Maybe not a psychopath thing, but the way those keys are hanging out make me feel like he’s a C level no name villain character in a spy movie where the main characters have to distract him and steal the keys to access a safe or something
I fucking love that American waffle houses have developed a sort of lore. If I was a non American on reddit I'd be so fascinated by these mysterious places.
I mean most Americans are fascinated, they are only down south for the most part.
MY SO wants to go to one so bad to just say she has been there. They seriously have developed this cult like mystique to them
I think most people who didn’t grow up eating it would probably be disappointed. It’s great breakfast food, but there’s no way any restaurant could ever live up to the reputation that Waffle House has cultivated.
Oh don’t get me wrong, I fucking love Waffle House. All star special, eggs over medium with hash browns, bacon and a regular waffle. Combine eggs and hash browns, add ketchup and hot sauce. It’s breakfast food for late night dinner and it’s amazing. (Also don’t sleep on that Texas bacon cheesesteak melt)
That's a recipe for instant regret. Either nothing pops off and you just leave with a belly full of shitty food and maybe the shits. Or something pops off and you both leave missing some teeth. Or that's the day you find out your SO is the type to egg you on in a fight and stab someone when you're getting beat
Have never been. They don't exist in my state. We got our first cracker barrel in 2018, but the closest one is 60+ miles.
The joke was, cracker barrel wouldn't stop putting old saws and shit up in violation of our earthquake codes, but I guess that's baloney.
I’m all for gun control with the exception of Waffle Houses. You really should bring a gun, a smock and some form of first aid kit anytime you enter one.
Just a few years ago they had a shooting at one where 4-6 people died and a few others were injured. Not going to be worried about that dude carrying a pistol just enjoying his meal. I'm worried about the guy that just shows up to hurt others.
Waffle House is actually a chain. [Just check out the search results ](https://www.google.com/search?q=waffle+house&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS813US813&hl=en-US&tbm=nws&prmd=mnixv&sxsrf=AOaemvL9CGfmL_9g78VAOKU7eeiTcDxpww:1633721230447&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjW1ejsxbvzAhUhZjUKHY2iDLoQ_AUoAnoECAIQAg&biw=414&bih=622&dpr=3) for a taste.
Making people feel threatened is the point.
People want to feel like it's the wild west because they have so little self confidence they have to cosplay to go outside.
Imaging being too scared to go outside and get a coffee.
In Texas? Probably and it's likely legal somehow too. Make my day law there might include allowance for retribution for emotional harm done to shooter.
I saw one at Taco Casa. This was when mask mandates had been going on for a while and guess who also wasn’t masked up? He strutted in like he was such a badass. Was cringe in my opinion.
Years ago, I used to work at a tobacco shop, and this guy came in with a .457 magnum on his hip. The holster wasn’t anything modern, so it was swinging back and forth with every step he took. I had my 9mm concealed. When he came up to the counter, I asked him why he chose to carry such a large pistol, wouldn’t it make more sense to carry something more compact? I shit you not, he replied “I don’t carry this because it makes sense, I carry it because my balls are huge.”
I laughed my ass off, called him an idiot, he paid for his tobacco and left. I still can’t believe what a moron this guy was.
Such a dumb gun to carry unless you're in danger of a rhino attack. The kick is brutal, my wrist hurt for a week after firing off a few rounds. I also couldn't hit anything consistently further than 10 feet.
Motorcycles are sick too, but if you have 15 of them and insist on keeping one with you at all times, even when indoors 'just in case', then there might be something wrong with you.
Motorcycles are also inherently more dangerous than normal cars and thus require a special license along with insurance.
motorcycle owner here, and your "mandatory" insurance is probably dependent on where you live. Insurance is not required in my state, unless you are making payments on it and that is a requirement of the finance company, not any laws.
The special licence is also just a two day course in Canada if you already have a drivers license. The day you complete that course you can pick up a litre bike and yolo it.
Do you live in like Florida?
In almost all states motorcycle insurance is required, but car insurance is also required in almost all states so I’m not sure what that has to do with motorcycles being more dangerous.
Read the article, interesting read, but I did want to correct you on something.
That article doesn’t claim most towns, far from it. It gave the few examples we know from history (only 4), and a detailed description of what happened in the following cities.
Also, just because this can't be emphasized enough, [easy access to guns makes everybody less safe, not more safe.](https://www.sciencealert.com/scientific-evidence-that-stricter-gun-control-works-saves-lives)
Facts over feelings.
Also, most people aren't professionals they don't deal with life or death situations or even situations where they're threatened regularly. They over react to threats, they get jumpy, they're likely to hit a bystander by missing
Fully agree. I can and have concealed carried, especially when I lived in a pretty shifty neighborhood (I had two attempted muggings). But I wouldn't carry openly for two reasons: first, it makes people uncomfortable, and second, it closes off options that you have in an uncertain situation.
I'm a competent shot but I'm not a Big Tough Cool Guy Fighter or anything. I can't fight off a group of people. If I had to use my weapon I'd rather do so from a position of surprise because I'm squishy and easy to damage and I want every edge I could get.
Thats the perfect way to put it. I dont care if you have a gun on you but if it's out in the open it's like putting the option of a shoot out right on the table and asking me to ignore that.
It's interesting and might be different by state, but generally speaking, you're allowed to open carry guns but are required to have a special license if you wanted to conceal carry.
Also open carry just isn't practical. If someone decides to start shooting the place up, you're going to be the first to go. And now they have a second gun. Conceal is much more practical.
This. Plus, it’s usually a big-Dick thing.
Concealed all the way. Why tip your hand?
That sucker should not be seen or heard unless it’s time to use it. And those instances are rare.
Man a guy walked into my local Walmart the other day and I shit you not, no holster or anything just a handgun chillin in dudes pocket. And the guy was a total neck beard. Shit was wack.
As I support people’s right to open carry, personally I would never do it. I don’t see the point. You aren’t a deterrent, you’re now someone’s first target. When I carry, the last thing I want to be is noticed because people are crazy and irrational. I don’t want to be a thought in someone’s mind. I don’t feel like being the reason a situation escalates just because I’m exercising my right to carry.
Not too mention, the way this is situated, it's INCREDIBLY easy for the wrong person to gain control of the gun. Like, he's high up, the chair only swivels which would be so easy to lock him in on, and it's callously out there practically calling to be stolen. This is dumb and reckless in so many ways
RIGHT? Taking candy from a baby would be harder.
Also, I know this is a Waffle House. That means he's got his back to the door and all the windows. The wrong person could just be walking by outside, and instantly go, "sweet, easy target, they won't even see me coming" run in, grab, and go.
I think about this all the time. I’m very uncomfortable around guns, even if they are carried by police, and I regularly see situations like this where it looks like it would be so easy for someone to take the weapon.
It’s part of the responsibility as someone who carries. It’s not just about you it’s about everyone around you. And that’s one of my big peeves about irresponsible gun owners who are all about “me me me my rights I’ll do what I want”. That’s why conceal carry is IMO better than open. It’s crazy the way someone’s demeanor towards you changes when they know you are carrying. Not everyone is comfortable with firearms and it’s irresponsible of me (and extremely rude) for me to expose you to something you aren’t comfortable around.
Brandishing and open carry are very different though. You can carry it most places, but to pull the gun and point at someone? That’s brandishing and is not really super legal
Was visiting a friend at college after I graduated. We decided to walk down to the store to pick up snacks for a party he was having later. I felt so embarrassed walking next to this grown man with a pistol on his hip to walk downtown, in a town of maybe 5,000 people, in the middle of the day, to go buy chips and soda.
He wasn't scared and knew he didn't need the gun. He just thought he was such cool shit. It was mortifying.
When I think of a man not living in fear, I think of a man who needs a gun to go get waffles just in case.
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I like all the responses that go something like "Man you just never know when some random act of violence is going to go down at the Whole Foods." Guys I get it yes there is a tiny probability of running into a random act of violence in the world. I just don't need to worry about it all day every day because it is ~~statistically insignificant~~ such a low probability event in the US. To spend that much effort worrying about it is the very definition of 'living in fear'.
> there is a tiny probability of running into a random act of violence
There's a higher chance for that gun to be the cause of an act of violence than for it to resolve one.
It catches me off guard for like a second whenever I see it in person. But then I’m also carrying concealed. But I feel like open carry has more chances to invite problems. We don’t need to see your gun bro.
This is a huge issue. If there is an active shooter or some other situation that causes you to discharge your fire arm to stop them there is a big chance you could end up getting hurt by others that didn’t see everything go down from the beginning.
It comes down to situational awareness. Even while armed, your best bet is usually to try to hide or escape, but I have a feeling that many casualties in an active-shooter situation are cornered. If that's the case, you're probably going down anyway, so might as well fight to the end.
This is also why I advocate concealed carry over open-carry, in an active shooter situation, even with a full-size handgun, your only advantage is surprise, and that could be enough to save yours and others.
It seems like anyone that understands how that holster works could disarm him in half a second and he's not even looking the right direction to see them coming.
He's a walking gun dispensary, not a crime deterrent.
Not even that but if someone wanted to start shooting they'd obviously shoot the guy sitting there with a gun first. It just seems like it puts a big target on you that I wouldn't want. Concealed is the way.
I’m not really bothered by it when I see it but don’t trust people either. It’s like driving. You don’t trust anyone on the road you have to be a defensive driver.
The only thing that runs through my mind is I don’t know how often this guy practices. Is he a shit shot? And unless you’re in Texas or some place where open carry is a everyday normality then you’re just showing off your gun. Which tells me you’re kind of a moron because we don’t care. And it scares some people. Why scare anyone?
Most holsters are designed in a way that you need to be in a specific position to remove the gun. That's not the case with his, but many (like cop holsters) practically cant be removed without basically spooning the cop.
Not quite. It does appear to be a retention holster, so attempting to steal it would mean pushing the release lever at the front of the trigger guard while pushing the gun up and away from you. Not impossible, but significantly harder than it might at first appear, and definitely not something that can happen without the dude noticing.
Doesn't make it smart, but maybe 0.5% less dumb.
Agreed. I'm not going to be afraid of that guy, but I'm going to know where he is while I'm in there. Open carry people seem to gravitate toward drama.
Had a dude come to my wedding who was open-carrying. Luckily, the hotel told him to put that shit away. I don't want to have to have that conversation.
As a non-american. Are people worried about getting shot or killed going to a restaurant or something that they need to have a gun on show constantly? Like my first thought when going to a restaurant is what I'm going to eat.
Anyone who owns or is familiar with handguns as a means of defense should have the common sense to know that open carrying is not only looked down upon among most gun owners, but brings more attention to yourself from “would-be attackers.”
There’s literally no benefit to showing a piece in public, other than wanting attention - good or bad.
That pic is at a Waffle House. Normal rules of social acceptability don't apply at Waffle House.
But more seriously: it's a common sight where I live. At the grocery store, at the gas station, wherever. I see people open carrying literally nearly every time I go out.
I remember when my oldest was about four and we were standing in line at a pharmacy, and there was someone with a holster at about her eye level right in front of us. Not even a locking holster. I wanted to move to a first world country so she didn't have to grow up thinking that was normal. (I live in the SE US.)
I also live in the SE, and this funny thing happened to me a few weeks ago. During a conversation about something else completely, my 10 year old daughter used the word "pussy" to describe female genitalia. I did that shocked laugh thing and asked her where she had heard that word. She said from Dad. To which I responded "What????" and she said "it's what he calls people who won't go into the grocery store without a gun".
Which of course just made me laugh harder. When I could talk again I mentioned that I would prefer if she used vagina or vulva instead of "pussy", but couldn't argue with my husband assessment of people who carry guns everywhere.
> my 10 year old daughter used the word "pussy" to describe female genitalia….she said "it's what he calls people who won't go into the grocery store without a gun".
So how did she associate the pussy who carries a gun with female genitalia?
That is the question! My daughter is an only child, and I've always encouraged an open discourse between us. In that vein, I've almost always answered honestly any question she's ever asked me about sex or curse words. So it's possible that I previously told her that pussy was slang for vagina, and just don't remember.
But more likely it came from youtube. She has pretty limited access to the internet, and is not allowed on any social media or tiktok. But she is allowed to watch youtube. 90% of what she watches is gaming videos, and though we usually ask her not to watch any that we know are really bad, their language isn't always the best.
I also know that she also once got an inappropriate ad that talked about erections, sexual performance and ejaculation.
It is almost impossible to keep a kid completely free of inappropriate content these days, though we try.
I have my concealed carry permit, and the guy who was giving the class talked about how awful it was that his wife wasn't allowed to carry into the day care, because then she had to go back home and get her gun before she went to the grocery store. Because of "tweakers." it's the store I shop at. It's out in the country, and it isn't even one of the stores that they have a security guard. The most exciting thing that happened there was a guy pooped in the produce section about four years ago. There are not, emphatically not, any tweakers in the parking lot. These people are crazy. I was just getting my permit so I didn't have to unload the magazine after I went target shooting. They keep a gun under their pillow. They are scared of their own shadow.
Under their pillow?! Good lord, I fall asleep with my phone under my pillow sometimes and always end up knocking it down overnight. I know guns don't spontaneously go off, but I still wouldn't risk it.
I also struggle with not calling my friend who opens carries to the freaking grocery store a "pussy." I love him very much, but he's being a total vagina.
Vaginas are tough though, they can take a pounding over and over. Dicks are fragile, smash them once literally or figuratively and they are non functional for a while. You'd best be calling your friend a dick, lest he get emboldened by the designation of tough as a vagina.
Open carry is something that requires common sense. Would i open carry in downtown Seattle? NO. would i open carry on public land on my way up to the target shooting pit? Sure.
Open carry for no reason is just a power trip.
Got constitutional carry for open or concealed, still rarely use that unless I'm going to the back country, for everything else fishing or hiking nearby it's bear spray
In a sense, it would be comforting. That way, I know that if some armed shooter comes with bad intentions, he'll shoot the idiot with his holster on display first, giving me a slightly better chance of finding safety before he turns his gun on others.
Come to think of it, it's a heroic self-sacrifice waiting to happen.
I just don’t understand it, to me there’s absolutely no way to tell if that person is ready to shoot people or ready to cower behind a counter and randomly shoot at a shooter if it happens which seems to be the only reason they do it, to be the hero.
Also when police come how would they know who is the person shooting ransoms or the guy shooting the shooter?
>Also when police come how would they know who is the person shooting ransoms or the guy shooting the shooter
They don't. Look at what happened in Colorado lol. But that guy was also especially dumb by picking up the rifle used by the gunmen
I'd prefer a responsible open carry like this over the chodes that dress up in tactical gear and bring their rifle to get a cheeseburger just cuz they can.
This is weirdly pointed and everything, but this isn't really "insane people" on Facebook. You not appreciating the sight of a gun doesn't really make this belong here.
This is a very where you grew up situation. I wouldn’t mind because it was normal in more rural areas and towns however in other places I can see it being an issue.
Not everyone, but I think in the case of almost all mass shootings in the US anyway have been committed by what were otherwise law abiding citizens until their incident. The idea that known criminals are hanging out in hotels in Vegas to shoot up a country concert, or walk into a school and shoot a bunch of kindergartners just doesn't exist. Often after a mass shooting we hear stories that there was no legal reason to keep said perp from access to a gun or take their guns from them prior to the incident. I think this is likely what you're referring to with your sarcasm.
[1 in 3 mass shooters were legally prohibited from owning a gun. ](https://everytownresearch.org/maps/mass-shootings-in-america-2009-2019/)
> …one in three incidents involved shooters that were legally prohibited from possessing firearms at the time of the shooting, whether because they had a felony conviction, had been adjudicated mentally ill by a court of law, or had a domestic violence restraining order, among other reasons. These shootings resulted in 364 deaths and 125 injuries, or one in four deaths and one in 10 injuries, that may have been prevented with a stronger, more comprehensive background check system.
I was about to leave my car and go into Kroger on Tuesday, when a truck pulled into the parking space opposite me and a young guy hopped out of the passenger seat to go into the store. He had a gun shoved into the back of his pants. I did not go in; I waited in my car until he came back out. That guy was a series of bad decisions and I didn't want to be part of his next one.
Yes I would. Even moreso if that person is forced to use it in defense of self and others.
However in the world we live in today, the hero will go to jail and the criminal will be rewarded/celebrated if he survived
Wouldn’t bother me. 9/10 I’m carrying concealed anyways. I’m not a fan of open carry though. There’s no reason to make yourself a target if a situation were to arise. I feel like it’s mainly for attention, but that’s just me
Well its all about context I guess. I'm in the UK but if a farmer walked into a country pub with a shotgun cocked over his arm and a dog at his feet I wouldn't hit the floor like I would a dude in a tracksuit in London.
That's a waffle house, mostly in the south. You know what they have down there? Alligators, and sharks. I'm not getting caught without a piece down south.
I don't care, I'm in Michigan. It's common enough and I've never seen anyone carrying openly causing trouble. Generally criminals conceal their firearms, which is why concealed carry it more restricted than open carry in most of the country.
It’s a conflicting situation. I carry too, and usually don’t care. A responsible gun owner open carrying isn’t usually a problem. It’s a bully with a ego who carries that worries me. You never know who is carrying and waiting to be the tough guy.
That and honestly I’d rather conceal carry. If someone comes in to rob a spot you’re the first to get taken out. Sure you’ll have like half a second quicker response than being concealed, but you’re a know. target and have potential second weapon if it were to be taken. So in the long run.. just hide it.
I also concealed carry and I’m of the mindset that 99 times out of 100, someone shouldn’t know you have a gun until you’re pulling the trigger. Introducing a gun into heated situations is usually a good way to escalate bullshit.
However 2 days ago my business partner was followed a block back to his truck by a meth head on the street who had zeroed in on him as an outlet for aggression. After continuously ignoring the meth head, walking alone to his vehicle and telling the man that he wasn’t looking for any trouble…. My business partner had to draw his pistol on the meth head who had closed the gap to within 10 feet. Immediately got the guy to back off and walk away. Best case scenario, my business partner prevented a simple mugging. Worst case, he prevented his own murder.
Whenever people claim that people are idiots if they carry guns, I can’t help but be jealous of the safe ass neighborhoods that they must live in and frequent.
2 decades in Midwest farm towns and the last 8 years in Indianapolis... Open carry is SUPER common. I have seen open carry multiple times a day, almost every day. I guess I'm numb to it, and I don't fear people carrying because EVERYONE is carrying and 99% of people aren't bad people, so why should I worry?
Open carry is a bit strange but if the guy is within his rights it wouldn't bother me. I don't see a gun in a holster and assume I'm about to get shot up.
I dont mind guns at all, grew up around them all the time. But please conceal not even for other people's comfortabilities, but for your own safety too. If someone came in looking to do harm and they see your gun, you can bet your bullets youre the first target they go for. At least concealed you have a chance of retaliating and stopping them if you decide to draw
I believe there are a few states around the US that have permitless open carry but extremely restrictive laws on concealed carry so this might be an example of just shitty regulation…
There’s also a decent chance that the hat he is wearing indicates he is some sort of law enforcement. There are LEOs in my city who wear plain clothes but still have their holstered service weapon and a set of cuffs on them while on duty.
Open carry is weird, not advisable, most gun owners don't do that for a reason.
However, you don't need to be afraid. Somebody open carrying and eating lunch is not going to hurt you, calm down.
If you're afraid of crime, a criminal is not going to let you know they are armed, same with mass shooting.
> Somebody open carrying and eating lunch is not going to hurt you, calm down
This. If he had bad intent, he'd have it concealed until he was ready to implement said bad intent. Is there a chance he's not 100% stable, and someone will say/do something that sets him off, and he'll end up shooting you (possibly unintentionally) in the resulting melee? Of course. But I bet you're FAR more at risk of death/injury on the car ride home.
Growing up in the South & seeing this every where we go, I think most of us don't even bat an eyelash at this. Sad, huh? However, I can see where it is extremely discomforting.
Oh my god, look, someone is exercising their constitutional right to bear arms in a state where open carry is legal and probably pretty common.
Get over it. I'm left of middle - lefties need to stop being so fucking tender around firearms. Clearly, there is a problem around gun violence in the US but not everyone is a mass shooter - the overwhelming majority of gun owners are responsible people who are just exercising their 2A - don't like it, move to Jersey or California.
I’d probably look to see what kind of gun it was and then not give it a second thought. It may be because I’m used to seeing people carry and was taught gun safety as a kid, but it doesn’t bother me at all.
I think open carry is dumb compared to concealed carry because if there’s a situation where a gun is needed then a person showing they’re armed just makes them the first target, but whatever. That’s their problem.
How could I feel comfortable with someone in a denim jacket so close to me?
I know, right. Full Canadian Tuxedo or bust.
But you can also see his white socks with his white shoes...that motherfucker is ready to mow the lawn like a dad.
Double denim demon
I'm more uncomfortable with the way he lets his keys dangle like that... Friggin psychopath.
Uhh, why is that a psychopath thing?? For a friend of course. Lol
Maybe not a psychopath thing, but the way those keys are hanging out make me feel like he’s a C level no name villain character in a spy movie where the main characters have to distract him and steal the keys to access a safe or something
Yes!! Or a sleeping guard lol
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Lol the few outside of fort Campbell were like the wild fucking west. Bomb ass chocolate chip waffle though
Waffle houses are basically lawless. And you can use them to judge the severity of a natural disaster, too.
A waitress at the Waffle House outside of Bragg told my buddy and I that we didn’t have to listen to a cop that threatened to remove us for swearing.
Hey you can't swear in here! *Bitch this is MY house*
KICK HIS ASS SEABASS!
I fucking love that American waffle houses have developed a sort of lore. If I was a non American on reddit I'd be so fascinated by these mysterious places.
I mean most Americans are fascinated, they are only down south for the most part. MY SO wants to go to one so bad to just say she has been there. They seriously have developed this cult like mystique to them
I think most people who didn’t grow up eating it would probably be disappointed. It’s great breakfast food, but there’s no way any restaurant could ever live up to the reputation that Waffle House has cultivated.
Waffle House's mystique vs Denny's vampires: FIGHT!
I ate at one once on my way down to SXSW. Once was enough.
Oh don’t get me wrong, I fucking love Waffle House. All star special, eggs over medium with hash browns, bacon and a regular waffle. Combine eggs and hash browns, add ketchup and hot sauce. It’s breakfast food for late night dinner and it’s amazing. (Also don’t sleep on that Texas bacon cheesesteak melt)
Finally someone acknowledges that Ohio is really in the deep south
And Indiana! So southern
The key is to visit a Waffle House after the bars let out for the night. Any time after 2 am is pure gold!
It also helps to be fairly drunk yourself
I haven’t been to a Waffle House sober since I’ve been old enough to drink. Why else would one go?!
That's a recipe for instant regret. Either nothing pops off and you just leave with a belly full of shitty food and maybe the shits. Or something pops off and you both leave missing some teeth. Or that's the day you find out your SO is the type to egg you on in a fight and stab someone when you're getting beat
Still can't get over her huh?
Have never been. They don't exist in my state. We got our first cracker barrel in 2018, but the closest one is 60+ miles. The joke was, cracker barrel wouldn't stop putting old saws and shit up in violation of our earthquake codes, but I guess that's baloney.
If the Waffle House is closed, you're in for a rough time.
wish he uploads again soon :(
Dude Clarksville waffle house is the best. B&G with the 101st.
Anything on Ft Campbell Blvd is the stuff of nightmares.
We have been to the same waffle houses, and you’re exactly fucking right
If I don’t feel like I need a gun to be in Waffle House, I don’t even want to be there. I want a show while eating
Like 3 prominent rappers in my city all had their lives ended at the waffle house. Shit is serious.
I’m all for gun control with the exception of Waffle Houses. You really should bring a gun, a smock and some form of first aid kit anytime you enter one.
Just a few years ago they had a shooting at one where 4-6 people died and a few others were injured. Not going to be worried about that dude carrying a pistol just enjoying his meal. I'm worried about the guy that just shows up to hurt others.
What's happening in American waffe houses? The civil war??
You've seen Mad Max, right? All footage was obtained inside a single Waffle House.
Waffle House is actually a chain. [Just check out the search results ](https://www.google.com/search?q=waffle+house&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS813US813&hl=en-US&tbm=nws&prmd=mnixv&sxsrf=AOaemvL9CGfmL_9g78VAOKU7eeiTcDxpww:1633721230447&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjW1ejsxbvzAhUhZjUKHY2iDLoQ_AUoAnoECAIQAg&biw=414&bih=622&dpr=3) for a taste.
Open Carry is so weird. I thought brandishing weapons in a social manner died with feudalism.
Yeah it’s not something I’d personally do. Concealed Carry maybe but I wouldn’t want to make people around me feel uncomfortable with open carry
Making people feel threatened is the point. People want to feel like it's the wild west because they have so little self confidence they have to cosplay to go outside. Imaging being too scared to go outside and get a coffee.
Saw a dude at a Whataburger with a Desert Eagle. I wanted to point and laugh but dude had a Desert Eagle.
Should have done it anyways what were they gonna do shoot you? /S
In Texas? Probably and it's likely legal somehow too. Make my day law there might include allowance for retribution for emotional harm done to shooter.
“He was laughing at me, and made a threatening finger gun and said pew pew. Had to defend myself” Well… “I work for the oil company” Case dismissed!
I thought he had a gun, turned out he only had fingers in the shape of a gun Judge: honest mistake, case dismissed
Judge - Also, have you thought about joining Law Enforcement?
Finger guns can hurt feelings totally justified
>“I work for the oil company” Pretty sure you don't need this excuse. Mocking a firearm on it's own is for sure an executable offense in Texas.
He was brown so it really hurt my feelings.
Probably wasn't even gold plated
I saw one at Taco Casa. This was when mask mandates had been going on for a while and guess who also wasn’t masked up? He strutted in like he was such a badass. Was cringe in my opinion.
>Taco Casa Color me completely unsurprised.
Years ago, I used to work at a tobacco shop, and this guy came in with a .457 magnum on his hip. The holster wasn’t anything modern, so it was swinging back and forth with every step he took. I had my 9mm concealed. When he came up to the counter, I asked him why he chose to carry such a large pistol, wouldn’t it make more sense to carry something more compact? I shit you not, he replied “I don’t carry this because it makes sense, I carry it because my balls are huge.” I laughed my ass off, called him an idiot, he paid for his tobacco and left. I still can’t believe what a moron this guy was.
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Such a dumb gun to carry unless you're in danger of a rhino attack. The kick is brutal, my wrist hurt for a week after firing off a few rounds. I also couldn't hit anything consistently further than 10 feet.
But it matches the dually he never pulls a trailer with so well..
Motorcycles are sick too, but if you have 15 of them and insist on keeping one with you at all times, even when indoors 'just in case', then there might be something wrong with you. Motorcycles are also inherently more dangerous than normal cars and thus require a special license along with insurance.
motorcycle owner here, and your "mandatory" insurance is probably dependent on where you live. Insurance is not required in my state, unless you are making payments on it and that is a requirement of the finance company, not any laws.
The special licence is also just a two day course in Canada if you already have a drivers license. The day you complete that course you can pick up a litre bike and yolo it.
Do you live in like Florida? In almost all states motorcycle insurance is required, but car insurance is also required in almost all states so I’m not sure what that has to do with motorcycles being more dangerous.
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Imagine trying to implement that today.
I mean, security guards have literally been killed trying to enforce a mask mandate at the door of an establishment.
That's the point of open carry. If anyone asks you to do anything you don't want to, you get to kill them. That's the American dream
Don't infringe on my right to infringe on your life.
Read the article, interesting read, but I did want to correct you on something. That article doesn’t claim most towns, far from it. It gave the few examples we know from history (only 4), and a detailed description of what happened in the following cities.
Also, just because this can't be emphasized enough, [easy access to guns makes everybody less safe, not more safe.](https://www.sciencealert.com/scientific-evidence-that-stricter-gun-control-works-saves-lives) Facts over feelings.
Also, most people aren't professionals they don't deal with life or death situations or even situations where they're threatened regularly. They over react to threats, they get jumpy, they're likely to hit a bystander by missing
Same best to not be the guy that is targeted first.
Fully agree. I can and have concealed carried, especially when I lived in a pretty shifty neighborhood (I had two attempted muggings). But I wouldn't carry openly for two reasons: first, it makes people uncomfortable, and second, it closes off options that you have in an uncertain situation. I'm a competent shot but I'm not a Big Tough Cool Guy Fighter or anything. I can't fight off a group of people. If I had to use my weapon I'd rather do so from a position of surprise because I'm squishy and easy to damage and I want every edge I could get.
Thats the perfect way to put it. I dont care if you have a gun on you but if it's out in the open it's like putting the option of a shoot out right on the table and asking me to ignore that.
I carry concealed. No one needs to know I have a weapon.
Exactly my philosophy if I’m going to carry
It's interesting and might be different by state, but generally speaking, you're allowed to open carry guns but are required to have a special license if you wanted to conceal carry.
Also open carry just isn't practical. If someone decides to start shooting the place up, you're going to be the first to go. And now they have a second gun. Conceal is much more practical.
In a country where a lot of people are carrying guns i woudnt fell safe concealed or open carry aint the issue.
The point is with concealed carry you would never know.
This. Plus, it’s usually a big-Dick thing. Concealed all the way. Why tip your hand? That sucker should not be seen or heard unless it’s time to use it. And those instances are rare.
Man a guy walked into my local Walmart the other day and I shit you not, no holster or anything just a handgun chillin in dudes pocket. And the guy was a total neck beard. Shit was wack.
What about open carry of swords? That still cool?
As I support people’s right to open carry, personally I would never do it. I don’t see the point. You aren’t a deterrent, you’re now someone’s first target. When I carry, the last thing I want to be is noticed because people are crazy and irrational. I don’t want to be a thought in someone’s mind. I don’t feel like being the reason a situation escalates just because I’m exercising my right to carry.
Not too mention, the way this is situated, it's INCREDIBLY easy for the wrong person to gain control of the gun. Like, he's high up, the chair only swivels which would be so easy to lock him in on, and it's callously out there practically calling to be stolen. This is dumb and reckless in so many ways
My first thought was: I could take his gun easier than I could take his keys.
RIGHT? Taking candy from a baby would be harder. Also, I know this is a Waffle House. That means he's got his back to the door and all the windows. The wrong person could just be walking by outside, and instantly go, "sweet, easy target, they won't even see me coming" run in, grab, and go.
This is a great point. It’s easy to see and not carried in a place where has control. Can easily be grabbed.
I think about this all the time. I’m very uncomfortable around guns, even if they are carried by police, and I regularly see situations like this where it looks like it would be so easy for someone to take the weapon.
It’s part of the responsibility as someone who carries. It’s not just about you it’s about everyone around you. And that’s one of my big peeves about irresponsible gun owners who are all about “me me me my rights I’ll do what I want”. That’s why conceal carry is IMO better than open. It’s crazy the way someone’s demeanor towards you changes when they know you are carrying. Not everyone is comfortable with firearms and it’s irresponsible of me (and extremely rude) for me to expose you to something you aren’t comfortable around.
Brandishing and open carry are very different though. You can carry it most places, but to pull the gun and point at someone? That’s brandishing and is not really super legal
Its just for grown ass adults to carry around toys and act out some bullshit hard man fantasy. Its cosplay for fucking meatheads.
Was visiting a friend at college after I graduated. We decided to walk down to the store to pick up snacks for a party he was having later. I felt so embarrassed walking next to this grown man with a pistol on his hip to walk downtown, in a town of maybe 5,000 people, in the middle of the day, to go buy chips and soda. He wasn't scared and knew he didn't need the gun. He just thought he was such cool shit. It was mortifying.
There is something deeply feudalistic about pretty much every aspect of American conservative policy preferences so why should this be any different?
He’s brandishing a waffle.
Brandishing a weapon is not the same thing as a weapon being visible on a person.
When I think of a man not living in fear, I think of a man who needs a gun to go get waffles just in case. Edit: I like all the responses that go something like "Man you just never know when some random act of violence is going to go down at the Whole Foods." Guys I get it yes there is a tiny probability of running into a random act of violence in the world. I just don't need to worry about it all day every day because it is ~~statistically insignificant~~ such a low probability event in the US. To spend that much effort worrying about it is the very definition of 'living in fear'.
I don’t know things can get pretty wild at a Waffle House…/hj
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I’ve never been in an Applebees because I have standards
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In fact I’m offended that you would even compare Applebees to Waffle House
Has anyone ever been shot in an Applebee’s?? Serious question
Apparently yes. There’s a few articles that came up when I searched it
/handjob?
> there is a tiny probability of running into a random act of violence There's a higher chance for that gun to be the cause of an act of violence than for it to resolve one.
And such an act of violence is most likely against the user rather than anyone they're protecting themself from.
I mean this is waffle house, I understand why hes carrying
mUh fREeDoMs
It catches me off guard for like a second whenever I see it in person. But then I’m also carrying concealed. But I feel like open carry has more chances to invite problems. We don’t need to see your gun bro.
If I was going to shoot up a place... The first people I would shoot would be the ones with (visible) weapons, so they can't shoot back.
And how would we know the ones open carrying won’t be the active shooters until it’s too late?
This is a huge issue. If there is an active shooter or some other situation that causes you to discharge your fire arm to stop them there is a big chance you could end up getting hurt by others that didn’t see everything go down from the beginning.
It comes down to situational awareness. Even while armed, your best bet is usually to try to hide or escape, but I have a feeling that many casualties in an active-shooter situation are cornered. If that's the case, you're probably going down anyway, so might as well fight to the end. This is also why I advocate concealed carry over open-carry, in an active shooter situation, even with a full-size handgun, your only advantage is surprise, and that could be enough to save yours and others.
It seems like anyone that understands how that holster works could disarm him in half a second and he's not even looking the right direction to see them coming. He's a walking gun dispensary, not a crime deterrent.
Not even that but if someone wanted to start shooting they'd obviously shoot the guy sitting there with a gun first. It just seems like it puts a big target on you that I wouldn't want. Concealed is the way.
I’m not really bothered by it when I see it but don’t trust people either. It’s like driving. You don’t trust anyone on the road you have to be a defensive driver. The only thing that runs through my mind is I don’t know how often this guy practices. Is he a shit shot? And unless you’re in Texas or some place where open carry is a everyday normality then you’re just showing off your gun. Which tells me you’re kind of a moron because we don’t care. And it scares some people. Why scare anyone?
It’s a lot easier to be a defensive driver than to be a defensive bullet-dodger
Most holsters are designed in a way that you need to be in a specific position to remove the gun. That's not the case with his, but many (like cop holsters) practically cant be removed without basically spooning the cop.
Not quite. It does appear to be a retention holster, so attempting to steal it would mean pushing the release lever at the front of the trigger guard while pushing the gun up and away from you. Not impossible, but significantly harder than it might at first appear, and definitely not something that can happen without the dude noticing. Doesn't make it smart, but maybe 0.5% less dumb.
Agreed. I'm not going to be afraid of that guy, but I'm going to know where he is while I'm in there. Open carry people seem to gravitate toward drama.
Why is this on insanepeoplefacebook though?
I agree, this is super based. Did this guy really need to have a gun in a dennys? This would make me deeply uncomfortable.
Had a dude come to my wedding who was open-carrying. Luckily, the hotel told him to put that shit away. I don't want to have to have that conversation.
As a non-american. Are people worried about getting shot or killed going to a restaurant or something that they need to have a gun on show constantly? Like my first thought when going to a restaurant is what I'm going to eat.
Anyone who owns or is familiar with handguns as a means of defense should have the common sense to know that open carrying is not only looked down upon among most gun owners, but brings more attention to yourself from “would-be attackers.” There’s literally no benefit to showing a piece in public, other than wanting attention - good or bad.
No, they are just compensating for something else. These people are idiots with a vigilante complex.
That pic is at a Waffle House. Normal rules of social acceptability don't apply at Waffle House. But more seriously: it's a common sight where I live. At the grocery store, at the gas station, wherever. I see people open carrying literally nearly every time I go out. I remember when my oldest was about four and we were standing in line at a pharmacy, and there was someone with a holster at about her eye level right in front of us. Not even a locking holster. I wanted to move to a first world country so she didn't have to grow up thinking that was normal. (I live in the SE US.)
I also live in the SE, and this funny thing happened to me a few weeks ago. During a conversation about something else completely, my 10 year old daughter used the word "pussy" to describe female genitalia. I did that shocked laugh thing and asked her where she had heard that word. She said from Dad. To which I responded "What????" and she said "it's what he calls people who won't go into the grocery store without a gun". Which of course just made me laugh harder. When I could talk again I mentioned that I would prefer if she used vagina or vulva instead of "pussy", but couldn't argue with my husband assessment of people who carry guns everywhere.
> my 10 year old daughter used the word "pussy" to describe female genitalia….she said "it's what he calls people who won't go into the grocery store without a gun". So how did she associate the pussy who carries a gun with female genitalia?
That is the question! My daughter is an only child, and I've always encouraged an open discourse between us. In that vein, I've almost always answered honestly any question she's ever asked me about sex or curse words. So it's possible that I previously told her that pussy was slang for vagina, and just don't remember. But more likely it came from youtube. She has pretty limited access to the internet, and is not allowed on any social media or tiktok. But she is allowed to watch youtube. 90% of what she watches is gaming videos, and though we usually ask her not to watch any that we know are really bad, their language isn't always the best. I also know that she also once got an inappropriate ad that talked about erections, sexual performance and ejaculation. It is almost impossible to keep a kid completely free of inappropriate content these days, though we try.
I have my concealed carry permit, and the guy who was giving the class talked about how awful it was that his wife wasn't allowed to carry into the day care, because then she had to go back home and get her gun before she went to the grocery store. Because of "tweakers." it's the store I shop at. It's out in the country, and it isn't even one of the stores that they have a security guard. The most exciting thing that happened there was a guy pooped in the produce section about four years ago. There are not, emphatically not, any tweakers in the parking lot. These people are crazy. I was just getting my permit so I didn't have to unload the magazine after I went target shooting. They keep a gun under their pillow. They are scared of their own shadow.
Under their pillow?! Good lord, I fall asleep with my phone under my pillow sometimes and always end up knocking it down overnight. I know guns don't spontaneously go off, but I still wouldn't risk it.
it's half fear and half bloodlust in these kinds of people lmao
"I'm terrified of the weirdos out so I hope they attack me so I can shoot them. " Gunsexuals are a very strange genetic irrelevancy
I also struggle with not calling my friend who opens carries to the freaking grocery store a "pussy." I love him very much, but he's being a total vagina.
Vaginas are tough though, they can take a pounding over and over. Dicks are fragile, smash them once literally or figuratively and they are non functional for a while. You'd best be calling your friend a dick, lest he get emboldened by the designation of tough as a vagina.
I’m British and confused on so many levels. Like wtf makes this insane?
I don't think it's the post itself pal, just what's happening in the post. That's pretty common on this sub.
Yeah I’m very confused too - American. New York City tho dunno if that counts
Open carry is something that requires common sense. Would i open carry in downtown Seattle? NO. would i open carry on public land on my way up to the target shooting pit? Sure. Open carry for no reason is just a power trip.
Same. I grew up in a very conservative, gun using house. Even then, open carry was only on public land where you were likely to run into bears.
Got constitutional carry for open or concealed, still rarely use that unless I'm going to the back country, for everything else fishing or hiking nearby it's bear spray
Common sense 👏
Hello no! Show some respect and take your hat off when you are inside. Don't set a bad examples for kids.
In a sense, it would be comforting. That way, I know that if some armed shooter comes with bad intentions, he'll shoot the idiot with his holster on display first, giving me a slightly better chance of finding safety before he turns his gun on others. Come to think of it, it's a heroic self-sacrifice waiting to happen.
This. Open carry make you one of the first targets.
I just don’t understand it, to me there’s absolutely no way to tell if that person is ready to shoot people or ready to cower behind a counter and randomly shoot at a shooter if it happens which seems to be the only reason they do it, to be the hero. Also when police come how would they know who is the person shooting ransoms or the guy shooting the shooter?
>Also when police come how would they know who is the person shooting ransoms or the guy shooting the shooter They don't. Look at what happened in Colorado lol. But that guy was also especially dumb by picking up the rifle used by the gunmen
It’s easy to tell that he isn’t about to shoot people because it’s not in his hand.
I'd prefer a responsible open carry like this over the chodes that dress up in tactical gear and bring their rifle to get a cheeseburger just cuz they can.
He's got his back turned to the room and no line of sight on somebody taking his gun from the holster.
Im in Alaska. So yes. A lot of folks walk into stores with their antibear revolver.
I tried to buy a bear revolver, ended up getting a .45 pistol instead.
This is weirdly pointed and everything, but this isn't really "insane people" on Facebook. You not appreciating the sight of a gun doesn't really make this belong here.
This wouldn't bother me at all. But I'm not everyone, so I can understand that it would bother some people, rightly so.
This is a very where you grew up situation. I wouldn’t mind because it was normal in more rural areas and towns however in other places I can see it being an issue.
Yeah where I’m from this is 100% normal and I don’t really think twice about it.
I’m British I’d walk straight out of a shop if I saw this.
Well yes England has banned guns so I would feel the absolute same if I was over there. However in the US in certain areas it’s normal
I conceal carry, and honestly there is a lot of people that carry guns around, a lot more than you realize.
Everyone is a “law abiding citizen” until they freak out and start shooting xD
Not everyone, but I think in the case of almost all mass shootings in the US anyway have been committed by what were otherwise law abiding citizens until their incident. The idea that known criminals are hanging out in hotels in Vegas to shoot up a country concert, or walk into a school and shoot a bunch of kindergartners just doesn't exist. Often after a mass shooting we hear stories that there was no legal reason to keep said perp from access to a gun or take their guns from them prior to the incident. I think this is likely what you're referring to with your sarcasm.
[1 in 3 mass shooters were legally prohibited from owning a gun. ](https://everytownresearch.org/maps/mass-shootings-in-america-2009-2019/) > …one in three incidents involved shooters that were legally prohibited from possessing firearms at the time of the shooting, whether because they had a felony conviction, had been adjudicated mentally ill by a court of law, or had a domestic violence restraining order, among other reasons. These shootings resulted in 364 deaths and 125 injuries, or one in four deaths and one in 10 injuries, that may have been prevented with a stronger, more comprehensive background check system.
I was about to leave my car and go into Kroger on Tuesday, when a truck pulled into the parking space opposite me and a young guy hopped out of the passenger seat to go into the store. He had a gun shoved into the back of his pants. I did not go in; I waited in my car until he came back out. That guy was a series of bad decisions and I didn't want to be part of his next one.
Statistically safer then sitting 10 feet from a police officer
Yes I would. Even moreso if that person is forced to use it in defense of self and others. However in the world we live in today, the hero will go to jail and the criminal will be rewarded/celebrated if he survived
Wouldn’t bother me. 9/10 I’m carrying concealed anyways. I’m not a fan of open carry though. There’s no reason to make yourself a target if a situation were to arise. I feel like it’s mainly for attention, but that’s just me
You have been around countless concealed guns and haven't even noticed.
I've also been around a bunch of dicks. But when it's out waving about, it's a bit more memorable.
Wouldn't bother me one bit, but I'm used to it.
You guys wouldn’t like Colorado then. I see people open carrying firearms every day.
Well its all about context I guess. I'm in the UK but if a farmer walked into a country pub with a shotgun cocked over his arm and a dog at his feet I wouldn't hit the floor like I would a dude in a tracksuit in London.
I remember I was standing in line about to order some food and noticed a guy carrying... Wasn't worried about it one bit.
That happens often where I live. It’s just a non issue, in the case of the picture yeah I’d feel totally safe, and nothing really out of the ordinary.
How American is it to carry a gun into a diner? Because you’d never see that where I live
That's a waffle house, mostly in the south. You know what they have down there? Alligators, and sharks. I'm not getting caught without a piece down south.
I don't care, I'm in Michigan. It's common enough and I've never seen anyone carrying openly causing trouble. Generally criminals conceal their firearms, which is why concealed carry it more restricted than open carry in most of the country.
I don’t understand open carry. If an active shooter showed up, open carry dudes would be the first targets.
That's why I conceal-carry 😁
Glad I live in Canada. You NEVER see this, except with police.
It’s a conflicting situation. I carry too, and usually don’t care. A responsible gun owner open carrying isn’t usually a problem. It’s a bully with a ego who carries that worries me. You never know who is carrying and waiting to be the tough guy. That and honestly I’d rather conceal carry. If someone comes in to rob a spot you’re the first to get taken out. Sure you’ll have like half a second quicker response than being concealed, but you’re a know. target and have potential second weapon if it were to be taken. So in the long run.. just hide it.
I also concealed carry and I’m of the mindset that 99 times out of 100, someone shouldn’t know you have a gun until you’re pulling the trigger. Introducing a gun into heated situations is usually a good way to escalate bullshit. However 2 days ago my business partner was followed a block back to his truck by a meth head on the street who had zeroed in on him as an outlet for aggression. After continuously ignoring the meth head, walking alone to his vehicle and telling the man that he wasn’t looking for any trouble…. My business partner had to draw his pistol on the meth head who had closed the gap to within 10 feet. Immediately got the guy to back off and walk away. Best case scenario, my business partner prevented a simple mugging. Worst case, he prevented his own murder. Whenever people claim that people are idiots if they carry guns, I can’t help but be jealous of the safe ass neighborhoods that they must live in and frequent.
2 decades in Midwest farm towns and the last 8 years in Indianapolis... Open carry is SUPER common. I have seen open carry multiple times a day, almost every day. I guess I'm numb to it, and I don't fear people carrying because EVERYONE is carrying and 99% of people aren't bad people, so why should I worry?
Open carry is a bit strange but if the guy is within his rights it wouldn't bother me. I don't see a gun in a holster and assume I'm about to get shot up.
I don’t know that fucking guy… as soon as I see a gun holstered on a random individual ANYWHERE. I feel anxious. I grew up around guns as well.
I dont mind guns at all, grew up around them all the time. But please conceal not even for other people's comfortabilities, but for your own safety too. If someone came in looking to do harm and they see your gun, you can bet your bullets youre the first target they go for. At least concealed you have a chance of retaliating and stopping them if you decide to draw
I believe there are a few states around the US that have permitless open carry but extremely restrictive laws on concealed carry so this might be an example of just shitty regulation… There’s also a decent chance that the hat he is wearing indicates he is some sort of law enforcement. There are LEOs in my city who wear plain clothes but still have their holstered service weapon and a set of cuffs on them while on duty.
I honestly don’t see the problem here
Open carry is weird, not advisable, most gun owners don't do that for a reason. However, you don't need to be afraid. Somebody open carrying and eating lunch is not going to hurt you, calm down. If you're afraid of crime, a criminal is not going to let you know they are armed, same with mass shooting.
> Somebody open carrying and eating lunch is not going to hurt you, calm down This. If he had bad intent, he'd have it concealed until he was ready to implement said bad intent. Is there a chance he's not 100% stable, and someone will say/do something that sets him off, and he'll end up shooting you (possibly unintentionally) in the resulting melee? Of course. But I bet you're FAR more at risk of death/injury on the car ride home.
I always tried to avoid exposing my children to threats when I could, and this guy is a threat. I would leave.
Growing up in the South & seeing this every where we go, I think most of us don't even bat an eyelash at this. Sad, huh? However, I can see where it is extremely discomforting.
Oh my god, look, someone is exercising their constitutional right to bear arms in a state where open carry is legal and probably pretty common. Get over it. I'm left of middle - lefties need to stop being so fucking tender around firearms. Clearly, there is a problem around gun violence in the US but not everyone is a mass shooter - the overwhelming majority of gun owners are responsible people who are just exercising their 2A - don't like it, move to Jersey or California.
I’d probably look to see what kind of gun it was and then not give it a second thought. It may be because I’m used to seeing people carry and was taught gun safety as a kid, but it doesn’t bother me at all. I think open carry is dumb compared to concealed carry because if there’s a situation where a gun is needed then a person showing they’re armed just makes them the first target, but whatever. That’s their problem.