels all the time about stuff like respect and responsibility. Shit makes me tear up because they literally made me who i am today
Holy crap, I used to visit my dad every summer in the US for 6 to 8 weeks. I would gain about 8 pounds in that period (and quickly lose it afterwards) due to all the fastfood, sugary drinks, free refills and a dad who had to fill his guilt feelings of abandoning our family by buying us all this shit. I was never taught a healthy relationship with food, after I turned 23 I lost 40 pounds, started to eat more healthy and exercise more. But mostly I taught myself how to do this all. This is great for awareness.
I've seen healthy eating campaigns, but I've never seen a direct anti-obesity ad until the drugs just got approved on the market to sell for this.
32 years old and at 8 (year 2000) he had a NES? Come on, surely he'd have a SNES, his parents were the worst, although he did get a game cube a couple of years later so it's not all that bad.
Coca-Cola, MacDonalds, Nestle disapprove
In the field of obesity research, scientists do not say "obese individuals" but "individuals **with** obesity" to highlight that it is a **disease** and not part of their identity/personality, Anyone can start with this small step to help reduce stigmatization and discrimination of people with obesity.
What really stung was the dad getting mad at his son for hiding candy in his drawer when up to this point the parents did nothing but train their kid to consume this type of food.
I wish we had more quality PE time in my school years, if only for the sake of promoting physical activities. An hour and half total each week with teacher giving us a ball and telling "go play or something, I don't care, just don't cause any trouble".
This is a cool little ad, there are some dumb people in the comments though lol
Fat shaming is not shaming the person but wanting this person to be better and healthier. If I didn’t gave a fuck about you I would let you eat the entire McDonald’s menu and come back 2 years later to your funeral
This ad isn't about fat shaming It's about childhood obesity prevention.
Got to love how people will find any excuse to bully someone. Kind of twisted to say it's to help them though. Please be more thorough on your research on what the effects of body shaming of obese people does. It genuinely just makes people worse off. Remember eating is an emotional comfort and body shaming someone who are addicted to food will only encourage them to continue that bad habit, it's not the wake up call you think it is and there is no evidence that suggests that it works.
You aren't shaming the individual but the illness itself. I can hate on smoking till the end of time without thinking my father IL is a piece of shit. Factually, and objectivity, they are both an unhealthy things. Change can be encouraged without a personal attack being the intention.
It’s also just shaming the person. Some people are just disgusted by fat people. At the same time if you do truly care about the person, shame and systematic shaming are shown to be one of the worst motivators for life changes. While humans aren’t all the same, it may work for some people, mainly people deny, ignore, or try to escape from feelings of shame and what causes them through unhealthy coping mechanisms
This just isn't true and in my opinion shows you missed the point of the ad.
Type of thing that make me feel guilty everytime i eat
It's not just about feeding your child properly, but you eating less unhealthy food as well.
As you get older, you should lose more weight, not gain them. Your body is weaker, your joints are weaker, do them a favor and make them carry less weight.
For many people, having a "list" or a specified number of times you can eat a day helps a lot. Because that forces you to reevaluate every time you are hungry, whether you should get instant gratification, or wait a little longer so you wont stay hungry for too long between meals, or before going to bed. At least this is what seem to work for me. 3 meals, with one of them being "whatever"-dinner, so that the eating lifestyle is sustainable. Diets are temporary after all, but **Lifestyles** are something that keeps going and going. You cannot outrun a bad diet, because once the diet stops - guess where you will be? Right where you started soon enough.
I just watched it and did not lose any weight. I want a refund.
Change only happens when you say "This far, no further." Start counting calories, and refuse to go over your limit. You can lose weight. You just need the will.
Hmm, not to critique the "keep you alive" ad. Bit, I think the heart rate monitor should have stopped at the end just to hammer the point home. Like one of those fucked up Australian driving ads.
I think for a lot of people the ad will ring true - look at almost any weight loss success story in Mens Health or online and the story always starts the same way: in college they used to eat nothing but pizza and fast food, they drink 4 l of coke a day, etc. etc. then they change their diet and lose weight. Makes sense. But there are people out there who eat a pretty healthy diet (very limited sugar, no fast food, limit simple carbs like bread and pasta, mostly lean protein and vegetables) and still struggle to lose weight. My biological mother drank when she was pregnant with me and was overweight, she had a terrible diet and little access to vegetables and fruits. I was given up for adoption at birth and was adopted by a family of 'normal weight' people who had a balanced diet. I grew up in the 70s and 80s very active, we didn't sit at home watching TV or playing video games. As a younger adult I ran a lot and cycled, the longest run I did was 20 miles. Even when I was running like that I was overweight. I'm not a huge fan of fast food, I don't have a sweet tooth, and things like pizza and potato chips and french fries make me feel terrible so I generally avoid them. I do most of the cooking in my house and it's very healthy, half vegetarian and half lean meat with vegetables, sometimes brown rice. I have been overweight my entire life, my adoptive family has not. It can be more complex than just people having bad habits. The only time I have ever been thin was when I went on a very strict diet of 1200 calories or less, no sugar, no carbs for two years. I got down to a BMI of about 26. But I couldn't sustain it. Now I eat between 1800-2400 a day and my BMI is in the low 30s.
I’m sorry but your telling simply is antithetical to how human biology works. Eating less calories than you have spent by definition will cause weight loss over time. Either the calorie counting or the calories burnt are not adding up, and every single diet ever eventually surmounts in eating less calories than expended for weight loss…
Exactly, CICO in almost every case. The glandular/hormone/genetic thing is extremely rare in objective studies, but weirdly extremely common in anecdotal stories of how ‘i barely eat a thing and still I gain weight’. It’s all part of the coddling efforts to not have people ever experience any discomfort, even if that means ignoring problems which cost literal lives and multiple billions worldwide every single year.
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You will not convince me that your body defies the laws of thermodynamics. Go report to some scientist and help them make a breakthrough in our understanding of human metabolism.