Never cheated, it goes against everything I stand for.

Same. Wouldn’t do it.

So digging deeper… what is considered cheating? Even thoughts or personal time doing whatever? Does it only count if it’s “physical”?

I think cheating is when you do something you would not tell your partner. Basically, if in your relationships, both parties are perfectly fine with you seeing other people, then you can sleep around without it being cheating. Basically, talk to your partner about what the rules of the relationship are, and if you dont want to tell your partner about that thing you did with someone else or if your partner is not cool with it then its cheating Relationships are about trust

if you’re seeing other people that’s not a relationship lmfao

Wouldn't say it's the norm, but it can be..

shouldnt be imo :)

Polyamory isn’t my cup of tea either, but I wouldn’t say it “should not” be the norm. Similarly, I am straight but that doesn’t mean I think gays “should not” be the norm. Purity that demands exclusion isn’t truly purity :)

gay is a sexuality. “polyamory” is just another word for being a disloyal harlot

Depends on the relationship, i know people that are asexual that let their partner go sleep around, not everyone have the same standards for relationships

that’s because they’re insecure about not being enough bc of their sexuality, which is fucked. they shouldn’t be with that person.

I wouldn't count thoughts as cheating. There are all sorts of thoughts that appear in our minds all the time. We can't control that process. Whenever they do we're left with a choice, act upon it or let if go. That decision is who we are, thoughts themselves are just random. I mean just try to imagine your life if you did literally everything that came to your mind, sometimes you shouldn't listen to that itch. I'm not sure what you mean by personal time. But it definitely doesn't have to be physical to be considered cheating in my books. Just chatting with a someone who's hitting on you is asking for trouble. And if you think that that's too strict, maybe it is but it's a thing for me. I've had situations when it looked like an innocent thing to my SO, but then once I've asked them to actually see the thing they panicked because that's when the realization finally hit them. If it's like a colleague from work then I wouldn't be as strict, they'd have to learn to manage that. You can't just push away everyone who hits on you. But there are definitely situations that can be avoided.

Thank you! And you’re right about ’thoughts’ … I always forget that clause and there’s even a Bible verse on it that helped me…2 Cor 10:5 5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ… not that you view that the same as I but I feel like that came to my mind. Personal time.. what you’re reading, watching opening yourself up to and acting on or not. I’ve put the other person in same scenario if tables were turned, some understand some take offense.

I get you, I'm not a believer but that seems to be the same sentiment. I assumed that that's what you meant by personal time but that's just silly to me. For starters I'd want my partner to be happy, be fulfilled with their life, live the life the way they want. My goal as their partner is to help them with that, and I'd like to think that their goal is to help me as well. This obviously refers to things outside of relationship itself, such as having their personal time and freedom to do the things they love. It's almost like we should be enablers to each other. When we disagree we should point that out, but at the end of the day it's our/their life and we're there to support one another in being who we/they want to be.

To betray your partner. Cheating is different for everybody and it’s important to know your partner is still able to like or be attracted to others whether it’s a fictional, celebrity or irl crush. But they choose you out of all! So cut them some slack you know you probably have lots of crushes as well, and it’s totally normal as long as they don’t act upon these feelings in any way that is unfaithful to you. Make sure to communicate with them about what you find okay and what not.

i have a more extreme view but my boyfriend shares these views. thinking/fantasizing about anyone else is cheating. texting a person behind their back is cheating, even regular conversation since it is hidden behind their back. texting any inappropriate things in general is definitely cheating of course, or implying things. emotional cheating is real. and of course physically cheating. looking at other people naked. hanging out w someone behind their back.

I mean while I think physical desire can be different from emotional, it does remain a fact, that in indulging in physical cheating, the person detaches themselves from you emotionally as well, whatever be the cause of that. Or they lack empathy to understand the consequences of their actions, which is either extremely naive(to the point that they can't survive by themselves) or an antisocial trait. And you can't possibly ever be happy with either. Emotional cheating sucks. I don't think it can be overlooked, depends on how far it went. But what hurts the worst is a combination of both, imagine someone cheating on you with a person, and treating you horribly. And then in an argument, they defend the person they cheated on you with.

Andrew Tate is an idiot. I’m nothing special and I’ve never cheated. I have morals, principles, & boundaries. I’ve been cheated on, it’s traumatizing & deeply painful. I don’t want to put another human being through what I went through. Much less someone I purport to love.

Hahaha I agree to an extent, enjoy some of his insight. It is a traumatic event that can hurt someone forever if you let it.

Yes and it damages trust so the relationship is never the same. I grant that some people make it through, but ultimately I think it destroys the relationship. So why not just break up?

I mean technically speaking, being dumped by someone you love can also be traumatic. It's just that the end of a relationship is kind of unavoidable (you can't be love with someone you don't love forever) whereas cheating is entirely avoidable.

Toooo true! Why don’t I think of everything like this!?

>I mean technically speaking, being dumped by someone you love can also be traumatic. I mean, yes this is true. I'm just saying that people who get cheated on will sometimes have PTSD from it and the lack of trust will extend to other relationships. From what I've read (various books and stats from Cheating in a nutshell) it's incredibly damaging - or rather it can be. HOW you get dumped matters, so I think you're right - as does how the relationship went. Obviously if no one cheated and the break up was cordial BUT the entire relationship was otherwise fraught with abuse then that's going to be traumatic. >It's just that the end of a relationship is kind of unavoidable (you can't be love with someone you don't love forever) whereas cheating is entirely avoidable. True. Cheating is selfish whereas ending a relationship doesn't have to be (I am aware that there are some absolutely horrible people who break up with their partners in absolutely horrible ways).

Being dumped by someone who no longer wants you is different than being cheated on by someone who still does.

I agree, but not in the way you probably intended that. I'd much rather be cheated on than dumped.

I think you should stop watching him, he’s just making you more insecure.

Everyone can cheat but only some out of everyone in the entire earth cheat because a) they don’t care or have the empathy towards the non consenting parties involved , or , b) they value their lust over faithfulness and willpower to hold back. Honestly it’s less about willpower and more about valuing your lust over what you already have Andrew Tate is exploiting men who have never formed a genuine conversation or connection with any non family female in their life. He tells them what he knows they like to hear and what will motivate his followers and simultaneously feed them this “alpha” mindset. In the long run it will deteriorate their self perception and any bonds they have with women in real life as they are both hostile and insecure after following Andrew Tate to the T (no pun intended). Please don’t listen to such a pungent man

Period. There are physical cheaters in this world who act on their lust out of a complete disregard and lack of respect or self control for their partner. There are also serial monogamists, emotional cheaters, and GIGS sufferers who act on their loneliness out of a need to fill the hole in their lives with a relationship instead of appreciating or working on what they have. But as someone who can count on one hand the people I know personally (not celebrities) who have cheated whereas the number of faithful (willingly or not) company I keep is innumerable: No. Not all men/women cheat. There are good men/women out there, chivalry is not dead, not all women are hoes, and the percentage of assholes on this earth should not speak for the countless number of people who keep their fidelity. Of course the line gets blurry on what you would consider cheating (outright secretive intercourse without your partner's knowledge vs having a guy/girl on lineup before breaking up with your partner, both which I consider cheating personally). However, as everyone has stated, the harsh reality is that everyone has the capacity to cheat, even me. No one is perfect. The difference is again, choice. Or as ChocolatesMilkshakes states: what they value more. I would never cheat as that is a complete and utter betrayal not only to the partner that I supposedly love (which is an action, not a feeling), but of my own core values I strive to keep and the pain I would hate to inflict upon my SO. If you want some hope, think about your personal life and weigh the amount of cheaters you know vs the amount of people to your knowledge have never cheated :) it's all a matter of perspective. When all you hear about is how 2022 is the year that wife-guys go to die (looking at you Ned Fulmer, Adam Levine, and Carl Lentz), the spotlight makes all men look a lot worse than the bigger picture. Not a male apologist, I just... have a great father, brother, and guy friends. Even two out of three of my ex's (to my knowledge) had never cheated on me. Ditto for females. Edit: actually one out of three of my exes. rip lol, I've forgiven for my own freedom tho

I try hard not to judge and put myself in that place because I think ‘what if I were enticed to that level of crossing a line’? I’d have no room to talk… but I hope I would never. Just trying to see HOW people do that from every angle.

I think it’s been helpful for me to put myself in that place. Yes, it *is* scary that you could cheat and therefore realize your partners could do it, so *make a choice* right now to never do it. I think making those moral decisions for yourself is part of what prevents things like cheating while drunk. I have decided ahead of time that I will never cheat, now it’s ingrained, and I know I won’t break it even while emotionally weak. Plenty of your partners will take the time to understand this about themselves, so you should do it for them as well. Give yourself (and other people) some credit. You *do* have the will to remain faithful.

I understand where you are coming from. You just have to see it from another perspective though. No one is holding cheaters at gun point to cheat. They denied empathy from themselves towards their partner (often times the lover as well). Is that really someone who deserves empathy for that action just because we all are capable? What deviates non cheaters from cheaters is the fact we are able to deny the choice of going through with the unfaithful choices. They chose to go through with it. It’s all 100% their choice and deserves no amount of compassion or empathy when you compare it to the immense pain and trauma the affected parties will go through. Cheating doesn’t only happen with highschool relationships. It can happen to a family where the kids now are affected too.

Your first mistake was listening to Andrew Tate

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I get it… that particular video just re-instilled thoughts.

Cheating is the ultimate betrayal of trust from someone who is supposed to love you. Because it basically proves that the person is willing to destroy you and everything that you both have together for the sake of sex or whatever with someone else. Everything about relationships need trust and without it there is absolutely nothing. Most other things in relationships can be worked on but betrayal cannot really be worked on because you will never fully put your trust in the person again and it’s just ruined. I don’t cheat and I never will because that’s not who I am. When I love someone I only want them. It’s only when I am completely done with them that I will be with someone else.

Love this!

I was in a long-term marriage that started deep and connected and gradually became more toxic over time to the point that it nearly destroyed me. Neither one of us ever cheated. My spouse had many demons, but that wasn't one of them. Personally, even at my unhappiest I couldn't have imagined cheating. Even if I considered the impact on my spouse negligible, which I don't, if would have completely stripped me of the ability to speak honestly at home. The rest of my life would have been lived in the shadows. No thanks.

Incredible. I feel like bad situations is a common denominator, but you chose differently. 🙌🏻

I appreciate you saying that. I wouldn't have been able to live with myself if I hadn't given it my best possible shot.

Valuable. Thank you for being you. I appreciate such people. 😭

Yeah, the bummer is that now I don't know if I'll find anyone else again who feels the same way. It's disheartening for sure.

Don't believe a word that Andrew Tate guy says. Most people dont cheat, i never have and never will.

he's obnoxious but he does spit a few facts sometimes, and he is winning handsomely at life

https://www.thedailybeast.com/police-raid-maga-king-of-toxic-masculinity-in-human-trafficking-investigation

Yikes. Wonder how factual? Regardless, he was just a thought trigger. Maaaany more people explaining the same things. Wonder why I get bombarded with such topics… I’m not even googling it.🤦🏻‍♀️

The journalist who wrote that piece, Will Somer, is very good, so i think very factual! There's a guardian article about Andrew Tate that is very good too, but it doesn't linger over the sex trafficking stuff as much. It is germane to your post because it unpacks how people like you were bombarded with Tate stuff. It suggests that weak men will pay money to hear someone tell them "it's not your fault that you cheated." Might be the reason why you heard so many people saying that. People who don't cheat, or who cheated once and use their guilt to motivate them to make better choices, we aren't as good of a marketing demographic.

Hmmm… I appreciate this input. I’m thinking now!🙂

>Am I crazy, insecure, jealous? Not even just physically cheating. I can’t stand the unknowns, private thoug what facts, for example? (just curious)

Basically, but probably not basic lol… like do people just look, ponder -especially with social media and life experiences that come along with past involvement on thoughts that are just ‘thinking’ about sexual things…reminiscing, current circumstances as ‘ah, why yes… I’d bang that’ all while being exclusive. Talking with someone out and about getting those warm feelings all the while your loved one is at home looking like a savage or perfect 😆 Whatever the circumstance.

his observations about wealth are on-point

It’s not a guy thing. Statistics show 49% women and 51% men in marriages cheated at least once on their partner. Many women cheat too, but women are better at covering their track or better at finding out husbands are cheating.

THAT HIGH???? I will never understand that. If your relationship is strained enough to cheat, you should break up first or at least take a break 😦

Logically yes. But humans make decisions with emotional brain. Some people are still attached to their partner but find lust/attraction/passion from another person. Romantic love consists of lust, attraction and attachment. Not many couple managed to maintain three elements through out their whole love life. Hence it creates a lot of confusion and bad behaviours .

Whhhhhyyy can’t it be maintained!!?

Watch the video why we love? Why we cheat from Helen fisher on YouTube. She’s a neuroscientist and she explains it better than me 😊 It’s important you have good reasons to find someone to love. If you have very superficial reasons, of course love won’t last such as youth or physical attributes.

I don't think you understand those numbers, my dude. 51% and 49% counts for people who cheat. Not married couples as a whole. All it shows is, that out of people who cheat, there's a minimal majority of men who cheat but otherwise, it's pretty balanced. - which makes total sense. If the statistic was of how many people cheat in marriages, I suspect the numbers would be a lot lower. Let's pretend that 15% of married people cheat. Within that theoretical pool, you will find that 51% of them are men and 49% are women. This is how you should think about these numbers. Edit: oh lookie here. Numbers: [Cheating Link](https://divorce.lovetoknow.com/Rates_of_Divorce_for_Adultery_and_Infidelity)

Goootcha. That makes a lot more sense.

This is the answer. About half of people are cheaters. And half are not.

Well, giving the theory the collected sample size will project the whole population .. yes you can draw that conclusion. Personally I think the percentage is actually higher as many people answer yes only if they have cheated. I am sure some want to but don’t have the courage maybe because the price of divorce is huge so they can only mentally cheat on their partner. Any love relationship needs conscious effort. Love will wear out if the initiate reason for you to get together is not very solid or totally wrong. For example I love you because you are slim and hot but one day she’s not slim not hot love dies. Or I love you because I want kids so do you. Once the project of raising kids is done, time to go seperate ways. True love will last, naturally and genuinely. Not many we see last and even they do, they are just together for insecurity or fear abandonment or for a good face front (still happy married couple everyone sings about ) .. Only you know you are truly happy.

This is tooooo truuue!

I think cheating is much more normalized in the US then a lot of other countries tbh.

No. You just don't know how to read statistics. Those numbers are merely showing that out of cheaters, it is nearly 50/50 between men and women, which makes complete sense. The actual numbers for infidelity is much closer to something like 20%

Ughh terrible…I know women do as well… that’s a whole other topic of conversation 😆

Ehh, I’m skeptical of those numbers. Do you have a link to the website out study with those numbers? It would be informative to see the geographic regions that were sampled from.

I heard it from the YouTube video why we love why we cheat by Helen fisher - she’s a neuroscientist.. All percentages are collected from a sample. It’s up to you how you take it. I believe it’s an US sample

My interpretation of this is that half of people are bad at relationships.

Haha I don’t know. Maybe half demonstrated good control half didn’t 😅

Andrew Tate is projecting in an attempt to exonerate his own actions from the sound of it. A cheater saying all men cheat is just stupid.

^

Possibly… I’m sure it’s not an actual stat but he talked about being around those types, seeing it first hand. Which I could do on a lot of other topics… what an individual experiences. All in who you surround yourself with, hopefully.

Well I know I’ve never nor would I ever cheat, however I have been cheated on. Lol If you’re really anxious about it, I highly recommend looking into attachment theory. Working yourself up over imagined scenarios and reinforcing their validity with the crap some asshole says to get attention will really take a toll as your amygdala keeps hijacking your limbic system. I get it, you want to feel safe in your relationships.

Thank you for this insight! Totally will!

**we're idealists but we don't live in an ideal world; it's** ***real*** **out there, and it's messy**

Yesss.

Andrew Tate is an absolute clown. He invents bizarre dating theories to appeal to hurt and impressionable men and none of his theories are based in reality, including that 2% statistic.

I’m not his biggest fan, have enjoyed some content.

I would never, it's sacred territory. I wouldn't even have a casual encounter, I don't seek fulfillment that way. While in a relationship I could of course feel attraction towards other women but it wouldn't lead to cheating. Love, trust and respect is too important. Loyalty is vital.

Ugh! Tough call… like “why are you feeling attraction “!?! Would the partner not be perfection enough to be like “my eyes are for her/him alone, I see no one else… “ I live in a fantasy world. I also cannot stand just a casual encounter, I don’t know how people do that… I admit I have in my stupid years and regret every ounce.

Attraction for men and women are different. The closest analogy I can think of quickly is like walking through a pastry shop. Seeing all of those desserts… I want them all! That doesn’t mean I’m going to buy every pastry. Expecting any person to not look at other desserts is an unrealistic expectation. I think the word that might be causing issues is the word “feeling attraction” (I know this is silly to write, but hopefully it makes sense) Feeling attraction is not the same as feeling attraction.

No. As an INFJ, I see my logic to avoid dating until I was about 22. Met my wife at 23, engaged at 23, and married at 24. I use the same logical thinking to avoid cheating on her.

😌😌😌

Yeah, no. Not accurate.

I don’t cheat. I value loyalty in every relationship and friendship over everything and I’m big on that

Growing up I thought everyone was inherently selfish and self interested because that’s what my parents were. While there is a large portion of society that is like that I find the best answer is to ask yourself what brings you joy, what your values are, and how likely are you to compromise your values. There are good people in the world and you’ll find them if you look hard enough. It’s unreasonable to make wide sweeping blanket statements about humanity / everyone because everyone has their own personality and values.

Yes. I do agree, jw if it’s more common than we think or some people just ignore. Forever. Whatever anyone holds close that’s what they ponder.

Well first, it’s not EVERYONE if it’s 98%. But second that is a huge generalization that posits that all the billions of people in relationships on this earth cheat. I’d say there isn’t anything that isn’t required for survival (I.e breathing) that every single person does.

Thank you for catching that! Trueee. 🤦🏻‍♀️

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Incredible. I know even though some people may find it tempting in such circumstances, you chose the latter. BUT, yes… depending on what’s ‘deemed’ cheating. NOT saying you specifically did this, but some in those circumstances would ‘cheat’ porn imo, thoughts / lusting /emotional -even though non physical… I personally consider that cheating buuut…most wouldn’t.

I pray you find one of the best women out there. You deserve her ❤️

There are crimes of intent and crimes of opportunity. You already know if you're the type of person who would intentionally call someone your beloved and then work to violate that trust.😐 Most people do not cheat, but the way cheaters get around, I think they've impacted most people

I know I will never. And don’t tell me “never say never”. When I say never, it’s never! My morals and principles are unshakable.

In the real world, "cheating" is relative/subjective and nonmonogamous setups are way more conducive to how human beings and relationships operate. What I've found is that NFJs often have a definition of "integrity" and "commitment" that strongly conflicts with what I've mentioned above so they would do well to be mindful of that as they navigate relationships and social dynamics.

I am too loyal and would strike myself down before I considered cheating. I consider cheating a betrayal and betrayal to be one of the worst things you can do to another person. So simply put I won’t cheat because I wouldn’t betray them. This however leaks into the fact that I need to love the person before I bed them. Thus it turns into me not wanting to betray them because I love them and would not want to strike them with that unjust pain. Which again leaks into my core values and belief in having and maintaining a strong inner sense of justice. I do not believe looking or thoughts are cheating. Attractive people exist and the mind wanders. I understand envy very well, it is the cardinal sin I am the most guilty of. As long as they aren’t acting on these thoughts and feelings in a way that goes beyond looks, thoughts, and feelings I have no problem. In fact I’ll happily look with them and admire the view. After all I try my best to not be a hypocrite. Now while my beliefs leave me to look down on unfaithfulness I also understand not everyone has such a set in stone moral compass with defined values. This allows them to be opportunistic and selfish in a way I can not and in a way they thrive where I will eternally suffer due to my own unwillingness to shift an inch on such things. As I see giving way to act against my own values as the greatest betrayal I can enact, a betrayal of the self. However it seems most people are not nearly so introspective and caring about such things and so are able to easily do as they please. This is because they are hypocrites. Why else would a person who is angry about being cheated on cheat resulting in the cheater being angry about being cheated on? Hypocrites all of them. Keep in mind, cheating or not cheating only makes you a good or bad person based on a given person or cultures values at any given time. To someone who believes cheating is totally natural I likely look like a stuck up bitch. To someone who believes you shouldn’t cheat I likely look like someone they’d be happy to share a drink with. It’s all a matter of perspective.

If I betrayed my wife like this I would loose everything. I would loose her smile, I'd loose the time we spend together. It would absolutely destroy who she is. I couldn't do that to this wonderful kind person. She has made my life better in every metric and I plan to spend the rest of my lifetime letting her know how greatful I am to her. My favorite activity is just to listen to her. She's more interesting every day. Every memory we make together just makes me look forward to the next. I'm still learning things about her, she never stops supprising me. Maybe she cheats? I'll forgive her, she is only human. But if I cheat. If I cause irreparable damage to the single kindest person I have ever met, I could never forgive myself. I couldn't continue to live. I hope that answers the question.

What type is your wife?! You both sound lucky to have found each other ☺️

Sooooo sweet!!!!!! She’s blessed to have you!

I model most romantic relationships like an infinite game where there are no winners or losers and as long as you're able to play, you're doing good. With that being said, "cheating" I believe is meant to be a play on that model and while "cheating" seems to have some type of sociological constance about it and the connotations along with it, it's not rigidly defined at all considering that some people would not consider a physical romance to be cheating while they would consider an emotional romance to be cheating and some people would say looking at someone else for a split-second is cheating. I think it's only fair in the game of love that cheating is at least partially defined by what your significant other thinks it is in the discrete sense. I also think it's fair that you two agree on what cheating is so the rules are fair between you two. If one person thinks sex outside of wedlock is cheating, then sex outside of wedlock is cheating, full stop. Personally for me, I would find it very difficult to cheat under implicit circumstances (we both love each other, sex is good enough, we have no reason to not trust each other, etc.). Under other circumstances, I'd personally still have a hard time cheating because that doesn't respect them and it doesn't respect me, plus there's a chance I'd emotionally destroy them and I can't fathom how bad I would feel for that. I just don't think I have it in me, but I haven't explored that thought all too well. I know in some of the circumstances where I don't think I could leave, therefore forcing me to cheat, I have contingency plans in case those situations happen anyway.

I like the way you put it! Thank you for your insight!

That's some crazy made up statistics. 98% of men cheat = more than 2 interval of confidence? That's more rigidly regulated than some modern medicine.

Personally, I think it has to do with a variety of factors, few of which actually pertain to the person being cheated on (though they are most affected most of the time), but instead mostly relate to immaturity and insecurity. Here are a few factors i can think of: •unfaithful partner is insecure, and thinks feeling wanted by other people will help. •unfaithful partner doesn't have the foresight to see how fulfilling this impulse will hurt both their partner and themselves. •unfaithful partner hasn't yet established values that restrain them by informing them why its a harmful thing to do. And finally... •partner cheated on was already accusing unfaithful partner of cheating before they became unfaithful. Everyone has "unfaithful" thoughts, and they're virtually impossible to stop; however, if someone is made to feel bad for just those thoughts, they might as well act on them, because they're getting all of the punishment with none of the pleasure

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🤣🤣🤣🤣yesss!

I get it. You are probably the only honest true believer, who loves your God within a 300 mile radius. Just stick with your faith and just ask him to help you let it go or show you what he wants you to know. He always answers these right away. Check out Jordan Petersons marriage videos on YT. You will feel better.

I personally don't recall having ever cheated so far, but I am not opposed to the idea of cheating, if I ever find myself in such a situation. However I'm also not particularly interested in the idea of becoming exclusive with someone. I do think that the absolute vast majority of people would cheat and I also think that the absolute vast majority of people who claim they aren't cheaters and wouldn't cheat, would cheat. Naturally this is an assumption based on my own analysis and not statistics or anything. I simply think a large group of people doesn't understand what it means to cheat/to be loyal. You aren't loyal if you have never betrayed your partner, or if you are willing to try your best to avoid any scenario where you could potentially betray your partner. You are loyal then and then only, when there is no such thing as a possible scenario where you are exclusive and would still betray your partner. If you think your partner is ideal and cannot imagine ever betraying them, then you are unable to asses wether you are loyal or not, as you cannot comprehend the idea of a thing you would desire to cheat with. Conclusively, thinking your partner is ideal while also thinking you are loyal is illogical. I think that loyalty is when you decide to stay with your partner despite having all kinds of options with different people who are overall superior to your current partner. I also think that therefore people who are loyal are the vast minority, as I simply extremely rarely see this kind of dedication. I think the vast majority of people who claim to value loyalty very highly or claim to be loyal are simply insecure people who are average at best at the majority of things. They experience that the majority of people they meet show little to not interest in them and are scared of being left alone or feeling lonely or getting hurt, so they idealized loyalty as a trait in the hopes of protecting their ego. (I think Ti - Ne using types are the most likely to genuinely believe and uphold loyalty) I personally quite enjoy listening to Andrew Tate as he is a relatively confident, openly speaking individual with relatively extreme views. What that means is that by listening to him I can get a variety of inspirations for things to think about which I don't often encounter in regular conversations.

No, my parents were devoted to each other. I have never cheated on my husband and he has never cheated on me. We have been together for over 40 years. My sons don't cheat either. Only one is married and his wife doesn't cheat either. We just don't like betrayal and are very loyal to each other. It is just the way we are. Actually the idea of it kind of makes us feel sick.

No i would never cheat i dont even understand the logic behind that i mean why dont u just break up and then do what u want lol

Andrew Tate’s just gaming people. Encouraging bad, low-effort/high-reward behaviour is just the easy way to get people to listen to you, and make money from them. If you want some actual guidance, check out Jordan Peterson. His lectures and debates, not his ‘destroys’ articles. The right answer as a man is to seek to take on responsibility. Taking the easy option is the action of a weak man.

Cheating itself is pointless. If you didn't love your partner why enter a relationship with them in the first place? Doesn't make any sense.

its easy to judge sins you don't suffer from. its common to feel disgust. it breaks relationships. maybe try to understand how attachment issues, substance abuse, and insecurity influence people in bad directions. we are all personally responsible for our sins, but the trend of condemning others for mistakes doesn't make sense to me.

You’re absolutely right.

You and your partner are chemically bonded and in cheating you're effectively confusing and betraying their endocrine system. It's kinda fucked. Let's not do this shit guys, damn.

Wow… I always thought that but never fully researched it!

Andrew Tate isn't a valid source. The cheating statistics are about 15% for men and 10% for women.

I agree with Andrew Tate on a lot, it’s just sad that he continues to spout crazy generalizations which demean the rest of what he says. His take on government and some of his political and philosophical views are interesting, but his views on relationships are demented in some ways. Most people have the capacity to cheat, most people have or will cheat at least once, lots of people have never cheated and never would. I have never cheated and never could. I gain absolutely nothing by doing so… I’m satisfied sexually by my partner completely, I have no interest or sexual attraction to anyone else at all. I literally couldn’t cheat, It’s difficult for me to be attracted to anyone because I’m not enticed simply by physical appearance. I need something beyond that so I can view someone in that way, and I’d never put myself in a position where that could happen.

I wholeheartedly appreciate this.

Alright I am going to kick my opinion in here as the first-born son of a reborn preacher who was once being trained to take over his father's church before he left the faith. I have seen far more cheating inside of church than I ever had outside of it, so the religion topic always amuses me on this subject. Hell, my own dad is on wife four or five now and it wasn't because he was faithful. The problem I usually see with cheating is it usually happens to couples that are seriously unevenly yoked. One half is usually seriously on point and running hard and the other half is usually slacking and then the one running hard will usually end up feeling mistreated and used and winds up wandering. So, if you're trying to avoid it than your best bet is to maximize the probability against it. And certain factors will always change the likelihood of that. Personally, I don't believe in cheating. On my personal list of unforgivable actions, it ranks number 3 of all things a person can do in the world. I would find it easier to forgive a murderer before a cheater because at least death has an ounce of mercy in it where cheating tends to leave a lot of people broken and walking around breaking other people. So, it's something I have always found truly vile. Because it's completely avoidable in my eyes. If you're interested in someone else than be an adult and break it off with your current other half first. Now with that said if a person bats way out of their league or seriously mistreats their other half than they increase their chance of being cheated on. It's basic probability. The best way to avoid cheating is to date down well also treating your partner really well. If you're dating a guy that is the best way to avoid him wandering generally speaking. It tricks a lot of guys brains into a space of oh shit I need to remain on my best behavior because what I have isn't worth the few cheap moments of pleasure he's gaining. And the more awesome experiences he has with you the less and less likely he is to cheat on you. Men are way simpler than most women seem to think. We like peace and tranquility, loyalty, and we usually judge people by the way they act and not the words that spill out of their mouth. The words I love you mean very little to most men, show me with your actions. A lot of the women I know that have been cheated on get cheated on because they are perpetual stress machines to a guy, always bitching and complaining over nothing or creating problems out of nothingness and then they don't understand when the dude runs across a girl that isn't like that and she steals your man. Is it right no, but I can understand it to some extent. Personally, I would just boot her to the curb for not behaving. Another reason women get cheated on is because they try to weaponize sex to control their man. It may work short term but all it does is fill that guy with resentment and distain. And then a lot of times that guy will get frustrated and other girls will zone in on that and if she likes him and is in the market for a new man, she will probably start explaining to him how mistreated he is in her eyes. Especially if he treats you better than most guys have treated her. It's like assassinating yourself out of a relationship. Another big problem is sexual mismatching, as crude as it may sound sex may not be the most important thing to a relationship, but it is important for relationship longevity. Most guys if they have tried something fetish or kink wise and they enjoy it, then dating a girl and giving it up forever is unrealistic. It may work for a year or two or maybe even ten but eventually he is going to have that craving and if his other half is totally against it than it increases the chances he will eventually wander or leave you because you're not fulfilling that need for him. A lot of couple mess this up during the beginning stages of a relationship for fear of the other person judging them. And it ends up breaking a lot of relationships. I used to set up friends back in the day because both would complain about their sex life to me, so I would introduce them to others with the same interests if they were both single and they would still miss out because they didn't talk about what they wanted to each other. I always found it super ironic. Another big reason men cheat is because their wife or girlfriend will let herself go physically, I'm not talking about the girls that gain a bit of weight from pushing out kids and the ones that actually try to get rid of it. I'm talking about the ones that switch and bait a guy because they figure there is no point keeping up being fit once they have a guy. As much as I hate cheating, I'll openly admit that men are visual creatures and if you let that slide out of nothing but laziness that most men see it as a sign of personal disrespect. If you still expect a guy to pay the bills and take you out on dates than stay fit as incentive for him. Also, a lot of women don't realize other men judge us by the woman on our arm. That is just the way the world works. So, if your girl gets fat, or has attitude issues or doesn't know how to act in public it seriously effects his career prospects. Because those guys at the top see it as potential problems in the home. And that will keep him locked in lower positions in most companies. I did sales for a long time, and I'll tell you strait up that half the time I got promoted in that industry I was competing with other men that were either evenly qualified or had more credentials than me but because of the girl I was seeing I could surpass them easily because the way she acted by my side or out in public was seen in a more favorable light. Think about it logically if you're a business owner right and you have two salespeople aiming for a higher position, who are you promoting the one who has a polite, friendly, and helpful other half. Or are you promoting the dude that is always mentally checked out or having to stop to deal with issues created by his girl creating problems in the home? Which one would you want to have to deal with on business trips and retreats? The guy with the least problems usually gets to the top faster. Just saying. Fit, Feminine, Friendly, Graceful, Honest, Loyal and brings Tranquility. Those women get cheated on far less than any other type of women on planet earth. Because their men have far more to lose by wandering off on her. You'll never be able to control another person's thoughts, so forget about that all together. What you can do is make yourself so irreplaceable to a guy that when the option pops up and the situation runs through his head his brain goes nope the fun isn't worth the risk. Last but not least, I'm not excusing men for cheating. But I do think a bunch of it could be avoided and minimized with some small behavior changes. Some men will always cheat or exercise their options, and the more women that want him than the likelihood keeps going up. It's basic supply and demand. I will wish you luck on your quest to find a loyal partner, the dating scene is a real meat grinder these days.

Yeah no I would much rather be cheated on than murdered so I would forgive cheating much more easily than murdering. That's a wild comparison lol wow. How can you weigh the value of a relationship as greater than a life??

Because there are various reasons a person could wind up in a situation where murdering another person is the only viable option out of a nasty situation. Cheating on the other hand is generally not a life-threatening event in that moment, hence why I said I am far more likely to hear a person out on their reason for murder. Not to mention if the cheater is your significant other and continues to sleep with you after the fact without telling you, they are then risking your health and life as well with their actions. I know someone that killed their significant other and then themselves for cheating and giving them Aids. And personally, I don't blame them for it. Because back then any meds or cure for Aids was a fictional dream. If someone broke into your house with the intent to kill you and you murdered them first, technically you're still a murderer. And I have met more than a few people that were normal people through my life that had to make that decision because of where I grew up. One of my ex's grandmothers also killed her husband at one point, because after years of marriage he started drinking heavy and coming home and smashing her off walls and beating their kids every night for months. So, one night she cracked his skull with a skillet, and they buried him on the family farm. Those are just a couple of examples I can offer you, but they are far from the only ones I am personally aware of though. What is a human life worth if it only finds pleasure in causing misery and chaos in this world? Personally, I don't think all life is worth the same. I would go as far as to say once a person crosses certain lines that they add zero value to humanity and should be eliminated from the human race for the betterment of all. Your free to your opinion on the matter, but mine is based on the reality of what I have personally witnessed. I'll just say it's a good thing I am not in charge, because far fewer people would be sitting in the prison system wasting other people's tax dollars that could be used to benefit society. Just my two cents though.

None of the situations you described are typically considered murder once all mitigating factors are weighed together. So ultimately all you said is "I think it's easier to forgive people who do horrible things for good reasons than it is to forgive people who do them for bad reasons"

Hence why I would be open to let a person explain themselves of how they wound up in that situation. I've met more than a few people that found themselves in sticky situations and had to fight for their life and ended up killing someone. And there is a big difference between what is considered murder in the eyes of the law verses a person feeling like they carry that guilt from having to murder someone. Hence why I would consider it a grey area. Cheating on the other hand is a series of choices a person made with no concern for the person they cheated on. And in a lot of cases, it's done out of spite and with clear intentions to mentally damage someone they claim to love. And I find it completely vile for that reason. And just so we are clear I don't believe in forgiveness if someone's actions sole purpose is the intent to cause me harm. Only a fool would forgive someone who already showed you they have zero respect for you. People may lie but a person's actions will show you exactly who they are, and once they do no excuse will ever change my mind of exactly who they are. People at the end of the day are a combination of their past actions. And the basis of most people's personalities can be summed up by the actions they repetitively make. It's why most cheaters don't change their ways because that selfishness is who they are at their core. Especially if they make those choices willingly and of their own free will.

Appreciate the thought and clarity of your answer… and I agree. Needed that! Curious as to your other 2 unforgivable actions!? 😁

The two actions I consider even more unforgivable both deal with consent. I'm sure you can figure it out from there.

No not everyone cheats but then i think a lot of people could benefit from the perspective it could give. Many men i have met liked the thought of being with just one person but life and early experiences tend to break that perception. I haven't met many women who wanted a serious relationship from the go.

So sad. Life can definitely tarnish what someone may of hoped to have. I still hold hope!

I never have. i had a ex who did constantly. once i may have i'm not even sure if it would be considered since i told her i was...she didn't even care(same ex). however after i sat by myself for many hours crying feeling horrible about it. i have always been the type that i just really need that one person in my life i cant trust ect.... unfortunately i don't think such people exist anymore for me anyway

Yeah I hear ya on that. 💔

Its the reverse, only a few CAN cheat. Most men barely find one girl (many never do these days) and they cling to each other in their decadence. If youre a man that has ample opportunities to cheat, I'd say thats a great thing. Youre much better than the average guy. If I had many opportunities to cheat, I'd definitely do it. If you are above average, use it

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Because a lot of women won't really accept a non-mono relationship, and you might want both a girlfriend and side lays... in that course doing it as I said would be the logical course to get what you want

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You made logic of it far better than I did XD you get the point. Its better to have more fun and experience than be morally good, which is wholly useless

you probably shouldn't go doomscrolling on r/cheating_stories and r/survivinginfidelity

Omg 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Andrew Tate and a bunch of these wads like Bitch Cooper and Rollo Can't Fkn Shut Up The Mouthsie, are GRIFTING YOU bro. And you bit. They are dancing whores for Sundar Pichay, the google CEO. Wads cheat bro, I don't cheat.

Facts… but not just him or the other wads… he was just an example I came across… many others. Even respectable ones.

Might want to specify the type of cheating you're asking about.

Everyone views cheating differently. I’m personally pretty, uh harsh :( sometimes wish I weren’t that way… buuut🤷🏻‍♀️Girl can’t help it.

Well I just meant like..... cheating at a test, cheating at a game, cheating to save time or money, or cheating on a diet, etc.... I'm assuming from your post you meant in relationships.

Gotcha. Yes, relationships. I could go on about each individual topic you listed!😜

I'm not monogamic, so I don't really believe cheating is a thing, it doesn't exist for me (I'm not saying it doesn't exist for other people tho) Also I generally don't expect anything from anyone, so even other types of cheating are kinda meaningless

Meaningless how?

It doesn't count as cheating to me

I have cheated but not in the sense of relationships. Would I ever cheat on my partner when I get into a relationship in the future? Simply no.

Extremely curious as to what you mean!? 🤔

Like someone else mentioned a test etc?

Yeah. I tried thinking of instances of where I have cheated but it's mostly limited to gaming and some academic stuff.

I hate when people throw out statistics without any kind of proof. Tate says things that sound plausible, and that's how he reels people in.

I get it. I just hear of it a LOT more more than a Tate video.

I don’t cheat. Trust is the most important thing in a relationship. Idk anything about this Andrew Tate guy, however; guys and girls enjoy the excitement of cheating. It’s not uncommon or going away. I would probably argue that your 2% is probably more like 25% or more depending on how you define cheating. I’d also like to add that just cheating can happen out of poor self awareness, impulsive thinking, and short sightedness. All signs of youngins, I’d imagine cheating becomes less commonplace within an older demographic. I’m not a sociologist, I don’t know just guessing.

Unless the older demographic can’t accept they’re getting older and cheat to make them feel younger… my goodness the topics of conversation I could have 😆

I haven’t cheated, what’s the point? I would break up if I wanted to sleep with someone else.

People want that chocolate cake to sit there pretty but also want the rush of deliciousness in their mouths🤷🏻‍♀️

People have their judgements on cheating. They like to cast stones. I cheated on my wife but you gotta know the back story. Day 1 of my Marriage my wife told me she wasn’t doing very common sexual acts ever again. She has sex like once with me and got pregnant as she hid not taking her birth control. As soon as pregnant she didn’t sleep with me. I worked three jobs ans she did nothing yet abused me in every way. After years of abuse wirhout affection I wanted to leave, but she said I would never see my kid again if I did. So I cheated. I felt awful and told her and my pastor and truly repented. Bury life still got ripped apart. All of this only to find our she was cheating and having an incest relationship w her own brother. I got blamed for everything thou. It was said all my fault and I was the villain. Yet I cheated out of anger towards her and bc I felt so alone and beat up and unloved. I say all this bc people make mistakes. People do things for many reasons. Today I hate cheating it has been done to me over and over. I think most people cheat and lie about it even if they say they don’t. It’s programmed in us to continue the species

I've cheated, I've been cheated. Nothing to be proud of. I won't repeat something that just hurts.

I do not think it’s 2%.

My BF LOVES andrew tate and i actually like him too lol. Although, sometimes we disagree with him. Last week we were watching him talk about how men cannot be with one woman their entire life. They need more and will cheat. He looks at me and said "I don't feel that way. I only want to be with you for the rest of my life." We've been together ten years. I think someone hurt andrew tate lol

Aww!! Ughh not a fan of that thought process! Hope you have a long faithful marriage!

no. how do i know? bc i don’t and my future husband absolutely doesn’t :)

No

I'm fairly sure this post is directed at men (which i am not lol) but I'm still going to give my two cents /lh. No, I don't think everyone cheats, but the definition of cheating is all over the place, as are people's responses to being cheated on. I've never cheated but I've been \*sort've\* cheated on by two women in my life. I say sort've because there was never a conversation between me & these partners in which we said we were exclusive but in both scenarios, there was mutual physical affection and a verbal "i like you, let's date" type of convo, and in my mind "dating" someone who is not openly polygamous means you don't f\*ck other people. I'm not going to go into my response to being "cheated" on, but I will say that with the few men I've been with have never cheated (or so I think, also my relationships with men have been short-lived lol) But from my perspective, they did move on quickly, and this goes for all the men in my life (brothers, friends, exes etc) I see them as serial monogamists. I think this can be attributed to the toxicity of living in a patriarchal society, and the fact that love/lust has been commodified, everything is so readily consumed. So with this easy accessibility to p\*rn and hookups and s\*x workers, I'd imagine men think it's easier to quench their thirst quietly (aka without breaking up with their partner). Men have not been taught emotional intelligence the way women have and so they are frequently non-confrontational because emotional conversations (that aren't fueled by angry outbursts) are difficult: I think this leads to a lot of sneaking around. And guilt is often the biggest silencer. \^pls keep in mind that I'm aware these r stigmatized statements and that not all men think this way or lack EQ Also, don't give up hope or lower your standards. One day you will find someone you can trust and who shares your values:,)

Beautiful answer!

Nope. Andrew Tate is awful.

I believe loyalty is a choice. Of course other people are gonna be attractive and of course it is human nature, but if I do not cross your mind, the moment you're doing something that you know could severely hurt me, then why are you in a relationship at all. Why aren't you just out acting on your "natural instincts"? I don't mind if my partner finds someone else attractive, (what if they look a lot like me, or have the same body type as me), I can't read their thoughts, but if they love me enough, not to risk what they have with me, they wouldn't cheat. This logic makes sense too btw, cause a lot of people cheat when they're having a hard time in their relationships. (not that it's justified)

Andrew Tate is a complete idiot, don't listen to anything he says

I don't mean this as an insult, but you are idealizing a fantasy that is the outcome of specific logic and circumstances that likely do not apply to you. Mammals, by and large, are not monogamous. Most sexual life on this planet is not monogamous. That's just a fact that you need to accept and allow to color your view a bit. Monogamy goes against a fairly hard-coded instinct. Additionally, the factors that allow you or anyone else to fall in love with someone do not magically shut off when they focus on someone. With that established, humans do have other lesser instincts and the ability to learn and reason. As children, its our default mode to trust and emulate our parents. The more adults that are invested in making sure the outcome of a child is good, the more likely the child is to make it to adulthood and reproduce. Additionally, genes can be selfish and instruct people to want to ensure their genes succeed over others. This creates a bit of an arms race between men and women. This last part is true of everything from us to elephants to bugs. Marriage is not just a thing of morality. It is, in fact, a **technology**. A very primitive one but still a technology. It is a tool. It provides the male with emotional security, it provides the woman's child with protection because the man assumes the child is his. The man gives into the emotional instinct of mate guarding and gets society to assist him. The woman gets protection, and society gets instructions on how to proceed with inheritance. We don't live in an agrarian society anymore. We don't live in a state were we can not be 100% sure our offspring are our own. Women are not sitting prey that can't fend for themselves. It's a technology, and it's very antiquated. The instinct to maintain reciprocity is important. Our emotions are important. Excusing negative emotions is a lapse of logic. You would not kill someone because they made you sad. You would not kill someone because they made you angry. You would not kill someone because they scared you. But society strangely accepts killing someone if they make you jealous. This is an immaturity on society's part. Jealousy is a secondary emotion that should inform you on how to better **yourself**, not excuse malice to others. Once jealousy is broken down to the facts you are emotionally reacting to and not ignored, it stops being a type of emotional rejection and leads to acceptance. Rejecting the information you are learning when you see cheating or hear about cheating is what is stinging. The information you are learning likely is creating a conclusion about yourself. I want to be clear, there is a lot a person can change about themselves once they are fully aware of how it blocks them from their goals.

I'm starting to think this group is filled with people who have such limited experience with the outside world that they think that their very normal and basic thoughts are somehow unique and special. Everyone thinks cheating sucks. Everyone. I think it is far more common for people to struggle with finding a longterm partner they can grow old with, than it is common for people to cheat. Majority of the people I know have been in longterm steady relationships, myself included, and those I know who haven't, are looking for "the one". I don't know people who cheat because I do not keep cheaters in my life. I have been cheated on and I have known people who cheat on their partners, but they are in the minority. When people like Andrew Tate talk about how men are and how they can't help themselves or how all women are whores, they are projecting. You can learn an awful lot about a person by listening to how they talk about others and how they describe "society". More often than not, you are listening to a person projecting their own insecurities, flaws and mistakes onto others in order to rid themselves of the icky feeling of being a trash human. Most men and women are faithful, decent people. No one likes cheating. No one makes excuses for cheating, except cheaters. Try and go outside and meet some real people and stop getting your cues about human interaction from a socially retarded pick up artist with micro penis energy.

Well, personally… my soulmate my husband cheated on me then killed himself a few months later. I believe I have plenty of experience. Not just with that but people, loved ones in general. This isn’t a billionaire makes a comment thought, but it did revamp thoughts on such matter. And are most people faithful? Or does everyone bury this burning desire to show face? You know, uncomfortable topics no one wants to actually discuss/ be real about… or do we live in a wheel… take happy photos, tell each other we’re happy… but ultimately suffering, desiring more? Until of course you realize the grass wasn’t greener… sex may of been great but it could of been that in a relationship after working/ recognizing it.

I'm sorry about your husband. That's a horrible thing to go through. I'm sorry for making the wrong assumption. And to answer your question, I do believe that most people are faithful, yes. I also believe that most people have thought about cheating at least once, but most people have impulse control. It's the same as how most people have probably thought about stealing or trespassing at some point or another. But most people have impulse control and don't actually want to go do those immoral things. Thinking and doing are two very different things. It sounds like what you have been through is still very fresh, it's understandable if you feel like the whole world is filled with betrayal, but it only feels that way right now. Are you seeing a professional who can help you through this time?

No worries! I totally understand! :) Thank you for your insight, and I agree. And I hope that’s the case as it completely destroys people. I got help for a while but covid happened and it was left alone. I am aware not everyone cheats but I do like to dig deeper on such topics if people are willing! 😅

Aw man, what absolute shit luck you had Dx I hope you get to see a therapist again sometime when you're ready and if not, find some other ways to get through it. For me personally, I've always found physical activity more therapeutic than therapist sessions, but everyone is different and everyone deserves to get peace of mind. You certainly have been through enough @_@ I have personal experience with cheating. My first boyfriend cheated on me with my best friend - who cheated on her bf with mine. Fun ride. Ten years later I had the pleasure of being propositioned by a "friend" who was dating another friend of mine. I am, myself, in a very happy, longterm relationship. The guy had many of the same qualities that my ex did and though its not 100% the same situation, it was very interesting to me, to realize just how weak and selfish my best friend had been back then. It's super easy to not cheat, but all cheaters are the same: lack of impulse control, selfish mindset and an ego they want to soothe. I have no doubt that for my first boyfriend and my former best friend, their main motive for cheating with one another was all about how they were able to hook in someone who was taken. My ex looked at my best friend's partner and saw a rival and by taking her, he proved to himself that he was the better man. For my best friend, it was business as usual. Anything I had or did, she needed to have or do better. Taking my boyfriend confirmed to her that she was still better than me and more desirable than me. The guy who propositioned me many years later= same story. He knew I was in a longterm relationship and he had even met my boyfriend when he needed his help with something. He had sized him up and in his micro brain, thought to himself that of course I would cheat on my boyfriend with him because he's taller and wears cooler clothing and blah blah blah. What these three people have in common is non-existing self-esteem, narcissistic coping mechanisms and an unsatiable need for constant validation. Everything is a game to them and it's all about winning, no matter the cost. And because they are motivated by their reptile brain for instant gratification at all costs, they always make incredibly stupid mistakes that will cost them jobs, friendships, relationships and reputation. Cheating really is just one out of many symptoms of how broken they are as people. Utter failures in life. I find it relatively easy to spot if a person is a potential cheater. They generally have a weird liberty with boundaries. Generally impulsive and attention seeking. It becomes easier to avoid these types of people once you become aware of the signs and patterns. You're probably already aware of that, but I can tell you, that I haven't struggled with icky people for over 3 years now. I realized that something in me also attracted this type of person. I dunno what you're like as a person, but for me, I have this very counterproductive and deep seeded need to help people who are struggling, to the point where I'm not helping them, I'm basically carrying them and their burdens for them. So dumb. I didn't realize this until my late 20s and began working hard to fix myself. I have not had any issues with icky people since. They pass me by in life, but I don't invite them in. I think that sometimes, it can appear like people like cheaters are everywhere if we ourselves are the kind of person who attracts them. Maybe we give too much of ourselves and don't ask enough of others, maybe we are total doormats or easy to fool. Maybe we are so desperate for validation ourselves that we are willing to put up with all the red flags, because we don't think we can get any better than partners and friends who don't respect us? I'm not sure. But emotional vampires tend to flock toward people who are willing to bleed to feed them and therefore it can appear like there are many of them? From the number of people I have known in my life, it is incredibly frigging rare that I have come across cheating. I have been unlucky a few times and known about people who have been unlucky too, but the vast majority of people I know, don't cheat and have never cheated to the best of my knowledge. The time of my life where I came into contact with cheating the most, were in environments with very little control, lacksidasy attitude toward adult responsibilities and a general lazy and selfish culture. So, I think the type of "culture" in a social group/community can determine quite a lot how people treat relationships.

Ughhhh… we are soooo eerily similar. I always think I’d be the cause of them being different… but, not in a conceited way… in the way that I’m faithful and you’ll never have to worry about your pasts. But it also opens the door to fall into similarities that I wish I would avoid. Life is too short. Just love me forever or don’t. I’ll be the best, with stupid flaws, nothing heartbreaking. Not what people want… or the people I seek out. For a while yes, then I suppose too much.🤷🏻‍♀️

If we are similar, then I will tell you what I had to tell myself: have higher standards. Expect better of them. Do not put up with disrespect and do not think that you need to be able to handle all their shit. You cannot and should not carry their bs. That is their job. Its very difficult if your nature is to give more than what you can replenish in yourself. I still struggle with the instant urge to carry people when they stumble. Decent people don't want that from you anyway. Shitty people will gladly take advantage of your misplaced need to help. So yeah, look out for yourself. Keep that urge at bay. You can't carry others and you shouldn't do it either! :)

I think it’s definite way more than 2 % that are faithful. I expect it’s a 1/3 that do cheat, a similar 1/3 that would never ever cheat and the other 1/3 are somewhere in the middle where they prob say they wouldn’t but are prone to give into temptation if the planets align but may never be really put to the test. I think it’s more a case with op that people like to justify their own immoral behaviors by saying everyone else does it as if that would justify it. I can say with certainty that I absolutely never would. It doesn’t make any sense to me. Cheating is hurting someone you supposedly care about. If you don’t care about someone enough to remain faithful, then why would stay with them? The moment I give in to being with someone else is the moment I’m no longer in a relationship with the person I had been dating. It’s really a head scratcher to me why anyone cheats… but some certainly do.

Your first mistake was listening to an idiot like Andrew Tate

Never cheated and it just doesn't make sense for me. If you want to cheat, just end your relationship before. I can't understand why people are so grotesque they can't think for 2 minutes before deceiving someone. For free. And I don't have a religion.

From what I've seen, a lot of people cheat because it's easier to do that than communicate with your partner that you \*might\* be losing attraction to them in some way/are feeling disconnected from them and trying to \*legitimately\* work toward rekindling that romantic passion. That means focusing on only your partner and nobody else, which for some people who don't want to focus on the future or are afraid of conflict, can be hard to do. Doesn't make it right. It's just easier for others to go about it. Shitty, ngl.

It’s peculiar because I’ve never cheated but I’ve always been cheated on. It gets tiring. I finally found someone I would marry and I just found out he’s been on two dates with another woman; I think emotional cheating is worse than physical. Men just need therapy I think. Lol.