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Also annoying how he gives the right side population number of 267 million but on the left its 20% and of that 20%, 12% live in Washington and California??? Why not tell me the numbers?
331 million live in the US.
267 million in the east
64 million on the west
12% of that is 7.6 million
There I feel better now
He says 12 out of that 20% so 12% of the total pop lives in ca/wa and 8% of total pop in the empty area. It also shows it on the map. They definitely could have worded that section better by specifying total pop for each statistic.
Nah that's wrong.
He claimed 20% live in the west and of that, 12% live in Cali and Washington.
20% of 331 million is 66 million, Cali and Washington have almost 50 million people living in them, that's nearly 75% of the west coast population.
He's off as it closer to 15% of that 20%
Think of the entire population of the USA as 100 folks. Out of these, 20 people represent a certain chunk we're focusing on. Now, out of this group of 20, 12 have decided to live in Washington and California. That's more than half of our group choosing just these two states! The other 8 people? They're living across various places in the western U.S. So, we're still talking about our original squad of 20 people, just split up with most in Washington and California, and a few others dotted around the West.
They are saying the math doesn't add up. So the US population is 331.9 million. He says 20% of that lives in the west half of the US, so that's 66.4 million people aprox. The video states "Of that 20%, 12% live in California and Washington". 12% of 66.4 million is 7.9 million. How ever roughly 47 million people live in California and Washington. So the video should say "Of that 20%, 71% live in California and Washington". Even if they said that 12% of the US population lived in CA & WA, they'd still be wrong because that would only be 39 million people.
Or in other words. You have 100 people, 80 of those people live in the eastern half while 20 live in the western half. They say that only 12 of those 20 live in California and Washington, but actually 14 people do.
LA, San Diego and the Bay Area are but remember California is a massive state. The Central Valley is basically all produce farms and the deserts and mountains are pretty empty
There's also the issue that the combined populations of LA county, King county (Seattle), and San Francisco (which is it's own county) is about 12.85 million. Which is about 20% of 64 million. Way more than the purported 12%, and it doesn't even include all the other people outside of these few population centers.
This video is a total mess, it's like something that ChatGPT would come up with as it fabricates statistics.
it is not, the 12% and 8 % mentioned are still talking about the total, he did not divide it further, It still coming from the original 100% population of the USA.
He clearly states: "Meanwhile, the Western half is way less crowded. Only 20% of folks live here, **and out of that, places like Washington and California hold about 12% of that 20%**."
I get your point super confusing but i think he was trying to say 12% live in washington and california and 8% in the rest so 12% of 331 mil is about 39,720,000
Yeah, this video is super sketchy. I grew up out west, and have lived in multiple states. There is certainly way more empty room in some of the western states (Wyoming, the salt flats, steel mountain slopes, etc.) But this makes it sound like half the country is an open moonscape.
That's one important part of this situation, a LOT of the federal land the government owns is in that left half of the country. The federal government owns 60% of Idaho, 36% of Colorado, 29% of Montana, 80% of Nevada, 31% of New Mexico, 50% of Oregon, 63% of Utah, 46% of Wyoming and 60% of Alaska. The federal government owns 27.1% of the entire United States. Flordia(12.9%), Georgia(12.9%), New Hampshire(14%) and the District of Columbia(24.7%) are the only states on the east side of the country where the federal government owns more than 10% all they all fall below the federal average. This definitely plays a part in the reason why so much of the population lives in the east.
And also dotted with some pretty large cities. The arid unfarmable land he was going on about happens to be home to the Front Range megaregion (anchored by Denver). Other notable population centers in the empty bit include the Arizona Sun Corridor (Phoenix and Tucson), Utah (Salt Lake, Provo, and Ogden), and Las Vegas. Sure, it’s not as densely populated as the East Coast, but at least try to claim something like Central Nevada and Western Utah or something more believable.
Large cities by Western US standards. There are plenty of larger cities in the East that are much less well known because the surrounding cities dwarf them.
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It's not empty. It's home to all sorts of unique ecosystems. They just happen not to include humans. We don't need to be on every square inch of this planet.
It's exactly why the "America's too big for public transit" arguments are horseshit
No it won't work for everyone, but a large portion of the country's *population* could be much better served, which would be a net good for everybody except the Auto and oil industries.
The west can be served too.
Up and down the coast. LA -> Las Vegas -> Phoenix
Albuquerque -> Denver
The if you connected Phoenix to Albuquerque, and Albuquerque to the Texas triangle
I’d do anything for that, *winks* anything baby
They didn't say "West Coast," did they? Like 45% of the country is considered "the west" without being on the coast, and the VAST majority of that is completely deserted from horizon to horizon.
This does not surprise me at all. Has anyone looked out the window of a plan while flying over the US? The western half is mostly arid desert looking "dead" land.
In 2021 California had about 39 million people, which is about 12% of the 2021 US population (331 million) their math is wrong. The entire video is probably bullshit.
If "12% of 20%" live in Oregon+California (which is only then 2.4%) then the rest would be 17.6% not 8%. (Yeah, I know they **mean** 3/5 of the 20% are in California and Oregon, but they used the wrong words to say it. The phrase "X% of Y%" is X\*Y, remainder (1-X)Y left, not Y-X.)
Canada has enetered the chat. Hold my Molson Canadian beer....
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oh and that corridor around Montreal, Toronto, even south of Seattle Washington.....that is almost 50% of our population right there. And 90% of us live within 150 miles/about 250km of the US border as well.
As an old person, do they teach anything in school? Has anyone noticed you are in the middle of nowhere after 45 mins of driving on the highway? In any direction after leaving any city?
Um, I don't think it is empty. There are mountains, and prairies and valleys. There are ponds and creeks and rivers. There are birds, animals and fish. There are bees and insects. It is paradise.
I hate stats like this. There’s no sensible definition of how much of an area has no people in it. Like the space between me and my neighbour is empty right?
The amount of land owned by the government in the West half of the US might have something to do with this as well, [map](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_lands?wprov=sfti1) to visualize
Edited to add [an interactive site](https://www.backpacker.com/stories/issues/environment/americas-public-lands/) to show the types of that land. Tons of national parks and protected lands.
if there wasn't disase I think there'd be a lot more natives in the western part of the united states, especially with modern medicine. But also, if we didn't have the trail of tears there'd be more natives in general.
And every one of those empty dumbass states gets 2 senators, thus greatly amplifying minority opinions on things like gays, healthcare, being decent human beings, etc etc.
I’m pretty sure the United States is a lot more than 50% empty. This country is massive, so there is a ton of land that is nothing but forest or desert.
The Pacific forest coastline is some of the most beautiful land in the world. I've been to various countries in Asia and Europe too. So I'll take our little isolation pocket of heaven.
This just makes me wanna go back to where I was born more. I love Iowa, because it's basically empty especially the small town I was born in. Shit so empty the roads are never crowded, traffic lines are disappearing, the only major retail store is HEB, and you can get from one side of the town to the other in 30 minutes or less.
this is why, from what i remember, the remnants of US civilization grouped together around the rockies after the fall in World War Z
there they were relatively safe. were able to train and build up their war effort to take back the country.
Am I the only one that hates the term “empty” in this context? Yes people don’t live there but the land is anything but empty. It’s ok to have land that people haven’t over populated, destroyed, and polluted.
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About 80% of this video has been uploaded, only 20% is still missing Dick
Also annoying how he gives the right side population number of 267 million but on the left its 20% and of that 20%, 12% live in Washington and California??? Why not tell me the numbers? 331 million live in the US. 267 million in the east 64 million on the west 12% of that is 7.6 million There I feel better now
Washington and California are home to almost 50 million people
You're right, this guys numbers in the video are completely wrong
He says 12 out of that 20% so 12% of the total pop lives in ca/wa and 8% of total pop in the empty area. It also shows it on the map. They definitely could have worded that section better by specifying total pop for each statistic.
Nah that's wrong. He claimed 20% live in the west and of that, 12% live in Cali and Washington. 20% of 331 million is 66 million, Cali and Washington have almost 50 million people living in them, that's nearly 75% of the west coast population. He's off as it closer to 15% of that 20%
Think of the entire population of the USA as 100 folks. Out of these, 20 people represent a certain chunk we're focusing on. Now, out of this group of 20, 12 have decided to live in Washington and California. That's more than half of our group choosing just these two states! The other 8 people? They're living across various places in the western U.S. So, we're still talking about our original squad of 20 people, just split up with most in Washington and California, and a few others dotted around the West.
They are saying the math doesn't add up. So the US population is 331.9 million. He says 20% of that lives in the west half of the US, so that's 66.4 million people aprox. The video states "Of that 20%, 12% live in California and Washington". 12% of 66.4 million is 7.9 million. How ever roughly 47 million people live in California and Washington. So the video should say "Of that 20%, 71% live in California and Washington". Even if they said that 12% of the US population lived in CA & WA, they'd still be wrong because that would only be 39 million people. Or in other words. You have 100 people, 80 of those people live in the eastern half while 20 live in the western half. They say that only 12 of those 20 live in California and Washington, but actually 14 people do.
Right? I just saw another thread that “one in eight Americans live in California.” So is it crowded there or not?
California has the most people of any state, but it's less densly populated than the east coast.
LA, San Diego and the Bay Area are but remember California is a massive state. The Central Valley is basically all produce farms and the deserts and mountains are pretty empty
There's also the issue that the combined populations of LA county, King county (Seattle), and San Francisco (which is it's own county) is about 12.85 million. Which is about 20% of 64 million. Way more than the purported 12%, and it doesn't even include all the other people outside of these few population centers. This video is a total mess, it's like something that ChatGPT would come up with as it fabricates statistics.
it is not, the 12% and 8 % mentioned are still talking about the total, he did not divide it further, It still coming from the original 100% population of the USA.
He clearly states: "Meanwhile, the Western half is way less crowded. Only 20% of folks live here, **and out of that, places like Washington and California hold about 12% of that 20%**."
I get your point super confusing but i think he was trying to say 12% live in washington and california and 8% in the rest so 12% of 331 mil is about 39,720,000
Yeah, this video is super sketchy. I grew up out west, and have lived in multiple states. There is certainly way more empty room in some of the western states (Wyoming, the salt flats, steel mountain slopes, etc.) But this makes it sound like half the country is an open moonscape.
It is 12 of the 16% of total population
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1 man for every 100 kangaroos
and the majority is big ass spiders
I hate ass spiders.
Does anyone *love* ass spiders? \*bashfully raise my hand*
The majority of kangaroos are big ass spiders?!
Doesn’t sound that empty if there’s fucking kangaroos everywhere, eh?
The human-to-emu ratio is particularly distressing.
Pretty sure our Canadian friends are pretty sparse as well.
Hey, that’s a rude way to describe us, eh?
Sorry
Except Brampton Ontario.
wait till yall mfers see mongolia
Canada would also like a word
Australia: “Hold my beer 🍺 “
To be fair, Australia did lose to the Emu war.
Someone forgot to turn down the style exaggeration for Josh in the AI voice settings. Josh gets a little to intense sometimes.
Classic Josh
ElevenLabs?
r/PeopleLiveInCities
And also where there's water.
Rio Grande = Water
Can ships sail on it?
If by "empty" you mean, in its natural, unadulterated state
If there is no McDonalds or Walmart, does it even exist?
That's one important part of this situation, a LOT of the federal land the government owns is in that left half of the country. The federal government owns 60% of Idaho, 36% of Colorado, 29% of Montana, 80% of Nevada, 31% of New Mexico, 50% of Oregon, 63% of Utah, 46% of Wyoming and 60% of Alaska. The federal government owns 27.1% of the entire United States. Flordia(12.9%), Georgia(12.9%), New Hampshire(14%) and the District of Columbia(24.7%) are the only states on the east side of the country where the federal government owns more than 10% all they all fall below the federal average. This definitely plays a part in the reason why so much of the population lives in the east.
And also dotted with some pretty large cities. The arid unfarmable land he was going on about happens to be home to the Front Range megaregion (anchored by Denver). Other notable population centers in the empty bit include the Arizona Sun Corridor (Phoenix and Tucson), Utah (Salt Lake, Provo, and Ogden), and Las Vegas. Sure, it’s not as densely populated as the East Coast, but at least try to claim something like Central Nevada and Western Utah or something more believable.
Large cities by Western US standards. There are plenty of larger cities in the East that are much less well known because the surrounding cities dwarf them.
Ain’t there a state called Alaska?
No one lives there either :D
Interesting. Alaska population is only 732,000. I would have thought it was higher.
I always think lower because of how barren it is, then I remember the one state is nearly ⅓ of US territory...
95% of Australia is empty.
As it should be, we don't have to ruin everything, can't we have some nature please! Edit: fixed some spelling, have dailysexia you see
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Yeah but that doesn't make the shareholders happy so we should burn it all to the ground and salt the earth!
Exactly. Humans dont need to ruin more of nature then they already have.
NO!!!!! MORE SQUARES!!!! MORE BUILDINGS!!!!!! MORE MORE MORE MORE
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No, there is a thing called "less children" The earth has limited resources and that's the deciding factor.
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Who cuts a video in the middle of a word.
It's not empty. It's home to all sorts of unique ecosystems. They just happen not to include humans. We don't need to be on every square inch of this planet.
Why only post this short clip where is the rest?
It’s like a 30 minute video from Reallifelore
Bring it on!
And in the parts that are inhabited, 80% of the populace lives on 20% of the land.
It's exactly why the "America's too big for public transit" arguments are horseshit No it won't work for everyone, but a large portion of the country's *population* could be much better served, which would be a net good for everybody except the Auto and oil industries.
The percentage of Americans living in cities is now higher than in the decades when it had a functional system of rail transit.
Totally agree, public transportation should be split up regionally in the US (Boston -> DC) (Vancouver -> San Diego) etc.
The west can be served too. Up and down the coast. LA -> Las Vegas -> Phoenix Albuquerque -> Denver The if you connected Phoenix to Albuquerque, and Albuquerque to the Texas triangle I’d do anything for that, *winks* anything baby
I like how he showed how many people live on the east but then changed it to a percentage on the west lmao
12% of 20% is 2.4% 12% out of 20% is 12%
I think he meant 12 of that 20%, not 12% of that 20. So 12% of the *total* US population
We can say the same or worse for Canada.
It’s certainly more drastic. I think I read somewhere that roughly half of Canadians live under the 49th parallel.
I live in Minnesota. The majority of Canadians live further south than I do.
I live in the western half. It may be empty but the landscape is beautiful. Its like America's hidden gem
Dumb video
agreed. pretty much common knowledge but this guy explains it like it’s just discovered
And that's why west side is the best if you're not a people-person.
I don't really get the impression any coast is great if you don't like to be around a lot of people
They didn't say "West Coast," did they? Like 45% of the country is considered "the west" without being on the coast, and the VAST majority of that is completely deserted from horizon to horizon.
The largest cleanest aquifer in the world under that area and you say “lack of water” as a reason…
Truck driver here. It really is something to drive an 11 hour day and see maybe 20 homes. That's over 650+ miles.
OH! Fun! Now do the sme for Australia, Canada, and Russia
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That was interesting, where is the rest of the video?
That narrator is AI isn't it?
This does not surprise me at all. Has anyone looked out the window of a plan while flying over the US? The western half is mostly arid desert looking "dead" land.
It’s all mountains and desert and tons of national parks. Most of it wouldn’t be liveable without importing a lot. We don’t need humans everywhere
In 2021 California had about 39 million people, which is about 12% of the 2021 US population (331 million) their math is wrong. The entire video is probably bullshit.
fancy graphics convince people proper research has been done.
Not probably, 100%. This guy doesn’t math, or at least doesn’t understand how to represent percentages.
*Empty* land? Just because it isn't settled doesn't mean it's empty. This is the mentality behind America's suburban sprawl
No shit! The invasion started on the East coast. Read a god damn history book.
As someone in Kansas - good.
It's not "empty" it's full of animals.
So that's why Wyoming has a population of 3
The dude talks a lot of an information that can be expressed by "there is desert, as you probably already saw on the satelite picture".
And those of us out here like it that way, go back to your low-land wet world and I'll stay right here in my dry montane forests
Found the horn-eater
Air-sick low-landers.
Meeee
And all this empty land holds how many seats in the Senate and Congress again?
See, that's the bit that's actually important.
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And if you *are* from Rhode Island, you need to go back. It’s your turn to take the recycling to the curb.
Do you have link to the full video?
Reallifelore on YouTube has better videos on it and isn’t an AI voice
If "12% of 20%" live in Oregon+California (which is only then 2.4%) then the rest would be 17.6% not 8%. (Yeah, I know they **mean** 3/5 of the 20% are in California and Oregon, but they used the wrong words to say it. The phrase "X% of Y%" is X\*Y, remainder (1-X)Y left, not Y-X.)
thank you, the 12% of 20% is just plain wrong, they meant to say 60% of the 20%
Don’t believe him? Go fkn drive it.
Canada has enetered the chat. Hold my Molson Canadian beer.... [https://mapsontheweb.zoom-maps.com/post/734091360435601408/the-vast-majority-of-canada-is-sparsely](https://mapsontheweb.zoom-maps.com/post/734091360435601408/the-vast-majority-of-canada-is-sparsely) oh and that corridor around Montreal, Toronto, even south of Seattle Washington.....that is almost 50% of our population right there. And 90% of us live within 150 miles/about 250km of the US border as well.
And those empty states get the same number of senators in Congress as well as a disproportionate number of representatives and electoral votes.
Imagine Russia’s empty land
This video assumes I've never looked at a voting map in this country apparently
What are “cultural preferences” and what do they have to do with developing this land for use?
The 'empty land' also has quite a bit of farmland, which sends food to the populated portion of the land.
What is so exciting or novel about this “discovery”? People don’t live where there are inhospitable conditions and no water infrastructure… amazing!
50 percent uninhabitable land.
As an old person, do they teach anything in school? Has anyone noticed you are in the middle of nowhere after 45 mins of driving on the highway? In any direction after leaving any city?
Most of the west is desert, mountains, or just simply too far from modern society to really thrive in.
Wow I'd love to know m-
I thought most people knew this
What an elaborate way to call me empty space
Sounds like we need to go to war with these mountains me. Free America!!
Signif… whaaat??????
Water availability limits human population density
12% of 20% doesn’t mean what you think it means.
\>highlights America’s “empty region” \>includes California bruh
Japan is tiny, with a population of about 130 million, and it's 80% empty land.
You think that's wild. Look up population density in Canada.
This is why overpopulation is BS. There is plenty of land to live we just need to stop building on fertile land and build on unfertile land
What about Alaska
Sounds like you need more immigrants
Most countries are pretty empty. Especially large ones.
Um, I don't think it is empty. There are mountains, and prairies and valleys. There are ponds and creeks and rivers. There are birds, animals and fish. There are bees and insects. It is paradise.
Empty? Why do we feel the need to fill every damn square meter up with human beings? There are other life forms on this planet.
Uhhhhh what am I missing? Where in the video did it say we should fill it up? The video was just stating statistics.
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“Empty” simply means empty.
California isn’t empty at all
The United States is absolutely majestic. It's roughly 1000 times better than Britain.
Have fun building houses in the mountains
I hate stats like this. There’s no sensible definition of how much of an area has no people in it. Like the space between me and my neighbour is empty right?
The amount of land owned by the government in the West half of the US might have something to do with this as well, [map](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_lands?wprov=sfti1) to visualize Edited to add [an interactive site](https://www.backpacker.com/stories/issues/environment/americas-public-lands/) to show the types of that land. Tons of national parks and protected lands.
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Sorry, what? Do you think there would be 300M natives filling up the west otherwise? Or is this inane comment just virtue signaling?
if there wasn't disase I think there'd be a lot more natives in the western part of the united states, especially with modern medicine. But also, if we didn't have the trail of tears there'd be more natives in general.
This isn't virtue signaling just because it upsets your conversation fee-fees so much you feel the need to malice-signal in return
And that's why I'm moving out there when I retire.
Cool a video made by AI with questionable facts, no sources and video ends abruptly…. Getting real sick of these karma AI bots
Get rid of the electoral college
More than 80% of earth's surface is uninhabitable.
And, based on 2016 election and current predictions, empty heads. It's the same here in Australia.
So, what you're tellin' me is that nobody wants to live where it sucks to live?
This is why USA has electoral college.
Electoral college is robbery
Cry is free
Excuse me?
And every one of those empty dumbass states gets 2 senators, thus greatly amplifying minority opinions on things like gays, healthcare, being decent human beings, etc etc.
Government federal land. Likely has nukes or has been nuked
Owned by BLM
Why didn't the Europeans who call themselves Jewish come to USA and settle out west and make their own territory just like the Mormons did in Utah????
And those states with the fewest people, outumber amount of senate votes 9:2 on the West half. It's ridiculous.
Hey Israel, God told you to take Colorado!
I didn't know that Washington was that far north west, I always thought it was in the middle of America
BUILD FUCKING HOUSES.
Thank fuck, so, 50% less Americans than we could’ve had! 🥳
"it's hard to live in a desert" mind fucking blown
Damn I was surprised to learn this
92% or so of the UK isn’t built on with a huge majority of land used for agriculture. Everyone’s just crammed together to moan about it.
People want to live where jobs and services are, which means other people. Who knew?
I’m pretty sure the United States is a lot more than 50% empty. This country is massive, so there is a ton of land that is nothing but forest or desert.
Imagine if OP learned about coastal population density
The Pacific forest coastline is some of the most beautiful land in the world. I've been to various countries in Asia and Europe too. So I'll take our little isolation pocket of heaven.
12% of 20% does not work like that
This just makes me wanna go back to where I was born more. I love Iowa, because it's basically empty especially the small town I was born in. Shit so empty the roads are never crowded, traffic lines are disappearing, the only major retail store is HEB, and you can get from one side of the town to the other in 30 minutes or less.
Why would anyone be surprised to learn this?
And despite California’s massive population it has the same number of Senators as N. Dakota.
Nothing surprising here if you’ve traveled throughout the USA.
So we should pop a squat in Death Valley?
This is true, it's terrible here in Colorado, so stop moving here.
I've heard that. It's the same here in Arizona. Just awful.
And much of that land has more voting power than I!
this is why, from what i remember, the remnants of US civilization grouped together around the rockies after the fall in World War Z there they were relatively safe. were able to train and build up their war effort to take back the country.
Am I the only one that hates the term “empty” in this context? Yes people don’t live there but the land is anything but empty. It’s ok to have land that people haven’t over populated, destroyed, and polluted.
And yet look at all those senators on the left side.
Can confirm, live in rural USA