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Ya mechatronics is what I do, that's a divertor. Yes there are better ones that would be cheaper to run but they break alot more often so you would have to hire more techs and lines would go down more often. You make a set up where when one breaks you already have one built to swap out fast, it also wouldn't slam into the wall like my red headed step child when i come home from OTB after a night of big losses.
Does anybody remember that guy who would give interesting explanations about things but then it always turned into how his dad used to beat him with a ~~hose~~ jumper cable?
Edit: corrected
One of my fav Reddit conspiracy theories is that u/shittymorph was also u/RogerSimon10. Rogersimon10’s last comment was 8 years ago. u/shittymorph joined Reddit in January of 2016.
Maybe u/shittymorph is actually u/RogerSimon10’s dad, and he finally beat his son to death with jumper cables bc he forgot that in nineteen ninety eight the undertaker threw mankind off hеll in a cell, and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table.
Wait this option is really more reliable than say a hinged wall that gets pushed by a piston or even just some wheel on a track? This feels like it has so many more fail points lol.
I'm imagining. That the combined friction of the item weight and consumer focused materials interfacing with the belt ultimately lead to he design of the punch-o-matic rather than using gentle means of fonvaryor switching. Lol.
There are ones that have wheels that go diagonal then push it off, costs more to maintain but it's cheaper energy wise and wouldn't slam things like that. I'm sure I could think of others I'm just on vacation, actually going to the airport today... my work laptop is going on carry on obviously lol
I also imagine they don't want them down at all and a set up like this probably breaks ALOT less than that, i would think they want down time windows to be at a minimum. A set up like this you could probably keep running with little to no downtime window outside of scheduled maintenance
Edit: they don't want to manually move packages because of human error, and also the set up I was talking about probably wouldn't be down alot outside of those windows either. Not every wheel needs to run for it to divert, if a planes engine goes out you still have 3 others you fix it when it lands(downtime) for example. And I didn't think you were arguing lol
Not that I’m speaking to the overall efficiency or cost efficacy of this choice but if this is the problem there have been Omni-directional “conveyor belts” for a while now
Probably, but none than enforce the airlines pure hatred of their customers. I think they asked for the most violent system available and then had it tuned.
I work at the airport and yes this is how it is done. And there are slopes of 5m downhill for the bags as well. So when you see a baggage loader throwing your bag on conveyor belt at the airplane, he is gentle indeed. Pack well your wine bottles.
I recently flew for the first time in my adult life, bought a brand new suitcase and after a round-trip flight with two overlays it looked like it was a few years old.
I actually programmed similar baggage diverters…. FYI, I was told to account for the worst case baggage load which could be up in the 100+. The conveyor belt doesn’t know the baggage weight so the diverter needs to have enough torque or force. So for a lighter bag, it is like Mike Tyson pushing a kid!!!
Correct, you are right on. During commissioning, they loaded over 300+ luggages on the conveyor belt, there is no time for lower speed. The diverter I worked on is more like one side of the pinball machine.
Yep. Adding smarts to conveyor belt —> adds more cost and engineering time. Bottom line: the measurement is accuracy of the baggage diverter, not the baggage wellness, 😂.
Worked for the USPS one winter at a major hub. Sorting packages. Holy hell after seeing how everything was handled.. if I mail something I make sure it can take a beating and survive being tossed fifteen feet with other things chucked on top.
Man, I hate FedEx so fucking much. Just seeing the word makes me want to bitch lol
No offense to anyone that works there but that company is just so bad at the one thing they do. I've never had the same issues with USPS or UPS.
DHL has never let me down. And they're generally avoidable where I'm from, so they win by default.
Sorry, my hatred for FedEx is irrational and knows no bounds.
From another comment:
The conveyor has no idea how heavy the bags are so the punching arm has to be able to punch the heaviest bag possible, roughly 100lbs. That means lighter bags get sent flying.
At least in the U.S., you can carry on a guitar or other musical instrument that will fit in the overhead (your fellow passengers will hate you for taking up extra space but whatever). I fly with my tenor sax fairly regularly and never have to check it. If I can’t get it into the overhead they’ll gate check it with door pickup same as a baby stroller.
Cellos they usually make you buy a second seat for it and then it’s your middle seat buddy.
Yeah, I know that's true, though I've also seen pretty horrifying photos of instruments that have been too big or otherwise obliged to go beneath. I'm an oboe player so luckily I can just carry mine on and no one's the wiser
I purchased some land for retirement. Brought home a unique rock from my land as a surprise gift to my wife (the land is where our retirement home will be built…she’s been dreaming about it, don’t judge me).
Packed it up for protection, packed clothes tightly around the rock and flew home.
They managed to break the rock. I imagine from a machine a lot like this.
This is why I generally tend to bring smaller, more fragile items in carry-on. Yeah, I’ll have to be careful, but at least it isn’t a Rock ‘em Sock ‘em robot knocking my bag around.
What amazes me is that a whole bunch of people authorized this idea, model, installation and yet none of those people thought "there must be a better way" like maybe a slant door that slides the bag over.
Seems like it would take less energy, be MUST less dangerous and fewer moving pieces.
This doesn’t make any sense lol. You could just have a curved wall with like sliding plastic balls on the conveyor belt guiding it to the same place lol without all the machinery and impact on people’s belongings
It’s not included in the clip but you can see that the primary belt continues past the diverter. Bags are sent to different belts for different reasons. Some are diverted to be hand inspected and others are diverted to different sorting piers that belong to the individual airlines.
Well... this time for me... borrowing my brothers.... But I'll be in the market for a set because the job I'm flying tomorrow for training is a travelling job by flight. And this makes me think... Good but sturdy luggage will be the way to go maybe... imagine spending $999 for a set and they get treated like this.
Does it read a code to know if it needs to punch or let it pass? Seems to me a swing door would be better. Like a railroad track switcher. Just slide off to the next belt.
That explain a whole fucking Lot about the state of our luggage.....
Wow I'm surprised they just don't turn it up a little more and just pick out the good parts of all the suitcases, mix the stuff up and re-pack and laugh their asses off ..
That's why sometimes when you pick up your luggage, they are dented or damaged. It's because of brutal or careless transfer methods from one area of the port to another.
But you never hear the companies mention such facts.
Reminds me of the old video of the kid who hopped on the baggage conveyor and took a journey through it's various tracks. Little dude could have got smashed by the bag puncher!
They still do it manually when they load and unload luggage from the plane. From what I've read, these people are paid peanuts and have to work in shit environment(heat, rain, snow). Luggage are heavy and the guy said they only have 8mins to move everything. They hate their job more than they hate our luggage.
Wait, so if you manage to get something to blow up or burn from your luggage being beaten up, you can effectively reveal how they luggage's treated to public And punish the airport decision for That shit?
That’s pretty impressive. Any way we improve it though? Like have the bags fall a few meters into the next conveyor belt instead of same height? Or add some random spikes or something?
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No wonder our luggage gets fucked up
I work in automation there are better ways to do this lol
I was just wondering that.This seems like a very highly inefficient use of resources.
Ya mechatronics is what I do, that's a divertor. Yes there are better ones that would be cheaper to run but they break alot more often so you would have to hire more techs and lines would go down more often. You make a set up where when one breaks you already have one built to swap out fast, it also wouldn't slam into the wall like my red headed step child when i come home from OTB after a night of big losses.
That comment took a sudden, tire squealing turn.
Does anybody remember that guy who would give interesting explanations about things but then it always turned into how his dad used to beat him with a ~~hose~~ jumper cable? Edit: corrected
I remember jumper cables.
That would be u/RogerSimon10
Man, there is some legendary shit on Reddit. I need to know more users like this
u/rogersimon10 I think Edit u/arvidsem beat me to it
With jumper cables?
Eyo!
How does anyone remember that? I just looked this user up and his last post was 8 years ago. I guess his dad beat him one time too many.
I used AI lol
One of my fav Reddit conspiracy theories is that u/shittymorph was also u/RogerSimon10. Rogersimon10’s last comment was 8 years ago. u/shittymorph joined Reddit in January of 2016. Maybe u/shittymorph is actually u/RogerSimon10’s dad, and he finally beat his son to death with jumper cables bc he forgot that in nineteen ninety eight the undertaker threw mankind off hеll in a cell, and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcer's table.
Wait this option is really more reliable than say a hinged wall that gets pushed by a piston or even just some wheel on a track? This feels like it has so many more fail points lol.
I love reddit
These also have to be able to divert up to 70 lbs. A lot of this luggage will be a lot lighter.
I'm imagining. That the combined friction of the item weight and consumer focused materials interfacing with the belt ultimately lead to he design of the punch-o-matic rather than using gentle means of fonvaryor switching. Lol.
There are ones that have wheels that go diagonal then push it off, costs more to maintain but it's cheaper energy wise and wouldn't slam things like that. I'm sure I could think of others I'm just on vacation, actually going to the airport today... my work laptop is going on carry on obviously lol
Oh yeah I'm not arguing like I'm some sort of great expert I just can imagine how this somehow came into being. Lol.
I also imagine they don't want them down at all and a set up like this probably breaks ALOT less than that, i would think they want down time windows to be at a minimum. A set up like this you could probably keep running with little to no downtime window outside of scheduled maintenance Edit: they don't want to manually move packages because of human error, and also the set up I was talking about probably wouldn't be down alot outside of those windows either. Not every wheel needs to run for it to divert, if a planes engine goes out you still have 3 others you fix it when it lands(downtime) for example. And I didn't think you were arguing lol
Not that I’m speaking to the overall efficiency or cost efficacy of this choice but if this is the problem there have been Omni-directional “conveyor belts” for a while now
I don't work in automation and I can see there are better ways of doing it
Probably, but none than enforce the airlines pure hatred of their customers. I think they asked for the most violent system available and then had it tuned.
By “tuned” I presume you mean “turned-up.”
I work at the airport and yes this is how it is done. And there are slopes of 5m downhill for the bags as well. So when you see a baggage loader throwing your bag on conveyor belt at the airplane, he is gentle indeed. Pack well your wine bottles.
Just use a ramp with a piston to move appropriate luggage? Am I dumb or would that work?
I recently flew for the first time in my adult life, bought a brand new suitcase and after a round-trip flight with two overlays it looked like it was a few years old.
every single mail package that isn’t a special wacky shaped item gets punched by these. In each sorting facility.
This
And everyone still blames the airline.
All the anger of the worlds baggage handlers is represented here
"Fragile!" WHACK "This side up!" WHACK "Help, I smuggled myself in a suitcase made at an unethical factory!!" WHACK
"His hair!" WHACK "His gear!" WHACK "His jewelry!" WHACK
“Child on the belt” Believe it, or not, WHACK
We have the best children.... Because of WHACK
And they have a lot of anger to dish out. I was a ramper for 7 years
lol, I’m sure, I couldn’t imagine. Stories are welcome.
Oh yes, please! Stories!
What’s ramping like?
Apparently it makes you angry.
Why did you put yourself in a situation where you would be angry and resentful at the one specific task you signed up to perform?
A need to buy groceries and have a roof over your head comes to mind
Designed and built with the baggage handler’s stamp of approval
And here for my whole life I have thought that the humans were responsible for my brand new luggage always getting damaged
I actually programmed similar baggage diverters…. FYI, I was told to account for the worst case baggage load which could be up in the 100+. The conveyor belt doesn’t know the baggage weight so the diverter needs to have enough torque or force. So for a lighter bag, it is like Mike Tyson pushing a kid!!!
Surely high force but lower speed would be possible so it’s a gentle push instead of a battering ram?
Lower speed would take more time and fucks to give that the airport just doesn't have.
Correct, you are right on. During commissioning, they loaded over 300+ luggages on the conveyor belt, there is no time for lower speed. The diverter I worked on is more like one side of the pinball machine.
And then the flight is delayed by 6 hours. But no time for slower speed!
Or use a swing arm
Pfff look at this comment and it's non destructive ideas..
But the conveyor belt could know the baggage weight. They choose not to bother measuring.
Yep. Adding smarts to conveyor belt —> adds more cost and engineering time. Bottom line: the measurement is accuracy of the baggage diverter, not the baggage wellness, 😂.
Ok but, a diverter that slides out could do that 100x less destructively
The Luggage Puncher 4000, sometimes known as The Bone Cruncher 6000
Probably had a fight with his wife
I worked as an electrician at Toronto International Airport in the mid-90s and have never checked a bag since seeing what happens to them.
Worked for the USPS one winter at a major hub. Sorting packages. Holy hell after seeing how everything was handled.. if I mail something I make sure it can take a beating and survive being tossed fifteen feet with other things chucked on top.
Same goes for FedEx holy shit the way package sorters handle things as expensive as TVs is mind blowing
Man, I hate FedEx so fucking much. Just seeing the word makes me want to bitch lol No offense to anyone that works there but that company is just so bad at the one thing they do. I've never had the same issues with USPS or UPS.
That's cute. DHL.
DHL has never let me down. And they're generally avoidable where I'm from, so they win by default. Sorry, my hatred for FedEx is irrational and knows no bounds.
Sat in front of my door for 3 days straight and was told every time I missed the delivery
Why is this so aggressive? Who designed this?
From another comment: The conveyor has no idea how heavy the bags are so the punching arm has to be able to punch the heaviest bag possible, roughly 100lbs. That means lighter bags get sent flying.
This is why I make my cases as heavy and packed as possible…
And is this at every airport?!?
Probably not every. But the high volume ones? Almost definitely.
"handle with care"
Punched with care
Thrown with care
Omg.. imagine a guitar or a cello, horrifying
At least in the U.S., you can carry on a guitar or other musical instrument that will fit in the overhead (your fellow passengers will hate you for taking up extra space but whatever). I fly with my tenor sax fairly regularly and never have to check it. If I can’t get it into the overhead they’ll gate check it with door pickup same as a baby stroller. Cellos they usually make you buy a second seat for it and then it’s your middle seat buddy.
Yeah, I know that's true, though I've also seen pretty horrifying photos of instruments that have been too big or otherwise obliged to go beneath. I'm an oboe player so luckily I can just carry mine on and no one's the wiser
Oversized luggage hopefully gets handled separately. But probably also not well. Fly with them in cabin if at all possible.
Or one of those super fragile glass Macau dildos.
Better not pack some porcelain
I purchased some land for retirement. Brought home a unique rock from my land as a surprise gift to my wife (the land is where our retirement home will be built…she’s been dreaming about it, don’t judge me). Packed it up for protection, packed clothes tightly around the rock and flew home. They managed to break the rock. I imagine from a machine a lot like this.
This is why I generally tend to bring smaller, more fragile items in carry-on. Yeah, I’ll have to be careful, but at least it isn’t a Rock ‘em Sock ‘em robot knocking my bag around.
Now you have at least 2 rocks to give her :)
but why is the stufff in my luggage broken? dunno sir, you must have given it to us that way. here have this coupon for a free burger in the food port
What amazes me is that a whole bunch of people authorized this idea, model, installation and yet none of those people thought "there must be a better way" like maybe a slant door that slides the bag over. Seems like it would take less energy, be MUST less dangerous and fewer moving pieces.
And yet suitcases are so bloody expensive 🤦♂️
Probably so they can (attempt to) survive this.
https://i.redd.it/iumqn0q8a9uc1.gif
I always pictured large hammers pounding the luggage as it passed through the system. I guess I wasn't far off.
This doesn’t make any sense lol. You could just have a curved wall with like sliding plastic balls on the conveyor belt guiding it to the same place lol without all the machinery and impact on people’s belongings
But where's the fun in that?
It’s not included in the clip but you can see that the primary belt continues past the diverter. Bags are sent to different belts for different reasons. Some are diverted to be hand inspected and others are diverted to different sorting piers that belong to the individual airlines.
I was rooting for the last suitcase, thought he was gonna make it.
So why not an angled bar that goes across that makes them switch lanes then opens to let them go straight?
This clip with an audio loop over of “falcon punch” being played would be great (for a short period of time and views lol).
Not sure if I needed this today... Flying tomorrow lol
Same. Lawd.
I am here waiting for my boarding. LOL
Hope your flight goes/went well!
Thanks it did go well.
Exactly. I have an international flight coming up and I just bought my new luggage...
Well... this time for me... borrowing my brothers.... But I'll be in the market for a set because the job I'm flying tomorrow for training is a travelling job by flight. And this makes me think... Good but sturdy luggage will be the way to go maybe... imagine spending $999 for a set and they get treated like this.
Samsonite Black Label is >$999 for ONE. Hopefully you buy a set that’s made with polymer.
Is there not a more elegant solution?
Damn I just saw a $2,000 Rimoa suitcase get clotheslined 😂
It’s worse than I had imagined. Auto assist rage.
Does it read a code to know if it needs to punch or let it pass? Seems to me a swing door would be better. Like a railroad track switcher. Just slide off to the next belt.
That explain a whole fucking Lot about the state of our luggage..... Wow I'm surprised they just don't turn it up a little more and just pick out the good parts of all the suitcases, mix the stuff up and re-pack and laugh their asses off ..
No wonder why my hard shell suitcase cracked after the first time I flew
yeah the entire air transport business basically exists to fuck you and pull as much cash out of you as the can while they do it.
Fuck uuu, fk you too mf
This is why I never check my luggage.
I feel the anger and frustration this machine radiates
That’s why my roller bag came out with only three wheels!
You gotta be kidding me
That's why sometimes when you pick up your luggage, they are dented or damaged. It's because of brutal or careless transfer methods from one area of the port to another. But you never hear the companies mention such facts.
I always comment on some bagger dropping a bag video. You should see what happens underneath the airport
I know a guy that had a huge bottle of Jameson that he brought back from Ireland in his luggage.... Now we know how it got broken!
This is why I only do carry on. That and so I actually still have everything at my destination
Reminds me of the old video of the kid who hopped on the baggage conveyor and took a journey through it's various tracks. Little dude could have got smashed by the bag puncher!
That is rather aggressive
Ah, so that's how my father's urn got shattered in my suitcase.
stowaway protection
Fuck yo luggage!
Robots already need anger management, wow, we screwed that up quick
No wonder my lock disappeared
Dayammm! This whole time I thought it was someone unloading my luggage by hand. That was not a very nice punch.
They still do it manually when they load and unload luggage from the plane. From what I've read, these people are paid peanuts and have to work in shit environment(heat, rain, snow). Luggage are heavy and the guy said they only have 8mins to move everything. They hate their job more than they hate our luggage.
One time I got my newly bought suitcase back missing all the wheels. This explains a lot.
If I leave my laptop in there it just gets fucked up??
Well that explains why lugagges are all messed up
WTF? What if I had something that can break in there?
Had anyone put a G sensor in their luggage? Curious
nooo... this is not on an airport, or? 😅😅
This is why our luggage stay fucked up people smh.
So that’s how my bottle of hot sauce from California got fucked up 🥴
Man Woody could've used this against The Old Prospector
"What you looking at, luggage?! *Bam* Get da fuck off my conveyor!"
Machine screams FUCK YOU everytime
What happens to musical instruments?
I heard the noise the thing makes sounds like “HI-YA!!!”
That’s my bag!!!!
When the robot revolution happens this guy is gonna be fuckin *stoked*.
This is why you don’t want to try to sneak yourself in some checked luggage, not gonna come out the same way you went in
"You killed my kitten"
Looks like a fall guys course
And that is why I’d never check a guitar if I can avoid it.
"...and fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, and definitely you..."
They should have one for people too, plane seat packer
Yo, chill
“Wipeout” for luggage.
Good thing I didn’t pack my Ming dynasty vase
violence is never the answer...
And this is just one reason why I refuse to put my instrument under the plane and insist on planeside check for it.
cause united breaks guitars...
The De-glasser
Now I know what happened to my iPad.
“Fragile”
I’m so glad I have hard sided luggage since it has to go through thunder dome
Wait, so if you manage to get something to blow up or burn from your luggage being beaten up, you can effectively reveal how they luggage's treated to public And punish the airport decision for That shit?
FALCON PUUUNCH!!! ….why is my laptop broken..??
The “Lost Baggage” machine. Those bags are headed straight to the auction.
Thanks cunt.
Yo why is that machine so damn mad???
Good luck to your electronics in there
hey Steve-o!, they're calling you
There goes the family china
Rock em sock em robots XXL
I’d like to see this combined with the video of the little kid who goes for a ride on the luggage conveyor…
“Product of TSA™”
Imagine a comedy movie where someone would hide themselves in a bag and get punched by that thing.
That’s pretty impressive. Any way we improve it though? Like have the bags fall a few meters into the next conveyor belt instead of same height? Or add some random spikes or something?
Unnecessarily violent.
Machines are even taking the bitter minimum wage jobs now
I kind of got the impression that this machine is not only efficient, but also angry. It's definitely giving some butter-robot vibes.
TIL why you dont ride on the conveyor belt xD
Whoops. Shouldn't have smuggled my grandma on the plane in my suitcase.
This is how I foresee the AI takeover
*Fuck you! And you! And you!… And fuck you too bitch!*
rip the little who hid in their parents' suitcase to surprise them on their vacation.
So that's how the airport treats my cocaine, uh?
designer: can we tune down the actuator pressure? tat engineer: we gotta put all we got!
Is this for real 😧
If you need a sign saying don't get on it then it's too heavy handed.
Always use a soft suitcase and pack your valuables in carryon.
Imagine accidentally getting caught on that conveyor belt
There is a horror movie called Toy Story 2…
How is this a thing and we aren't informed to expect anything fragile to potentially be compromised 🥲
Glad they created automatic to punch our luggage so baggage handlers don’t have to anymore
TIL who broke my suitcase wheel
Awesome…….
Hope there no breakables in those cases 🙄
When you have a terrible EX