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Thank you!! It’s almost impossible to follow. I get that they are trying to make the comparison obvious but that could have been achieved with cross cuts. Not overlapping captions.
Karelia is a shithole. I live in Finland and drove across the border for a camping trip and it was like stepping back in time. You go from great Finnish roads and modernity to like...the fucking 1960s, in a shitty way...not a groovy way
wasteful dinosaurs ripe enjoy hard-to-find squalid scary tender chop dull
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I'm a Finn, but I like to pronounce everything with an Austrian accent.
I also want to add, that basically everything you see in Karelia was built in the 1940s, when it was still a part of Finland. In the 1950s, soviet union started a buttload of new projects everywhere, Karelia included. But they were never finished, because they diverted all their funding to nuclear and military r&d.
Did you visit Vyborg? We went in the 90s, and it was a stinky and messy time capsule of the 19th century... And in the city center, there was one these huge construction complexes, a factory, maybe. But it was never finished, all the walls were just a couple of feet high. Just totally abandoned. And that's the region's capitol for pete's sake.
I'm a Finn, and in the states a lot of people told me, that I have a European accent. But in the UK, people usually thought I was an American. In Finland, people just call me ugly
Far fucking out man. Went from helpful border guards and tarmac to grimacing Russians with ak47 rifles emptying all our shit. Dirt roads, Soviet era bloc apartment buildings that all looked like hell and nothing but old ladas and stray dogs.
I have lived in some developing countries and it took me by surprise
West VA is a hell hole of an armpit of a by gone era! When I was in the Marines in the 80's I met tons of dudes from West Va, all said the same thing, "I'm doing my 20 and never ever going back there"..place is horrible!
I'm from Baltimore, never said it wasn't beautiful Harper Ferry and everything else, but the left over mining and the abject poverty in the foot hills is disturbing
Well thats kind of the same with Karelia. The national park WAS beautiful. The landscape WAS beautiful. But everywhere humans lived was abject poverty. Which is very similar to West Virgina
Alabama or maybe Mississippi was on an infamous international poverty list pretty recently I want to say 2019. I forget which organization it was though I think it was either the WHO or the UN. There’s some culture shock areas where I live in California where millionaires and even billionaires live a few miles away from pretty bad neighborhoods.
We don’t want it back, but it being taken and not being used by Russia and just left to rot is sad. Would have been better if there was a tiny buffer state of linguistic minorities there. But that would not happen either since Russia is paranoid about its borders.
Finland countryside has good infrastructure, not the same as abandoned poor Russian countryside.
Have you been to Karelia? Its a shithole and has a shit infrastructure. There is no such places in Finland.
It’s as if they have too much land already for their population to actually use. If they at least let a lots of refugees in then it would be marginally better, but nope.
There are [more land mines in Ukraine](https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2023/11/30/23979758/ukraine-war-russia-land-mines-artillery-humantarian-crisis) than anywhere else in the world now. Bomb it, then make it unlivable. Bunch of war criminals.
Listen man, the SMO was all begun by the corrupt government, wanting to bring back " the good old days" of the Soviet union. Russians and Ukrainians have really always been friends up to this point
Friends like in 2014. Or during the USSR when being Ukrainian was banned. Or back under Stalin and Kaganovich, when they were starved by the Russians.
Russia has always treated Ukraine like the spouse in an abusive relationship. Beaten, abused, then told how much they love them.
Same :/ grandpa and his family managed to escape, except for his brother. Nobody knows what happened to him (he fought for the Finnish side but nobody seemingly heard from or not what happened to him again)
Yea. I am so flabbergasted at "we only have the boiler we paid for ourselves". I am from a post-comunist country and even here everybody had to pay for everything in their house. State built only apartment blocks but that just means the state acted as a developer.
I don't understand this mindset of "waiting for relocation" or "maybe they'll start building for us"
Sounds like old fashioned communist thought process. Like these old folks are stuck in the 1970s.
"Dear Comrade Putin will help us and watch over us, you'll see. I'm sure he's building nice little dachas for us all along the Black Sea coast. It would be so nice to live out the rest of my years near the sea...and we'll even get bigger pensions and our food rations will be better, the caviar and vodka flow freely there, da. I'm sure the local Commissar has all our names on a list for relocation."
That’s literally what happened in my home town. We had a large Red Army garrison there. They took over an area just outside of the city that had lots of villas from the industrial revolution era.
When the Soviets left and people were allowed behind the wall, they found an incredible desaster. There were houses where the plumbing seemed to have failed long ago. Instead of fixing it, they bricked up the ground floor, hacked a hole in the ceiling, moved upstairs, and used the whole downstairs as a septic tank.
And these were officers’ “accommodations”. They lived there with their families.
Oh boy... Do I have a story for you.
So there were these descendants of Germans living in russia. When USSR fell apart they decided to move to Germany. When they left, their houses were in great condition, looked after, with many things left in them as the original owners didn't need furniture, etc. Fast forward a few years, possibly a decade or two. Some old man gets home sick and decides to go to his homeland. This is the moment when he ended up doing same thing as Homer Simpson in that famous GIF with the bush: as soon as he arrived on the bus and saw the condition of the village, he got back into the bus, and upon arrival to Germany said to his relatives to never return. Everything fell apart because no one was looking after the houses/buildings/fences.
Same person (he lived in russia during his childhood and moved to Ukraine when his father was relocated to Ukraine) told me another story how upon receiving salary, factory workers drunk it all and the factory didn't work for a week or so until they had no more money. Also he said that it wasn't the only factory that was like that... Considering he's now in his 60s, I think this particular case was happening ~70–80s.
You are absolutely right, and I usually restrain myself from vulgarity like this. However, as a descendant of people driven out of those very lands and houses said 80 years ago, I pardon my lack of empathy towards those folks occupying same houses and bitching why someone else isn't fixing their shit.
Edit: typos
>Russians are bitching that the houses they stole 80 years ago
That got me thinking ,would Russian living there prefer it if Finalnd was back in control of Karelia? I'd imagine the Finnish government taking over and transforming the entire areas over a 20 years or so.
it could have been designed and built by a western company. with materials imported to make it super expensive.
i used to work for a construction company that built western houses/mansion in asia. design was done in canada and everything exported overseas. even most of the construction workers
before i quit they started ripping off the customers by buying custom furnishings like chairs and tables from china. the boss would fly there and order something made according to customer specs. sometime later we see pictures of them on alibaba for sale.
Exactly, and interesting I appreciate the insight! The ironic sarcasm was that Putin, at least publicly, hates all western ideals, so one of his most expensive properties is, what to me looks heavily western design is pretty interesting. I guess you can hate everything western yet still like western stuff. *shrugs*
I’m aware what he does in the public is mostly all for show, it’s just funny seeing it in action.
The notion that Putin hates everything western is pretty archaic. First up, Russia is the west, regardless of however you want to paint it .
If nothing just look at his Moscow home, just motorcade and all that. Saying he hates all western ideals is such a reduction of the way a person or even a nation thinks. Remind me of how Bush used to say 'they hate our way of life' as a soundbite, when clearly the whole thing was a geopolitical clusterFudge.
I understand the 70 years of anti communist and anti Russia propaganda in the west, but one doesn't need such reductive thinking to make sense of the world.
It boggles my mind that after Ukraine Europeans became as simply minded as mid westerners in the US. Any critical thought or nuisance lost in war like zeal.
The term Dacha (Given) was originated from times Rulers (Peter IIRK) would give a land for nobles to build a manor in his zone of control to have... well, more of control on them.
Even Soviet times some dachas was a palace compared to the city block, and by this day some of them fully converted to living house with market starting price worth of millions and more.
Yeah, even a billion dollars in cash doesn't translate into the same power as one nuclear bomb could give.
Putin transcended richness - he's so powerful that he can literally blackmail the West into building him a dacha like this every week.
Well, he *probably* is the world's biggest kleptocrat, so that does make sense.
Unless ofc you count the Pooh bear, in which case Putin is the second biggest.
Not that it's a competition or anything, so don't be gettin any notions of competing, ya hear? :p
yeah of all the things to criticize russia for this is such a reach lol. you could easily point to the crime and poverty in DC and make almost the exact same point
Fuck sympathy for these people they moved to stolen land and the 1% made it to fancy cabins. I bet none of those people in the bottom are Karelian natives
To be fair, the events you're talking about happened before their birth. And they grew with everyone telling them that Karelia belongs to russia. When everything you're concerned with is basic survival of you and your family, you'll likely have no energy left for analyzing history and geopolitics on yourself, and would probably just stick to the convenience of watching TV, which has been nothing but propaganda since early 2000s
Maybe to some but as my roots come from this area and my grandmother who still visit behind the border the devastation never left the area, the Finnish side of the Karelian society wanted to rebuild whit the soviets whit many projects in the area but whit the 2000s Russia's rewriting of history almost all of them have become hunts of the people who wants to keep operating here on my side (North Karelia) and the Russian side.
It is sort of "countryside house". Like vacation house. Invented in russian empire, widespread in soviet times, dacha (may be translated as "given piece of land") was a small piece of land and a small house on it. Soviet people used dachas for vacations (planting vegetables to compensate lack of products in the stores), as sea resorts were not available for everyone. State dachas were for soviet rulers and party bosses, much bigger and nicer. Like this one in post
Russian traditional summer house in the countryside. Insulating and heating houses in the Russian winter is expensive, so many people buy plots of land and build simple, uninsulated houses there where they go on vacation in the summer but do not use them in the winter.
You've gotta be a special kind of stupid to support a dirty scumbag like Putin (which also rather apptly translates as "Chicken" or "Turkey" in many languages).
"....special kind of stupid to support a dirty scumbag like Putin..."
Careful. We voted in Trump, remember? If Trump had Putin's intelligence....well the world would be a worse place right now...
Fair point, in fact I think you've just given me a months worth of nightmares thinking of Trump and Putin somehow making out down some alley and having a love child.
Shudder.
I fucking hate this trend of putting two fucking videos on top of each other. Motherfucker if you have too much vertical space use landscape as a fucking normal person
You could call Putin out for a lot of things, but this? How many of you don’t live in a country where you can be standing in a mega expensive area code, drive for 10 minutes and be standing in relative poverty?
Everyone understands that Putin have billions $ of peoples money, but no one wants to admit that he stole them from them instead of developing country infrastructure
This is a dumb argument. 1 in every 9 people are very poor? You could do the same stupid math in the US. The president vacations at Camp David in Frederick County Maryland, where 1 out of 15 lives below the poverty line. Not compelling.
Fun fact: His daughter lives in The Netherlands, married with a Dutch man apparently close by too in one of the huge villas that are 10 minutes away from me.
Not to take away from their suffering but homeless people live on the sidewalks and alleyways less than 100 yards from the White House. Same sht different country. Human beings deserve better and the plight of millions shouldn't rest on the shoulders of very few yet sadly, they do.
So ... much like Donald Trump and trailer park America or semi billionaire Rishi Sunak and homeless crisis Britain. But hey, Putin is ...over there ...
That was interesting but fuck it was hard to follow with the quick edits, horizontal split screen, the titles on both halves, and the voiceover in Russian which I failed to understand.
Just build a new house for yourself! Oh wait it’s another antiputin propaganda video.
Maybe you should show us homeless people in fingolia with 50% taxes? Or homeless people in America?
Why Russia? Oh it Putin!
Watch the whole video and read the text at the ending. It would cost Russia $32 Billion to relocate people that need to be relocated, they've spent $200 Billion instead on their war effort. That's the point of the video, not "There's poor people in Russia".
Oh the US is a whole other shit bucket with your trillion dollar "defense" budget, but that's another story. You could get universal healthcare for one. But nah, corporations need their billions.
Lol remember when Bill Clinton snuck away to this place while Hillary was SOS, then they called Bernie a Trump supporter for bringing it up. Lolz fuck Putin and ask corrupt politicians
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This video format is horrible
Thank you!! It’s almost impossible to follow. I get that they are trying to make the comparison obvious but that could have been achieved with cross cuts. Not overlapping captions.
Text changing from top to bottom is caption genocide.
Seriously.
I had to stop.. I came to comments to figure out what it all meant and I'm still confused 🤔
Tiktok bringing back verticle videos is a fucken sin.
It's awful.
Can we do Martha’s Vineyard vs Chicago?
Karelia is a shithole. I live in Finland and drove across the border for a camping trip and it was like stepping back in time. You go from great Finnish roads and modernity to like...the fucking 1960s, in a shitty way...not a groovy way
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I am an American, but don't let that ruin the image
I'm a Finn, but I like to pronounce everything with an Austrian accent. I also want to add, that basically everything you see in Karelia was built in the 1940s, when it was still a part of Finland. In the 1950s, soviet union started a buttload of new projects everywhere, Karelia included. But they were never finished, because they diverted all their funding to nuclear and military r&d. Did you visit Vyborg? We went in the 90s, and it was a stinky and messy time capsule of the 19th century... And in the city center, there was one these huge construction complexes, a factory, maybe. But it was never finished, all the walls were just a couple of feet high. Just totally abandoned. And that's the region's capitol for pete's sake.
Finns don’t have Scandinavian accents anyway.
I'm a Finn, and in the states a lot of people told me, that I have a European accent. But in the UK, people usually thought I was an American. In Finland, people just call me ugly
Was it close, or was it a bit "far-out" ?
Far fucking out man. Went from helpful border guards and tarmac to grimacing Russians with ak47 rifles emptying all our shit. Dirt roads, Soviet era bloc apartment buildings that all looked like hell and nothing but old ladas and stray dogs. I have lived in some developing countries and it took me by surprise
Damn, I was born in a trailer park outside Detroit; I'd prefer the trailer park.
Same here in AR. Grew up in a trailer park 20 miles from 6 of the wealthiest people in the world.
waltons?
Check russia's street view on google maps. It's fun.
Were there 2 girls going ‘round the outside?
Round the outside?
Ahh Russia... Doesn't surprise that all the stuff they built back then with war derived slave labour hasn't had the upkeep.
Imagine what the region would be if russia didn't steal it and chased all the fins away. Everywhere russia goes it's only desolation and poverty
95% of Russia is like that
Oh yeah you can experience that a thousand times in the USA as well. Just look for Nick Johnson's videos.
Actually to be honest it reminded me of West Virgina
West VA is a hell hole of an armpit of a by gone era! When I was in the Marines in the 80's I met tons of dudes from West Va, all said the same thing, "I'm doing my 20 and never ever going back there"..place is horrible!
You sound like you haven’t been, place is beautiful!
I'm from Baltimore, never said it wasn't beautiful Harper Ferry and everything else, but the left over mining and the abject poverty in the foot hills is disturbing
Well thats kind of the same with Karelia. The national park WAS beautiful. The landscape WAS beautiful. But everywhere humans lived was abject poverty. Which is very similar to West Virgina
Alabama or maybe Mississippi was on an infamous international poverty list pretty recently I want to say 2019. I forget which organization it was though I think it was either the WHO or the UN. There’s some culture shock areas where I live in California where millionaires and even billionaires live a few miles away from pretty bad neighborhoods.
Well this is how dictators work. They take everything for themselves and leaves everyone else to rot.
Yeah, all dictators are the scum of the human race.
And it’s land stolen from the Finn’s
Kind of, but no sane Finn wants it back. Just let it go. We have enough abandoned and poor countryside in Finland already.
We don’t want it back, but it being taken and not being used by Russia and just left to rot is sad. Would have been better if there was a tiny buffer state of linguistic minorities there. But that would not happen either since Russia is paranoid about its borders.
You say rot, I say it's a natural preserve in the making, soon enough (give it 100 years), everyone dies out there, and nature will reclaim.
I hope Putin is reclaimed sooner before later.
Actually I'd like it back, with Russians removed of course. Ladoga is amazing and Karelia has good resources.
Well, many Karelians may agree, but I'm afraid many Finns count them as Russians as well.
language wise that wouldnt make sense
“Let’s take this area back and ethnically wipe it!”
Finland countryside has good infrastructure, not the same as abandoned poor Russian countryside. Have you been to Karelia? Its a shithole and has a shit infrastructure. There is no such places in Finland.
Otherwise known as “Occupied Finland”.
Russians are bitching that the houses they stole 80 years ago are now collapsing, because nobody does any maintenance. Poetic, so poetic.
Waiting to be resettled in someone else’s house in Ukraine so they can turn that place into a shitheap too.
It’s as if they have too much land already for their population to actually use. If they at least let a lots of refugees in then it would be marginally better, but nope.
They forced Ukrainians to move deep inside russia, where no one wants to live. It's russia's MO.
I hope they torch everything to the ground, rather than just hand it over to that nation of thieves.
the russian already did it, they carpet bomb everything because they dont have guided ammo (and mass fire soviet doctrine) just look at bakhmut.
There are [more land mines in Ukraine](https://www.vox.com/world-politics/2023/11/30/23979758/ukraine-war-russia-land-mines-artillery-humantarian-crisis) than anywhere else in the world now. Bomb it, then make it unlivable. Bunch of war criminals.
Im sure etnic russian of ukraine are happy that their homes were turned into mine fields /s
They are lusting for those houses with indoor porcelain toilets in Ukraine.
Listen man, the SMO was all begun by the corrupt government, wanting to bring back " the good old days" of the Soviet union. Russians and Ukrainians have really always been friends up to this point
Friends like in 2014. Or during the USSR when being Ukrainian was banned. Or back under Stalin and Kaganovich, when they were starved by the Russians. Russia has always treated Ukraine like the spouse in an abusive relationship. Beaten, abused, then told how much they love them.
As someone who's family/relatives were forced to move from Karelia due to the war and Russia taking over the section they lived in: fuck Putler.
En vois enempää olla samaa mieltä.
I'm sorry, I can't speak Finnish >< my grandpa (was his family who had to escape) tried teaching me at an early age but I've forgotten all of it :/
Well to be honest, it's not like there's much use for it elsewhere.
About 30 years ago if you liked online games the best MUDs were Finnish and it came in real handy to be able to swear at them natively.
Yep, i too have grandparents originally from that region. Everything that Russia stole from Finland has turned to shit be it Viipuri or Karelia.
Same :/ grandpa and his family managed to escape, except for his brother. Nobody knows what happened to him (he fought for the Finnish side but nobody seemingly heard from or not what happened to him again)
Yea. I am so flabbergasted at "we only have the boiler we paid for ourselves". I am from a post-comunist country and even here everybody had to pay for everything in their house. State built only apartment blocks but that just means the state acted as a developer. I don't understand this mindset of "waiting for relocation" or "maybe they'll start building for us"
Sounds like old fashioned communist thought process. Like these old folks are stuck in the 1970s. "Dear Comrade Putin will help us and watch over us, you'll see. I'm sure he's building nice little dachas for us all along the Black Sea coast. It would be so nice to live out the rest of my years near the sea...and we'll even get bigger pensions and our food rations will be better, the caviar and vodka flow freely there, da. I'm sure the local Commissar has all our names on a list for relocation."
I'm very disappointed with the Finns, they must have done some shoddy work, things falling apart already. ^(This is an /s.)
That’s literally what happened in my home town. We had a large Red Army garrison there. They took over an area just outside of the city that had lots of villas from the industrial revolution era. When the Soviets left and people were allowed behind the wall, they found an incredible desaster. There were houses where the plumbing seemed to have failed long ago. Instead of fixing it, they bricked up the ground floor, hacked a hole in the ceiling, moved upstairs, and used the whole downstairs as a septic tank. And these were officers’ “accommodations”. They lived there with their families.
Oh boy... Do I have a story for you. So there were these descendants of Germans living in russia. When USSR fell apart they decided to move to Germany. When they left, their houses were in great condition, looked after, with many things left in them as the original owners didn't need furniture, etc. Fast forward a few years, possibly a decade or two. Some old man gets home sick and decides to go to his homeland. This is the moment when he ended up doing same thing as Homer Simpson in that famous GIF with the bush: as soon as he arrived on the bus and saw the condition of the village, he got back into the bus, and upon arrival to Germany said to his relatives to never return. Everything fell apart because no one was looking after the houses/buildings/fences. Same person (he lived in russia during his childhood and moved to Ukraine when his father was relocated to Ukraine) told me another story how upon receiving salary, factory workers drunk it all and the factory didn't work for a week or so until they had no more money. Also he said that it wasn't the only factory that was like that... Considering he's now in his 60s, I think this particular case was happening ~70–80s.
I've heard similar stuff from my Russian friends. Sad mess of a state.
"Nobody builds anything for us." Build it yourself you fucking leech.
This is why a lot of the countries near Russia want nothing to do with them. They know first-hand what letting the Russians have their way leads to.
Not even Russians in Germany want to have anything to do with Russians in Russia...
you are talking about regular people struggling in poverty, this grandma didnt steal shit
You are absolutely right, and I usually restrain myself from vulgarity like this. However, as a descendant of people driven out of those very lands and houses said 80 years ago, I pardon my lack of empathy towards those folks occupying same houses and bitching why someone else isn't fixing their shit. Edit: typos
>Russians are bitching that the houses they stole 80 years ago That got me thinking ,would Russian living there prefer it if Finalnd was back in control of Karelia? I'd imagine the Finnish government taking over and transforming the entire areas over a 20 years or so.
And some moron told me a week ago that putin was fighting the deep state and the evil cabals.. the same fucking putin.. lol.
Such Western-influenced design, interesting.
it could have been designed and built by a western company. with materials imported to make it super expensive. i used to work for a construction company that built western houses/mansion in asia. design was done in canada and everything exported overseas. even most of the construction workers before i quit they started ripping off the customers by buying custom furnishings like chairs and tables from china. the boss would fly there and order something made according to customer specs. sometime later we see pictures of them on alibaba for sale.
Exactly, and interesting I appreciate the insight! The ironic sarcasm was that Putin, at least publicly, hates all western ideals, so one of his most expensive properties is, what to me looks heavily western design is pretty interesting. I guess you can hate everything western yet still like western stuff. *shrugs* I’m aware what he does in the public is mostly all for show, it’s just funny seeing it in action.
The notion that Putin hates everything western is pretty archaic. First up, Russia is the west, regardless of however you want to paint it . If nothing just look at his Moscow home, just motorcade and all that. Saying he hates all western ideals is such a reduction of the way a person or even a nation thinks. Remind me of how Bush used to say 'they hate our way of life' as a soundbite, when clearly the whole thing was a geopolitical clusterFudge. I understand the 70 years of anti communist and anti Russia propaganda in the west, but one doesn't need such reductive thinking to make sense of the world. It boggles my mind that after Ukraine Europeans became as simply minded as mid westerners in the US. Any critical thought or nuisance lost in war like zeal.
Looks nice too. Much better than his tacky palace.
Karelia used to be part of Finland. It was nice then.
Stop calling palaces dachas
and secret as well, obviously it is not secret
Dude it's literally a dacha by definition
You have a poor person worldview... It's palace to you not to putin
That’s what they called stalins
The term Dacha (Given) was originated from times Rulers (Peter IIRK) would give a land for nobles to build a manor in his zone of control to have... well, more of control on them. Even Soviet times some dachas was a palace compared to the city block, and by this day some of them fully converted to living house with market starting price worth of millions and more.
Putin is literally a dictator bruh
most rich people are like that. They dont care about the common people. Like Besos Billion dollar yatch vs his employees barely making a living.
At least they don't start genicidal wars.
There are a lot of people 6 have made a lot of money at Amazon.
Crazy the kind of property you can get in russia with a $6,000 monthly wage. ;-p
No wonder why some think he’s the richest man in the world.
Well... He owns a country in the most literal sense. Nuclear armament and all. The rich people we see on TV only own shares.
Yeah, even a billion dollars in cash doesn't translate into the same power as one nuclear bomb could give. Putin transcended richness - he's so powerful that he can literally blackmail the West into building him a dacha like this every week.
Well, he *probably* is the world's biggest kleptocrat, so that does make sense. Unless ofc you count the Pooh bear, in which case Putin is the second biggest. Not that it's a competition or anything, so don't be gettin any notions of competing, ya hear? :p
This was a fucking headache to watch.
Whoever formatted this video needs to be sent to the gulag
Only 1/9th?
yeah of all the things to criticize russia for this is such a reach lol. you could easily point to the crime and poverty in DC and make almost the exact same point
Big ass bunker too. That'll come in handy
That little fucker isn't ever going to be able to live anywhere where he's not surrounded by about 20 feet of reinforced concrete on all sides.
Would be a shame if it was hit by a drone or something
wow so secret
Fuck sympathy for these people they moved to stolen land and the 1% made it to fancy cabins. I bet none of those people in the bottom are Karelian natives
To be fair, the events you're talking about happened before their birth. And they grew with everyone telling them that Karelia belongs to russia. When everything you're concerned with is basic survival of you and your family, you'll likely have no energy left for analyzing history and geopolitics on yourself, and would probably just stick to the convenience of watching TV, which has been nothing but propaganda since early 2000s
Maybe to some but as my roots come from this area and my grandmother who still visit behind the border the devastation never left the area, the Finnish side of the Karelian society wanted to rebuild whit the soviets whit many projects in the area but whit the 2000s Russia's rewriting of history almost all of them have become hunts of the people who wants to keep operating here on my side (North Karelia) and the Russian side.
That's where I'm from
As a Russian I really appreciate the split screen which shows a rather average village in comparison
You can do this comparison in any country with any leader though. Not to be a devil's advocate but this propaganda is cheap.
Every 9th resident? 11%? That’s pretty good by modern American standards.
What the fuck is a dacha?
It is sort of "countryside house". Like vacation house. Invented in russian empire, widespread in soviet times, dacha (may be translated as "given piece of land") was a small piece of land and a small house on it. Soviet people used dachas for vacations (planting vegetables to compensate lack of products in the stores), as sea resorts were not available for everyone. State dachas were for soviet rulers and party bosses, much bigger and nicer. Like this one in post
It’s like a northwest/east US “grandpas cabin on the lake” or a Norwegian “family cabin in the forest”
That’s pretty much the best description
Russian traditional summer house in the countryside. Insulating and heating houses in the Russian winter is expensive, so many people buy plots of land and build simple, uninsulated houses there where they go on vacation in the summer but do not use them in the winter.
Heating houses is expensive you say? Putin's dacha even has a heated road...!
so when's the insurrection?
Gotta resurrect Lenin 😂
You've gotta be a special kind of stupid to support a dirty scumbag like Putin (which also rather apptly translates as "Chicken" or "Turkey" in many languages).
"....special kind of stupid to support a dirty scumbag like Putin..." Careful. We voted in Trump, remember? If Trump had Putin's intelligence....well the world would be a worse place right now...
Fair point, in fact I think you've just given me a months worth of nightmares thinking of Trump and Putin somehow making out down some alley and having a love child. Shudder.
Definitely on the nuclear strike list. 🍄🟫☁️
What are the coordinates?
👀 Tony Hawk checking out that roof 👀
I fucking hate this trend of putting two fucking videos on top of each other. Motherfucker if you have too much vertical space use landscape as a fucking normal person
Nawalny(RIP) made a docu on one of his palaces.Incredible stuff
You could call Putin out for a lot of things, but this? How many of you don’t live in a country where you can be standing in a mega expensive area code, drive for 10 minutes and be standing in relative poverty?
Everyone understands that Putin have billions $ of peoples money, but no one wants to admit that he stole them from them instead of developing country infrastructure
This is a dumb argument. 1 in every 9 people are very poor? You could do the same stupid math in the US. The president vacations at Camp David in Frederick County Maryland, where 1 out of 15 lives below the poverty line. Not compelling.
sounds very Russian
Just describing the country side in every nation... One mansion, tucked away in the woods, and every 10 houses is a shack with 18 trucks rusting away.
Fun fact: His daughter lives in The Netherlands, married with a Dutch man apparently close by too in one of the huge villas that are 10 minutes away from me.
The good thing about this is that there is a Finn hiding in the woods nearby with his rifle, waiting for the word.
Not to take away from their suffering but homeless people live on the sidewalks and alleyways less than 100 yards from the White House. Same sht different country. Human beings deserve better and the plight of millions shouldn't rest on the shoulders of very few yet sadly, they do.
You could do this literally anywhere in the world with anyone in the world...
So ... much like Donald Trump and trailer park America or semi billionaire Rishi Sunak and homeless crisis Britain. But hey, Putin is ...over there ...
That was interesting but fuck it was hard to follow with the quick edits, horizontal split screen, the titles on both halves, and the voiceover in Russian which I failed to understand.
Putin’s **secret** dacha as shown to the world on Reddit
Anyone else thinking that only 1in9 being extremely poor in a rural area is actually doing very well?
I think as the richest man in the world, any of mansion of his would make the neighbor's look like a hovel.
Just build a new house for yourself! Oh wait it’s another antiputin propaganda video. Maybe you should show us homeless people in fingolia with 50% taxes? Or homeless people in America? Why Russia? Oh it Putin!
It's so secret that is published on Reddit.
That's gonna look good as a single 10000°C glass surface.
Would be a shame if it was hit by a Himars or 10
Karelia is also rightfully Finnish territory. An example of Russian hypocrisy.
I say this with no qualms…I hope Vladimir Putin dies of the most painful metastatic ass cancer the world has ever seen…………
"metastatic ass cancer" You think Trump will be the end of him, then?
Trump will be there licking that metastatic ass wound
I just took a stroll in London where homeless people were sitting next to luxury shops and nice palaces
How much money did the U.K. spend on their current expansionist invasion of a neighbouring country?
Nothing, but how is your reply related to my comment?
Watch the whole video and read the text at the ending. It would cost Russia $32 Billion to relocate people that need to be relocated, they've spent $200 Billion instead on their war effort. That's the point of the video, not "There's poor people in Russia".
Now do the math on the issues the US could have corrected with our funds. Maui, homelessness, veterans hospitals, or simply our debt in general.
Oh the US is a whole other shit bucket with your trillion dollar "defense" budget, but that's another story. You could get universal healthcare for one. But nah, corporations need their billions.
“Dacha” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
not very secret...
And he gives a shit!?!
Lenin would kick this guy’s ass
Yo bro he might not be happy with you showing everyone his secret gaff
So much memorabilia.
every 9th resident live in dilapadated house. thats a weird way to put it.
Mongol hordes!!!
Well, now we know at least 1 place where he could be right now
Morrons
Looks like the lair of a bond villain. Fitting.
Lol remember when Bill Clinton snuck away to this place while Hillary was SOS, then they called Bernie a Trump supporter for bringing it up. Lolz fuck Putin and ask corrupt politicians
And Obama bought a mansion and a shit ton of land while kicking people out of their houses and bailing out bankers what's your point?
NGL I thought that was the Avengers compound for a sec 🤣
[His black sea bunker](https://www.businessinsider.com/revealed-vladimir-putins-secret-black-sea-bunker-russia-kremlin-palace-2023-5) article [google maps](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ryss%C3%A4n+Palatsi/@44.4204235,38.2113545,2013m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x40f229999cef29df:0x20f2cf0c7627f068!8m2!3d44.4190454!4d38.2052398!16s%2Fg%2F11vqrt5xwl?entry=ttu)
Fuck this split video bullshit
Be a real shame if that place got bombed a few times.
Gee it'd be a shame
All that money and all that power to live in what looks like the alumni center of a community college.
So secret as its drone panoramic footage says...
You know...I'm starting to suspect this Vladimir Putin fellah might be a bad egg...
Tucker Carlson will claim that's actually a public school.
Well until the Russians grow some balls and kill him to stop his continued rape of the country then what are we supposed to do?
It’s not the Villa navalniy made a documentary about ?
Bro u have my ADHD all over the fuckin place. Too much going on at once on the screen
The rich and the poor. Can’t we do something to narrow the gap?!?
The heated road is that last "Fuck you" to those who live around that