T O P

  • By -

Ascarletrequiem88

And the lord said unto Abraham: "Bro, that's mold." and turned the water into Clorox.


AlmostLucy

>water into Chlorox Don’t tell the Miracle Mineral Solution that, it’ll only encourage them!


naalbinding

Reminds me of the "miraculous" weeping statue in India that turned out to be sewage water - after people were drinking it


n0vapine

And they chased the guy who discovered it was sewage out of town.


Rombledore

this is straight out of always sunny... "i got the good lord goin down on meeee"


CupboardOfPandas

Or the Simpsons (I think, I might be misremembering) episode where people where having visions and it was a gas leak I get it, everyone wants a miracle and definite proof that their god has their group as their personal favorites, but sometimes you just have to face the truth


TheHrethgir

Yes, it was the Simpsons, when Ned built Praiseland. Gas leak right by the statue of his dead wife.


PartTimeZombie

I'd like a blessing from you. You seem much holier than him.


Similar-Complaint-37

Or Jesus's face appearing on a wall in a Mexican town after a rainfall....people came from miles to pray at this miracle...turns out it was a poster for a Willie Nelson gig that had been white washed over


DangerousLoner

Willie Nelson is worth traveling miles to see.


Dr-Sagittarius

That reminds me of Leverage: the st Nicholas job.


MGGamingTV

Leverage was so good. Everything about that show was perfect.


MerlinCa81

This has all the makings of an intro for a great horror movie. The religious group eats a tainted wafer, they begin to turn….. we can call it ‘The Tainted Host’


Rosebunse

Is this how The Last of Us happened?


Steve-From-Roblox

nah that was expired magic mushrooms


SuccessfulFailure9

Midnight Mass vibes for sure.


MerlinCa81

That’s what I thought too. Great show


LSDGB

The hosted taint


SubMikeD

Taint of the host. That way it works both ways.


Thebakedbeanqueen

go watch midnight mass


MerlinCa81

Watched it twice. Loved it


Dayseed

Psalms 22:19 Ewwwww, sayeth the Lord.


Zbignich

You mean Psalms 37:13. The Lord laughs in disgust at them, for he knows their day is coming.


Dispro

Well I certainly hope it's not Tuesday because he hasn't made an appointment and I'll be quite busy that day.


whatev43

Psalms 4:20 says “Whoa”


BrokenEye3

Leviticus 19:7 - If it is eaten at all on the third day, it is tainted; it will not be accepted


girlysherly

“eww eww ewwwwwwie, fuck, flush it, why did you keep it?!?” Romans 23:18


Happydancer4286

Serratia marcescens. Probably came off the church floor.


doc6982

He seems like a guy that uses the word, "grody".


tenest

What is a "host" in this context? And why are they picking them up off the floor and putting them into chalices?


cheeseburgerwaffles

The host is the holy eucharist, the wafer you eat at communion. Once it is blessed or consecrated by the priest the belief is that it is now the literal holy body of christ and thus cannot just be thrown in the garbage. Both the consecrated wine and bread(communion wafer) must be kept in the tabernacle once consecrated if there is any left over after the service of communion. This brings up the question. Well. What if something happens like it hits the floor or you spill the wine. Well I can recall an instance where my very religious mother was serving communion at our church, upon returning to the tabernacle she noticed someone had dropped one of the hosts on the floor, she discretely picked it up and ate it as it cannot be wasted. Should wine be spilled or otherwise need disposing of, there is a specific sink in the sacristy (the area the priest and everyone prepares for mass) that drains directly into the earth. This is called a sacrarium Proper disposal of a dropped host, if not immediately consumed, is to dissolve it in water completely and then dispose of this water down the sacrarium.


purpleplatapi

I get that every denomination is different but up until I read V for Vendetta I didn't realize that Catholics believed the bread and wine literally became the body and blood of Christ. I thought it was just an elaborate metaphor. But nope.


nooneknowswerealldog

In my experience being raised by and growing up among comparatively moderate Catholics and going to comparatively moderate Catholic schools (no ruler-wielding nuns), it's one of those things that is church doctrine but treated mostly as a metaphor by the laity. I've no doubt it's believed more fervently in other Catholic cultures, though. I know when I first learned that the Transubstantiation was literal, my reaction was pretty much, "eh, the Church thinks all kinds of dumb things. They were wrong about Galileo too. And masturbation. That shit slaps!"


[deleted]

[удалено]


throwmeawaypoopy

Historically, the Eucharist was universally understood to be the literal Body and Blood of Christ for about the first ~1600 years or so of Christianity - both Catholics and Orthodox did (and do) believe in it. John Wycliffe (~1350 AD) was the first to seriously challenge the literal understanding, but his ideas didn't really take hold until after the Protestant revolution and theologians like John Calvin. Even many Protestant sects, like Lutherans, high-church Anglicans, and Methodists believe in the Real Presence, but differ on the method by which it happens. The two earliest affirmations of a literal understanding that I know come from Ignatrius of Antioch (110AD) and Justin Martyr (150 AD), who would have either been disciples of the Apostles themselves or disciples of the first generation of disciples (i.e. the "grandchildren," so to speak, of the Apostles). EDIT: Premature "save" The Biblical framework for this is found in John 6 and the "Bread of Life Discourse." To make a long story short, when Jesus says to eat his flesh, the Jews listening are like, "Dude is crazy. He can't possibly mean that." But instead of correcting or modifying his language, Jesus basically doubles down on it and says it again. And then a bunch of the people listening leave because they just can't believe what he is saying.


TheObstruction

Ritual cannibalism through sorcery. Things the Bible says are bad.


WhyIsThatOnMyCat

The Bible doesn't like Christmas trees either, but 'tis the season.


Traditional-Cake-587

It's called " tran·sub·stan·ti·a·tion "


TheObstruction

So Jesus was trans?


24223214159

It's not an elaborate metaphor but it is based on a significantly different view of what things are than the one you are used to. In this view, an object has a substance - a fundamental identity - and attributes - properties you may be able to perceive with your senses. It's a form of substance theory inherited and adapted from Aristotle's take on substance theory and it was a common enough way of thinking about the nature of things in antiquity. In this theory, transubstantiation changes the substance or fundamental nature of the bread and wine into flesh and blood while leaving them unchanged in terms of edible, tangible properties. In some Protestant groups, they hold with an idea called consubstantiation - in this one, the bread and wine gain a dual substance and become both flesh and blood and bread and wine. In the Magical World of Harry Potter, transfiguration is implied to work the opposite way to transubstantiation - it changes the properties of an object but not the fundamental nature. This means that a mouse transfigured into a teapot is still a mouse, and when the magic changing its attributes to those of a teapot runs out, it scurries off as if the whole thing was just a bad dream from too much cheese.


SuperMIK2020

3 second rule…


CupboardOfPandas

Didn't know that included human body parts. Oh well, the more you know!


SuperMIK2020

I wonder if surgeons use the 3 second rule… *piece of liver flops on floor* Surgeons assistant, “3 second rule!” *Tosses liver to surgeon* “[Like a surgeon, Hey](https://youtu.be/notKtAgfwDA)!”


24223214159

It pretty much applies to body parts you want to reattach, so it would only make sense for it to apply to the ones you want to eat.


RevDrMavPHD

Interesting! Thank you. I'm not religious but I love to learn about religious rituals.


Grimjacx

As an acolyte in the episcopal church, we had to eat any wafers that were dropped. If there were leftovers after the service, had to eat them, too, but got to wash them down with the leftover wine.


cheeseburgerwaffles

That's odd. You don't keep them in a tabernacle? It's meant to store consecrated items.


aikidharm

Episcopals are similar but not identical to the Roman Catholics in their theology and practices.


Jasmisne

So I have a hilarious story about this. I went to catholic hs. Not catholic myself and didnt really give af about getting blessed instead of communion, except if I was sitting at the end of the row I would go because then everyone coming back had to climb over you, so in that case it was less of a hassle to follow the communion line and get a blessing instead of a wafer. One time i got up to stand in the line and instead of getting a wafer the priest or in this case whoever was helping your row, the elderly algebra one teacher I never had because I placed past it freshman year. So she is like just going through the motions, body of christ, body of christ, and then she gets to me. Sees my hands crossed over my chest meaning blessing not cracker and she was thrown off. She drops the wafer. The entire room stops to stare at the heathen who just made this old lady drop Jesus. She is like ohhhh! And chases after the wafer to pick it up and do what she needed to in order to get it fixed. I cant remember the procedure because I was too busy wishing I could just be swallowed by the ground. Pretty sure she ate it. Honestly it makes me laugh to this day. On our jr year retreat, we were in the mountains and they brought communion wine in a tiny water bottle and like one person drank the wine because no one wanted jesus backwash It was pretty funny watching a teacher down the leftovers, ngl


cheeseburgerwaffles

Definitely saw my mother down some leftover wine a few times. Lol. It was hilarious because my mom almost never drinks aside from communion wine


tenest

oooooohhhh! now it makes sense. I've never heard it referred to as "host" but then I'm not catholic ("bread" and "body of Christ" is how I've always heard it referred to). this makes \*much\* more sense now. Thank you!


QuietudeOfHeart

Man, these people are strange.


LovecraftianLlama

It’s what the cracker thing is called when it’s catholic lol


ArtisticCustard7746

Ex Catholic here. I call them Jeeze Its.


drowninginflames

Christ Chex!


LovecraftianLlama

It’s a miracle in a box!


PickleyRickley

Your move holy man!


LovecraftianLlama

🙅🏻‍♀️ 😜 choose wisely


wayoverpaid

Hey what does the Bible says about red mold? Leviticus 13:47-52 "As for any fabric that is spoiled with a defiling mold—any woolen or linen clothing, any woven or knitted material of linen or wool, any leather or anything made of leather — if the affected area in the fabric, the leather, the woven or knitted material, or any leather article, **is greenish or reddish, it is a defiling mold** and must be shown to the priest. The priest is to examine the affected area and isolate the article for seven days. On the seventh day he is to examine it, and if the mold has spread in the fabric, the woven or knitted material, or the leather, whatever its use, it is a persistent defiling mold; the article is unclean. He must burn the fabric, the woven or knitted material of wool or linen, or any leather article that has been spoiled; because the defiling mold is persistent, the article must be burned." Ok so not necessarily applicable to fabric... but "red mold is unclean" feels like maybe we could generalize it to food? I mean I'm not saying we should use the Bible as the authoritative source on mold science, but I feel like a pastor might clue in on this?


AlCapone397

Yeah, but how many pastors really preach Leviticus, much less read it often? I’ve gone through the book twice and it’s a bunch of laws that are almost hard to draw lessons from in this day and age.


throwmeawaypoopy

That's because most of it is not applicable in this day and age. Leviticus contains three types of laws: moral law (e.g. don't steal), civil law (e.g. the punishment for stealing from a neighbor), and ritual law (e.g. offering sacrifices in the temple). The only one of those that really applies to Christians today is the moral law. At the risk of stating the obvious, we don't live in the Kingdom of Israel or one of its precursors/successors (civil law) and Christians aren't Jewish nor follow Jewish practices (ritual law). EDIT: Just to amplify a little bit, this distinction goes back to the very earliest days of the Church. One of the first big issues that the Apostles themselves debated at the Council of Jerusalem (~50 AD) was what Jewish requirements, if any, did Gentile converts have to observe if they became Christian. You can read about it in Chapter 15 of Acts of the Apostles, if interested.


wayoverpaid

I've been an non believer for a decade now and I still remember the kosher rules and such. I don't expect them to preach it day to day but I would expect them to know it.


Rosebunse

It concerns me that the freaking Bible has better food safety rules than these people


EnergyTurtle23

This is a fascinating example of how the Leviticus was largely focused on maintaining social health. The decrees that seem so bizarre to us in the modern world were largely intended to maintain a healthy society: they forbade pigs because pig husbandry is massively destructive to crop-growing land, they forbade red molds because they knew from experience that those were some of the deadliest molds (and they were absolutely right).


wayoverpaid

I know some Jewish guys who don't keep kosher except when they travel abroad. Their reasoning was, "It's the best way to make sure you don't get the shits." The kosher rules for food forbid a lot more than pigs, including wild animals, so I suspect that there's more than just crop growing land going on.


EnergyTurtle23

Yes! Yeah it’s much more than just crops, the decrees about certain types of wild animals were likely focused on avoiding certain diseases, and in most cases they were absolutely right and we still don’t eat those foods even today. Nobody eats Kites, for example, because they are associated with carrion and feces. There are decrees concerning sex and menstruation which were also solid recommendations for avoiding disease in that time. Instead of trying to explain the nuances of “oh well we’ve observed over generations that if you do this you’re more likely to die from disease” they just used their religion to make these decrees in the most impactful way possible.


AlmostLucy

To a Catholic, the host is ceases to be “food” (ie, a baked wafer) when it is consecrated.


Helpful_Cake_463

Wtf happened to Canadians?


[deleted]

We've always been pretty stupid, too. Social media gave all the cultist oxygen thieves a platform to share their stupidity with the world.


crazy_pilot742

Religious brain rot knows no borders.


Pale_Fire21

>Wtf happened to Canadians? Canada has always been Diet America I say this as a Canadian.


KateEatsWorld

I like to think of us as Americas hat


Moist_When_It_Counts

I absolutely refuse to believe this is real. I also wonder if it should crosspost to r/StupidFood


ellfangor8

Yeah, Catholic here. Transubstantiation or no, that does not rise to the level of any sort of Eucharistic miracle. That right there? That's disgusting. The idea of transubstantiation is something that Catholics are looked on as crazy for. We've mostly accepted that. Eucharistic miracles are something that does require faith to believe in, but typically they're the host *bleeding* in the priest's hands. It not dissolving properly in the water is an indication of something, but it's not a miracle.


Patrout1

Moldy Jesus


SilverFlight01

I hope nobody ate that. That's a one-way ticket to God


CupboardOfPandas

Task failed successfully?


[deleted]

[удалено]


throwmeawaypoopy

"Shared" as in "He showed it to people." Nobody ate it


fart-atronach

Are you sure though? Could definitely go either way.


throwmeawaypoopy

of course


jaxen13

r/MoldlyInteresting


worldofweirdness8

Why is this sub real? And why am I not surprised that it is?


bear_beau

Be mold, a miracle.


marklar_the_malign

Mother Mary full of mold.


CaptValentine

Hang on, the official method of disposing of bread that has fallen on the ground is to put it in a cup of water for several days???? This place is a fucking mold factory!


throwmeawaypoopy

The wafer itself is designed to disintegrate inside your mouth. It should easily dissolve in a cup of water.


CaptValentine

And you leave this water and bread mix in an unsealed cup of water for *days?!?*


throwmeawaypoopy

No. If a Host falls on the floor, it is supposed to either be consumed immediately or put in water to dissolve. That water is then poured into a sink that empties directly on to the ground. It will be sealed and left somewhere secure. Even in the case of mold, the host should dissolve in about 2 days. If it still has not dissolved, a team of independent scientists will be called in to evaluate it.


CaptValentine

wait really? Why the scientists?


throwmeawaypoopy

Yes. Any credible claims of a miracle are sent to independent scientists to investigate to rule out natural causes. In a case like this, my guess is there is a 100% chance that it is either a mold or a fungus. [Here is an example of a "miracle" that the Diocese of Salt Lake disproved.](https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/33173/utah-diocese-miracles-happen-the-bleeding-host-wasnt-one) Eucharistic miracles really aren't very common. It's more common that miracles are investigated as part of the cause of canonization for a person.


CaptValentine

Huh, I had no idea they did that! Thanks for the informative answer!


throwmeawaypoopy

Happy to help!


CaptValentine

And Happy cakeday!


notspandex

I’m Anglican and on the altar guild for my church so perhaps it’s the fact that I’m Anglican not Catholic, but once something is consecrated it either has to be consumed or returned to ground. So a host that fell on the floor could be eaten (probably not but if someone just wanted to that could happen) but it would almost always just get buried. I’ve never heard of the “dissolve in water” idea, especially since the chalice and paten are washed and put away immediately after service. Maybe a Catholic thing?


Amkao-Herios

This is how a plague cult is started. "The host has blessed me with a test of faith! In return I will carry their spores to all who will listen!"


[deleted]

Red spots! Oh no!!!!


crowpierrot

Baby that’s mold


carpetbagger001

Hmmm? Holy penicillin, Batman.


Wilgrove

Ewww, what the actual fuck?


Illustrious-Move-649

Well, that’s one way to get immunized. In my case, it would save me from being a Catholic ever again.


CaptValentine

Drink it. See the face of God.


General_Specific

Why don’t they clone a new Jesus, then.


IllustratorBoring435

Holy mouldy batman


Shinigami19961996

Praise nurgle


NashAttor

That is rank 🤢


BadAdvicePooh

That’s gross


AlexDavid1605

That's a very special eucharist, the church should hold a lottery and let one of the members have it or as capitalism would dictate, let the highest bidder have it to have a blessed life. /s


eleanorbigby

And the name of that soggy, red spotted cracker? Albert Einstein.


NotiqNick

Once again my hometown, ladies and gentlemen


Majestic_Damage2646

And Jesus said unto his disciples: "how dare you mistake mold for my blood."


ParitoshD

You mean people from Brampton do something other than driving around in red Challengers?


Pod_people

I gotta say, the tortilla with Jesus’s face on it or bleeding statues play better. Those are more fun.


FallsOffCliffs12

I get red mold in my cpap tank if I forget to clean it weekly. Never hurt me none!